[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/pol/ - Politically Incorrect


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: kr.jpg (26 KB, 335x597)
26 KB JPG
There were MANY chances for Kyiv Regime:

- Kursk Offensive 2024 could've succeeded, they could've had territory to bargain with
- Russian Forced Sloppy Mobilisation 2022 could've collapsed regime
- (((Prigozhins))) "stab in the back" could've succeeded
- Iran war could've been won, and then oil prices would've collapsed dragging Russia down economically
- Putin might've had serious health issues
- Central Asia or Georgia or some other neutral countries could've opened second front
- Belarus could've been flipped (although it's not like they've tried too hard this time)
- Counter Offensive 2023 could've succeeded
- Bakhmut could've withstand (Russia really paid an absolutely insane price, it was largely a suicide mission for prisoners who wanted redemption for the sake of relatives/kids or whatever).

Anyways, so many things might've gone differently. But given how this are now - looks like the war is pretty much lost for Kyiv Regime. And soon Kiev will be liberated from these jews and their lackeys!
>>
Russians don't have fuel right now.
>>
File: are_you_stupid.jpg (85 KB, 925x1081)
85 KB JPG
>>542240421
>Russians don't have fuel right now.
>>
>>542240350
>kirsk offensive 2024 could have succeeded
Nope. No chance. Not enough troops, not enough equipment. Now a Kursk 2023 offensive? THAT would have worked. 15x the troops, 25x the IFVs and tanks. Still had functional SAMs. Had a fully western standard army to tip the spear. Backed by a TON of battle-hardened veterans.

Instead they YOLOed a minefield…..
>>
>>542240557
>Nope. No chance. Not enough troops, not enough equipment. Now a Kursk 2023 offensive? THAT would have worked. 15x the troops, 25x the IFVs and tanks. Still had functional SAMs. Had a fully western standard army to tip the spear. Backed by a TON of battle-hardened veterans.
Yeah, I agree, they burned their best stuff in utterly meaningless attack on a well-fortified positions. If instead they attacked Kursk then - it would've been a different story. But I guess that wasn't what they wanted, on approach to Moscow, they would've been nuked, lol.
So, the plan with Kursk was different, not "all the way to Moscow", but hold SUBSTANTIAL territory, so that they have something to bargain with. And now they don't have any territory to bargain with.
>>
>>542240421
Is this as good as it gets for the AFU in 2026?
>>
>>542240927
Stalemate means it's always as good as it gets. I'd just sit back and keep droning oil refineries if I was them. No need to do more desu.
>>
>>542241044
>Stalemate
Russia is on a clear course to take Slovyansk (their symbolic objective).
At this pace it'll be another year or more, but still, they keep moving almost every day.
Frontline is anything but static.
>>
>>542241197
Yeah, same as my toenails are on a clear course to China.
>>
Trump should have maduro'd zelensky when he visited the white house. He had a chance to force peace. He instead let zelensky leave, and the eu nations rallied behind him to help escelate by attacking inside of Russia. All for nothing... the deal they'll get in 2026 is the deal they could have had in 2022 with the exception of a million dead men.
>>
>>542240421
Yes, they also don't have guns and are fighting with shovels since 2022. Very grim.
>>
>>542241560
No wonder they haven't been able to take the Donbas since 2022. Very grim indeed.
>>
>>542241329
>Yeah, same as my toenails are on a clear course to China.
I mean, not toenails, but maybe it's like walking to China. Would take many many months, maybe over a year, but no impossible in principle, and given that you've already walked over 50% of the way, and nothing and no one have stopped you so far, it only seems inevitable.
>>
>>542240421
Can you please tell them?
And tell them also that they already ran out of missiles years ago!
>>
File: kyiv mule2.jpg (2.49 MB, 3577x2559)
2.49 MB JPG
>>542240350
>Kiev
It's Kyiv. Has been for years. Keep up with English naming conventions if you don't want to instantly out yourself as an ESL.
>>
>>542241806
It's been 5 years bro. They were closer to taking Slovyansk in 2022 than they are now.
>>542241943
They don't have fuel and are seething about it constantly. The videos are amusing for sure. Really bad for the economy though.
>>
>>542242201
So is Lake America
>>
>>542240758
Its pretty clear they beleieved their own propaganda.
>Russia wqs spent
>Russia had no defense
>Russia would collapse with a push
>they felt so confident they openly posted their operational plans WITH timetables weeks in advance
>failed to achieve hour 1 objectives after 100days
It was a disaster and brought on almost entirely because they thought with all the equipment, western training, western MBTs\IFVs and western soldiers (tens if thousands if “ex”-NATO soldiers participated in the attack), the Russian front would collapse like Iraq.

So Id argue hubris was what got them. Not fear of being nuked (lets be honest if Stalin was still in charge nukes would have been used YEARS ago).

>>542241943
>>542241560
I mean, whats a missile but a very fast long ranged shovel?
>>
>>542240421
Also no washing machines - all were disassembled to make self-propellant shovels to replace missiles that we can't produce.
We are largest resource country on Earth and China is our friend. We can produce and replace anything in any capacity given the time. And the time we have plenty.
>>
>>542242715
Why don't you have fuel then?
>>
>>542242231
>It's been 5 years bro. They were closer to taking Slovyansk in 2022 than they are now.
Well, sure, that 2022 Autumn AFU where they lost Izyum and Kherson was a huge set back. After which they had unpopular mobilisation, and were only moving forward ever since.
>>
>>542243080
>After which they had unpopular mobilisation
Why was it unpopular?
>>
>>542243146
>Why was it unpopular?
Lol, mobilisation is always unpopular. Mobilisation means you're basically forcing people to go to fight! Ideally you just have volunteers, if you can motivate your populous enough. Loads of people ran away!
>>
>>542242810
Because if you hoard missiles and drones produced by the whole NATO for a year and then launch them all at once in your PR stunt, you can manage to create temporal issues for a couple of months. Then the stuff gets repaired and nothing changes (we produce oil, we don't really care if some of that burns, that doesn't, we don't even have to buy it). But the shills can gloat for years about a couple of hits. NATO weapon production cannot break our defenses and the ability to repair. You don't even try to hit military targets anymore, you go for a few civilian marketplaces and refineries because they are highly flammable and aren't protected. But Ukraine gets as much targets hit per day as they manage to strike within a year, including actually valuable stuff like industrial capacity and critical infrastructure - but that's fine, right?
>>
>>542242451
>So Id argue hubris was what got them.
Dunno, there was no air domination, I think they knew it was doomed from the start. They didn't care.
>>
>>542243483
>PR stunt
it's not really a PR stunt if you don't have fuel, is it?
>>
>>542243547
Who told you that? I order food each week, I don't even shop. Tell me, how can I do that if they don't have fuel? If they were sending couriers on their feet with 30kg of food, it probably would have been a bit more costly to me and I would have noticed, don't you think?
>>
File: HCm10wZbkAEwb46.jpg (50 KB, 680x676)
50 KB JPG
3 more days and queen Volodymir is ours
>>
>>542243699
You have to order it because you have no fuel.
>>
>>542244768
Logistics working without fuel is something new. Than who cares? If the supposed lack of fuel doesn't affect anything, then what is your point?
>>
>>542245050
If fuel is such an irrelevant luxury of modern society, why did Russia build its economy around it?
>>
>>542245174
I don't know. Apparently clueless retards keep buying it not knowing the enlightened ways of not requiring fuel for anything which you have just invented.
Russians can order stuff to their door, fly sorties of 8000 gliding bombs a month (more than your trillion budged managed to do against Iran in half a year) and all without fuel at all.
>>
File: 1782156052942.jpg (8 KB, 200x200)
8 KB JPG
>>542243699
This says a lot of gas stations in Russia aren't selling any gas
https://maps.tochnyi.info/fuelmap/
>>
>>542245399
>Russians can order stuff to their door
How does it get their without fuel?
>>
>>542245488
They say we launch shovels, and our missiles ran out 4 years ago, also Trump is a Russian agent (absolutely not Israeli one) and Ukraine is winning. Also they say that it's Russia who nuked Japan and a man is a woman. They say many things, keep listening.
>>
File: 1778478948771.webm (2.89 MB, 700x1280)
2.89 MB
2.89 MB WEBM
>>542245676
They are saying many things
>>
>>542245507
Vodka powered balalaika obviously.
>>
>>542245755
This is not popular with Russians. Not because we are loosing it. It's because we don't actually see what we are getting. Russian people don't want Ukraine, they want piece and prosperity. It's just, with NATO it's not possible. We can't have this as long as that thing exists. That's the gist of our sentiments. They probably don't tell you this.
>>
>>542240350
i am genuinely suprised that there are still ukrainian men online. Everyone should have been drafted. Are you all women now?
>>
File: 1765620711790.png (286 KB, 595x584)
286 KB PNG
I've also read russians saying that a man can put his penis in another man's anus, and not be considered gay as long as it was a punishment to the man on the bottom.
Is this true?
>>
>>542246007
I'm sure a faggot like you is interested
>>
>vpnigger cant afford vpn any longer, still shilling for RuAF taking 5 years to conquer som shitty town 20 km from their border.
>>
File: 1765896162602.png (837 KB, 1813x918)
837 KB PNG
>>542246103
It isn't gay in Russia though, so I wouldn't be a faggot
>>
>>542246258
How is it different from your prison rapes? Your soap jokes are in your movies. It's just you also have BBC fetish on top of being gay.
>>
>>542243547
It's literally the same old crap over and over again since Kursk
People took that crap seriously too, only now Russian troops control more of the Sumy region than Ukraine ever controlled of the Kursk and no one is talking about it
The same thing happened with fuel, Ukraine struck a few fuel tanks, and the amount of fuel available for purchase dropped, and unevenly at that, with some gas stations running completely out while others had no problems. And all this despite the fact that there were no major problems, neither public transportation nor the shipping industry faced significant issues. And now Kiev is in flames every day with food shortages, not to mention fuel, and you choose to turn a blind eye to it.
>>
>>542240421
Right. How many days left in the US SPR?
>>
File: 1532718315942.jpg (77 KB, 891x717)
77 KB JPG
>>542240421
Just like we don't have eggs and sugar?
>>
File: 1770470066718457.gif (1.4 MB, 400x300)
1.4 MB GIF
>>542242451
>I mean, whats a missile but a very fast long ranged shovel?
I've never thought about it that way before
>>
>>542240350

Zelensky is at the center for many fraud investigations. Starting with 2014, but because of foreign intelligence agencies like mi6 and cia and mossad, Ukraine lost all soverigenty and became the globalists war playground.

To watch as over 1 million people died before our eyes, and the west pretends it never happened. Thats the motto of the entire west. "It never happend!"

Thats more proof that the west is run by children or the possessed.

Zelensky is probably not a native Ukrananian citizen, because not a single general or politician would ever last that long with all those loses, without saying that the people around him are the problem.

I feel sorry for zelensklk, hes had a lot of people for fraud while being told to commit it.

The west is weird, the pentagon and cia tells people to commit crimes and if they dont, they will be arrested. Very strange.

Very sad too. All those deaths, and on the West there is no humanity at all.

Trump has no humanity. Not a single US General has any humanity. American politicians have not humanity.

Look at Kuschner and Witkoff, two promoters of genocide, it doesnt matter.

All those genocides by the west\idf 100% a pentgon responsibility. The pentagon made no effort to stop or prevent genocide and other crimes, or this war.

Now the pentagon is at war with another country, Iran, and tells Iran that the the people who attack it are off limits, yet the pentagon says they are going to destroy Iran.

No matter what the pentagon was going to use nukes, that is a fact, because not a single person in the pentagon has any self agency. The fact that it got this far is proof that American have no representatives in government in the miltiay.

The pentagon and white hosue and r\ds steal money from the people, the pass legislation that they didnt read or write, but it was all so their stock portfolios could rise.

The Entire Ukraine and Iran and other wars, are all about money, and to hell with the US Constiution.
>>
Well if zelensky isn't gonna surrender, looks like Putin is going to have to.
>>
>>542240350
>- Central Asia or Georgia or some other neutral countries could've opened second front
i remember this one. Gerogia told EU to fuck off with those ideas in 22. Then EU tried a coup so Georgia simply arrested all men distributing money to protesters and boom no protest next day. Very undemocratic.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.