>we must unite europe, stronger together!>n-not like this
>>542334335yeah, not like this.
>>542334336german engineering, russian resources and an endless supply of expendable eastern european workers. what more could you ask for?
>>542334337>what more could you ask for?peace on the continent and a normal governmentalso, you're not Danish, Danes (rightfully) hate Russia
>>542334337HIV rates lower than Africa
>>542334335Russians aren't European, they are central asian
>>542334335We don't work with terrorists. Also enjoy the first couple of posts before the zigger 'cord finds this thread and starts spamming it.
>>542334340such a strange thing to say
>>542334335the jew fears this
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Austria should make this a tripartite alliance, for TVTAL REACTIONSorry Poland!
>>542334338unfortunately i am. danes hate whoever our zionist amerimutt public service so who cares?
>>542334346you're a social reject retard loser then, am I right?
>>542334340you're literally a minority in all your cities, why do you get to have a say on "europeanness"?let's stop euro infighting and instead anally rape usa, china and israel
>>542334340If you guys imported Central Asians, not would have this problems with Alis and Hamids right now
>>542334347we are both on 4chan sir
>>542334348>let's stop euro infighting>supports the only country that has invaded a European nation since WW2
>>542334350I'm not a social reject.why do you simp for Russia?you're aware they use migrants to destabilize EU right?and you're aware you can be anti mass immigration and anti-Russia, like your government?
if you guys want Russia to align with Europe you support a coup in Russia, right?
>>542334335Germs are defeated nation, they can't think of their own interests anymore.German "allies" openly attacked german infrastructure, german industry on its death bed with tens of thousands of layoffs, Ursula openly talks about private savings must be forcefully taken from bank accounts and put into military stocks and they still think russia is an enemy lol. I lost all faith into this nation.
>>542334352>you're aware they use migrants to destabilize EU right?Ahahaha, just look at this creature
>>542334340They're some weird inbetween. Definitely not european, but not fully asiatic either.
>>542334355I mog you, and most AfD voters look dysgenic, applies to you too probably.
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>>542334335>RussiaNever. Never ever. There's just no way.
>>542334337that's pretty good
>>542334335the jews fear nothing more
>>542334335Happy and united :DD till mutts blew everything up
>>542334335Bro Sachsen Anhalt is doesn't matter. It's like German Alabama or whatever
>>542334335Playing make belief that you're friends with the terrorist state whose primary objective vis a vis you is to conquer you and subjugate you as a satellite state with a puppet dictator is not even retarded. It's straight up brain-dead. A maniac with a knife is going to kill you and you're going for a hug, because you're too stupidly naive for your own good.
The Pole is right. There is no version of Russia you can trust. Even in the nineties, when it looked like Russia was heading toward democracy, they still violated the borders of neighbours and behaved like an aggressor.
>>542335019>Russia was heading toward democracyAnd democracy is good why?
>>542335087Because it's better than all the alternatives
>>542335087Because power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Human beings cannot handle power, and so to create stability and avoid a top down bribery carousel, you have to disperse power so that no part of society has too much of it.
>>542334335east germany still hasn't recovered
>>542335306>Because power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.>swedish flag>gay cuck shitNot surprising.Universal suffrage, plebiscite, what you subhumans call "democracy" is for insects and slaves.
This sends NATO shills into a pant shitting rage for some reason.
>>542334338>>542334338>peace on the continent and a normal governmentThats what we might get if Britain magically sinks into to the ocean or London is nuked though. And if we stop listening to Britain.
>>542335365Kvetch about my country all you like. My claim holds true.
>>542335579No it doesnt.Your kind is going extinct. So I wouldnt fret much.
>>542335307They still have not stopped rejecting INGSOC. Correct.
>>542335579You are everything thats wrong about my country.
>>542334335Germany should become as neutral as Switzerland. It's the only way Germans can thrive without everyone seething.
>>542334335Thats actually the only viable plan because we dont have any natural resources in Europe, also we would not be a junior partner to Russia like we are with the US so it would be infinitely preferable compared to current system>inb4 you're finnish so you should hate RussiaWe have to live in the current moment not back in the soviet days
>>542335621Saying no is not a counter argument. I accept your concession then.
>>542334335Russia will be a good trading partner to AfD and GermanyWe will get cheap if not free oil because Russia will pay reparations for the Ukraine war and destruction of the European economy.
>>542335685Technically, it isn't your country. You are a new comer here. My family has lived here for as long as they tracked family names. Your opinion means very little to me.
>>542334339That's just fantasy at this point. More realistic goal, raise aids in Africa so Russia looks better.
ah shite again
>>542335693Switzerland isn’t neutral thoThey trade with EU, America, Asia, RussiaAccording to our EU „allies“ this means they’re not neutral.
>>542335019Germany wouldn’t need to “trust” Russia, if it were allowed to be a sovereign nation and could have a real military and nukes. Germans invented rocketry, they would have the most modern and innovative weapons on the planet.It has to fear Russia only because Anglokikes force Germany to be neutered and weak like a bitch.
>>542334335Europe has everything to gain by working with Russia. We need to get along. But also, Putin is retarded for waging this war. Throwing away so many lives. And we are retarded for not trying to end the war, but maintain it, making sure even more people die. Multiple things can be true at the same time.
>>542335783You know less than nothing about me then. Astonishing how you can get it so wrong.
>>542335962Even if true, the rest of Europe would. Germany is not self-sufficient and cannot become self-sufficient (because all resources it needs does not exist within its borders). And if the rest of Europe goes to shit, Germany will go to shit along with it. Reality is not a CIV game, you're not separate from your neighbour.
>>542335693Germany can never be neutral because of its potential to become a regional hegemon, it has to either align with a stronger power or become that regional hegemon itself, this basically explains the previous 800 years of german history. Aligning with Russia is preferable because they wont put troops in Germany and sell cheaper natural resources than other stronger powers due to logistics being easier because of proximity. Countries like Switzerland and Finland can be neutral to a degree for short periods of time because of irrelevance
>>542335963Exactly. We and Putin are both being retarded to each other to Londons and Washingtons gain.
A friendship with China is more beneficial. Just saying.
>>542336212Europe and China are competing factories.China only wins with the European factory having expensive energy.And isolating Russia as a Chinese-exclusive energy broker.
Drushba!Seethe' Cope', Dilatiere
>>542336115No civilization has been self-sufficient, trade has always existed. Bronze age empires never had enough tin without their borders.A nuclear Germany and a nuclear Russia would form an equilibrium via MAD, and there would be no reason or benefit for one to aggress the other, allowing trade to flow between them. Trade works both ways; Russia will become "reliant" on the inward flow of German investment.Little toy countries will have to choose whose sphere of influence and umbrella to sit under, as they have for all history.
>>542334337>german engineering, russian resourcesThis is exactly why this can never work. Russians will always know that their part in this relationship would be, as you said, resource provider. But since Russians live in a prison society, they will automatically think >Wait, they dont actually need us. Only our resources. They will kill us and take themBecause the concept of peaceful cooperation is unfathomable to them. So they will chimp out even after 40+ years of peaceful trade and a mutual beneficial arrangement. Always. Because in their paranoid mind, they are worthless. Kind of funny how they are basically digging their own grave.I sometimes wonder if they are cursed or sth.
>>542336289> mofos brain on geopolitics lmao.
>>542336212Nah link Europe, Russia and China up in the same trade zone and tell London and Washington to go fuck themselves.
>>542335963This, all that needs to be done is accept the proxy war is a defeat, make a new security architecture, normalize relations and start the process of removing NATO. The other alternative is to try our best to destroy a country that has thousands of nuclear weapons and see prices soar in perpetuity because fuel is more expensive