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I don't work physically and walk for about 2 hours a day, according to online calculators I would need to eat about 2400-2600 calories to not be overweight, but that's literally starvation, a decent dinner with dessert and sweet drink is already like 2000 kcal, and where's the place for breakfast, lunch, supper, some treats? pizza at my favorite place has a bit thicker crust and they have dope fat garlic sauce and it's 4000+ kcal to eat, so just 1 meal and it's way above the limit, this is all fucked up, everything sweet and fat tastes fantastic yet you can't eat it, or eat cat sized portions
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You need to eat like a woman or do 250 pushups every day, no way around it desu
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>>542225587
>dessert and sweet drink i

Dump this. It's no good for you.
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>>542225587
I tried. But my desire to insert my penis inside vaginas was way stronger than my desire to eat goyslop and not work out.
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>>542225587
>everything sweet and fat tastes fantastic
I'm that way about vegetables, fish, and rice. Sweet and fat are okay, but I feel sick after eating too much of it.
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>>542225587
Get on Retatrutide you fat fuck
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>>542225587
I'm 51, male. I'm 5"8" and weigh 151lbs. I work out 5 days a week, and eat healthy 5 days a week.

It's very easy.
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I am in the process of loading weight.

Yes, I am fucking starving, eating once a day only. And I walk a lot at workz now else it was slow but soon starting this month it will be up to 20+K steps.

It's thst, or extreme deteriorating back pain.

You have to starve.
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>>542225587
Treadmill now porker
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>>542225587
Try eating 2lbs of beef a day and get back to me about starvation dieting. Stop counting calories btw, you do not combust substrate and utilize heat energy. You are not a bomb calorimeter. Eat beef until full, about 80/20 protein to fat, salt to taste. You will lose weight and be full.
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physical job
not only am i not obese im starting to get stronger
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Ya, lots of meat, gotta eat protein.

I lost 20KG since late June.
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>>542225587
> 2400-2600 calories to not be overweight, but that's literally starvation
Drop the spoon, lard ass.
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>>542226146
yeah, i agree
a pound of ground beef is nearly 1500 calories lol
its sort of shocking when you start eating properly how much you can actually eat
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>>542225587
Food isn’t what makes people fat. It’s an undeveloped endocrine system, caused by known endocrine disruptors in the childhood vaccines we give children in the west. Here’s a meta study on Thimerosol, a metal adjuvant found in the hepB vaccine, which was given to children on a national level in the US, starting in the early 1980s…the exact time the obesity epidemic began. The correlation between Thimerosol and obesity is similar to modern cigarettes and lung cancer.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4982359/
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>>542225587
I used to be fat, 115kg. You really don't need that much food. And you'll learn to love the empty feeling over the full and bloated. Now i'm 85kg. Just reduce food intake, fast some days a month and do resistance training to not become skinnyfat. Throw all the calculators in the bin because you'll most likely consume hidden calories anyway.
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>>542225587
My BMI is at 30. Any kind of physical activity is exhausting for me. Standing upright and walking more than a few steps hurts. I’m gonna die soon but I’m not bothered. I used to be a hot twink but even then I wasn’t getting any action so fuck it.
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>>542225587
Eat vegetables you fat fuck. Broccoli fills up your stomach and has little calories.

Also hold out for 3 weeks your body will adjust to lowe calories.
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>>542226345
>the west
Only the US has a 40 percent obesity rate no other western nation is even close to that. Also the most obese nation are all in the South Pacific. Obesity is caused by goyslop and poverty
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>>542225587
Honorary Ameribro
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>>542225587
I eat 400g of potatoes and 300gr of chicken thighs without the skin. That’s pretty filling and only had about 700 calories for lunch
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>>542227683
That doesn’t taste good.
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>>542227711
Potatoes taste awesome. Boil them, cut them into thick chips and throw them into an airfryer with some spices. Fuck rice, noodles and other carb shit. I could only potatoes all day
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>>542225587
Contrary to what /fit/bro grifters would like you to believe, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being substantially fat.
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>>542227813
Nothing except backpain, joint pain and even but muscle pain! lol

It's pain pain and more pain.
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>>542225587
Its very easy fatanon. Been athlete my whole life. First swimming, then boxing, them gymbro and now rock climbing. At first you will fucking hate it, but your brain rewards pushing yourself to failure, so over time you will attribute hard workouts to feeling good, and then you get annoyed cause restitution takes too long before you can go agane. Also rock climber chicks are fit girls who are easy game
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>>542225827
This. Replace sugar soda with diet soda or better yet water and you'll lose 10 lbs without changing anything else in your life.
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>>542227929
You should first get your bloodwork done. Its guaranteed you have some deficiencies if you experience all that without injuries.
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>>542227929
That sounds like a skill issue to me.
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>>542226345
All that exists as a way to squeeze money from people and create a basket case that requires even more medical services later in life after getting junked up on all those vaccines.
Doctors get kickbacks for every innocent child they poison with that yidslop.
>>542226412
We're all being poisoned and weakened. Unless you were born to parents who already knew what's up and they lived far away from all this shit and were self-sufficient and intelligent enough to shield you from it, you're fucked. Most of us are fucked. That's not even including the plastic and other toxic bullshit that leeches into our food.
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>>542225587
I study and I eat a lot, I never gain weight by using my brain, brain consumes calories, just dot be dumb and talk to yourself constantly through internal monologue
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>>542228037
>Here's the results of your bloodwork, anon:
>Due to carrying an extra 60 lbs on your frame, you are subjecting yourself to the same stresses and rigors of a recruit at boot camp doing daily ruck marches.
>We did not bother analyzing your blood.
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>>542225587
how?
>ordered an XL parmo with 2 tubs of garlic sauce and it comes with fries
>delivery driver struggling to hold the box in one hand
>he grabs the box and notices the weight of it
>glancing at me confused and astounded as though there is something else unknown in the box
>I grab it with both hands
>5kg at least
>he is standing there with a perturbed expression and I can tell he wants to know wtf is inside the box
>can see him questioning reality in his head
>thank you god bless you, I say
>I spread the garlic sauce all over the top of the parmo
>with a knife and fork I cut off my favourite pieces
>5 pieces total
>enough to pick up with a fork
>eat around 15 of the fries
>absolutely stuffed
>leave the rest
>the box is still noticeably heavy
>I maybe ate <10% of what was in the box
>it was fucking delicious
such is my power
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>>542225587
Yeah...dude, this is why you're fat. 2400-2600 calories is NOT starvation. You're an idiot. All that sugar and fat is what's doing it. I literally sit on my ass 95% of the day, and workout in a HIIT session for 15 minutes. I eat 2500 and lose weight (currently cutting). I can normally eat 3000 a day and not gain weight. Just put on some muscle to increase your metabolic rate and stop thinking 2000 calories is the appropriate amount to eat in one sitting you fat fuck.
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Pretty simple, stop eating slop
I just had a huge plate of chicken, potatoes and veg, was only like 700 calories
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>>542226558
Only the US has been doing it for 45 fucking years. Almost every other developed country regulates the rate and quantity of vaccines that kids get. Add to that the dysgenic multiculturalism and cross breeding in the US and you get genomes that are much more susceptible to endocrine disruption. Mexico is a prime case in point. They are now fatter per capita than the US. Guess which childhood vaccine they rolled out nationally starting in 1999? Two decades after the US, which almost perfectly tracks with their obesity rates. You’re wrong, anon. Goyslop is obviously bad for you, but vaccines are the cause of the obesity epidemic.
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>>542228218
You also develop muscle to carry that fat unless you sit on your ass all day. Joint pain is common with vitamin d and b12 deficiency. Eating only carbs and sugar will do that
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>>542225587
How do people manage to get fat? I don't get it. Especially people with jobs, like, you're doing manual labor moving heavy stuff around for 8 hours every day, how the fuck can you get fat?
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>>542225587

I was slim, toned and healthy till I hit 50, then I got sick with some random viral infection in my cerebellum and now my body is fucked. Getting to old age in good shape is a lottery.
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>>542225587
I realized about six months back that I was about 15 pounds overweight. I’ve never been overweight ever in my entire life and I was extremely ashamed of myself. Six months of watching my portions and exercising more and I am back to where I was. Only useless cattle NPCs get fat, the type of person that has no self control or awareness of themselves. A hylic drone, a soulless pleb. About 30% of /pol/ is like that, and 100% of the shills are like that.
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>>542225587
fatties are gross
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>>542228037
Ya, it's called boobs! lol

A plague upon earth, usless and just there to cause pain.
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Literally just stop eating. You don't even need Ozempic that's a meme. The first 48 hours of fasting find something to keep yourself busy and your mind off food. After 48 hours your body stops producing the hunger hormone and you don't even feel it any more.
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>>542227813
I knew lots of people my age that said things like that. Now I'm over 50 a lot of them seem to have died from heart disease and the few that are left use those mobility scooters to get around. They crack me up.
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>>542228364
It has absolutely nothing to do with the Maxsneed it's poverty and lack of food supply regulation. You are obviously trying to I obfuscate the issue or just schizo
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>>542225587
Man those Pajeets and Kikes are getting really lazy with their spam.
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>>542225587
You can't avoid being fat. A lot of the problem is with the food itself. And chemtrails
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>>542225587
I eat OMAD and I'm fat. I think it's just genetics.
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>>542226065
How long do you work out?
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I went from 70 to 66kg at 6ft by not working out for 4 months and fasting and doing the keto and low sugar stuff. I felt awful starting running again after my injury resolved, carbs and coca cola are very necessary for performance. If you really have a lot of weight to lose I recommend getting into cycling. Buy a cheap road bike to start out with and do 1-3 hour rides multiple times a week. You will burn retarded amounts of calories. Just make sure u eat candy banan and other carbs before and during the ride or you will eat like a pig after rides. Don’t aim for drastic caloric deficits and the weight will fly off. If you hate effort just drink a lot of black coffee and smoke cigarettes to supress appetite and avoid all carbs like the plague (live off eggs olive oil and canned fish) this will be even faster but dont expect to have good heart and lungs with this method
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>>542225587
god just die please
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>>542225587
stop eating sugar and stop eating sweeteners. sugar fucks your energy levels up. sweeteners fuck you up mentally because your brain thinks it just received sugar and then goes haywire.
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>>542228380
>You also develop muscle to carry that fat
There was this crazy bitch years back who was into extreme self harm. No shallow cuts for her. She would cut down to the muscle, take pictures for her insta, and then stitch herself back up.
I mention this because despite being a landwhale, the 8 or so inches of fat on her cottage cheese thighs was supported by maybe an inch of muscle. I know this because she fucking posted pictures of the cross section she opened with a surgical scalpel.
Even if you do develop muscle, your joints have a hard limit of how much they can develop. The fittest man in the world would destroy his knees carrying that much weight around day after day after day.
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>>542225587

sup fats please bump the jeff thread

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/542222281
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>>542228530
>schizo
You have zero data or proof, because you are wrong, nigger
>muh sneed oils
Your “goyslop is the cause” argument doesn’t match with any timeline and is exactly what pharmakikes push on a daily basis. You are the dumbest, blackest gorilla nigger swinging in the jungle. You’re objectively wrong, so take your whore mother and your retarded, hebraic seething and never come back to this site.
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>>542228765
Sugar is jewish goyslop and always has been. Stop consuming it
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>>542228765
>stop eating sugar
The kikes put it in all our food since that other kike vilified fat and lard years ago.
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>>542228798
Sure, it doesn't help. But fatties eat garbage and their hormones are all fucked up.
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>>542229098
Correct. Their hormones are all fucked up because of all the excess adipose tissue.
You fix that by getting rid of the excess adipose tissue.
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>>542228765
if I didn't have sweeteners for my tea I would consume another 1000kcal+ a day as I drink a lot of tea
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>>542225587
>walk 2 hours a day
that's the difference idiot. no one walks anywhere here. when I'm in europe I log 15-20km a day just walking to new places.
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>>542229475
Just drink straight tea. You don't need to make it sweet unless you're drinking garbage. I just started watching my sugar intake (not even calories) and dropped like 30 pounds pretty quickly.
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Most fat people have a calorie problem but more importantly they have a fasting problem. The amount of body fat the body burns for even a high activity level is negligible if fed. Almost all of the energy comes from dietary fat and glucose. The only way the body shifts to preferring fat is if you’re fasted. That peaks at around 24-48 hours and tapers off while stress hormones cling to body fat but the body starts to prefer to burn fat at around 12 hours fasted. So besides a higher TDEE and/or lower caloric intake, most fit people are just not eating too late and too early. You should fast for an absolute minimum 12 hours every 24 hours. If you’re snacking at 10 pm and having a coffee with cream and sugar at 8 am, you’re simply not fasting enough.

Try this: try to end your last meal early and push your first later. Even if you change nothing else you will slowly lose fat. Same calories. Same macros. Same activity level. Same everything. Just fast for 12+ hours daily and you’ll lose fat.

Meal timing is so important and so under-emphasized.
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>>542225587
If you're autistic enough, you can get enough exercise by physically enacting elaborate mental fantasies for hours.
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>>542229721
No meal timing is the real problem. Americans are indeed not active enough, but their bigger problem is they snack at 10 pm and break their fast at 7 am. In any 24 hour period they’ve basically never depleted liver glycogen and have never shifted into burning more body fat than blood triglycerides or glucose. They’re literally constantly in a “recently fed” state. The most pernicious culprit is coffee. Coffee mimics carbohydrates in a lot of people.
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>>542225587
How were you able to type? I bet those fat fingersare bigger than your penis. Do something usefull you fatfuck
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Imagine posting something like this and not even being an amerimutt. Absolutely shameful.
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>>542225587
I bulk and cut between 165-180 lbs, slightly changing how skinnyfat I am each time
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>>542225587
>10-20g of dried meat for breakfast
>water and tea (no sugar or cream, fags) throughout the day
>small snack if needed, handful of raisins or piece of toast
>home cooked supper with balanced macros, eaten slowly, smaller portions
>limited desert, ie. a few bites of sorbet at most
>alcohol on weekends
I've dropped 15 lbs in the past six months. I prefer to eat my main meal late afternoon but the wife still wants a full meal late at night so I end up eating about 5 hours later than I like.
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>>542225587
I eat only every other day. Works like magic, I call it the do nothing diet.
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>>542228287
kek
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>>542225587
Have a good breakfast, moderate lunch, eat way less during dinner.
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>>542225587
it's quite simple and doesn't require calorie calculators of calorie counting at all.
> stop buying junk food entirely
> stop eating snacks, only breakfast, lunch, and dinner. and no second helpings or large portions.
I don't even eat 3 meals, only 2. I instead eat a brunch because that's when I first get hungry.
> only eat for sustenance
most people eat out of boredom or for taste cravings. you have to retrain your mind and body. this is the hardest part aside from skipping the junk food when shopping. a VERY important thing to ensure when you are "dieting" is to buy nutrient dense foods like meat /dairy. most people think dieting or eating healthy means eating shit with no calories, but that just destroys your energy levels and causes nutrient deficiencies, many of which like thiamine deficiency is very bad for your brain health. I mainly eat meat/dairy and bread. rarely anything else. vegetables only occasionally, I view them as fillers for dinner if anything.
> exercise. specifically in the morning after you wake up because that kickstarts your metabolism for the rest of the day.
most people retain weight because they are very inactive and sedintary at their job and/or at home. you aren't burning many calories when sitting at a desk. walking isn't as good of an exercise as people think it is for losing weight like jogging/running, unless you're so out of shape that it's moderately difficult for you. to burn fat, you want to keep your heart rate fairly high for extended times. riding a stationary bike at a high cadence but low resistance is the easiest. having high resistance to the pedals is not necessary, it just taxes muscles more. every morning for 15-30mins straight is a good start, a bike is also easier on the knees than jogging/running. sticking toa routine is everything. people didn't used to be fat because they ate the bare minimum for sustenance, now people eat out of boredom and cravings.
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>>542228686
>low carb
ngmi fatty
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>>542225587
I can't physically force myself to eat anything past 2000 calories. Just starting feeling full, bloated and dysfunctional. I dunno how fatties eat so much and function.
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>>542225587
Breakfast is 4 cigarettes and 400 ml of coffee.
Lunch is a hotdog, pastry or whatever else i can hold in my hand and another 200 ml of coffee.
Dinner is stuffing myself with caloric bombs until I'm having trouble breathing.
Fit like a mesolithic bear hunter.
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>>542225587
I eat one meal a day, no dessert or snacking.
I see no reason to eat more. Especially since it’s also more expensive.
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>>542225587
Its not possible nowadays unless you take pharma drugs
I do OMAD and have been doing for years, I go to the gym 5 days a week, since covid (yes, vaxxed sadly) I havent been able to lose more than 5 kilos
Im at 105, still not morbidly obese because im tall but I should be at a massive caloric deficit and should have lost the weight years ago
But somehow I dont
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>>542225587
When I eat too much I will get the runs and shit it all out.
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I eat like shit and barely move around and I don't really gain weight I'm probably full of worms
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>>542225587
human sized portions lardo
as someone who was fat
it takes real fucking effort to be fat
you basically have to eat CONSTANTLY like at the first tickle of hunger you are shoveling something down
i'm not fat because i don't eat 3+ peoples worth of food per day
if you really can't give up the overeating then it's time to hit the gym
eat less move more
you don't want to eat less then it's time to move more
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>>542230658
>dried meat for breakfast
Anon, I...
Listen, poach a fucking chicken on Sunday and shred the meat into a bowl kept in your fridge if you want conventient protein that doesn't taste like ass or pickles your insides.
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>>542231381
wait until you hit 35. you will start gaining, but only in your guy and your hips. it makes you look like you're on HRT. that's the downside to being naturally skinny with high metabolism. when it finally slows down, you store fat like a troon.
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>>542231202
sugar drinks usually
unless you are just taking the piss and still eating snacks and three meals
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>>542225587
4000 calories is like 1500 freedom calories tho
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>>542231535
that's the hormones the jews give poultry, don't eat chicken if you don't want to troon
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>>542225587
Some days I just don't eat.
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>>542228648
Your glag suggests otherwise: what aussies call fat Americans call thin.
My 10yo niece weights 113kg+, her grandfather is 300kg+
The girl doesn't even know she's fat.
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>>542225587
TRT just fucking take it already. You’re an idiot if you don’t take it.
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>>542225587
>pizza at my favorite place has a bit thicker crust and they have dope fat garlic sauce and it's 4000+ kcal to eat
maybe don't eat an entire pizza at once lardass
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>>542227929
This, I used to be fat but very active and now I get foot problems, keep the weight off as a young person and you'll be grateful as an old man.
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>>542225587
I cant gain weight (or lose weight).
fat people are definitely healthier than me
Anyone complaining about their "weight" is a certified spoiled faggot
Enjoy your food because i can't
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I eat once a day at 6PM and have a single snack around 9-10PM, and that's with physical activity, get a grip
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Ate like 1kg of chocolate over 2 days will I make it
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>>542225587
I eat around 900-1200 calories a day. Just don’t eat, it’s that simple.
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>>542225587
All you have to do is eat less.
No love handles on Ghandi
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>>542225587
>get a job doing physical work
>do some other fitness on the side like mma/boxing, or buy and ride a bike around. Since you're a lardass you can even get ebikes with pedal assist so you can get your workout without blowing your heart up
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>>542232564
>I literally don't even eat enough to keep my brain from starving and I probably have brain damage now please be like me
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>>542232375
What kind of foot problems? You can solve many of those by just wearing the right shoes and training your walk.
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>>542232740
I’m 5’10” and still have a decent amount of weight. If you are 6’5” then maybe increase it to 1500-2000 calories a day,
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Im 6'2 I used to be 190 and work out but then I went schizo and hallucinating so they locked me in a ward and gave me schizo pills. They didn't tell me the schizo pills raise your blood sugar so now I'm 285 and diabetic. Down from 303 so I guess it's a start.
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>>542225587
You have developed insulin resistance.
When you start to address that, your cravings will become less intense.
I hear they eventually go away unless you legit need food, but I'm only a couple of months in.

Insulin resistance is pretty much THE underlying cause of everything you hear about American health problems.
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>>542225587
Turned 30 recently and hit my highest weight. About 220lbs and 6’ tall. I’m not obese by any measure, but I was getting very soft and double chinned. I started a basic diet and already down 10lbs.
>after dinner, don’t eat anything until lunch the next day, except for black coffee
>very limited soda and alcohol
>no chips, bread, pasta
>take a short walk after dinner
I’ve barely noticed that I’m “on” a diet and I’m losing about 2-4 pounds a week. It really is that easy. Just don’t be a fat fuck snacking all day.
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>>542233098
Good luck friend, you can do it
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>>542225587
As with most things in life, it's about attitude and lifestyle. If you'd even been active in your life you'd know that it reduces your appetite. Your body starts asking for what it needs, rather than craving things. Your stomach shrinks, your metabolism shoots up, and you stop wanting empty calories because you can feel that they don't have what you need.

I've been awake for 8 hours today and I've eaten 2 small bananas, 1/2 cup of oatmeal, and 3 fried eggs on a slice of bread. I had to choke some of that down because I'm just not hungry like that. 6'2" athletic 215lbs.
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>>542226065
why are you so short?
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>>542225587
Intermitient fasting, suppplying with fibre before eating anything, and eating mostly protein and fat instead of carbs. And if these are carbs they are complex ones.
Here you go. You do not even have to move. But you can add like 2minutes plank, 2 minutes wall sit, 2 minutes reverse plank, 2 minutes horse stance daily routine and you are set for life.
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>>542225587
>how the fuck are you not obese?
I don't eat carbs, Rumburak.
Simple as.
>I don't work physically and walk for about 2 hours a day
Irrelevant. Excess body fat comes from eating carbs and physical activity will not help getting rid of it.
This is why they say that you cannot outrun your diet.
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>>542225587
>according to online calculators I would need to eat about 2400-2600 calories to not be overweight
thats bullshit
they all are comped to make you overeat
work out
and eat small portions, after each portion take a break and wait for your hunger to disappear
dont overeat
its as easy as starting to exercize
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>>542233828
This. Exercise is great and will help your body a lot. Weight loss from exercise is minimal though. Diet is 90% of the weight loss process
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>>542233915
They work in tandem however. Small meals are practical because they fuel the next thing you're about to do. If you don't have the activity that's using the fuel, on paper there's no constraint to your body asking and asking for more food.
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>>542225587
Stop eating slop Stanislaw.
I'm 44yo, don't work out or exercise at all, im 6'1" and ~180lbs.
Literally just create a small calorie deficit.
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>>542228653
40 minutes a day.
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>>542225587
our bodies are made to stockpile fat to last the winters
skinny fags will be eaten first
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>>542233655
Nice cope, fatty lmao.
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>>542232291
>take test
>now you have to take it for the rest of your life cause you put more test into your body than its naturally capable of producing on its own

muscle trannies are even more pathetic than gay trannies
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>>542225587
>a decent dinner with dessert and sweet drink
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I like how you Euros are fat fucks too now.
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>>542234754
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
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>>542225587
I am 205lbs and 15 percent bodyfat. You fatties should be melted down into biodiesel
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>>542234889
Sweet drinks imo are responsible for 99% of obesity. It’s so easy to stack another few hundred calories to your diet by adding a few glasses of soda or sweet juice to your meals. I drink almost exclusively water and milk and live very healthy. My weight stays steady and my teeth are flawless despite minimal care.
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>>542234866
>rest of your life
you know nothing about endocrinology. your men’s-health tier pseudo science is worthless and your advice is on the same level as instathots selling gut health pills. Kys, you retarded niggerfaggot.
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>>542234754
>t.
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>>542235131
Isn't lactose a sugar? Does it not act the same as what is in sodas or juice?
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>>542229954
>just take away all good things away from your life
food, masturbation and internet is what makes me want to live
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>>542225587
I walk and don’t eat much. I also spend 1.5 years fasting intermediately and walking/jogging.
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>>542235651
I dunno. Maybe a bit, I’m no expert. But I’d assume sodas and sweet drinks far exceed the sugar levels of 2% milk
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Lean is law. Just eat less.
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>>542225587
>muh pizza 4k calories
bullshit

youre fat, you eat too much. the end. you cant be fat while eating too few. fucking idiots. its simple logic but fat people, who eat too much, just cant accept this.
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