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Jews want you to hate medieval times and have poisoned your mind with made up tales and modern tv shows and books like Game of thrones to make you feel like you got it better than the average peasant in the year 800
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its another episode of "NEETs dream of being peasant serfs to own the jews" again
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>>542333303
Jews have always hated the agrarian man
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NEET king reporting, just woke up, taking a shit rn, then I'll probably get out of bed and do some groceries to make myself a nice 8 layer sandwich, I'm looking for a new game to play though so things could be better
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>>542333303
>worked 20 hours a week
lmao yeah maybe post harvest and only if you don't count any of the maintenance or upkeep tasks and only consider stuff you're directly doing for your lord/kind/church as work. You can go live as a serf right now, but you won't because you're too weak. Pussy.
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>>542333992
>post harvest
sad cope, are you imagining medieval farmers had to plow industrial agriculture sized fields like we have today or something? Lol, lmao, fucking braindead retard
They had something more akin to a big vegetable garden growing a variety of crops, some for their own consumption, some to sell or trade as taxation, same with the animals they kept
None of the above takes more than a total of 20 hours of upkeep per week but how would you know, the only thing you've ever grown is that tumor that seems to be cutting off oxygen flow to your tiny brain
>You can go live as a serf right now
you literally cant, retard
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>>542333303
>Stone age hunter
>Dying at 100
Try 30 anon.
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>>542333303
Also
>Serf
>Worked 20 hours a week
Yes but only in the summer. When it was time to harvest you were working dusk til dawn until the work was done. If you fucked up the harvest and let crops rot in the ground due to the arrival of bad weather, you were dead. You weren't surviving the winter.
Also you have to practice archery on Sunday, because if the Lord wants to go to war you're in the army. You don't get to say no. You're basically a conscript for life, who is legally obligated to keep up with training every week and you're just waiting for a war to happen.
>Paid flat tax to his local Lord
Tax was taken before your own food security. So if you had enough for your Lord OR yourself, but not both, you fed the Lord and starved. Also when you die, your best farm animal goes to the Lord. So good luck trying to accumulate any kind of generational wealth.
>Owned his own land
No. Lord owns the land, and you. and the mills you use to grind your grain, and the ovens you use to bake your bread, and you pay tax on those as well.
>Indisputable head of the household
Except the Lord gets to bang your wife on your wedding night if he wants.
>Lived in a high trust society
Within the confines of your village, yes. But there's no safety outside of the village. If you ever leave home, there's no safety, it's basically tiny pockets of law and order surrounded by anarchy. Also if you leave your village the Lord can hunt you down and punish you.
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>>542334128
>sad cope, are you imagining medieval farmers had to plow industrial agriculture sized fields like we have today or something?
Yes. Because they had responsibilities to their lord and tithe to the church. A requirement of being allowed to steward the land is a certain quantity of specific goods every year, whether that be wool, wheat, barley, beans or cabbage. The king has campaigns to fund and the manpower to support them. That means soldiers, soldiers means blacksmiths for weapons and armor. Farriers for the cavalry's horses. Boyers for the archer's bows and arrows. You're talking hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people in one way or another supporting the people who support war efforts and each and every one of them needs to be fed, and they're all to busy working their fingers to the bone on their own trades to be fucking around with their gardens. You have an insanely naive kiked up hollywood conception of how life was historically.
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>>542334232
That was never real. The low age of average life is because of infant mortality and young children dying.

Way back before modern medicine, kids would die off for all kinds of things, whether they didnt have a good immune system or hidden birth defects like heart issues. Now we save them. Now they grow up into 'men'. Ever wonder why the country is shit? Well all those kids that SHOULDNT make it did make it
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>>542334647
>You have an insanely naive kiked up hollywood conception of how life was historically.
you have less daily autonomy than a medieval serf. as long as he got the work done, he was left alone and not micromanaged. planting and harvest seasons occurred once per year. daily maintenance was less time constrained. compare this to your life, where you're likely beheld to a strict 9 to 5 schedule or whatever with intense scrutiny of every action you do or do not take. you're suffering from the arrogance of modernity.
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>>542334128
Yes you can and that's my goal stupid faggot, get land and work here. You will grow your own food nothing more is needed, you dont need more than food
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>>542334647
>repeats high school history curriculum verbatim
>bro you have a kiked hollywood conception of how life was historically!
thanks for the laugh, if I wanted to hear the jewish version of history I could have just asked some LLM though
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>>542334721
>pre 1900s
It was steady, though high
>moving forward
It decrease year over year, but the quality of life has also declined for everyone else. If these people died due to hidden ailments, they couldn't grow into wackos.

I understand how psychopathic this sounds, but its merely an observation, and since we are ruled by psychopaths, I think its fair to give it a look.

Theres a very old thought where healthy body=healthy mind=healthy spirit. Everything stems from the healthy body. Look around at all the unhealthy people today, they dont seem to have healthy minds either, nor spirits.
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>>542333303
>stone age hunter: get murdered in your sleep by a wild animal or another tribe
>feudal serf: watch most of your children die of disease and then join them
>modern wage cuck: trade unprecedented physical security and creature comforts for spiritual bankruptcy
I dunno, sounds like the earth is cursed and there's no way around it this side of the dirt.
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>>542334781
>shifting the goalposts
Yeah fat lot of autonomy you have when you're working in the fields from sun up to sundown and mending shit for another 4 hours by firelight after nightfall. Or you could be an outlaw and poach fish or deer in the king's woods or the king's rivers and see what end finds you there.
>>542334849
Cope and seethe kid. Go out and serf it up if you've got it all figured out. Go squat on some land and plant your little garden. You've grown enough to feed yourself through a year before, right?
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>>542334932
>when you're working in the fields from sun up to sundown
again, planting and harvest seasons occurred once a year.
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>>542334781
they didnt even have netflix back then!!
>>542334795
>I'll just pay my property tax with all these tomatoes I grew!
just looked it up, offgrid living is reasonably doable in poland so i'll give you that but you're delusional if you think it's that doable everywhere
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>>542334972
>planting and harvest seasons occurred once a year
>he thinks they grew a single crop a year with one growth period
Holy fuck. Talk about suffering from the arrogance of modernity.
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>>542333303
Yes. In medieval times you had to pay maximum 20% of taxes (10% to overlord, 10% to church -- the latter being waived if u were poor) in peacetime and buy a full set of armor for wartime (probably 6 months of work, but you had to do it only once in your lifetime, per family).
Compare that to today, when in peacetime you pay 70%+ in taxes, and in wartime ukrainians come with a van and rape you.

Not to mention there were virtually zero whores, fedoras, and street shitters in Europe... while today all women are whores, fedoras are rampant, and street shitters are being imported by the millions.

And don't even get me started on the j*ws...
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>>542333303
>serf
>landownership
Anon I....
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>>542335155
let him cook
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>>542333992
Pretty much all your "maintenance and upkeep tasks" are unpaid labour. Not sure why you would count it for the serf but not the modern guy.
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>>542334932
>gets combative when someone doesnt believe his jewish fiction
absolutely subverted, I'm sorry they did this to you in highschool but you're free to stop believing the jewish lies any time you want my goy
>You've grown enough to feed yourself through a year before, right?
I have, I grew up on a selfsufficient farm retard, not worth the hassle in modern times
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>>542335051
He doesn't know crops like radishes can be planted and harvested multiple times a year
>he doesn't know what thinning and weeding crops is
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>>542335155
they were granted access to land in exchange for their labor-derived crop output (effectively a tax.) today you are granted access to land in exchange for tax remittances.
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>>542335217
nah just dont count
>cleaning your house
>doing groceries
>cooking your food
>repairing some shit in the house
>driving your car to the garage for maintenance
>spending time in traffic bioth ways
>mandatory social gatherings at work
>...
those are all just fun activities for the good wageslaves, like hobbies you have to do to survive, neat!
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>>542335470
>I am afraid to go buy groceries, so I'll just suck more dick and give the extra money to an imported jeet to bring me my groceries after he wipes his shitty hands on them
you will be deported to india
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for a moment >>542335097 I thought you were smart
but I was wrong >>542335711
reading comprehension not your forte mr ESL?
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>>542335295
>access =/= ownership
No different than being granted access to the factory floor to build the product, but you own your tools
Why cant you be truthful
Serfs were slaves, they were deeded with the land, and were not permitted anything without the landowners permission.
Serfs and peasants were not the same
Stop conflating
Tell the truth
As for paleo/neolithic tribal living, skeletal remains do not support the claim of living to 100yrs, far from it
Nobody owned land, but violence was a common tool against other tribes "sharing" the same areas for hunting and gathering



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