OpenAI's AI agents solved a 200 year old mathematics problem called the Navier Stokes problem that went centuries unsolved, despite the world' best mathematicians that ever lived taking a crack at it for over a hundred years.There was a $1 million prize for anyone that solved it.
I think OpenAI's proof assumes a smooth, continuous external force acting on the fluid. They didn't solve for the general case. Anyways I don't think poltards will understand any of this so no point in posting here.
Wow that's really cool. Thanks for bringing that to light here first. Got any reddit screengrabs?
>>542326762Fucking I absolutely would not understand it at all.
>>54232660090 years*
They did that by stealing other people's work on the problem. As I keep telling people, anything you do with AI is sent straight to the AI company and is going to be monopolized by them. There is no "adapting" it's explicit purpose is replacing you.
>>542326912If it were as simple as stealing other people's work, then why didn't any person do that to claim the $1m prize?
Wrong, a human using anthropic to assist them uploaded their conversation to openAI to check it, OpenAI stole it, and now pretend they did it themselves.
>>542326600Yeah OpenAI totally did it with its agents, trust the top jew
>>542326841The equation basically describes how fluid moves around.To predict how a fluid will move next second, the equation looks at a tiny piece of fluid and balances four different forces acting on it:The Push (Pressure): Think of squeezing a tube of toothpaste. Fluids always want to move away from where they are being squished (high pressure) toward where they have more room (low pressure).The Thickness (Viscosity): This is internal friction. Water is thin and flows easily; honey is thick and drags against itself. The External Tug (Forcing): This is any outside force pulling or pushing the fluid. Gravity pulling rain down, or a fan blowing air across a room. (This is the "external force" OpenAI used to trigger their math breakdown).The Current (Advection): Fluids carry themselves along. If a gust of wind is already moving fast, it carries its own momentum forward.
>>542326600No it didn't.
>>542326962What people outside of an AI company have thousands of book smart, life dumb college students sending them research 24/7?
>>542326600okay so what does this actually do? Whats the positive effect on our daily life? surely something will happen right?
>>542326762Yeah I don't get it. Can't the machine solve it for the general case? What's the general case?
>>542327059so the two math professor solved it and open ai trained on their data, now steals credit
>>542326600but how does this affect me personally?
who even created the millennium math problems? how does someone create a mathematical formula and leaves it unsolved for centuries?
>>542326600of course a fake robot finished a fake math equation. Wow such wonder and amazement.
>>542327156but they will give you UBI and riches and stuff and you will live like a king. trust them. they wouldn't lie to you
>>542327208fished, not finished
I am still not going to take the next miracle drug/supplement/treatment made with le AI desu
Can someone correct me if i am wrong? but a long of mathematics seems to be riddle math. Absurd hard question that dont actually do anything when answered or proven unanswerable?
>>542326600in this case they stole someone elses work and are now passing it off as their own to make their ai look more valuable to investors, very scummy stuff going on, some dude put 4 years of his life into it for it all to get taken from him.
>>542327059Ah okay. So this is significant because modeling water is very difficult. In a pre AI world a model watering program/algorithm would cost you $5000 a run. With this they basically democratized water modeling programs for science nerds
>>542326962you have to solve the problem to get the prize. Everybody just had incomplete work on it and the AI took the work and finished it.
>>542327183They are pretty much solved, all they need is 100% verification. Like the Riemann hypothesis, everyone assumes it's true because all signs and logic point to it being true, just gotta make 100% sure.
>>542326600>There was a $1 million prize for anyone that solved it.Nice of openAI to earn its own funding.
>>542327285Anon, the formula already existed.
>>542327129No external force. If a fluid can reach infinity purely on its own based on the initial state.Imagine you pour a splash of milk into a cup of black coffee, take the spoon out, and just let it spin on its own. No one is stirring it anymore (zero external force). It is surviving entirely on the energy from that initial pour (the initial state).As you watch the cup, the big swirls of milk automatically start slowing down. The liquid rubs against itself and the edges of the cup (friction/viscosity). That rubbing turns the movement into a tiny bit of heat.Because you aren't stirring it to add new energy, the friction eventually wins. The whirlpools fizzle out, the liquid calms down, and you get a flat, still cup of white coffee. Many mathematicians believe this is what always happens in real life: friction acts like a safety valve, letting the energy leak out safely before the fluid can do anything crazy.The big mathematical question is: Can those whirlpools shrink faster than friction can slow them down? Imagine a scenario where the milk splits into a smaller whirlpool, which spins twice as fast. Then it splits again, spinning four times as fast, then eight times as fast, getting smaller and smaller. If the whirlpool concentrates all its remaining energy into a single, microscopic point, the center of that tiny vortex would theoretically spin at infinite speed.
>>542327183probably a committee and they just look at what problems were being worked on in history that weren't finished yet that also have the most breakthrough when applied to real stuff.
>>542326600They stole the solution like a gypsy steals a bike
>>542327484just give him 1 million and call it a day.
>>542327183I think some of them were taken from Hilbert's 50 problems that he set in 1930
>>542327440Correct. Existed in an unsolved state. That's like deriding Oppenheimer for synthesizing enough uranium and blowing up a big bomb in practice because "gurrr durrrr E=MC^2 existed for 30 years smooth brain"Totally disengenous. You are not a gentleman
>>542327129>>542327442To tie it back to what OpenAI did:The Unforced Version: If you just let the milk spin on its own, can it create that infinite, self-crushing vortex before friction kills it? We still don't know.The Forced Version (What OpenAI Solved): OpenAI proved that if you keep a gentle, perfectly smooth invisible fan blowing on the coffee (a continuous external force), you can carefully steer and feed those shrinking whirlpools so they definitely collapse into an infinite, math-breaking point.
>>542327642>can it create that infinite, self-crushing vortex before friction kills it?Of course it can. That is what black holes are, and possibly what kugelblitzes are.
>>542326600>542326762I think OpenAI's proof assumes a smooth, continuous external force acting on the fluid.>>542327129>What's the general case?Forces that can be turbulent (not smooth.) acting on the fluid. duh!>>542327183>who even created the millennium math problems?Clay Math Institute in 2020 inspired by the German Mathematician David Hilbert(1862-1943)Sauce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_Problems#Overview
Dumb anime poster
>>542327227Sadly UBI probably wont be enough to afford the waifubots (sexbots / maidbots) that would mog foids.
>>542327799When can i get my own neuro? two weeks?
>>542326600 (OP)>>542326762>*I think OpenAI's proof assumes a smooth, continuous external force acting on the fluid.>>542327129>What's the general case?Forces that can be turbulent (not smooth.) acting on the fluid. duh!
>>542326600And what will this 200 year old math problem help us solve?Nothing?Figures.
>>542327129I found thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoU9yt_DylEbasically they tested the equation to see if it can give results incompatible with physical reality, like conservation of energy
>>542327912>When can i get my own neuro? two weeks?perhaps....Two more OpenAI model version upgrades
>>542327900if you not some nepobaby you not getting robowaifus
>>542328012>Two more OpenAI model version upgradesI will wait, but fuck i want it on its own computer.
>>542326600>OpenAI's AI agents solved a 200 year old mathematics problem called the Navier StokesNo it didn't
>>542327970It was originally invented to calculate how much of a whore your grandmother is, but the figure was too large.With the advancement of technology, it is now possible to not only deduce how much of a whore your grandmother was, but also to apply this to your mom.
>>542328028Sadly true.Even if people try to steal.The robowaifu kidnapperswould have to dodge Flock cameras surveillance, run the waifubot locally offline(disconnected from internet cloud hivemind) or crack the fembot's OS/firmware like a l33t hacker.Too much hassle
>>542326600The model that they used is the future GPT-7, by the way.Artificial Superintelligence by 2027.
>>542328244>man puts research into ChatGPT>ChatGPT steals research>WHOAH! CHATGPT SOLVED THE THING!
>>542328069>on its own computer.Hopefully China (DeepSeek,etc) will release equally powerful yet opensource alternatives that run locally.
>>542328311Prove that it stole his research. I'll wait.
>>542328341They have already admitted that it used his research to train their model.
>>542328370link?
>>542328383Check the archives, there were 3 threads on it earlier yesterday, one of them got like 500 replies.
>>542328403>hurr durr look it upSo it didn't happen. Got it.
>>542328430this isn't leddit, nigger faggot
>>542328244>>542328069>>542328028>>542328341We need robowaifus and daughterfus !
>>542326600>SolvedYou mean for their constricted case?Yeah.I don't think they get the Millie off that.
>>542327912If you're rich, whenever you want. If not, never.
>>542326600that will buy 1 5090
>>542328449AI Derangement Syndrome>>542328466Based. I need my robowaifu to femdom me.
Fairly sure it was plagiarised just like everything else.AI had the resources to run the calculator a hundred million times on the fluid modelling but that was just what was stopping mathematicians basically guessing over and over. And already a leading mathematician who worked with open AI claims his logs were simply stolen. These programs have no other mode of operation but theft, it's just a question of whether you can identify who they robbed. As the subjects become more neiche the victim becomes more identifiable until you ask a question like "make Cinderella do a back flip" and the problem just directly steals the Disney IP
>>542327442That's awesome. Thank you so much for taking the time>>542327642>>542327799>>542327935>>542327980Thank you, frens.
>>542328311Wait. Let's say it's true, and the AI really did read the man's research. But. AI doesn't have initiative. So, in order to know if the AI knows the answer, someone must ask about it first. If it was just a random dude, it would likely be the dude himself who announced the news.The problem is, it was OpenAi.So, either someone from the company just happened to randomly ask AI if it can solve the task. Or (which imo seems more likely) the AI analyses ALL its data for valuable information and notifies the company if it's found. The solving of the 200 years problem was classified as valuable, so the AI told its owners about it.The question is, what else did they find out this way.
>>542328503Are you retarded or a billionaire?
>>542328680You don't need to be a billionaire to get a $8k sexbot. Get a job.
>>542327594No, I mean it existed such that you could model flow etc. Generating models and simulations will still be as expensive as before btw, because you're modelling a gazillion particles etc.Better hardware will make it cheaper over time though
>>542328503Make (sci-fi) animes real !>>542328680>Are you retarded or a billionaire?We are not Elon Musk>>542329089Cheaper than a truck or a house for sure.For comparison: a good gamer PC costs about $4k nowadays.
>>542328639This is mostly nonsensical, and you do not sound like you have any idea how LLMs work. Look up the whole story for context. They used 10k agents and it took them 88 hours, but the findings have not been verified independently yet, so it could be a whole lot of nothing. Some researchers were already working on the problem and used OpenAI tools in their work. Obviously, their prompts were used in the model training data, so the rumor is that ChatGPT simply used that research to "solve" the problem, which is way more plausible. It simply pieced together and refined details which it already had in its training set.
>>542327442What's the point of this though
>>542326600no it didn't and it's the same as before, just a PR stunt and endless gaslighting that sounds cool to low IQ normalfag subanimals.
>>542326912This. "AI" is just going to be a gigantic library. I understand why the Alexandria Library had to br burned down now
>>542328639You're also hoping with those 1000 ai agents, not 1 of them hallucinated a decimal place. They worked for over 80 hours.AI can be good, but its not that good lol
>>542327113Probably weather forecasting that doesn’t suck
>>542327378>>542326962Academia is dumb; it values only those who finish the problem, not those who worked on it. It would be like building a house with your team and then some literal who shows up at the construction site, lays the last brick, and gets paid for all your work and is praised as a miracle worker who can build a house all by himself because the client is a benighted normalfag. This pattern reflects a form of schizophrenia among normalfags, as they struggle to understand that important inventions and discoveries require immense effort from numerous individuals; instead, they prefer to credit a single person for it.
>>542332403AI is smart enough to spot mistakes now, faggot. We're not talking about cleverbot
>>542326600Didn't they steal a professor's work who was using the model to save time on basic shit?
