>Retarded nigger on fentanyl overdoses during arrestHundreds of consecutive days of riots>White man gets brutally murdered for his political beliefsHaha meme xD
>>542335072>>542324010>>542324019>>542324027>>542324035
>>542335072Didnt he also die of fentanyl?
>>542335245No. He was shot by a tranny-fucking leftist like the average Canadian that isn't from New Delhi or Shanghai.
>>542335245George Floyd had a lethal dose of drugs in his system and said he couldn't breathe before he was being restrained. No amount of communism will erase that fact.
>>542335072>You lost trann-ACK!
>>542335493>admits "tranny" offends himLol
choose your sideBad buys:RapistsPedophilesTranniesBad Jews (anti-white)Anti-Christian muslimsGood guys:Traditional family valuesWhite & White-HispanicsThe good Jews High IQ peopleetc
I don't care that some zog mouthpiece or nigger died.
>>5423350721. He was a Jew not white2. He was a Zionist Gaza genocide supporter. If we’re going by retarded pro western logic. Adolf Eichman was executed after WW2 for doing propaganda for the Germans. Using logic of the extremely virtuous and good western civilization then Charlie kirk should be executed for his pro Israel genocide propaganda being spread to millions of people
>>542335072Well, technically way more died for Kirk, we're just smart enough not to destroy our own countries, cities and people.
>>542335435>someone is dying>better restrain himI hope your entire family is shot by a zogbot
Charlie Kirk was a notorious gang member so his death doesn’t really count. He was in deep with the Jewish mafia
>>542336598>2. He was a Zionist Gaza genocide supporter.Needless to say you pulled that out of your buttocks. In fact chudcels speculate he was assassinated by Israel for not giving the right support, breaking some contract, a Faustian Bargain of sorts.But someone has to break a lance for our brothers and sisters in Israel. Just because Jews win the arm wrestling... doesn't mean Hamas is innocent. Hamas just lacks the capacity to do what Israel does to Gaza, not the intention. Maybe don't call out for the destruction of Israel if you don't like war-like conditions.
>>542335326>leftistHe was shot by a right-wing conservative Nick Fuentes groyper who, like many others of his kind, was in love with a tranny.
>>542337470I like how Israelis have to say “just ignore the literal holocaust we are doing right now and just imagine what Palestinians might hypothetically do in a nonexistent scenario”
>>542335072America has changed. We laugh about both nowadays.
>>542335072Jewish networks orchestrated both, dumbass.
>>542335072All israelis must kill themselves. Starting with you.
>>542336333The woman on the left also got a million bucks.
>>542335072Conservatives are retarded and lazy. Their leaders have been con artists and shock jocks for decades at this point.
>>542336682he was a criminal who had just spent his last moments struggling to not be put in a cop car
>>542335072You "for his political beliefs" or "simply a different opinion" people never seem to elaborate on what those are
>>542338937>if you express opinions I don't like then I get to kill youNot how it works in a free country. Why you want so desperately to be an oppressed slave is beyond me.
Because Israel is our greatest ally and whoever blesses Israel will be blessed and whoever curses Israel will be cursed.
>>542338614But it's not hypotheticalhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/06Dy1SFPsfk?feature=shareThey openly specify that their goal is, if they can, destroy Israel. They refused peaceful solutions offered in the past, upon establishing a democracy, extremist regimes immediately rise to power.
>>542340044Which side is doing a holocaust right now? Israel supporters are soulless demons
>>5423350721 year of Charlie being stable
>>542338733yes but she's hot
>>542335072His wife ruined it with the WrestleMania entrances
>>542338733>>542336333Nice double digit of same suit. The question is... did the bitch who killed her kids actually receive a million dollars? Im pretty sure thats just a meme right? Where is the proof?
>>542335072>USAID money gets cutNo more protests anymore
It's because the nation is fighting an infection. Most of our institutions are selectively controlled for race idolaters and soft communists. The long march never stopped, so a category 5 chimpout for "racial reckoning" is not only tolerated, but celebrated. In contrast, an avoidable 6 hour riot at the foot of the seat of power is deemed the next Pearl Harbor. Killing someone over legal political speech is considered another humiliation. The reason for this is that despite any gains in the public forum, Kirk's tribe is on the back foot and the majority of academics and the political intelligencia is still in favor of paving over America for something closer to feudalism.
>>542335072Fentyl Floyd died begging a cop for help for 8 minutes on camera and the cop faced no consequences until after the unrest.Kirk was a political operative, a podcasting shock jock who ran the "people who oppose us are demons" TPUSA. A millionaire paid by oil billionaires to shift conversations away from oil. He didn't deserve to be killed for any of this but there's the difference.
>>542336598>He was a Gaza genocide supporter>He supported bloods killing crips nigga!Ok why is that relevant? I don't hate jews for killing muslims. I hate them for other reasons. Anybody who cries about gaza is a fucking tard. The only good thing jews do is deal with the zuttsluts. All the rest is cancer.
>>542340508So you are saying FLoyd deserved to die but kirk didnt?
>>542340508>No consequences>Railroaded into a modern day lynchingI don't need to defend Chauvin as a saint, but this is quite the take. Have you considered Canadian healthcare?
>>542339061>if you express opinions I don't like then I get to kill youSeems like the shooter and charlie agreed that some gun deaths were ok for the 2nd amendment
>>542340602Probably but why would my opinion on that matter to the topic?>>542340699>until after the unrest
>>542336682>flops around like a fishStandard procedure to stop them from hurting themselves.
>>542335072>the State (possibly) kills black guy, normies upsetvs.>podcaster is killed by another conservative who surrenders himself to the police and legal proceedings beginWhat else do you expect to come from the latter situation?
>>542335072You're not describing Americans, you're describing satanic leftist demons.
>>542340773Yeah hard to not see the irony in this with his talking points on that.>Public executions! Bring your kids!>People getting blasted is just the cost of the 2A>These people I dislike honestly don't deserve lifeThe notion that was pushed after he ragdolled that he was some middle of the road man just seeking honest and kind debates and agreements with people is hilarious, he was none of that.
>>542340234Dead as fuck is a stable state.
>>542335072Why are niggers are stupid as you allowed to post here?
>>542340943I find it fascinating how libs will furiously matrubate over Kirk's killing and then try to foist responsibility onto a "conservative" Tyler Robisnon. Can you at least own your bloodlust? I could respect that more, but instead I see moral cowardice. The left should at the bare minimum claim their kill as a moral stance.
>>542335072The riots are funny though because it's just a bunch of minorities and leftists burning down their own neighborhoods while corporations cheer them on
>>542335072They both became memes though. One just gets a bigger pop
>>542341255You look kind of stupid when you try to claim that anyone who murders someone must be a liberal.
>>542341255It's because Tyler Robinson came from a based 2A supporting conservative family. He isn't some seething antifa, he's a psycho trying to impress someone or maybe genuinely feels like this is the tyranny the 2A was for. Like the guy who shot Reagan was just trying to impress an actress, he's mentally unstable and wasn't making a grand political stance.It's closer to someone insulting your femboy waifu and killing them to defend their honor.
>>542341527or Israel did it.
>>542341040He was a street performer making "Libs OWNED with FACTS and LOGIC" content for boomers and young men with too much time on the internet, not some great bridge of dialogue.
Like I said, Cowardice. Insistence on trying to separate the action from your own political desire. Just claim the kill, stop trying to insinuate that you didn't want it to shake out this way.>>542340367To answer your questions, it has not been confirmed that Clancey recieved a dime, but the gofundme still stands against its own terms of service to not fundraise for crimes against children.>>542340602Yes, Floyd was operating on borrowed time and I doubt his continued existence would have benefited anyone. His death forced taxpayers to fork over millions to his estranged bastard children. Nobody "deserves" to die, but I'm not going to entertain the notion that his cracked-up ass was worth more than Kirk's>>542341467Not addressing my point. If you jerk yourself off to the death of a political figure, at least own it.
>>542341808This. He was clearly partisan, he ran TPUSA and at his memorial Vance called him their political operative. This white washing him as some neutral, curious centrist who just wanted to talk is absurd. Why would anyone believe that? Why would anyone try?
>>542335072Charlie Kike was a douche and had it coming. All right wing talking heads are reviled. Nobody does anything when they're took out except celebrate.
>>542335072Mossad killed him
>>542341255?No one's jerking offTyler will get a lethal injection and the world moves onWhat are you bitching about
>>542335072He was downplaying the number of mass shootings in America by blaming it on "gang violence" i.e black people and then with perfect comedic timing a white man shot him in the neck. It was a funny way for someone to die.
>>542335072I don't care about race traitors who profited from shilling zionism. Go ask cuckservatives why they're such pussies idk
>>542342407so much this. they could not have picked a worse martyr. The jews have lost something. They used to be much smarter than this. I guess thats a good thing.
CHARLIE KIRK IS A FAGGOT
>>542342178Being a douche means you get to get murdered? Also who defines the douche
>>542340367The fundraiser is specifically in her parents' names who picked up and moved closer to the location of the trial, jail, w/e
>>542335072Kirk was killed by his own people for a start
>>542336333>Woke 1 was about grooming kids>Woke 2.0 is about killing themThey are escalating.......
>>542335072I was not much of a fan of Charlie because he was a ZOGbot but I must say that I have never been as emotionally disturbed in my entire life as I was the day he was killed. I had this weird brain fog for probably two days
>>542335072>Retarded nigger on fentanyl overdoses during arrestThat's been repeatedly proven false- but you knew that, didn't you?>>White man gets brutally murdered for his political beliefsChickens coming home to roost.
>>542343300It did feel unreal. Like it's one thing for it to happen away from an event, but he was sitting there doing the same routine debate broing college students and then we saw him get fatally shot. It's traumatic.
>>542343305>-Dude thinks he's a scripted marvel character
>>542338417Hahahahahahahahaha
>>542343305>proven false Y'know just saying it over and over isn't proof, right? Nevermind. You fucktards can't define a woman anymore.
>>542335072National feelings hurt day.
>>542337470During a pro-sodomy tirade, he laughed about how they can't throw fags off of buildings in Gaza because "there aren't any left".He was ghoul, and it's only fitting that he became the most mocked corpse in the history.And, Hamas is objectively innocent. Not gentiles are capable of engaging in the savagery of jews, but, much like the Holocaust should have happened, they'd be justified in doing everything the kikes accused them of - and then some.
>>542335072I know this is /pol/ and trying to have a serious conversation that doesn't devolve into calling each other trannies is a fool's errand, but I'll give it to you straight as a kirkmas present.Watching a man slowly die wailing under the boot of a cop for 9 unbroken minutes was less about the man himself and more about the decades-long boiling merited resentment toward police in the United States. If it wasn't him, it would've been somebody else. Charlie Kirk became a meme instead of a martyr because he basically got hoisted on his own petard on a near-cosmic level. A man who declared dead school children a worthy trade for maximalist 2A rights, who advocated for public executions in front of children, who himself expressed ghoulish glee at political violence, who spent the final years of his tragically short life as a state propagandist was shot in a school, executed in front of his children (allegedly), and his death became a joke, often by leftist quoting his own words. The administration his served as a propagandist for rewarded his service by making his memorial self-serving theater. His legacy has been completely devastated at every angle and it wasn't even just the doing of sinister leftists. A multi-layered tragic farce written by God himself.
>>542345362I appreciate the thought out response, and I don't actually see fault in the reasoning, even if I think that the characterization of the details of both individuals are warped. There is an overabundance of prescriptive attribution, but I do thank you for answering OPs question and giving an honest answer.
>>542345362This with an added Kirk was so edgy it wasn't possible for normal people to treat him as a neutral freedom of speech martyr. The guy who killed him wasn't affiliated with a militant group, there's no manifesto or call to action. Also the climate of conspiracy he operated in and Erika Kirk's control over TPUSA as part of her grieving performance made it weird to support.
>>542336682>If some mongoloid who just stuffed a bag of fent up his ass is dying you have to let him run off and die in an alley somewhere rather then holding him in place and hoping the ambulance gets to you in time.I hope you get everything you ever asked for
One group has jobs. The other group was formerly paid by kikels via USAIDs
>>542346657>This with an added Kirk was so edgy it wasn't possible for normal people to treat him as a neutral freedom of speech martyr.I saw this happen in realtime with my dad. He didn't know who Charlie Kirk was until he died and he was just vaguely aware some young christian republican personality was murdered in the middle of a debate and was naturally predisposed to being sympathetic to Charlie Kirk. Then during Thanksgiving, my brother and I were visiting our parents and my brother was watching a compilation of Charlie's edgier takes to which my dad stormed in going "What the hell is this crap you're listening to!" It's no wonder that the attempt to martyrize him as a good-natured free speech warrior floundered since it's incredibly easy to find clips of him saying takes that would make a suburban center-conservative balk. Not that it meant he deserved to die, but if your takeaway from Charlie Kirk's death was horror at how irreverent internet people can be about someone dying, grappling with that requires acknowledging that Charlie Kirk himself was part of the ecosystem, which brings be back to the hoisted on his own petard thing.
>>542346446I'm glad you're reasonable. It's weird how quickly people get over reductive with things like this to be uncharitable or form an attack rather than viewing the substance and context.How is it warped to you? Do you see Floyd as deserving of dying under a cop for 8 minutes of minutes as he begs for help so the fact that it was a prolonged thing with cops watching is just something that's okay to happen without consequence?Do you see Kirk as a neutral free speech guy who wasn't aiming to offend anyone, just talk and come to an understanding and some leftie hated that?
>>542336333>good jewsAnnnnd.... fedpost.
>>542347640>Do you see Floyd as deserving of dyingYes
But Charlie also overdosed on Fent? One of the well-known side effects is your neck exploding.
>>542335072>Romania flag 1 pbtid
>>542345362>the cops didn't hop in a time machine to stop Floyd from shoving a fatal dose of fent up his ass so making Floyd a literal saint and endless looting and pillaging is justified>I heard some sound bites of things Kirk said taken entirely out of context so murdering my political detractors is okayThe real reason is that leftists operate entirely on the friend/enemy distinction. Literally all that matters to them in any scenario is "who is or isn't on my team". Facts are totally irrelevant and principles are sticks to hit your enemies with. We're all just stuck in a holding pattern waiting for the right to get with the program and start running by the same rules.I am however, willing to conceed that Tyler's comedic timing on when to shot kirk was impressive though.
>>542335072Charlie ACK
>>542335072People have more sympathy for the common man than they do a talking head for jewish organizations
>>542347640Someone "deserving to die" is a framework that I don't generally accept because it attaches a value assessment to life. It's like saying a fly deserves to die because the spider is more valuable.>Did Floyd deserve to die?No, but he died as a reasonable extension of his actions and lifestyle as a drug addict and repeat felon. The characterization of Chauvin's Minnesota-standard knee-hold as malicious was a media narrative that caught hold and condemned him.>Do you see Kirk as a neutral free speech guy?No, and I think that the framing of these questions betrays where they are coming from, but I'll answer anyways. The expectation is that we can tolerate edgy and even incendiary political discourse, and he was shot when he was doing one of his "ask and answer" sessions, which is a clear social contract violation. The response is to prescribe morality to his stances, and saying he deserved to die. This is like saying a woman deserves to be raped because she dressed like she was asking for it. The death is a tragedy, the response is indicative of a skewed moral priority.
>>542336682If floyd wouldn't have been arrested at all, he still wouldn't died.
>>542335072Most burgers are mentally ill and don't even know it, decades of kike glow niggers programs.
>>542348720>"deserving to die" is a frameworkYou sound as retarded as he does
>>542348949Yes I dindu nuthin
>>542335072One is symbolic for USA's police violence against blacks, the other was a guy defending gun violence and being racist getting shot by a crazy which might be emblematic och how polarized and crazy USA is getting but not really a powderkeg.
>>542336682honkies do be like that
>>542335245He got Mossad'd
George Floyd was killed by the state in a time of heightened sensitivity to said state power against minorities.Nobody, even on the right, gave a fuck about CK because he was just a grifter. He died to his own ideology of hatred, low IQ religious dogma, and hucksterism.Not very complicated.I hope this helps.
>>542335072https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOWeWL4RhbI
>>542335072>>White man gets brutally murdered for his political beliefsHe had no ideas of his own. He was a propagandist who repackaged fascism into little slogans and memes to entrap the feeble minded.His "debates" consisted mostly of talking over his opponent until they gave up and walked away.He was a petty, violent little man who reaped what he sowed.
>>542348949>contributes nothing to an honest interactionI am, however, willing to call out morally and intellectually bankrupt subhuman filth like yourself. Go drown yourself in a septic tank.
We lost the war.
>>542335072gypsy, why would we follow in the footsteps of cain, and murder our fellow americans?only the children of cain (jews/masons) would encourage the killing of our own peopleare you a jew?
>>542346446Of course, there will always be bias in perception, but OP asked why (ostensibly lefty) Americans rioted over Floyd's death but laughed about Kirk's, so naturally I had to answer with the lefty perspective.
>>542335072Democrats are awful people. Criminals, degenerates and such. That's your answer.
>>542346657Nigger you post here you're already 10x edgier than he ever was. But yeah, he probably would have laughed at memes about his own death, if it wasn't for the fact he left kids behind.
>>542343102Me. I should be allowed to kill people who annoy me and anyone who claims otherwise is poisoned by Enlightenment "thinkers".
>>542348720I get that. You're saying your issues her are how you feel the media frames these deaths rather than individual responses and readings about these two deaths. Floyd's death is seen as something to protest over because of the police involvement and the lack of consequence to something that seems like 8 minutes of negligent homicide.The social contract thing with Kirk is an interesting feeling to bring in because it's minor compared to everything else in play. It's like the breach of social contract when someone cheats or steals from you, it's there but hardly worth mentioning. The problem is that not many people are saying he deserved to die and if they are, it goes beyond the concept of just wanting to talk. I'm not saying political operatives deserve to die, but he was a political operative, not just some random curious guy who wanted to talk.
>>542345362Pretty sure even if he knew he was dying and you asked him if he still believed in 2A he would have agreed. And so would I. Or at least before Americans let 30 million jeets into the country and did nothing. But in principle, if I get killed by an AR15 I would still believe in civilians owning them. Also he was debating about trannies commiting violence, by some fag who said trannies don't commit much violence, only to get shot by a trannyfucker right in front of him. He won his final debate in the most hardcore way possible. I know he was a ZOGbot and I know you're playing devil's advocate but I just wanted to add that.
>>542348277You misunderstand. Lefties don't see Charlie as having been "punished for the wrong opinions" or whatever, they see it as a force of nature or comeuppance from hubris. If Kirk had been stabbed to death in his home, it wouldn't have been memed like it was. If he was just some guy and not a state propagandist, it would've been a little more tragic. But instead a guy famously cavalier about school shootings was shot in a school in the middle of a debate about school shootings and the administration he died shilling for couldn't help memorialize him in Trump's iconically gaudy and self-centered style. His death, the manner in which it happened, and the right's reaction to it, was an indictment of everything he stood for and the left finds that very, very funny.
>>542335072>implying fentanyl floyd isn't a memeSome of the best memea from this decade have come from that psyop. Personally, I didn't even hear about these so called riots until the Rittenhouse incident, I was too busy treasure hunting and pvping in RDO, and I was paying attention to the Wuhan flu. Similarly I didn't learn of kirks death until the day after and me first reaction was mild shock followed by indifference because he always seemed like a milquetoast libertarian and philosemite. The last clip of him I saw before his death he was arguing that a christian pajeet society would be superior to an atheist white society...https://xcancel.com/AFpost/status/1896057913409749346#m But to your main point, doesn't this prove that "the left" can't win a civil debate, and have to resort to violence to get their way. Which goes to show how they would act if they manage to abolish the US government and instate communism. And the track record of communism throughout history also supports that point. Also >1pbtid
>>542348720The point is more that Floyd was the tipping point. People already hated the police, his death just managed to catch momentum and push people over the edge to do something about it. No reasonable person considers Floyd a good person, but he still didn't deserve what happened to him.Kirk's death is irony incarnate. If he'd been stabbed by a brown person he wouldn't have even been a footnote and no leftist would give a shit.
>>542350082trvke
>>542340508>"people who oppose us are demons"Yeah, you are demons. How you reacted proved the point. Now nobody wants to debate you or win you over, nobody wants to convince you of their point or compare beliefs. Now they just want you dead, because that's what you taught them to do.So good job, you've changed your opponents minds and turned off any empathy they might've had. I sincerely hope you end up in a mass grave, I won't shed a tear or lose a wink of sleep over it either.
>>542345362>Watching a man slowly die wailing under the boot of a cop for 9 unbroken minutes was less about the man himself and more about the decades-long boiling merited resentment toward police in the United States.Floyd was just another black guy who died while breaking the law. The outrage was driven by blacks and leftists mental anguish at being unable to reconcile while minorities keep doing stupid shit and getting punished for it.Kirk was just a guy that was killed for advocating for conservatism, which included treating freedom like a double-edged sword.His legacy isn't fireworks at his funeral or a bunch of dysgenic freaks making haha funny memes on tiktok, but moderate conservatives realizing that the Left actually wants them dead. Not rhetorically dead, but shot in the neck in front of your kids dead, and that they should be prepared to act accordingly.
>>542350215>No reasonable person considers Floyd a good person, but he still didn't deserve what happened to him.What would you do if someone was pointing a gun at your pregnant wife's stomach? Just curious.
>>542349950You are singlehandedly giving me hope for this armpit of a website.I do think it's worth mentioning. Interactions like battery, murder, fraud, theft and arson are tangibly detrimental, and this was also how the Floyd rioters responded to his death. They don't see this as wrong if given the appropriate cause.However, when Kirk was murdered, it was an extra-legal killing. There was no violent response from the right because their moral basis remained that extra legal murder, battery and arson was still wrong regardless of the cause.Speech cannot be a sufficient crime on its own and intolerance or racism are not objective factors, just subjective observations. Racism doesn't exist until someone goes looking for it. The consequences of fraud, theft and violence are very real, though.I also don't buy that the words of a "political operative" is enough to condemn them, regardless of how famous they were. Speech only has as much power as those that listen to it can provide, so it wasn't his speech that was the only casualty, it extends to everyone who was willing to see if his talking points had merit.
>>542350726That's irrelevant. It's not a cop's job to have omniscient visions of whether someone is a good person or not and then kill them if they aren't.What would you do if a black cop intentionally let your brother bleed to death by refusing to call an ambulance after a drunk driving accident because he assumed he was a racist?
>>542350452I get the optics thing, but the majority of the left condemned the killing of Kirk. The fridge edgy accounts made jokes because he was a public figure who was an edgy shock jock himself. The government elevated him like no one else (seriously, who had a memorial that compares?) and outright said he was their political operative. Edgy jokes about that are nothing compared to the TND type "jokes" that happen here every day.
>>542350621>You libshits don't know what you did... the storm is coming this time, I swear...!Yeah nah. It's been a year. Conservatives either got bored of pretending they gave a shit about a professional troll or went down the conspiracy hole that ACTUALLY it was ISRAEL! It's genuinely funny how little notoriety Kirk's shooter actually got and indicative of the brainrot that has embedded itself in modern conservatism. The most they had was "He might've fucked a tranny once you guys! That's practically a tranny!" but couldn't resist that sweet, sweet Israel conspiracy. The left barely even acknowledges Robinson. He wasn't turned into a folk hero like Luigi. He will probably get the full force of the law the state of Utah allows and nobody will care. Only We Are Charlie Kirk will remain.
>>542351024>What would you do if a black cop intentionally let your brother bleed to death by refusing to call an ambulance after a drunk driving accident because he assumed he was a racist?As White men we’re routinely left out of society, overlooked, ignored, blamed, excluded and demonized as hopelessly evil. What you describe happens so often it isn’t even considered noteworthy or newsworthy, it’s just “what happens”. You appeal to some notion of fairness when it doesn’t even occur to you White man hating shitskins that we’ve never experienced fairness like that in our lives. Most of us have mothers who hate us because they were psyopped to hate White men, just like you’ve been from birth as well.
>>542335072It's a Judaic Negro society. Those two (and the fusion especially) are the Elite caste of America. The Brahmins of America are Jewish Negros if you indulge my Traditional Speech.
>>542350621No it really is haha funny memes on tiktok. His legacy for people under 21 is featuring in diddy epstein shitposts. Nobody is taking the "You just woke up the flame inside every conservative. We will not tolerate you anymore as we march as you killed the one man who reached out" gimmick seriously. Like dude that was already outdated A MONTH AFTER HE DIED because nothing came of it and people are doing kirkiversary dances and not getting doxxed for it
>>542350726I think a reasonable person would kill them. Not because he deserved to die but because it is the best way to protect your pregnant wife. I think the framing of >>542350215 is flawed, though, because I doubt Chauvin consciously decided that Floyd had to die for some value judgement. I think that an argument could be made that Floyd should have been detained or worse if only that he was operating a vehicle with a herculean amount of fentanyl in his system. However, the fiction that took hold that he was specifically killed because he was a black man under detention of the cops. Kirk's killer, by contrast, did make a moral assessment and declared that he needed to die for some greater calling over political first amendment protected speech. These are not equivalent.>>542351025I appreciate anyone on the left who can understand that position and condemn the killing while still disagreeing with the majority of his positions, but to excuse it because of a moral determination is indicative of moral bankruptcy.
>>542351024I'd be pissed. Except George Floyd committed an actual crime. If he'd be shot over it no one would've cared. It was just the spectacle. Also if he'd stopped resisting arrest it wouldn't have happened. If you get shot while resisting arrest, then that's your own fault.
>>542351670If you point a gun at a pregnant woman you deserve to die.
>>542351670>I doubt Chauvin consciously decided that Floyd had to die for some value judgement.>However, the fiction that took hold that he was specifically killed because he was a black man under detention of the cops.I can't believe this conversation has been going on this long and you still think the argument about the relationship of policing and race in America is exclusively white cops seeing a black guy and going "Grr I hate black people! I'm going to kill him!!"
>>542335072Kirk: Gun violence is a black people problem'.Immediately gets shot in the neck by a white man.
>>542350754Thanks.>There was no violent response from the right because their moral basis remained that extra legal murder, battery and arson was still wrong regardless of the cause.That's because we all know it was a murder and that whoever did it shouldn't be protected like a cop doing his job. It's not controversial as what happened with Floyd, why would it be? The right got what it wanted from the anti-antifa government and it's been searching for violent antifa cells even though the guy wasn't part of any large group and working with them.>I also don't buy that the words of a "political operative" is enough to condemn them, regardless of how famous they were.It's not about condemning, it's about putting into context what he was because there is such a push to frame him as a normal guy as if what happened to him could happen to anyone, as if any conservative could be sniped for being what the vice president calls their most powerful propagandist.
>>542335072Fuck that gay kike loving faggot. Rest in piss
>>542350621No, his legacy is "lowkirkenuinely" and his face being spammed into AI models so much by boomers that every single dark-haired white man has their features overwritten by his.
>>542335072Nothing stopped Right-wingers from demonstrating and raising hell. Nothing. There is nothing stopping them. The ONLY response I will receive is:>SHUT UP GLOWIE>WE COULDN'T DO IT CAUSE WE'D GET ARRESTED!>ONLY BLACKS CAN PROTEST!Literally none of it is true. If thousands of right-wingers showed up somewhere and protested there would not be mass arrests. You just tell yourself that because conservatives literally refuse to do anything. All you retards did was make AI songs, AI pictures, Thoughts & Prayers, and then tried to get people fired for making jokes.It is pathetic. Why won't the right every riot? Why won't they demonstrate? There is no pushback ever. Feckless cowards. I am not advocating for violence, but I am advocating for showing up and doing something but that would require getting off the internet. You can make fun of the obese nigger trannies on the left as much as you want, but I see them in the street and I see you on twitter.
>>542335072I made fun of both because I don’t value human life outside of my own.
>>542335072Why are Europcucks like this?
Right-wing people don't inherently want to cause property damage and riot. They have jobs and families that come before them. This is why they keep trying to move away from the problem because America has a lot of space. You will notice that the left really only defends pieces of shit like George Floyd. The defended Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin the same way. This was just an excuse to riot when they were all laid off from work and could wear masks in public while they did it. Leftists love criminals more than good people. They plead for them to get a second chance. A good man that has a bad moment gets the full force of the law. They hate your perfect white family and want you dead. They actually like living with shitskins. They probably are a shitskin. They don't apply logic.
>>542335072I thought Kirk was white.
>>542352293Except the leftist demonstrations actually forced "change" (even if it was mostly placation) out of the most powerful companies and governments in the world. If the right would do even half of that, there would be meaningful change. If there were actual large scale demonstrations about illegal immigration, illegal foreign wars, violation of constitutional rights, etc then maybe lawmakers would at least try to placate you. Instead it is, as you said, run away, run away, run away and just post on twitter about the magical day of the rope or RWDS as the country gets worse. It is just spineless behavior.The last time the right tried something it was the tea party which ultimately resulted in Trump in 2016 which has completely fallen apart as the man has become a stock standard Republican, just with more meme tweets.
>>542352005>it's about putting into context what he was because there is such a push to frame him as a normal guy as if what happened to him could happen to anyone, as if any conservative could be sniped for being what the vice president calls their most powerful propagandist.Is this an unreasonable take-away? Primarily, one of the points of freedom of speech and assembly is to indicate that thoughts or opinions might be shared or reconciled outside of an established "correct" core of beliefs enforced by government. When he was killed and people say "it was coming" or "we should expect it" when he didn't actually do anything criminally tangible, I can only assume we are living with people who believe thought-crime should come with the expectation of death.
>>542335245I assume he was buying his fentanyl from that one African American podcaster that figured out it was the Jews who ODed him.
>>542352079>BOOMkek
>>542352538Every right wing demonstration is equally condemned by the right and the left. The left will support their own. Trump barely pardoned the Jan. 6th people while leftists burned cities and received zero punishment.
>>542351878If that's not what's being alleged, nobody cares what the other version of any alleged "problem" between blacks and cops is. Every other version of that story is some very thin complaint about historical injustice or vague trends, which for some reason is supposed to counteract all the bodycam footage of blacks shrieking like banshees while launching themselves forward with knives at the slightest provocation, or the security camera footage of them randomly attacking people in public in the most nihilistic version of domestic terrorism to ever exist. Nobody legitimately thinks that any extra attention that blacks get from police is undeserved in 2026, I doubt even the blacks really believe it anymore.If you can't show me specific unearned animosity from cops that comes purely from the cop irrationally hating blacks and targeting them for no other reason at all, I don't care what you have to show.
>>542335072Both of them were haha meme xd. I guess you weren't on 4chan in 2020.
>>542352717That isn't even true. Plenty of leftists were arrested for committing crimes during the BLM bullshit. Hell, some of them ended up as "Antifa leaders" when it was classified as a terrorist organization/gang by the Trump admin and were sent to maximum security prisons.The difference is that they still do it. They do it regularly. If there is enough outrage the left shows up and demonstrates until their party is forced to agree. The Republicans are able to shoo away small demonstrations mostly because they're all fucktarded.What have been some big Right wing demonstrations? I mean sincerely, if you have any that come to mind please tell me. The main ones I think of are January 6th (AKA Trump lost and everyone knows he lost including his own admin) and Charlottesville which was co-opted by a SMALL group of white identitarians that the rest of the protest was not able to distance themselves from and resulted in a mass counter demonstration. I also want to point out you're 100% correct: These people on January 6th fell for Trump's bullshit and proceeded to demonstrate for him and the guy wouldn't even parden them because he was afraid of backlash. Really, that should have ended any support Trump had right then and there. "Virtue was not convenient at the time." If he really believes he was robbed and these people were fighting for the sanctity of our democracy he would have had them out, but he didn't because he knew it would look even worse for his reelection campaign than January 6th was in general.
>>542352115Getting 200+ teachers fired accomplished more than any protest. The only thing that could've done more would have been reprisals in kind and in greater magnitude. But to do so would be suicidal and thus would require a suicidal person. Not as many psychos like that on the right. Btw I fully admit that's cope, but it's also true.
>>542352549It's not a free speech issue, though. When it comes to political figures, violence like this is unfortunately expected, it's why security exists. It shouldn't happen, it's wrong when it does, but it is expected on all sides when you're in that line of work.When the right or based centrists talk about how it's okay to kill commies because commies aren't people and talk about giving helicopter rides, there is no "but what about their free speech?" that comes out to defend them because there's situational awareness. Politics is personal and impacts your life, so rhetoric like that is historically expected. Doesn't make it right. Hardly anyone argues it was right to kill Kirk.
>>542353059What are they supposed to protest? A murder? The dude was caught and is going to get the gas. The only way to show strength is reprisal which didn't happen. Again you have to be a suicidal nutcase to do this and right wingers are much less likely to be suicidal nutcases.
>>542335072I miss Charlie, bros.Real America's Voice is doing a nice tribute to him right now on The Charlie Kirk show. They killed him because he was a great man who was building a huge following. God bless you Charlie.
>>542352549This has been explained multiple times in this thread alone that the left's reaction to his death was more context-specific than "I didn't like the words he said." And I think even the rest of the right wing has understood that to that point that the "the left literally wants to murder you in the street, humble conservative!" narrative petered out fairly quickly. At this point, you're just reheating stale nachos.
>>542352731Are you asking me to show an example of a white cop unambiguously trying to kill a black guy for being black in response to my post telling you that's not actually the argument?
>>542353392That's a good point that seems to fly over most people's heads. The State is a territorial monopoly on violence and politics is just arguing about which faction of warlords gets to control it. That being said the helicopter memes stem from Hoppe's quote that "no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists" and thus commies and democrats must be "physical removed" In practice that would look more like RTTL or mass deportations than Pinochet's Chile (which was backed by the CIA and a jewish economist.)
>>542353059Some retard with no life getting arrested on the left doesn't hurt the left. They have millions of losers that have nothing better to do than terrorize the public. Right-wing people have their own crazy people, but they will only ride the wave. Your right-wing male goes to work and assess risk. Charlie Kirk dies and he says "why would I risk my life for a guy that promoted jews and hated the "nazi" right wing?" Leftists at these riots already have records or have no future anyway. Millions of useless brown people will do the dirty work for the leftist cause. The two times you mentioned of right-wing demonstration resulted in the entire federal and state apparatus having a show of force. And what do white cuck people that are conservative adjacent even do? They think Derek Chauvin was still in the wrong. They think entering the capital building and doing almost zero damage is unacceptable after mail-in ballot rigging. Right-wing people will never have support until their families get shot to death and have no power. Right wing people support leftist trash. It is the Christian empathy.
>>542336333>The good Jews
>>542335072Nigger chimps out and dies.Niggers chimp out.Right wing debate bro grofter diesRight grifters make money of his deathSeems like it played out according to the rules.
>>542352538Leftist demonstrations succeed because they're only ever pushing against open doors with the full support of the state and corporations. Every leftist victory always either benefits the state or big business in some capacity, with the thinnest veneer of plausible deniability to keep the waterheads from figuring out they're actually their enemies greatest footsoldiers. It really shows when leftists wander off the plantation periodically and all their funding vanishes over night. Granted that doesn't subtract from your point about the right refusing to do anything ever, but I would argue that it means just adopting the lefts methods full cloth won't return the same results because we won't have full institutional support. The government capitulating to the left rioting and de facto demands to undermine workers protections, doesn't mean the govern is going to do the same when the right riots and demands they stop trampling on the second amendment for example.
>>542343102I believe pussies are best qualified to identify douche. So that pussy you were replying to knows what he's queefing about.
>>542350452If you look at basically all "debates" Charlie Kirk did, you'll see that he wasn't interested in good faith conversations. He might initially say some facts and then derail into "godly miracles" halfway through or other inane things. The "we just wanna debate" narrative is a self righteous circlejerk. You never had any empathy to begin with and you know that btw.
>>542356160>he wasn't interested in good faith conversationsthats the entire chud media too with people like Tim Pool and Dave Rubin. I remember when Destiny debated Alex Jones and Fuentez they refused to be serious because they literally have no facts on their side about anything
>>542353392>>542354154I disagree that it stops being a speech or assembly issue on the basis that Kirk was a public figure and high priority target. It was explicitly because people were willing to hear his stance in a public forum that he was a political figure. The need for security or implied risk does not negate that assumption.Your communist helicopter rides example makes me think we are talking past each other. The term Communist is interchangeable with Nazi or Racist or Pedophile, so it's undergone semantic bleaching. If someone is espousing communist-adjacent positions on policy, punishment or priority, then celebrating their death based solely on that runs into the same issue. Also, we're on this website, so I would assume we can discern between aggressive hyperbole, like "All capitalists deserve the rope" and actual debate.I am assuming that one of the contextual points is his pro-death penalty and pro-public-execution stance, which I disagree with, but executions are not extra-legal assassinations or political violence. I've been doing some quick research on this in case I am mistaken, but I have not found any reference to him supporting political change through violent action. While you say that you don't find many leftists who say it was right to kill him, I'm not seeing that. This moral stance of "I am glad he got killed" and "It was wrong that he was killed in this method" belies a certain dishonesty, contradictory words coming out of both sides of the mouth. If someone believes it was a good thing, then they should also hold by the moral stance that if they were to be in that position, they would pull the trigger themselves.Not to you specifically, but would you be morally grounded in a stance to pull that trigger?
>>542356944im just happy hes dead, migger seethe is priceless, religious grifters are heretics
>>542338733Actually it was a go fund me scam
>>542356944The free speech issue is just a moot point. It's like if someone called someone's mom a whore and then was killed for it, chiming in with "but free speech". If it's the idea of assembly and platforming, then it's like if someone had a concert and started a chant about how your mom's a whore and then you kill them. It's not good, you shouldn't have done that. But the issue isn't a free speech issue. Trying to make it into one while it's just largely agreed that, though it isn't nice to call your mother a whore, it isn't right to kill someone for singing what they want. Trying to spin that as a free speech issue is missing the point of the intention.Like with a mugging, debating property law doesn't make sense. It's not like the person stealing from you doesn't believe in it, they would actually like for the law to protect them. They aren't against it, they aren't making a stance against it or a debate.
>>542335072>White man gets brutally murdered for his political beliefsKirk thought it was "worth it" to have people murdered to protect the 2a. So I'm forced to conclude being murdered in front of his wife and kids was also "worth it"
>>542360327>Kirk thought it was "worth it" to have people murdered to protect the 2a. You are deliberately misquoting him to try to justify murdering people you disagree with.Back to rebbit with you, fag.A person having ideas you find offensive doesn't give you the right to literally kill them.
>>542360453No, it's a direct quote.
