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Should I get a diagnosis so I can get stimulants? They sound pretty good to get off your ass and your life in order. Do NEETs need stims?
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Never tried them.
Kinda curious.
But would probably just make me into a better wage slave.
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Those are clearly blue pills, anon.
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>>542235117
Adderall is based and definitely helps you get through studies / work with relative ease but the downside is you still ultimately become an amphetamine addict and Adderall withdrawal is no joke.
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>>542235117
200ml Ritalin, grind it and snort it. Pharma grade meth. If you're doing a pharma run for lots of pills say you're depressed, wellbutrin...synthetic cocaine. Grind and snort.
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Yeah I wish I had some, but dont take them every day. You dont need to be on uppers every single day of your life and they will turn you into an annoying retard. But if you take them once in a while if your in a cleaning mood or want to play a round of golf or some other fun activity go for it. Physical activity kind of sucks when youre on that crap.
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>>542235117
im on vyvanse, saved my life
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>>542235117

Go back to India you inbred Hindu rape rat spammer. We should recruit NEETs into being drone bombing operators bombing India 24/7 and feed them Adderall until they die as long as they keep killing Hindu rape rats
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>>542235237
You can get Ritalin here.

>>542235117
Ask for the thc pill. Say you've got body pain from withdrawal.
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>>542235408
How so? What was your life like before and after?
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>>542235477
> Ask for the thc pill. Say you've got body pain from withdrawal.

Weed only makes me lazy and extremely paranoid, why would I want that?
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>>542235484
unbearable anxiety and depression, playing vidya and doom scrolling for most of my life, zero relatinships, now im a functioning adult
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>>542235408
If you shove it up your ass, you'll bypass the digestion system and get pretty high if you grind up the beads then shove them up there.
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>>542235117
It's amphetamine, aka speed. Speed honeymoons are great, but they never last.
Then paranoia kicks in and your body starts noticing the wear.

Have fun.
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>>542235552
theres no beads like in your SSRI's, its white powder
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>>542235117
Just get modafinil and take it forever, don't buy the Indian brands, they're fakes.
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>>542235117
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>>542235531
Then avoid it then if it fucks with you. Tell the doctor you were on Ritalin and it was successful then and you'd like to do it again.
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>>542235543
Was it easy to get a diagnosis? I feel like doctors are stingy here and think any adult looking for an ADHD diagnosis us a potential drug-seeker who just wants to get high.
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>>542235117
those pills do not work for fattie poopjeets op
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They destroy your personality, which is probably a good thing for you. The voice in your head goes away and you just do what you need to do. It’s also an appetite suppressant so you might lose that spare tire too.
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>>542235669
>drug-seeker who just wants to get high
Because that's what every single one of you faggots in these threads are.
Stop fucking lying.
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>>542235625
Are there any drugs worth ordering online from India jeet? I see online pharmacies based in India that sell all kinds of stuff.
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>>542235237
I hate that politicians/bureaucrats treat me like an an addict and make it unnecessarily difficult to get Adderall.
If you ask me we should make all this shit legal for anyone to buy over the counter.
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>>542235601
It's beads in a gel cap here. Sold lots of other guys drug in prison. Vyvanse you need to butt chug so you get hit with the full dose.

Same thing if butt chugging booze. A shot vodka will fuck you up if you butt chug it. Two might kill you. Body breaks a lot of stuff down before the intentional lining stage absorbs directly into your blood stream.
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>>542235669
if you go to the public healthcare it could take up to a year, i had some money saved up since i didnt do much outside my home and went to a highly rated expensive private psych specialized in ADHD who immediately recognized my condition, a man of course, never go to a woman doctor, they will only argue with you
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>>542235841
right, to be fair im using the european version Elvanse and its white powder
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>>542235798
Mexico is cheaper and delivery is no problem. Lots of Mexican drug shops. If you're buying interesting drugs. Vasopressin nasal spray. A very useful nootropic that you'd find interesting.

https://erowid.org/smarts/vasopressin/
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>>542235760
I don’t see why looking to improve my life should be suspect. These same doctors reluctant to prescribe ADHD meds have no problem getting everyone on SSRIs.
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>>542235117
looks like a blue pill tbqh with u homo
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>>542235633
Reminds me of:

>143. Since the beginning of civilization, organized societies have had to put pressures on human beings for the sake of the functioning of the social organism. The kinds of pressures vary greatly from one society to another. Some of the pressures are physical (poor diet, excessive labor, environmental pollution), some are psychological (noise, crowding, forcing human behavior into the mold that society requires). In the past, human nature has been approximately constant, or at any rate has varied only within certain bounds. Consequently, societies have been able to push people only up to certain limits. When the limit of human endurance has been passed, things start going wrong: rebellion, or crime, or corruption, or evasion of work, or depression and other mental problems, or an elevated death rate, or a declining birth rate or something else, so that either the society breaks down, or its functioning becomes too inefficient and it is (quickly or gradually, through conquest, attrition or evolution) replaced by some more efficient form of society.[25]
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>144. Thus human nature has in the past put certain limits on the development of societies. People could be pushed only so far and no farther. But today this may be changing, because modern technology is developing ways of modifying human beings.
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>145. Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy, then gives them drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction? It is already happening to some extent in our own society. It is well known that the rate of clinical depression has been greatly increasing in recent decades. We believe that this is due to disruption of the power process, as explained in paragraphs 59–76.)
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>>542235117
Pharmakike drugs are poison and bad for you
Street drugs like cocaine and meth are fine, as long as you use them in moderation.
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>>542235935
It's different facilities that manufacture drugs, here Saskatchewan does tonnes of online drug sales and between there Montreal facilities they go with what's handy. Would not surprise me. I don't take of these but explaining product details selling products in prison. Adderall being the easiest to sell 50 beads for a meal or canteen item than Vyvanse because of the butt chugging step. But got it on expert meth head testimonials that grinding it up and putting up your ass will get you high.
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>>542236400
Vyvanse is made as slow release to deter abuse, doctors here dont prescribe immediate release amphetamines, adderall is banned, potential for addiction and abuse is too great
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>>542235680
I’m in bed for 14 hours a day. I don’t think I need an inner dialogue.
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>>542236345
> Pharmakike drugs are poison and bad for you
>Street drugs like cocaine and meth are fine, as long as you use them in moderation.


Not only would I never be able to find or contact a drug dealer coke is terrible for the heart. I have a family history of heart disease. I see people who obviously use meth out and about sometimes and they look demonic with taut skin and sunken cheeks and dead eyes. I don’t think anyone can use street meth in moderation.
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>>542236639
hello? that is clinical depression get some meds or keep suffering
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>>542236946
>coke is terrible for your heart
This is pharmakike doctrine. Don’t believe what (((doctors and scientists))) tell you. It was fine for 100 years before jews banned it.
>demonic meth heads
This is where the moderation part is necessary. You’re seeing people who cannot use in moderation.
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>>542237370
there is a famous singer here who got exposed as a meth addict, he stored his own meth pee to hose inside his ass when he didnt have real meth, he even used IV bags to hydrate
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>>542235117
Diagnosed age 16, started on Dexies, gave me psychosis... went back to the doctor as an adult around 4 years ago, took myself off the medication because it was doing my head in.
My advice, just stay away from it, and try something else.
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>>542236972
I take Paxil. I still do nothing all day and have no interests and motivation only now I just don’t think of suicide anymore.
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>>542237370
Meth users all seem to be gooners who just tinker with shit and get paranoid until they eventually collapse after two weeks of no sleep. Is there such a thing as moderate meth use?
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>>542237481
how can you be a famous singer and not have access to real meth? I’m a retard and I could get great Coke, all 3 types of ketamine, meth, heroin, opium, Xanax, ambien, or any other type of drug within 30 minutes of making a phone call. wtf, perkelebro?
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>>542237746
meth is VERY rare here, i dont even know how he got hold of it in the first place, thats why the dude got high with his own piss, the supply must be atrocious
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>>542237633
You watch too many movies. the percentage of average people who use drugs recreationally is staggering. It’s the norm, not the exception. You’re just seeing the extremes who can’t handle their shit and crash out in public.
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>>542235117

Adderall is fantastic, as an ADHD enjoyer. Tips for use: use the lowest effective dose and take breaks from using it so you don't grow resistance or dependant. This is not medical advice talk to your doctor but that's how come I'm not a fucking junkie.
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>>542237836
The domestication of White men demands a docile population. Take away any escape, force them to live in your controlled reality, and you’ll own them and their children forever, without any resistance.
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>>542238075
normal speed, benzos and marijuana are the most used drugs here, its a popular finnish meme that all runescape enjoyers are doing speed
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An unscrupulous third world doctor put an ex of mine on a cocktail of meds for supposed ADHD and it triggered psychosis like symptoms.
She had a respected position in academia (and had got there without needing this medication) but the drugs did horrific things, it was horrible to see.
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>>542235117
It's great, but stick to your effective dose and don't abuse it.
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>>542238207
Calvin Klein (cocaine and ketamine) is the king of all rides. A dissociative stimulant that lowers inhibition, removes the cloud of emotion, and enhances the natural drive to accomplish tasks…all under the glow of a euphoric sun. I remodeled my kitchen, started a successful business and trained my gf to be a proper wife, with the assistance of psychological chemistry.
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>>542235117
So you're shopping drugs to offset what you view as "bad traits" in yourself? You can do it but I can't say I recommend doing so, you'll just go through a long process of finding out you don't actually need the drugs.

I say this after having done so myself, if you still want to do so then steer clear of or limit your access to drugs with higher addiction potential, by not befriending your sources.
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>>542238526
>I remodeled my kitchen, started a successful business and trained my gf to be a proper wife, with the assistance of psychological chemistry.
based
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>>542235117
yes, take hard drugs every day, what could go wrong. must be legit if the shrink says so
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>>542235760
My sister got it just by saying she has nk energy and cant focus at work. She has never been diagnosed with anything. I was DIAGNOSED ADHD and I cant get the meds I used to take because I'm a man
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I see videos and comments on YouTube about how getting a diagnosis as an adult completely changed their lives, and they wish they did it sooner. But then I remember that I'm on YouTube, and I shouldn't listen to them.
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>>542238818
switch docs, never go to a woman, they dont care about men
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>>542238979
Its basically all women there. Do I just ask for a male or how does that work? They all chat and gossip.
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>>542235117
>Should I get a diagnosis so I can get stimulants?
I started pissing blood after using ADHD meds. Haven't talked to a doctor yet, just stopped using them and the bloodshed stopped. I was supposed to go on frequent blood pressure check-ups but I kinda ignored it. Apparently high blood pressure and concerta doesn't treat the kidney's too kindly. The meds did however get me to wash my penis and clean my apartment. Going to book a session with my psychiatrist and see if there's something you can do about it to keep me on those meds, but I doubt it. My bloodied piss war literally of the consistence of syrup.
>inb4 fatty has high blood pressure
I'm not fat, my BMI's optimal and physique's not criticisable.
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>>542239109
you cant choose the doc you are paying for? what the fuck?
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>>542235117
No you should get a diagnosis so you can get on gibs. Dont take any brain pills, theyre all bad. Then you should still work but only odd jobs for cash to supplement to gibs and to keep yourself honest and active.
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>>542239219
How fucking high? 200/100? Drink some water, were you dehydrated?
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>>542239219
i got panic attacks and starting psychosis from concerta, i stopped that shit immediately and switched to elvanse, it works amazing with the only side effect being a really dry mouth, you have to brush your teeth and drink religiously so your teeth dont rot
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>>542235117
In the US generics are complete garbage. Recently because of supply chain shortages they’ve become unusable. The binders and fillers used ti deliver the drug trigger adrenaline, cortisol dumps, and massive inflammation that ramps up your immune system. Zero liability for pharmaceutical companies on the generic. Best experience requires brand only medication. Thank me later.
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>>542239315
And when I do get her, I have to make an appointment 2 months in advance for like 9am on a Tuesday. Ill be seeing her the 28th this month to try again.
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>>542239580
thats absurd honestly, swap healthcare providers then, cancel until you get a man
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>>542239498
its scary that americans are just pushed in to an industrialized heatlhcare system like carttle where you cant even choose the doctor who couldnt give a fuck about you your paying for, on top of having to eat poison pills
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>>542240407
Here’s one I’m considering. Pricey but maybe worth. 1 billion percent I have been misdiagnosed by a dozen healthcare retards (public and private).

As an aside—WHY IS EVERYONE SO FUCKING RETARDED?
I broke my collarbone and a doctor and 2 image techs could not spot the fracture. I demanded to see the scans (behind the wall) and spotted it myself. Why the fuck am I, a man of reasonable intelligence, more qualified than a fucking doctor?
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>>542241445
>I broke my collarbone and a doctor and 2 image techs could not spot the fracture

most normies get where they are by pure memory, the school system favours people with good memory, not real logical intelligence
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>>542239400
Can't remember the numbers, but they were quite above average so they were seriously doubting giving me the medication at all until I managed to produce a acceptable blood pressure rating. I drink religiously about 2-3 litres of water each day, doesn't seem to help. As I said, the meds seem to have been the cause of the bloodshed, as abrupt abstention immediately fixed the external problem. But obviously my kidneys have taken some damage and should be checked up on. Can they measure kidney health by blood tests or will I have to pee in a cup again?
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>>542239491
>stopped that shit immediately and switched to elvanse
When I got "diagnosed", they told me there were alternatives to concerta, so I guess that's an option. However, I did chose the cheaper variant at the pharmacy, Methylphenidate Viatris. They told me the chemistry's the same, but I doubt it. Elvanse probably has some distinct chemistry.
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>>542240407
Yes it is. It’s a literally a deadly jungle in consumer culture in the US. The food is even worse.
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>>542235117
Wellbutrin.
Gets you off your ass, but doesn't turn you into a meth addict, unless you are a complete loser.

You can cut the pill in half and take it if you have side effects from a full dose. Don't tell the doctor. Also, don't crush it and snort it unless you are into seizures and being a douche bag.

Remember, it is a crutch. Use it and try to heal to the point you can throw it away.
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>>542242107
its not the same at all, concerta is methylphenidate, the generic version is also much less acting than the Janssen original i bought, Elvanse is totally different, its amphetamine and works totally different way than concerta
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>>542235798
Anything with USP labeled on it and "export only" would be worth trying.
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>>542235117
Stims made me schizophrenic. I spent 3 years thinking I was Ra the sun god and my TV could read my thoughts.

Stimulants are fun, but fucking evil.
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>>542235237
I'm not addicted at all to vyvance. I have an extremely addictive personality owing to adhd and I'm taking a drug holiday with ease.
I struggled with with addiction for years.
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>>542243556
With weed addition*
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>>542235117
I took them until they started ruining my liver. Eventually couldn't even drink a single beer without vomiting.

I was 200% more productive. But its taken about 3 years to be able to have a few casual drinks now.
For all the talk of withdrawls I never had any problem just going cold turkey. I actually did it 3 times. I'd 'cycle off' from time to time to make sure i was still a sane human being.
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>>542235117
Protip you dont need a diagnosis you just give people like fast treat $100 a month to give it to you legally. Then you figure out if it works or not.
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>>542243373
Intradesting. Well, hope I get that prescription then.
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>>542235117
is hard on the heart for long term use
but the effects are kickass
best high i ever had
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No, they have a 30% of psychosis as a side effect. Also you are not broken. Modern society is.
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>>542235237
I'm on 15mg and sometimes I dont take it. Only difference is im back to being as unproductive as before.
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>>542235117
adderall is great but they make you try concerta and vyvance before giving you amphetamine salts
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>>542235117
Constant source for dopamine but phenylanime can help. Depends on blood work. Yes, it can be abused like anything else.
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>>542243597
me too, i doesnt even cross my mind anymore to smoke, like i have better things to do now
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>>542243556
adhd is fake. It was created so people didn't have to tell you you're a moron, and it helped monetize it. So you're not just a fucking useless moron, you're a goy slave.
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>>542244331
how do you explain that speed turns these morons in to usually above average intelligence individuals?
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>>542244331
If I’m a moron I should be able to improve my lot in life through chemistry no?
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>>542241802
>2-3 liters
A an adult male should consume at least a gallon of water a day. You are dehydrated.
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>>542235760
i have no interest in getting high i just want to spend more than 10hrs a week studying
i'll get around to it at some point
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>>542235117
Yes. Take vyvanse. It can help you succeed. Its like viagra for your brain.
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>>542235363
Youve never done meth, meth is like a spiritual expirience. You couldnt handle meth
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>>542235237
>Adderall withdrawal is no joke.
I had to start using caffeine to get through 12 hour shifts and even the crashes from that are insane. 4 days of caffeine use, literally just 8oz of coffee 4 days in a row and I pass out on my first day off. My first weekend day I sleep for 16+ hours and wake up in a daze.

If you use Adderall it's literally meth, it's a stimulant drug that will fuck with your neurons and destroy your natural sleep cycle. Coming off it is literally like coming off a meth binge. You'll sleep for days and feel like shit for long periods of time. The long term neurological effects are worse. You can't force faster performance out of your brain. You're overloading it and destroying it slowly.
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>>542235117
I got a diagnosis earlier this year after talking to some friends and coworkers about their symptoms. Come to find out my parents thought I had ADHD when I was a kid but never did anything about it. Im not super hyper compared to some of my friends who were on Adderall so I thought I didn't have it but I realized I definitely have the inattentive-type presentation pretty strongly.

Meds have made a huge difference and I realized it would have made a big difference if I started earlier in life. Maybe I'll regret it in the future but I'm definitely more productive, organized, and attentive to people in my life.
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>>542247553
Its not meth, meth is ten times stronger than amphetamine
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>>542247553
>You can't force faster performance out of your brain. You're overloading it and destroying it slowly.
I'm absolutely lazy and retarded when I'm not on lisdexamfetamine doe
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>>542235117
>Why can't responsible home chemists just save up their sudafed for private personal engagements?

Ma'am that is a poisonous bush in pill form.
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Vyvanse feels like MDMA to me. Way too fucking powerful for productivity if you don't have ADHD. I microdosed it to study, but I also used it recreationally as a party drug to increase alcohol tolerance and charismamax in college.
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>>542247553
Literally meth is called Desoxyn. Yes, psychiatry jews will prescribe actual methamphetamine for "severe ADHD". Adderal is dextroamphetamine, which is just shitty speed(amphetamine). Lrn2drug.
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>>542235117
if you dont want to take adulterated street amphetamine its the perfect way to get high...



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