Kinda weird to have a whole-ass theocratic country of 90 million people based on Shi'ism. That's like if you had a whole country governed by Mormonism or Jediism. If you're gonna base your government on Islam, at least make it the correct version, not some weird knock-off.
>>542280091Italy was supposed to be a federation of states with the pope as president, but the anglo freemasons didnt like it
>>542280091How are Shiites any weirder than Sunnis?
>>542280093Because Shi'ism is silly. The basics of Islam are that there is only one monotheistic God and only he should be worshipped and that Muhammad is his messenger. And then Shias do stuff like pray to Ali and Fatima and ask them to help them in their lives, even though they were humans just like you and me. Imagine if there was a sect of Christianity where people invoked the name of John and prayed to John for help.
>>542280091You're going to summon him, wach out he's in the other Iran thread
>>542280091>>542280094there's nothing weird about the intercession of saints, if anything, Sunnis should be ashamed of worshipping Netanyahu and being so shit at war
>>542280094Oh wait. They probably already do that. Silly me. But you get my point.
>>542280095ooh. sounds ominous!
>>542280096This
>>542280096>nothing wrong with intercession of saintswhen I was a Muslim I wouldn't dream of praying to other than Allah, because prayer is considered a form of worship and worshiping other than Allah is like the worst sin in Islam.>worshiping netanyahuhuh?>beng so shit at waryes
Kinda weird to have any muslim country in big 2026, period
>>542280091Sunnism is too susceptible to saudi and turkey, too 'amorphous' with pakistan which iran has a border with. Shiism gives them a clear no-contest canvas where they can say 'oh yea this is actually falsified by the sunni dogs'.Persians are good at this shit. Persianization was a huge problem everywhere they went. Even if you beat them you gradually lose due to incidental persianization whether by cultural diffusion or intermarriage. This is why zoroastrians snuck through conversion even though they're fire worshippers not even people of the book. every caliph had a few persian advisors + favored persian concubine and sometimes a full persian wife.
>>542280096To be honest, Sunni has +10% Cavalry ratio, while Shia has +5% Morale of armies.
>>542280102tldr shiism is the pipeline to cultural persianization and getting loyalists everywhere.
>>542280102I guess it's kinda like the West vs China. China can just do the proper thing quickly while the Western democracies are caught up in philosophizing and political debate.
>>542280103oh yeah, with all this "Heydar! Heydar!" "Never give up to global kikery no matter what!" sentiment. https://youtu.be/EGBZold3-qI
>>542280106I was making a EU4 joke.
>>542280107I agree with the +5 morale thing. Sunnis might've toppled Israel if they had this "Heydar Heydar!!" stuff.
>>542280107Heydar is a cool sounding word. It means something like lion / unyielding warrior. That's exactly the approach we should have towards Israel and the US, to choose death over disgrace by surrender to them.
>>542280103>Shia has +5% Morale of armies.based Shi'atul Ali élan
>>542280094Prophet Muhammad is supposedly a human too, it would be idolatry to worship him as an extra-human because it violates the principles of tawheed, yet Muslims still do this in contrary to what they “believe”. If you treat this “prophet” as otherworldly than you are an idol worshipper goy, our prophets in the Bible are open to criticism and you can critique their work and draw them unto paper without someone trying to behead you for it
>>542280091The funny thing is not even the rest of shiites like khomeinist shiism, some even excommunicate them. They aren’t even properly practicing shiism.
>>542280111Bruh, how are you not ashamed of that flag?
>>542280111Retarded jew.We do not hold any of the prophets in excellence proportionate to that of divinity, no Muslim does this except a retarded sufi. Nobody “worships” the prophets we venetrate him. It is essential to Tawhid Al Uluhiyya to treat the Prophet Muhammad’s ASWS words as infallible in religion because that is what Allah ordered us to do because the prophet does not speak of anything in matters of religion except from God, not from his desire, we do not open critique in the sayings of the prophets because they are the sayings of God.
>>542280112Kinda weird for Zaydi Shias to ally with twelver Shias when Zaydi Shi'ism just seems like quirky Sunnism while Twelverism has this whole pantheon of Imams.
>>542280091>>542280094Sunnis are jewish controlled puppets
>>542280116Maybe Sunni governments but not Sunnism or Sunnis themselves.
>>542280114On paper yesIn reality you have at least 300m retards who think sayyid spit mixed with garlic can heal back pain
>>542280092that'd be kino
>>542280115Shias are not one group that’s how unstable they are, even among subgroups like zaydis there’s differences between them, there are zaydis that do clear cut blasphemy like saying the qurans created and fisq like insulting unmarried or abu baker and then you have mainstream zaydis that agree with Sunnis in 90% of things, the types that adhere to figures like al Shawkani.
>>542280113Why would I? Would I rather have the flag of some Balkan thirdie shithole?>>542280114I was talking about MoMo the Zuttslut directly, if he was just a human being, then why do you worship him just like Christians do to Jesus? If he was a human being how is it that he can’t be drawn into or portrayed into a physical object? Seems like you treat him as an otherworldly diety> we do not open critique in the sayings of the prophets because they are the sayings of GodWhy not? Abraham wrestled with G-d regarding the culling of Sdom and Amorah, saying that there must be at least 1 righteous gentile there, you stole this from us and consider it canon to your religion.Critique and analysis is the basis of any serious religion, and y’all don’t ever question pretty much anything, but oh well, don’t interrupt the enemy while he’s making a mistake o algo
>>542280117While I would like to agree, ISIL wasn't a government.
>>542280106>>542280109bro dont base your reality on what diaspora shia and their fairweather russian/ccp allies say lol
>>542280121You seem like you'd rather wear a gay pride flag than of some Balkan thirdie shithole.
>>542280094That sounds a bit like praying to confucius, mazu or tenjin
>>542280121>he can’t be drawn>he can’t be depicted>so he is DivineThis is your retarded terminology that you are presupposing onto me and the conclusion makes 0 sense, we cannot depict the Prophet Muhammad ASWS because that would be lowering his status into the interpretation of that drawing and because drawings as a whole are forbidden. None of that has any relation to divine properties. I guess I am a fucking God by your logic now since you cannot draw and depict me.>Why not? Abraham wrestled with G-d regarding the culling of Sdom and Amorah, saying that there must be at least 1 righteous gentile there, you stole this from us and consider it canon to your religion.Abraham did not argue against God we do not believe this, this is from your telling which we do not accept. We don’t consider telling from the Christian’s or jews as a canon in our religion, we refer to them as the israiliyyat and we don’t accept or reject them, they don’t hold any value in our religion.>Critique and analysis is the basis of any serious religion, and y’all don’t ever question pretty much anything, but oh well, don’t interrupt the enemy while he’s making a mistake o algoThere are some things that cannot be analyzed or criticized, if you apply critique and analysis to a religion in every field then that’s not a religion anymore because you stripped it away from faith completely and rationalized it.
>>542280124Ok and? Isn’t it more humiliating to be drone striked by a gay kuffar in Tel Aviv? You cope so much that you say that they were “martyered” too and that they will get infinite sex dolls and rivers of alcohol in Jannah. Don’t really think Momo the Zuttslut would have considered him a brave warrior to merit this reward
sunnis act like they're better than other mudslimes and then they go blow themselves up because some obscure hadith told them that the prophet forbade eating fried chicken on 2nd Tuesday of the month because a rock stole his clothes and hid it in a local KFC
>>542280103Zoroastrian gets the 10% discipline monument though, why didn't you choose that?
>>542280128Fuck off /pol/tard, on ramadan muslims pull up mukbang of your shitty polish food so it’s easier for them to fast.
>>542280121Dafuq does it matter that your genocidal, fascist, racist theocracy is technologically advanced? If anything, I don't think you deserve any of your current success and it should all be taken away from you and given to more pious people.
>>542280094>where people invoked the name of John and prayed to John for helpRoman Catholicism does that, literally the main christian denomination. But the idea behind santitute in humans other than Jesus is that in life those people have achieved a closer relation with God so they act as intermediaries for the actions of God for the things they were known to do in life, like you'd e-mail a local representative who's otherwise powerless to make stuff happen on his own but he has the governor's number saved on whatsapp
>>542280130damn nigga sure be havin a short fuse, gotta watch out so he don't blow up
>>542280127I'm an atheist so I don't care about whether it's a gay kuffar from Tel Aviv. I just hate Israelis for being portrayed as eternal victims despite thinking they're a superior race because a bronze age storybook told them so
>>542280133I already blew my fuse inside of your mother after I took her for a concubine
I don't think normies realize how truly problematic the Jewish belief of them being "chosen" actually is. I think it's the purest form of racism for them to think that they're somehow special and for some reason deserve a state of their own, which they actually stole from Palestinians.
>>542280129I'm in 1445, not there yet.
>>542280136One Israeli politician said that he "doesn't believe in god, but believes in the Jewish people." I don't think people realize the blatant racism in this. He really thinks Jews are superior beings to Palestinians.
>>542280094Sunnis bootlick Israel THOUGH
>>542280139not all Sunnis
>>542280140>gulfiesbootlick israel>nafrisbootlick israel>pakisbootlick israel>islamic statebootlicks israelI guess that leaves us with turks and SEA monkeys?
>>542280131> If anything, I don't think you deserve any of your current success and it should all be taken away from you and given to more pious people.That’s not how the world works bucko, hardworking people get to have a good lifestyle, this is just 80IQ socialism but with a thirdie Islamic twist> portrayed as eternal victims despite thinking they're a superior race because a bronze age storybook told them soThat describes the Ummah perfectly, your ancestors wouldn’t have been Muslim without Ottoman Jannisaries conquering you. Your entire outlook of the world stems from Muslim conquerors imposing their religion in your ancestors, you can’t claim to be le oppressed BIPOC while holding unto a quarter of the earth’s surface to Islam
>>542280140Ok golem
>>542280142Well you're just delusional. What exactly do you mean by hard working? Are you saying that people who suffer the most deserve the most success? Then a Pakistani peasant who works in a brick kiln should be more successful than Jeffrey Epstein. Also, nice "no u" for the second argument.
>>542280142Are you people really so retarded to be living on stolen land that was stolen 80 years ago and believe you earned it "fair and square" by "being a hardworking people?"
>>542280094>where people invoked the name of John and prayed to John for help.does he know???
>>542280146I keep forgetting, Christianity really is THAT SILLY.
>>542280145What's retarded about that?
>>542280094> Imagine if there was a sect of Christianity where people invoked the name of John and prayed to John for help.yeah that’d be crazy, if people started doing that we’d have to secede and create a new form of christianity…
>>542280147It's mostly catholicism though
>>542280148Because if he wants to argue that stealing shit is fair game and that you deserve said shit if you can successfully steal it, then he can't criticize me for wanting to forcefully take said shit back away from him.
>>542280150yeah like the main branch? pretty sure orthodox people do that too. only protestants don't
>>542280092>federation of states with the pope as presidentWhen was this proposed?
what's wrong with idolatry?
>>542280092Not true, the liberals were simply coping and projecting their hopes on pius ix before he chudded out following the 1848
The kike is now quietly seething in his bedroom, realizing that I owned him and that he has no rebuttal.
Now watch him angrily report me for saying kike
I am Fares I am thunder
>>542280151It's like evicting a homeless junkie camp to build a medicine factory, then a junkie mob came back years later to demand "their" land back.
>>542280151I don’t recall Mandate Palestine being a fertile ground filled with cities, desalination plants, high rise offices for Tech companies, beautiful well maintained parks. Ursula the Chadette caused a lot of seething at saying that Israel “made the desert bloom” but it’s true. Jews build, and Arabs destroy. Even with infinite money, Saudis can’t even build Neom or any of their retarded side projects. We built this country up from scratch when there were only a few olive groves and malaria filled swamps, you’ll never admit to this because you can’t even pick up a book, your loss at an edyukaishun is to my benefit in the end
>>542280159I'm guessing you're a butthurt kike. You're basically saying that brown Palestinians wouldn't have technologically advanced the Palestinian land if they were left undisturbed for the past 100 years, but brown Jews would have for some reason.
So shia are catholic muslims and sunni are protestant muslims, I will keep that information in mind and use it to shape my worldview from now on
>>542280160Fuck your pride. Fuck your religion. Fuck your people. It's all meaningless to me. No one fucking needs you. White people don't need you one bit. I don't need you. I plan to build a successful future all on my own, without stealing anything from anyone like you did.
>>542280161Israel already contributes more to humanity than every Arab state put together, look at any science and economy chart bro.
>>542280160"I don’t recall Mandate Palestine being a fertile ground filled with cities, desalination plants, high rise offices for Tech companies, beautiful well maintained parks."Well no shit, it wasn't the fucking 21st century back then. Palestinians weren't some fanatical revisionist movement like Zionists were. Just simple people living on the land they were born on.
>>542280163> portrayed as eternal victims despite thinking they're a superior race because a bronze age storybook told them soLmao of course the seething Balkanoid thinks his people are so noble, bro thousands of your coethnics are currently living off gibs in Germoney. You’re not fooling anyone, we all know that stealing is a proud b*snian tradition. Bill Clinton made a huge mistake come think of it
>>542280164So what? Are you saying that Jews are racially superior? That Arabs couldn't do the same if they tried, despite also being brown like a lot of Jews?
>>542280161>You're basically saying that brown Palestinians wouldn't have technologically advanced the Palestinian land if they were left undisturbed for the past 100 years, but brown Jews would have for some reason. I don't even have to say it to know its true
>>542280166I'm not my nationality, retard. I'm just me. I'm not even Muslim.
>>542280168Well just admit that you think they're racially superior. Stop beating around the bush, kike.
>>542280167yes that's easy to say
>>542280161>You're basically saying that brown Palestinians wouldn't have technologically advanced the Palestinian land if they were left undisturbed for the past 100 years, but brown Jews would have for some reason.We have all the other failed Arab shitholes proving that though
>>542280170im not even Jewish bro but you are wrong thinking its a strictly jew vs pali situation when the truth is its jews with unlimited American financing and intelligence vs the Palis.
>>542280167They're undeniably culturally superior.
>>542280171Well, fine. If you admit that you're racist, I won't argue against your position. I just think it's retarded to think that some Semites are racially superior to others because of their religion.
>>542280174>culturally superiorYou're back to beating around the bush. Atheism is growing in the Muslim world. How is an Arab Atheist society functionally different from a Jewish society?
>>542280176It is growing, that does not mean it is dominant.
>>542280177It's probably gonna be dominant in a few decades. My point is that Jews aren't racially superior to Muslim Arabs, but at most only culturally superior. So stop talking about Jews as if they have some special powers that are inaccessible to Muslim Arabs.
>>542280178Muslim culture is incompatible with a modern advanced country
>>542280178>culturally superiorThat's what I said, you're stupid.Racial superiority is a meme.
Once again, the Israeli and American kikes are seething because they can no longer reconcile their doublethink of thinking they're inherently superior to Arabs while also thinking their superiority comes from culture and not from biology.
>>542280180>Racial superiority is a memeWell, I agree. We fucking agree. WE FUCKING AGREE.
How do we even know if Sunnism is the correct form of Islam. For all we know, Alevism or the Druzes or whichever Quran was burned back then may have gotten it right.
>>542280183There's no way to confirm which version of a fairytale is the "correct" one
Q&A type thread
>>542280183The surviving muzzie sect was most likely the most violent one and thus closer to pedo momo's way of life
The last thing I want to say is this. I don't think you have the right to ethnically cleanse or genocide a people just because they're currently not as technologically or culturally advanced as you, even though they could be and they're also not racially inferior to you.
>>542280184>>542280186Loathe as I am for the way they bankrupted their nation while using the region as their chess pieces in their wars with Israel and the other Arab States, I do have a soft spot for Iranians for being the Hellenic or Sinic equivalent of the Middle East and "Iranicising" everything that comes into contact with it. It's really cool shit. I would say that they, along with the Ottoman Turks, are the two faces of the religion in its history.
>>542280187God, do I suck at English. But yeah, Arabs have just as much potential as Jews, and you shouldn't ethnically cleanse them just because they're currently not as advanced as you. They can and probably will be in the future.
kate hikes
>>542280189Not really, Islam inevitably also causes genetic degeneration thanks to inbreeding. Thus Muslims are truly untermensh due to their culture
>>542280191Jews are also inbred.
>>542280192We stopped with that thoEven my grandparents arent releted and they were born in an arab country
>>542280192https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/inbreeding-by-countryWay less than muzzies
>>542280193>>542280194rates of inbreeding and how inbred you are are not the same thing
>mfw I'm in a retarded nonsensical religion competition and my opponents are Judaïsm and Islam
Will it really take the Israeli population realizing how retarded Judaism and all religion is for them to realize "Yeah, maybe we shouldn't have been so inhumane towards the Palestinians, our fellow humans."?
"Jews are intellectually superior."https://youtu.be/0-w-pdqwiBw
>>542280197Even if we were all atheists, the arabs would still believe this is arab land. Most of the violence is due to a war of opposing nationalities. When will the israelis and arabs unite under a united human banner? Maybe if aliens invade earth, and even that may be unlikely
>>5422801531820–1821 First Italian uprisings (Piedmont, Naples). Some patriots and carbonari circles circulate the idea of a confederation of Italian sovereigns with the Pope at the head. 1833 Ferdinand II of the Two Sicilies proposes a league of Italian states to the Pope, Carlo Alberto, and the Grand Duke of Tuscany. 1843 Vincenzo Gioberti publishes Del primato morale e civile degli italiani. Pope as moral president of an Italian League of sovereign states. This becomes the manifesto of the Neo-Guelph movement.1844 Cesare Balbo publishes Le speranze degli italiani, echoing Gioberti's federal vision. 16 June 1846 Pius IX elected. The Neo-Guelph project gains a living protagonist.25 August 1847 Pius IX sends Monsignor Giovanni Corboli Bussi to Florence and Turin with the draft of the Lega doganale (Customs League), modeled on the German Zollverein. Pius IX as initiator.3 November 1847 Preliminary agreement signed in Turin: Papal States + Kingdom of Sardinia + Grand Duchy of Tuscany. A congress is to be convened once Modena and the Two Sicilies join.Feb–Mar 1848 Revolutions. Constitutions granted. Pius IX initially calls for an Italian war of independence against Austria (the "Holy War").June 1848 Pellegrino Rossi appointed papal minister. His program explicitly envisions a confederation of states with the Papal State as a full member. August 1848 Attempt to transform the dead Lega doganale into a Lega politica (political league). 1850 Ferdinand II refuses a broader league with Austria; insists on an alliance of absolute sovereigns only.July 1858 Plombières Conversations between Napoleon III and Cavour. Plan: after a Franco-Sardinian war, create an Italian (or "Italic") Confederation of 4–5 states, with honorary presidency of the Pope (under French protection). Revives both Gioberti's and Metternich's ideas, but strips Austria of Lombardy-Venetia. Pope as honorary president .
>>542280091idk what all those terms mean
July 1859 Armistice of Villafranca. Napoleon III and Franz Joseph I agree in principle to a confederation under papal presidency, but the "small princes" are to be restored. Cavour, prime minister of the Kingdom of Sardinia and Mazzini, leader of the Young Italy in exile from London both reject the outcome.1860–1861 Unification proceeds on centralist lines. The Kingdom of Italy is proclaimed in 1861. The federal/papal model is permanently superseded.1870 Capture of Rome (20 September). The Papal States cease to exist.
>>542280091Iran's vagina flag will never stop being amusing to me.
>>542280199Honestly, I'm siding with the Arabs. Basically every excuse for collective punishment used by Israel against Arabs can also be used against modern day Israelis, except that we theoretically wouldn't even need to be nearly as cruel as the Israelis were to give back Palestine to the Palestinians. Just use all the AIPAC money to bring all the Jews back to where they came from. It really all is the fault of the Jews who decided to emigrate to Palestine.
>>542280152>yeah like the main branch?In France, yes
imagine being turkish rapebaby op oh wait you dont have to
I really don't like IsraelThanks for reading
>>542280206they have azerx zainichis not turkx but i dont think thats rape
>>542280204So its nothing to do with how we pacify their hostilityYou just want to ethnically cleanse us, which is a logical opinion of whoever supports the other side, just dont be a hypocrite masquerading as le enlightened man. If we would kill them in the rate they killed us when they invaded there would be a million dead arabs
>>542280145>muslim talking about stolen landCool when are Arabs all over MENA going back to Arabia?
>>542280131>muslim talking about genocideMuslims genocided Zoroastrians in Iran, Christians all over MENA, the Balkans and Spain.Blatant fucking hypocrites.
>>542280116>flagdo you even look at yourself? fuckin' hell, christcucks are even more cucked and controlled
>>542280209>when they invadedyou invaded. you started the whole conflict. everything could've been Hunky-dory for you in the west if it wasn't for your religious nostalgia for ancient israel. You jsut had to commit nakba.
>>542280209>ethnically cleanseIsraelis aren't an ethnicity. They're a group of settlers from all around the world. It's not ethnic cleansing to kick out illegal occupiers. Ironically, Israelis are the only ones who committed ethnic cleansing.
>>542280213Your kind invaded the land you retardEverything could have been peaceful in the Middle East if Arabs had stayed in their desert instead of genociding the Levantine Christians
>>542280215>Genociding Levantine ChristiansI don't know about that. But in the Balkans the Ottomans didn't genocide Christians. Bosnians were converted from Christianity to Islam, not genocided. Christians who didn't convert were oppressed but nonetheless not genocided.
>>542280215Lebanon is still 30% Christian.
>>542280216>murdering, oppressing and instituting apartheid (kuffars had way less rights in every sense than muslims) is okay when WE do itYou have no fucking right to complain about Israel, they treat Arab Muslims orders of magnitude better than Arab Muslims have historically treated non muslims under their rule.
>>542280213No, we bought land and succeeded from the brits. And your friends abused us into moving to israel after we lived thers even before islam existed. Israel is a liberation movement for one of mena's minorities which you dont even consider as a distinct group. We are an ethno religion, same as the druze and alawites. Jews were scattered but kept cultural and genetic links with each other. You may not call it an ethnicity so call it however you want.
>>542280218>You have no fucking right to complain about Israel,Why wouldn't I just complain about both? You can't tell me what to do.
>>542280219Then why was ethnic cleansing during the Nakba so essential for you if it was all already "bought"?
قال شيخ ابن تيمية رحمه الله إذا اقتتل المجوس والرافضة واليهود فاحمد الله أن أراح المسلمين من بأسهم، وادع الله أن لا تكون فتنتك في أحدهما.
>>542280220So when exactly have you condemned Muslim imperialism, Arab colonization and their genocide of nonmuslims?Never because you support it. You just dont want to admit it (taqiyah).If you did then you wouldnt be saying that the land belongs to arabs.
>>542280223nigger, I'm not even Muslim.
>>542280223>So when exactly have you condemned Muslim imperialismIDK. Sometimes on reddit. on r/exmuslim there were pictures of Muslims destroying ancient statues and that shit pissed me off.
>>542280224If so then why dont you oppose arab muslim imperialism?Arab go home then?
>>542280221Because the arabs didnt accept our existence as non dhimmis in our own state. We are allowed to secure defendable borders from those who wish to undermine our existance after a peaceful compromise has been rejected by them. They proudly attacked us thinking they would annihilate us and had to bear the price
>>542280222funny looking alium letters
>>542280226Palestinians are literally more native to Palestine than the Jewish settlers. "Arab" is an extremely broadly encompassing term that doesn't accurate describe all the nationalities it encompasses.
sunni troon clitty leaking
>>542280229They are not native. They are the descendants of invaders.The cities of the Levant were not inhabited by people who called thenselves arab prior to the Islamic wars of conquestThe land was inhabited primarily by Christian Hebrews, Greeks and Romans.>inb4 greeks and romans are not nativeThey are exactly as native as Arabs are.
>>542280227Dhimmitude did not exist in british mandate Palestine
>>542280232>we couldnt oppress nonmuslims back under christian ruleNo shitUnder muslim rule nonmuslims have always been oppressed (not a single muslim has ever apologized for this btw)
>>542280227But wait. How do you go from "We're just defending ourselves" to "We're also gonna steal their land"?
>>542280227Why do you need to ethnically cleanse 750,000 people to defend yourself?
>>542280233Sorry for Christians being oppressed by Muslims who aren't me. BTW, did you know that ex-Muslims have also been oppressed by Muslims?
>>542280235>>542280234Taking land from enemies who attacked you adds stratigic depth to protect against further attacks, why shouldnt we?Transferring hostile populations is obvious too.
>>542280237>transferring hostile populationsI.E. collective punishment. So you just admitted that you condone a war crime. Debate over.
>>542280238Its not an international law debate.
>>542280236So you agree that Arabs should return to Arabia and give the lands they have occupied for the past 1200 years back to the natived?Anything else is support for colonialism when its done by an ethnic group you like.
>>542280227Assuming you're even right about this. If you don't like dhimmitude, don't fucking emmigrate to a country with dhimmitude. I'm not gonna emigrate to North Korea out of my own whim, not follow their rules, and the ethnically cleanse half the population because the country tried to attack me. You're acting like Jews had no choice but to invade Palestine.
>>542280239Well if you think you can just commit whatever warcrime you want then I'm not gonna stop you.
>>542280241If you dont like the way Israel treats Gazans (infinitely better than dhimittude) just dont emigrate to the Levant.You speak as if the Arabs had no choice but invading the Roman Empire
>>542280240No, I really do think that Palestinians are genetically the closest to ancient Israelites.
>>542280243Palestinians didn't emigrate anywhere. They were already there for centuries and then Zionist settlers showed up.
>>542280243"infinitely better than dhimmitude." I don't remember the ethnic cleansing, theft and destruction of homes in dhimmitude.
>>542280243>>542280246It certaintly wasn't happening in Serbia and Bosnia during the ottoman rule
I make too much sense for these two degens.
>>542280238>collective punishment is a war crimeMuslims commited collective punishments against nonmuslims all the time. But you dont complain about that ofc.From Abd al Rahman III executing 100 random Spanish Christians to cheering crowds of Muslim invaders because a priest publicly said that Jesus is God, to random people, even non jews, being killed in 2023 by hamas to cheering crowds. I remember several Thai migrant workers died back then and Arabs supported that and cheered.Any crime you say that Israel has commited, Islam and Gazans have done worse. So why you support the Gazan war criminals? It's obviously due to ethnoreligious solidarity, which is fine, but dont pretend you are principled.
>>542280241I meant my family lived under islamic rule a few hundred km from here, they were subject to the wims of the rulers. their christian neighbors are probably somewhere in the west while we could stay in the area thanks to israel.>>542280246All of their property was nationalized when they escaped.>>542280242No,but some measures are needed to avoid civil war and further violence. It happened all over the world when nations formed at that time. India, czechia, poland
>>542280246Spanish Christians were genocided in Southern Spain, freakThere are records of Christian nuns being boiled alive for the "crime" of showing crosses in public. By the time Granada was liberated, not a single christian remained in the city.That dhimmitude
>>542280249No, I do condemn all that. I hate Islam.
>>542280250>Some good came from IsraelOkay. But at least half of Israeli settlers were white Jews. There was no good reason for them to emigrate.
>>542280250>Ethnic cleansing is sometimes necessaryI'm done with you dude. I've had enough
>>54228025299.8% of Gazans are MuslimsThey support the genocide of nonmuslims.
>>542280240Israel was established one human lifetime ago. There are Palestinians who witnessed the Nakba who are still alive. I absolutely support giving Palestine back to them. These two things are not comparable, assuming you're even correct about this.
>>542280240BTW. Why does every Jew have a right to "return" to Israel, but victims of the Nakba don't? hmmmm?
>>542280253Jews moving to a different place = invaders and settlers (despite the fact that Jews already lived in the Levant when the Zionist movement started)Muslims moving to a different place = refugees and migrants
>>542280094>Imagine if there was a sect of Christianity where people invoked the name of John and prayed to John for help.That's mainstream christianism lol
>>542280256Whites ruled parts of Africa for up to 500 years. I guess then its not colonialism anymore and blacks had no right to oppose them?Or foreign occupation suddenly stops being foreign at some arbitrary point between 500 and 1200 years?Or are you just a hypocrite who loves Arab colonialism?>>542280257I couldnt care less about Jews.I'd rather the whole region be governed by atheist secular republics in which people of all ethnic backgrounds are respected.My point is that's never going to happen under muslim rule.
>>542280258>Jews moving to a different placeNothing wrong with that, honestly. But how about Jews kicking you out of your own country, inhabiting your stolen land, and calling you and your first generation of children terrorists for demanding you give it back?
Muslims explicitly want to opress and genocide nonmuslimsYou cant claim to oppose genocide while also supporting the establishment of an islamic theocracy which openly supports murdering and torturing civilians just because they are not muslim (just like literally every single muslim government ever).
>>542280260No, it is colonialism, but I'm not gonna demand white south Africans get kicked out of South Africa because the land was stolen a few hunded years ago.I don't love Arab colonialism you schizo.
>>542280261Jews migrated legally to the Ottoman empire and legally acquired land.When independence from the british empire happened, the Jews supported the 2 state division propised by the UN. Muslims rejected this, went to war and lost.How exactly are muslims the good guys here? I dont see it. They literally started a war to genocide people who had migrated there. If you sat that migration is fine, then why was it "stealing" when the jews migrated to the Ottoman empire?Literally everything you say is so biased. Its incredible.Just be honest and say that you feel uncomfortable with the idea that muslims started this conflict.
>>542280260I don't think Israeli rule is better than Islamic rule. I think both Muslims and Zionists have a facade of being civilized which hides the fact that they want to establish religious totalitarianism.
>>542280263Ok so Arab occupation of the Levant is colonialism but you dont want them kicked out?Fair enough, I agree but then the claim that Arabs are natives falls flat.
>>542280264Was the Nakba "legally acquiring land"?
>>542280267The war was started by Muslims who wanted to exterminate the Jews in the region, something that you shouldnt be ignoring.Regardless, you cant use the change of borders past the 1948 war in order to claim that the existence of an independent jewish state as per the un 2 state solution was illegitimate.
>>542280266Are you saying that Palestinians who lived in Palestine in 1947 were descended almost entirely from Arabs who ethnically cleansed Palestine of its native population a few hundred years ago?
>>542280261Arabs were the ones to initiate the violencehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots
>>542280266>>542280269When did Arabs commit ethnic cleansing of Palestine?
Why are they so based?
>>542280269>whites in Africa are colonialist, white man go home>arabs outside Arabia???? Emmm that's not colonialism, because it just isnt, okay!LmaoYou can claim you arent muslim but you constantly downplay the ways in which arab muslims historically and up to this day commit attrocities against others.You are insanely biased at best.
>>542280273>white man go homeI don't agree with that>Arabs outside ArabiaI literally don't think that modern Palestinians aren't native to Palestine. I literally think they're the population closest to ancient Israelites, even more than most modern Jews are.
>>542280271When they persecuted, opressed and exterminated the Christian population of the Levant ever since their occupation started.Examplehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Aleppo_(1850)Are you actually going to claim that nonmuslims were treated equally as muslims by muslim rulers?
>>542280276What I'm asking is what's your proof that Palestinians aren't native to Palestine?
>>542280276And if Palestinians aren't native, then who is? Jews from elsewhere?
>>542280276Who actually has the most right to that land? Certainly not a Jew from Poland.
Muhammad genocided the nonmuslim tribes of Arabia and Muslims regard him as a perfect manIeIslam suppirts genocideEvery Muslim believes that nonmuslims should be murdered. Every muslim supports colonialism, imperialism, war crimes and genocide as long as its from muslims to nonmuslims.Muslims believe in the verse of the sword which states that peace between muslims and nonmuslims is impossible.Not a single majority muslim country today respects human rights, is a full democracy or gives equal rights to people of all religions and ethnic backgrounds.Muslims want to genocide jews in the Levant for the same reason they genocide Sikhs in Kashmir. Yet you cant claim that Sikhs arent native there. The whole "zionism is colonialism" thing is a lie (taqiyah), a justification post-hoc, when in reality for them its just about murdering nonmuslims. If there was no argument that jews were the natives, muslims would still want to murder them, just how they want to murder native nonmuslims everywhere.
>>542280278Jews and Phoenicians.Jews belong there. If they dont then from where are Jews native to? Where did Jews come from?They are not native to europe.
>>542280273"You are insanely biased at best"Nah, I think I sound more like Noam Chomsky than an Islamist. https://youtu.be/5AJlfW0g2rk
>>542280279Who's more native to South Africa?A white boer or the grandchild of a South African black who moved to the US?
>>542280281"Jews belong there"What Jews? Judaism is a religion, guy. Do Khazarian Jews belong there as much as Mizrahi Jews?
>>542280283Unironically the boer.
>>542280283well, not native. But the black kid has no right to go steal the house of the boer
>>542280286What right did Muslims in 1948 have to reject the 2 state partition and invade cities which had been majority Jewish since Ottoman times?
>>542280094>Imagine if there was a sect of Christianity where people invoked the name of John and prayed to John for help.bro....
>>542280287>What right did Muslims in 1948 have to reject the 2 state partitionIDK what you mean. Why shouldn't they have the right to reject it? That's a political decision.>and invade cities which had been majority Jewish since Ottoman times?IDK. Invading a city is not the same as ethnically cleansing said city. But most Jews in Palestine at that time were settlers from elsewhere so IDK how that's even relevant.
>>542280287>What right did Muslims in 1948 have to reject the 2 state partitionthe majority voted against it, majority rules
Damn I was just learning about this last week. They present them as two sides of the same coin but theyre pretty different. I wasn't sure if it was right to say they are out of pocket enough to equate them with Mormons to Christianity who in my book are no Christians at all. Seems it is that way tho.
>>542280435You are contradicting yourselfYou said that migrating is legitimate. Jews migrated legally to the Ottoman empire.The UN partition plan divided the region between Jewish majority areas and Muslim majority areas. Up to that point you cant claim Jews stole anything.Muslims rejected it and wanted to murder the Jews and steal the land they migrated and acquired legally, which is how the war started.It'd be one thing if your position was in favour of a 2 state solution with the 1948 borders, but by saying that Muslims were right in starting the 1948 war you literally support ethnic cleansing when its done by muslims, retard.Every single post of yours itt is taqiyah.
>>542280091i assume jewish supremism called zionist doesn't bother you? Also Iranian nationalism is that the forefront not a religion.
>>542280127>momoI see Israel is affected by nafri culture kek
This whole thread is proof that Muslims are physically incapable of holding coherent principles and viewing nonmuslims as equals
>Bosnian>protesting that other country's existences are strangeGrim.
>>542280091t. Jewlanni's #1 Fan
>>542280733you said "majority jewish since ottoman times"but the ottomans controlled Palestine up to 1917, and at that time Jews were less than 10% of the people in Palestine with about 60,000 of them. In 1947 there were 630,000 Jews in Palestine. So most of these Jews (90%) during the 1948 war were not "there since ottoman times"
>>542280231>They are not native. They are the descendants of invaders.wrong, joan pters argued this in the 80s and got dismantled completely
>>542280237we are gonna pull the plug on your free ride soon enough jew
>>542280733>Jews migrated legally to the ottoman empire>to the ottoman empireHow?the ottomans lost control of Palestine completely by 1920. And even in 1922 there were only 84000 Jews in Palestine. Most Jews in Palestne in 1948 had emigrated there during the british mandate.
>>542280733>>542281404Literally 90% of them were Zionist settlers who emigrated during the time of the British mandate.
>>542281054The North-West coast specifically was already majority Jewish back then. Why havent you condemned the Arab Muslims whi wanted to steal their homes in Haifa and kill them in 1948?The answer is obvious ofcSame reason why no Muslim condemns violence against nonmuslim anywhere.Ethnoreligious supremacism is the only ordaining idea of your "morality". You are a mentally stunted evil savage like all your kind.
Religion is for dumb faggots who can't think for themselves
>>542281536Well I'm not a Muslim so you're already wrong. Fuck Allah. al-zutt be upon Muhammad https://youtu.be/3iY5b4zb_ZkNeed more proof?
>>542281404Jews migrated to the Ottoman empire and the Muslims commited massacres afainst them in Safed and DamascusIt got so bad even the Ottoman sultan mobilized troops to stop ithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1834_looting_of_Safedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_affairYou support this and then claim you oppose genocide, retard
>>542281536Why haven't you condemned them? Perhaps, because I didn't even know about this? Whatever, Haifa isn't all of Palestine. You're just throwing whataboutisms out there..
>>542280091>LE 90 MILLIONMOST IRANNYS JUST WANT IPHONES AND INSTAGRAMTHE AYATOLLAH REGIME AND HIS DEATH TO AMERICA CHANTING HAS LED IRANNY TO RUIN THE COUNTRY IS NOW LITERALLY COLLAPSINGTHE HARDLINERS ARE LIKE A MILLION OR TWO THE IRGC JIHADOIDS WHO REALLY CANT BE CONVINCED A COUPLE THOUSAND THEY MIGHT JUST HAVE TO DIE HARD
>>542281716I asked you if you were ok with the 1948 borders pre war and you said that the Arabs were right in their attempt to ethnically cleanse the whole region from nonmuslimsYour blatant lying only makes the case of the palis look worse and worse honestly
>>542281697>You support thisNo, I don't. Like, so fucking what? Europeans were also committing pogroms and you're here trying to justify the Nakba with anecdotes and whataboutisms.
>i didnt know thatOk so you admit you are ignorant and know nothing about this topicGood
>>542281822>you said that the Arabs were right in their attempt to ethnically cleanse the whole region from nonmuslimsno, I don't support that. I don't have to support everything every Palestinian has ever done to be able to condemn the nakba
>>542280114>Nobody “worships” the prophets, we venetrate himOhh I get itThat's indeed totally different, ofc
>>542281925I don't have to know every single detail to make up my mind about it
>>542281822>>542282056And I don't necessarily agree with you that that's what they were trying to do.
shia vs sunniis more like catholic v protestantswe all think vice versa is a hereticschristians just dont strap bombs and terrorize each other or kill each other over religious differences in Christianity anymore.Imagine if you stone licking carpet kissing pedophile worshipping goat fuckers put aside your differences and bounced the jew and foreign invader from your land. oh wait no you are too stupidly inbred and easy to subvert and you don't really own your oil reserves, the globohomo does, look who owns all the companies that produce and remove your oil.
>>542280091Wtf is even the difference between Shits and Sunnys? Both are freaks that worship a pedophile goatfucker and a black cube. Wtf does it matter if one side likes the cousin of Mahoma and the other is like "achshually, we like the uncle better" or some B.S.?
>>542280093Bigger martyrdom complex. Really, really huge martyrdom complex I think it's how farsoids rationalize centuries of trauma getting butchered by islamized Turks, kinda like how molestees turn gay or gang-raped women go into porn.
>>542280091>>542280094Your head is going to explode when you find out the two countries that are based on the Talmud. Nobody tell him!
>>542280094I'm an Irish catholic and old folks will worship patron saintsProtestantism is gay. But I agree with Sunnis theologically, if I am to grant them that Islam is correctI'm not converting to Protestantism. But I can't defend Catholicism. I don't think I can even call myself ChristianSo I have more or less fallen into Perennialism
>>542282171The Hamas charter of 1988 quotes a hadith which says that the end of the world shall not come until muslims kill all jews. That hadith was obviously penned down long before modern Israel, so it has nothing to do with zionism, its just a call for genocide (just how like Muslims genocided pagans, zoroastrians, christians etc.). In case you didnt know that either.Why do you think they included that in their charter?
>>542280142>That’s not how the world works bucko, hardworking people get to have a good lifestyleKek is that really what Israelis believe?It's easy being a regional power when 150% of your military budget is subsidized by the US taxpayer, you just have to send a WhatsApp to Washington every now and then with the stuff you want, and it get shipped pronto
>>542282342And how does that prove that the Arabs' were fighting the war to ethnically cleanse all Jews out of Palestine 40 years earlier?
>>542282342
>>542282342>>542282479How do you know that that was THE REASON for them to fight the war?
>>542282504Well you see it's for a good reason. So that they would attack us so we could genocide Gaza because all Muslims are evil and deserve to die. It's for the greater good.
>>542282504Every Israeli war crime is for the greater good and has a valid justification at the end of the day
>>542280132>Roman Catholicism does thatThta was his point, you retard. He's dunking on Catholics.
>>542280094>And then Shias do stuff like pray to Ali and Fatima and ask them to help them in their lives,We need to turn Shia Christian
>>542282555Because they said so, openly. They bragged it. Pretty Jewish of you to pretend the oxcart of shit was never there.
>>542280103>To be honest, Sunni has +10% Cavalry ratio, while Shia has +5% Morale of armies....and no one is using cavalry now, yet morale still matters.
>>542282741
>>542280870I didn't think it was in question
>>542280094Catholics do this with Mary.
>>542282211I don't think it is. If u read they are far more different than catholics and protestants. I for one love my catholic bros and see things I wish protestants embraced more.
>>542282555>>542282479Quote from the secretary general of the arab league *before* the start of the war
>>542282664You cant stop justifying muslim war crimesIts hilarious the melty you are having
>>542282741>>542282342They weren't ethnically cleansing the Jews that were there pre-1917. so why did they oppose the 1947 plan and start fighting a war against it?
>>542283068>>542283197They weren't fighting Jews for the sake of ethnically cleansing Jews. They weren't ethnically cleansing Jews pre-1917 so you're lying.
>>542282741>>542282342>>542283203Their problem wasn't Jews existing in Palestine but that the plan " wasn't fair towards Arabs"
>>542283068“The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab conquerors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement. Even in their former habitations, the Arabians did not engage in farming … They did not seek new lands on which to settle their peasantry, which hardly existed. Their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material to rule, to propagate Islam and to collect taxes”David Ben Gurion
>>542283364>>542283265>>542283203Nigger what the fuck does "war of extermination" mean retard?
>>542280091no one cares about that, you moron.the basis for your country is that it got genocided by a bunch of serbs. let's start with that. now, why does B&H exist? what the fuck are you trying to be, huh?
>>542280132The most stupid comparation. By definition God is omniscient, so you can not compare Him with a governor.
>>542283607
>>542283203Pre 1917 they tried to exterminate jews, look up the Safed and Damascus massacres I linked above.The Ottomans stopped them both times.
>>542283607It means one guy said something, probably pissed off at Jews for causing trouble (https://www.palquest.org/en/overallchronology?chronos=139&nid=139). They weren't saying that pre-1917. So why would they randomly decide in 1948 that they just wanted to genocide all Jews?
>>542280215Religion≠race. You fucking stupid libtard.
There's an entire book that details remarkably well as to how Shi'ism is essentially a bastardized Islam centered around Atticized mother goddess avatar worship and is therefore a type of reprobate idolatry not unlike Catholicism, but it's even worse given it incorporates blatantly paganic rituals along the lines of blood offerings via self-flagellation.Fuckin hell that book's disturbingOf course it's written by an Irish lad. He doesn't beat around the bush at all.Just think on that. The degree of subversion in convincing a population 90 million strong of being 'righteous Islamic adherents' when in reality they're all thumping pagans.Same wordsmiths who invented Shi'ism went on to invent several 'hadiths' that then threw a significant majority of Arabs into Alice in Wonderland ritual excess manias, among other things, such as giving opposition parties ground to associate their religion with pejoration.Iranians have been fucking with Islam for hundreds of years now, but today they're seen as 'the saviors' lolIt's probably a deliberate propaganda plan on their part to root the entire religion and its adherents into their world and its contexts, since for an empire, that's control over a lot of people after all.And the more Shias you get, the more pagans you generate. Amazing. Whose really orchestrating this stuff?Arabs were once calling these people heathens, fire worshippers, losers, and laughing as Byzantine was wrecking them, making bets on the coming Persian loss. Now its come to this.
>>542283665>Muslims stopped Muslims from Musliming
>>542283665>DamascusDamascus is in Syria, not Palestine, last time I checked.>looting of Safed"The 1834 looting of Safed Hebrew: ביזת צפת בשנת תקצ"ד (also known as the 1834 Safed pogrom) was a month-long attack on the Jewish community of Safed in the Sidon Eyalet of the Ottoman Empire during the Peasants' revolt in Palestine.""The peasants' revolt in Palestine was a rebellion against Egyptian conscription and taxation policies in Palestine between May and August 1834."
>>542280094Shia is not a whole lot different from other forms of Islam. The main difference is they believe leadership of Islam should have stayed within the prophet Mohammad’s family. It’s not a death cult like retard Protestant and evangelicals say it is. What is a death cult id Wahhabism which the U.S. and Israel ironically both support.
>>542280260>My point is that's never going to happen under muslim rule.As opposed to it happening under Kike rule? Go bring me a soda, waiter.
>>542280217No. Afortunately they are dissapearing. Total Christkek death.
>>542283665>>542284014A peasant revolt is now systematic genocide
>>542283645They are more jewish than those so-called settlers
>>542280091Shiia Islam is the correct one. It is Sunnis who follow people who weren't blood related to Muhammad. People who additionally exterminated Muhammad's family to keep power for themselves.
>>542283789>>542284014You make the muslims look awful by being so unapologetic and playing dumb over violence and explicit calls for exterminationIsrael looking more reasonable every post you make. I wouldnt want to live next to someone like you either.
>>542284461>explicit calls for exterminationIs Netanyahu saying "remember what Amalek has done to you" him calling for the genocide of all Palestinians>playing dumb over violenceI'm not playing dumb. It's just that I'm refuting you for pretending that Arabs attacking in 1948 was because of antisemitism when Arabs weren't exterminating jews previously and you yourself admitted that the ottomans fought to protect jews from pogroms
>>542283203>>542284690https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacreWhat about the ones who lived in Hebron?
>>542284461Why would they attack in 1948? Why wait that long when there were hundreds of thousands of Jews in Palestine years before that?
>>542284459Quran says that blood relationship dont define a person. Being a Prophet relative doesnt makes you a better person than someone who has not relation with him.Chiies are wrong
>>542284734"The massacre was perpetrated by Arabs incited to violence by rumors that Jews were planning to seize control of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.[1] Some of the 435 Jews in Hebron who survived were HIDDEN BY LOCAL ARAB FAMILIES" What was that inherent Arab antisemitism you were talking about?
>>542284690Ottomans still oppressed nonmuslims under a state of dhimmi (apartheid).Even to them, the genocidal behavior of Arab Muslims was insane. Which makes it more ridiculous that you condone thise actions lmao
>>542284734could always just stay in khazaria if they didn't like the middle east
>>542284840>ottomans still oppressedirrelevant>that you condone thise actionsI don't condone them. It's ridiculous that you wanna argue that the 1948 war was caused simply by muslims or arabs being antisemitic
>>542284840The truth is that the Arabs attacked because the 1947 plan wasn't fair to them.
>>542284229>>542284229>>542284229
>>542284804It's not so much about inherent antisemitism as Muslims being violent tribalistic dunecoonsThey built a zuttslut monument on top of the ruins of the Second Temple and chimped out when Jews prayed there>Some of the 435 Jews in Hebron who survived were hidden by local Arab families,[2] although the extent of this phenomenon is debated.[3]There were quite a few Arabs who also fought for the establishment of Israel in 1948
To think the Middle east could be peaceful if not for the genocidal nature if arab muslims. Sad They could have had half the Levant and live in peace if only they werent so hateful and evilThankfully they are getting bombed. Humanity may yet be one day rid of their evil
>>542280091Islam is tool of the jews, iran is based not because of pisslam but because they are their own thing distinct from other mudslim countries.Islam is ground zero of civilization.
>>542280091>t sunni anus licker
>>542285220>>542285242You two can't seriously be saying that you condone the Nakba or Zionist chimping (https://www.palquest.org/en/overallchronology?chronos=139&nid=139), or say that the 1948 war was caused by antisemitism.
>>542285402Notice how all the offensive actions taken by Zionist militias happened after 1929?
>>542285471so?
>THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH WAS GANGRAPED BY A BUNCH OF PAKIS>THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH WAS GANGRAPED BY A BUNCH OF PAKIS>THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH WAS GANGRAPED BY A BUNCH OF PAKIS
>>542285402I just believe that muslims deserve to be treated the way they treat nonmuslimsSimple as
>>542285310How are they any different? They worship the same Messenger of allah that was gangraped by a bunch of Pakis in the dessert.
>>542285589well, I believe that tolerant muslims should be treated how they treat non-muslims, and intolerant muslims should be treated how they treat non-muslims
>>542284786Yeah, but exterminating believers in Allah who were blood related to Muhammad to get into power over whole Islam doesn't make you right and just. So Sunnis are wrong too.
>>542280091Correct version of Islam isn't Sunni or Shia, it's:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quranism
>>542285782That doesnt make relatives of the prophet infallible. Simple as
>>542285718> I believe that tolerant muslims should be treated how they treat non-muslims, and intolerant muslims should be treated how they treat non-muslimsTheir religion explicitly requires treating non-muzzies poorly anon. It doesn’t recognize any potential worldview that might exist but its own. It’s therefore kind of irrelevant how individuals within that collective might behave or believe, it’s incompatible with our own.
>>542280091if you love sand niggers so much then why don't you move to the desertget out of europe and give your land back to the serbs or whoever you stole it from
>>542285990you could say that about every religion. I could say that all Christians and Jews condone the murder of Amalekite children, ordained by God.
>>542285990every religion has horrible shit in it
>>542285990gulf arabs build churches, sikh temples, buddhist temples and hinu temples for their filipino, thai and indian guest workers, also: https://www.abrahamicfamilyhouse.ae/?lang=en
>>542280094>Imagine if there was a sect of Christianity where people invoked the name of John and prayed to John for help.yeah imagine that, that would be CRAZY haha
>>542280092heh you'd have been even more irrelevant
>>542280094>>542287066Yeah, I really clowned myself with that one. haha
>>542280093original shia leaders were persians who wanted to use islam to restore the Sassanid empire but failed and the leadership of that sect went to any groups of arabs, turks, and anyone who hated sunni syrian arabs or levantines in general who had a monopoly on what islam is and isn't
>>542285966>>542285990I win. You two can't justify the Nakba and can't prove why the Arabs were wrong to reject the 1947 plan.
>>542285966>>542285990BTW. The Arabs favored a SINGLE unified state with protected rights for minorities, but Jews wanted separation.
>>542280091A whole country of zutt slutsWhy are browns and kikes so zesty and pedophilic? Something something inbreeding, we are the chosen people
>>542285966>>542285990What's wrong? You got nothing else to say?
>>542285589>>542285990What's wrong? You got nothing else to say?
>>542289264Muhammed is a gay pedophile who worshipped demons
>>542289353fair enough
>>542280091Turn off the VPN, Shlomo Vileberg.
