The US is fucking cooked.
>>542342266
>>542342266Moon mission straight to 10%.
>>542342266>noooo bonds are returning to rates from before the financial crisis money printing QE era that fueled the everything bubbleFucking good
>>542342266I dont understand what this means or how it effects me
"Nine, ten, do" planned 9-11
>>542342266This is MAGA.
>>542342343no more free money from US.
>>542342442I wouldn't worry about it. Go post in a Kirk thread.
>>542342266Nothingburger.Every nation on Earth pulling out its physical gold on deposit here is the only news you need.
>>542342266Checked; Nintendo is a shit.
But Donny is an excellent businessman! He could never bankrupt a whole country!Wait a minute...
>>542342266Oil pricevcope spam is apparantly too easy to see through so you resort to more complex products?
>>542342442What is means: This is the price you have to pay to take on new debt. How it affects you: Your entire economy runs on debt, if that debt becomes more expensive so does everything else.
>>542342343This is all your fault.
>>542342266Yeah but the EU is even worse off you fucking idiot kek
rare alphabet Id and doubles get in same thread>Nintendo did 9-11; but only by design
>>542342343yeah, you did it!I saw you do it
And isn’t this still better than everywhere else in the world?Open a history book; this is not the first time the United States has gone through economic turmoil. It will not be the last either. The sky isn’t falling, but it never hurts to be prepared.I’m not going to lie and say that you’re too stupid for not “making moves” and getting rich at these changes. I think it’s best to just work; eventually things will correct.
>>542342707Factually and demonstrably wrong.
>>542342442Dont worry about it lmao. Its fine.
>>542342772I seen it. On the internet
>>542342442End of the U.S. empire. Since end of WWII the U.S. could print dollars out of nothing and just bully the world and force them to use dollars.They racked up 40 trillion in debt and are losing their grip. During this time industry was gutted from USA because of market forces (triffin dilemma) So now there's all this debt being financed at unsustainable rates because the U.S. can't find new buyers, can't enforce rules they created, and is looking at some instability. Now it's only 5% but the interest on the debt is already 1.2 trillion at 5% of 40 it's 2 trillion. The U.S. only gets like 5 trillion in taxes. So the entire experiment is concluding unless something new is invented which they'll try with A.I. or own nothing be happy or whatever shit they try to sell.At the end of the day the sun goes down and then comes back up so just treat it as information and hedge accordinglyDon't believe anyone judge their power and leverage and allocate that percent to them so you don't get washed out trusting Trump or something.
>>542342266This is caused by the end of pension funds. The primary buyers of long term debt were pension funds who didnt care as much about the yields as they cared about a stable predictable check that would pay their pension employees.Now that pensions have vanished so have the people wanting to buy these long bonds cheap. and so they have to raise rates to get other people to buy them.This is a permeant structural change.
>>542342266The stock market is at ATH. AGI is almost here. America is winning. You lost, tranny
>>542343170Interesting study I looked at said gen Z thinks sports betting is a legitimate investment strategy, and then I saw robinhood allows you to bet sports then buy stonks.When a normal life is mathematically impossible on long term bonds it has to end.
>>542342266>>542342442It means you're going to get drafted and sent to colonize Mexico, Cuba, Canada and Greenland.
>>542342266Come on over 5% u can do it!
>>542343122Its not going to end. Its just going to change and enter a new phase. They are gearing up to blame any economic problems on the AI bubble popping and then continuing on. The empire wont end when no one can stand against it. Russia is falling apart despite everything the NATO block the American empire got what it wanted. A degraded Russia for the next 50 years. Ukraine was never meant to survive.Iran is small and though a fuck up wont matter in the long. Hopefully it breaks us apart from Israel a bit though.
>>542343122checked>we did it (I designed 9-11 as my first conscious act as an adult and supreme ruler of the world) !
>>542343344Don't worry, broer. It's a self accelerating process, this is jut the beginning.
>>542342266Nah.
>>542342442Get ready for a $50 bread
>>542343122checkednice to see at least one other person on pol with an iq over 100
>>542343371The absolute state of your retardation this is gonna make the Great Depression look like a cake walk but now without industrial capacity. Without a homogeneous population with groups that want to kill each other . 90% is not self sufficient like in the 30’s. Your just naive
>>542343122The US is just going to do a reset and make the Dollar 2.0. The way they gave up on trying to stop spending guarantees it.
>>542342442do you already own a house? oh you don't? enjoy your 9% mortgage rate coming soon.
The end of web-trading.
>>542342442You know that thread where you kept trolling in claiming you could buy ground beef for $2.99/lb in 2026? You’ll be lucky to find 73/27 for $8/lb come this time next year.
>>542342266I hate Republicans so much it's unreal. They only know lose wars, wreck economy, and lie.
>>542343721The great reset allright the great taking is underway act accordingly
>>542343664Doesnt matter is the US block still holds the whip. The US has spent their time making sure a rival cannot form. China cant exist without the global trade network if it crashes they burn. No one else is even close to being a competitor.The EU was fucked by the Ukraine and pipeline shit. Russia has been degraded by the Ukraine shit as well and no one ever cared about Ukraine's survival. They have the leverage to hold onto power for the next 50 years and after that theve been keeping most of the US raw materials in the ground while everyone else digs theirs up. Africa is a bit of a wild card for resources but that Tony Blair shit is over there trying to keep those countries in the western sphere.
>>542343371>a bitDie in a fire zogshill>>542343721Why would anyone partake in dollar 2.0? The US has almost no leverage compared to where we were 50 years ago. Keep in mind, that’s the exact time we decoupled our currency from any commodity of intrinsic value.
>>542343768Good that will crash housing prices and people will go back to multi generational homes where they save up before buying like the fucking immigrants do.
>>542343721Then capital will leave the markets because Trump rugged the dollar like he rugged his memecoin. There is no dollar 2.0 they don't understand how money works. They're going to try with stablecoins that's interesting, but it's going to upset the entire world. What they're trying to with stablecoins is use technocrats as the enforcers instead foreign central banks.
>>542342266all for israel btw>>542342343say thank you
how does this affect the non billionaires
>>542343846I did that.
>>542344017The US has all the leverage. The EU is firmly under the boot. The continent we are on is in control. They might take Cuba if they feel like it. Africa is a mixed battle ground but Russia has been hobbled. And they were the only one countering the US empire on the global game. China likes to be passive and careful slowly building with low risk.The entire trade and financial network in under US control. How is that BRICs bullshit coming? India is currently being chained to the empire. #1 there has been a bit of election meddling but also all this Indian immigration into the western nations is meant to bind them culturally.
>>542343962Everything you posted is complete nonsense. You sound like those fat morons that go “heh I could beat u all up if I tried even a little bit….”Kill yourself you dysgenic eglinigger
>>542343962> China cant exist without the global trade networkYes thats why they are building the belt and road you guys can’t even build ships anymore and when all that sweet sweet inflation is gonna come back home your overseas adventure time is over for the simple fact you can’t pay for it anymore. Happens to every empire.
>>542342266>The US is fucking cooked.we're all cooked. i hope you bought some BTC.
>>542344202>the entire financial network is under US controlHoly kek the delusion you must be Indian. How did that iron grip work on russniggers when we slapped every sanction on them in addition to SEIZING THEIR ASSETS? Oh wait it didn’t work and now they’re stronger than they were before the war.
>>542342266>debt is becoming expensivethat's only bad if you're in debtI am noteveryone crying about this are loanoid beggarsyou don't have to be this wayearn money, then spend it, not the other way around
>>542344095There is definitely going to be upset but my point is the US still has the boot on the world and there is no real alternative. What you said about the technocrats is interesting though. Tony Blair has been talking about public private partnerships for years with the tech giants. Like they were going to start building bridges and shit for us.
>>542343962>China cant exist without the global trade network if it crashes they burn.Most of China's trade by value is not with the US.
>>542344202> that BRICs bullshit coming?Actually pretty good the BIS is in the procces of deligating special drawing rights for the unit> but also all this Indian immigration into the western nations is meant to bind them culturally.Yes you the ones doing the European genocide on behest of crazy ass supramacist jews we know
>>542344338>there is no real alternativeWhat does the US supply the world that they can’t get from anywhere else?
>>542342442What it means? This is most of how your government finances its expenses. This will likely hit you twofold: They'll try to do stuff to not pay. But if they manage to stay attractive, then the cost of lending (e.g. mortgages or whatever else the pleb might want to do goes UP UP UP)They'll also try to get some of the debt to go away via inflation or taxes...you'll pay for it likely. Or they'll reduce services you thought you could depend on (possibly the best option because well duh spending so much too much isn't good so you never actually had the money you were just trying to push it to future governments or future generations). But the way they usually do THAT is also typically shit.Anyhow as a burger I'd consider being rich and having more assets abroads, eh.
>>542344257Me too can’t wait for the US occupation of westrn Europe is over we can finally do the mass deportations that are needed
>>542342266cooked
>>542344315>digital assets when the rolling blackouts start happeningkek. you guys are just truly fucked.
>>542342442Directly, it affects you because interest on mortgages, student loans and many other loans in the US are based on the 10 year treasury yieldIndirectly, it affects you because the US government will have to pay more in interest on the debt which means the government will have less money remaining for other things
>>542342442It all runs on paying it forward, the energy/fuel being used right now is based on paying it forward: taking a loan today, to spend today, hoping that futures profits will offset interest payed in between spending(now) and parabolically ballooning futures costs on that loan that's being spent now(currently, as in right now today). So since all companies survive on debt: ALL COSTS WILL INCREASE 1:1 WITH INTEREST RATES INCREASE, BARE MINIMUM. unless you were a company that survives without relying on debt(basically unheard of but totally exists on small insignificant levels).Bacially if refineries need debt to function: your gas will go up with interest rate, and since petroleum is used transport ALL goods: all goods go up in price just from energy costs increasing ALONE. But it's gonna be a lot worst than that annoyance right there.
>>542342901Now price in oil memeflaggot. Tomorrow I’ll pay 9$ per US gallon of diesel. Shit’s fucked. AANYTHING FOR ISRAEL MY FELLOW GOYS!!
>>542344553>unless you were a company that survives without relying on debt(basically unheard of but totally exists on small insignificant levels).actually until recently that wasn't quite true.many of the biggest companies from the tech sector had actually LOTS of money. they were so flush with cash. they spent it independently of the covid/tariff/other stuff that caused other companies to lend money - on the AI boom. which isn't really profitable so far.
>>542344503>*unzips usb*Does your establishment accept p2p cold storage digital currency SAR?
>>542344151You might get eatenWork on your cardio
>>542344026i do agree with this. as a cash chad I'm ready to buy some rental real estate.
>>542342266I have seen this shit explained in other threads but I still dont get, it is more complicated than pendulum summoning. Someone break it down for me as if I were a young child or a golden retriever please
>>542342266fr no cap ong
>>542342266The Genius Act 2025 requires any crypto exchange providing USD based stablecoins to back it with US treasury bonds. Currently that’s organically happening at around 200 billion. It’s believed it could grow to 2 trillion by 2030. These stablecoins aren’t controlled or created by the US government directly and allow for reserve status.The Chinese system is digital e-yuan backed by a gold and the amount of currency that’s produced is regulated by the Chinese government. The new changes with the US system are unregulated decentralized production of USD tokenized currency by exchanges that’s not controlled by the government and exported on crypto rails that back USD stablecoins with treasuries. Foreign businesses and citizens have swapped their default currencies into tokenized us stable coins pegged to the dollar for the past 5+ years to deal with covid inflation. This makes USD stablecoin adoption be these groups new purchasers of us debt. Adoption must continues to expand to become a significant purchaser us debt through treasuries. This isn’t going to solve the problem but it kicks the can down the road.It is introducing a new market to purchase US debt. It depends on adoption to properly work to delay the collapse and the basement of the USD as a reserve currency.
>>542342496To be fair.Most of this is a biden thing.If I understand the issue correctly.
>>542344475Good luck but I fear it's too late for most EU nations. It will just be countless diaspora fighting each other as natural resources go extinct. WW2 rations will look like a vacation compared to what's coming in the EU. The US will have its own issues too, but it will revolve around inflation - not so much lack of resources. The difference is the US has many guns and people have been dehumanizing each other for two decades thanks to propaganda. So both western worlds will have a lot to deal with. EUs saying US will be worse off just annoys me because both will be pretty fucked. But at least the US won't be as bad resource wise.
>>542345190No this is a Nixon shark thing from 1971 finally coming back to reap.
>>542345257>Nixon shock
>>542342266should I buy 2 years since the fat retard is doing nothing to curb inflation??
>>542345370>buying bonds as rates skyrocket with no brakes
>>542343122>hedge accordinglyWhat do.
>>542345441what, should I wait for it to go higher?
>>542345460You are going to lose money. If you want 5% just pump and dump crypto all day.
>>542342362>10% Fuck, bro that would set me up so good. I already own multiple hard assets with locked-in sub-3% rates. A 10% yield on bonds would basically force the bank to pay me to own my houses XD
>>542345449Buy gold, physical
>>542345577why would I lose money? the govt has to pay out on bonds and 2 years is easy to wait
>>542345591They’ll possibly take everything financed with debt when the system collapses. Banks aren’t paying you to own property lmao.
>>542345623The money gets debased government restructures and your bonds are worthless maybe? Maybe maybe maybe
>>542345691why would they declare their own bonds worthless? thats not how it works
>>542345085They are afraid to write our king is crooked...so he writes, us fucking cooked, and is meaning actually, "not US...FU....rrrrrrr........." >hypocrites...
>>542345721No one would declare bonds worthless. They would become a relic of history a piece of paper that is non-redeemable. It hasn’t happened in US history however it could. He’s probably telling you to wait because bonds are going to skyrocket in the near future so why lock in 5% when you can get something better.
>>542345774because I could lock in 4.7 now and then reinvest the earnings when it goes to 7 or whatever
>>542345085At the basic level this is the approximate percentage annual interest the US government will realistically have to lend money at.This is usually done via bonds, they promise to pay ~this rate per year plus full repayment of the rest of the debt in something like 1-30 years (though anything >10y is probably now very difficult to sell and you'll likely have to pay even more percent per year to get people who lend the government money for that...). The 10 year lending "10 year bond note" is one of the most important, it's very often where governments can still find lenders.How does this percentage change on the market? Because the market insisted on bonds that can be transferred / sold rather than being stuck with the bond and they trade bonds like that at that rate.This is why it's "approximate" percentage annual interest when the government want to sell new bonds... under certain circumstances they can get better or worse rates, but it's ball park what the market already trades. In current circumstances this 4.917% might be the low end at which they can still sell some bonds but even then I wonder how many billions they could get even then.
>>542342442>effectsits amazing that zoomers are not even taught how to use proper language these days
>>542342496MAGA was just a disguised used by miggers. they never cared about America
>>542345721>Entire world lose faith in the US system>panic ensues>anon tries to put money in a safe space because of global market turbulence>buys US treasury bonds lmao!You are here.
>>542345881why is buying bonds worthless? its unironically the safest option besides CDs or gold
>>542345828I think you’re missing the point. The point is people are going to start feeing to physical assets that have hard value. The entire system is breaking down and we don’t know how much longer we have left so trying to game a few percentage points to reinvest back into the unstable unhealthy market is completely missing the point. You do you though!
>>542345970No one said worthless I guess you need to work on your reading comprehension.
>>542345460>>542345623>>542345721>>542345828If you dont understand how the bond market works, why are you so willing to fomo in? Tell you what...go ahead and buy....
>>542345608I don't have any safe place to keep it in. Society is shit and someone will steal it when things get really bad.
>>542343721>The US is just going to do a reset and make the Dollar 2.0.>Why would anyone partake in dollar 2.0? >There is no dollar 2.0 they don't understand how money works. The dollar is a unitThe FRN is temporarily associated with this unitThings will change when the Federal Reserve is destroyed and the FRN is a thing of the pastTreasury Dollars ftwRipping the tick of the federal reserve out is going to come with pain though>As you may know, I represent the RothschildsThis is 100% the reason why the Epstein files have not been released.Because its going to end the globohomo counterfeiting empire, therefore patsies are being neutralized first.
>>542346116I thought I did, what am I not understanding?
>>542344315>i hope you bought some BTC.This dummy missed the part about>if people knew who created BTC, it would immediately go to 0This tells me that its at minimum Epstein-adjacent
Have a Boat-Load-O-Niggers...With your 10=Year-Treasuries.Nothing makes a Treasury-Bond-Collapse more effective than...Boat-Load-O-Niggers.
>>542344224making a belt isn't hard
>>542346176existing bond values go down when bond rates go up. if you bought a bond in the past 5 years you have been losing money. bond value destruction will continue because miggerism is about accelerating the US's destruction
>>542345085The federal reserve was ALWAYS set up to blow upIt was always pre-blown
>>542342266? Im doing pretty good. Nice job, good wife. Closing on my new home.
>>542345257ThisPlus, covid was always part of the plan to blast the financial world, it was never going to be endless rug pulls. It was always going to be rug pulls until a full lock can be had.But anyone paying attention knows the central banking cartels have never been simultaneously so close to complete victory and absolute failure.
>>542346300the value goes down as opposed to newer(higher) yields but it still has to pay out at the rate I locked in
>>542346300Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) adjust their principal or interest value based on inflation metrics rather than traditional market interest rates, but are those really any better indicators lmao?
>>542346408
>>542342266Zoom out
>>542346408You do realize alternate inflation has been over 10% yoy since 2020?
>>542346408>>542346503The value you locked in shit, period. Worse still when you adjust for inflation. Yes you "could" lock in an inflation-adjusting rate. Which would still be hilariously subpar because the Fed "claims" inflation is 3.2% but anyone who isn't a retarded migger knows it's more like 9%. as is reflected in alt CPI indices. the simple fact is treasuries have been a bad purchase for a while and are only going to get much worse thanks to King Migger's policies
>>542346723>Alternate CPI inflation calculation
>>542342266Yes it is probably. Chekk’d
>>542346738how can they be getting worse if the yield goes up?
>>542346738Yep! I’m fully aware >>542346723
>>542346757Yes, because no one, not even the markets, trusts those official inflation numbers retard
>>542346805Drops in manufacturing quality across-the-board, shrink inflation, and “basket of goods” statistical substitution methods and misrepresentation of real CPI inflation. This is a new phenomenon in 2020. We’ve experienced 20 to 30 years of inflation in less than five.
>>542346805Because inflation is going up faster than the rate is. Both of which are really bad for the economy as a whole I should add. If you put your money into a 5% bond but inflation is actually 9% you are losing money.
>>542347111>checked Everyone knows official inflation numbers are completely bogus. The closest thing you have to real CPI is what happened in the 80s which is now considered alternate CPI inflation calculation which is what I’ve informed you. You’re never going to make it if you don’t understand how monetary theory and inflation work in reality.
>>542342266>TO THE MOON
>>542344318Eglin more like Niglin
name a place thats doing better
>>542345970Why do you consider bonds valuable?
>>542342381this>oh noes historically normal interest rates! think of the coin clippers and zombie businesses!
>>542347304because the stock market is a crapshoot(insider trading and dumping) and CD rates are too low
>>542346408>I locked in 3% while everything has been inflating by 5% every yearYou failed the IQ test.
>>542343848gee it sounds like mass deportations of our dirt cheap labor surely wont make this 3x worse
>>542347342No, you’re misunderstanding my question. What is the inherent value of a bond? What makes desirable? What does a bond represent?
>>542347375>It's better to lose 5% than 2%You should probably stick to insulting others, grown ups need to chat.
>>542347454oh nothing, but its a contract the government/fed has to paysame as stocks
>>542342266https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqiMQoMXmw
>>542347454like any security ultimately what it represents is a claim on future cash flows
>>542347378Mexiniggers and squatemalens don’t herd cows they pick fruits and vegetables. Cattle is handled by white men. White men have been getting squeezed by kikes with regulation and pressure from Jewish conglomerates to thin their herd because margins are fucked. Nice try tho.
>>542347375>imagine not seeing the matrixI’m in the process of converting a small fleet of trucks to propane as ethanol free gasoline is phased out over the next two decades. US produces 100% of its LG and it’s considered a bridge fuel off of gasoline by the EPA and the government. They run best on big block or aggressive small block builds. No regulatory hurdles. You can store thousands of gallons of propane on site indefinitely. No cold weather issues.
>>542347527>LNG*
>>542346408You still lost value though because you can only sell it on the Secondary market at the higher adjusted yield, which means selling it for less then you paid for. >but muh absolute principle and yieldvalue is always relative to what you can buy with it.
>>542347494Pay you with what?>>542347478>losing money at allClean the grease off the rim of my asshole with your tongue, niggerflag.
>>542342266If they keep fucking up the middle east for Israel, things will definitely get better.
>>542347553>you can only sell it on the Secondary marketwhy would I do that? I could hold for 2 years and get my payout>>542347588I assume a check like my tax refund
>>542347603Honestly. You’re the type that should probably pay for someone to manage your investments.
>>542345190You don’t understand things correctly
>>542342442If it doesn't get better US budger will have to pay 2 trillions of taxpayer money only for the dept to not increase. 2 MIC budgets, basically. Since they still borrow more, it will make debt increase 3-4 trillions per year. Which should result in default within 5 years or so, where it will be obvious that US will never be able to return the money, thus people will stop buying the debt. But, since you control the printing machine, they will simply go hyperinflation rout, making USD worthless, but technically not defaulting. In any way USD will stop being reserve currecny, thus the US will loose the ability to pay paper for consumer products (meaning no cheap stuff from China). This will result in severe drop in standards of living since every trade deficit America has now will be void and erased due to inability to pay for it (you'd have to earn real money before being able to buy anything abroad)
>>542342585Wow you are so cool. Did you just read a wiki article on that or asked AI?
>>542347527Happy for you brother. Not sure what that has to do with my post.>>542347603Dude I’m inclined to agree with >>542347649. I’m trying to get you to think about the inherent value of the dollar. Bonds are rising for many reasons but two of the big ones are the erosion of trust in the US’ ability to maintain the integrity of its currency and the perception that the US dollar can be traded for something of value.
>>542347723>Unless we move to a wartime economy, kekBetween the USD stable coins being back with treasuries and Iranian invasion maybe the dollar can eat out another 10-20 years
>>542342266It was at 5% all of three years ago. Doom elsewhere asshole.
>>542347798I know the value of the dollar is tanking and I'm aware how the economy is going down the shitter. But theres nothing *I* can do about that and in uneasy times like this I think its smartest to invest in a surefire payout vs a crapshoot like an index fund
>>542347798>TLDR: i’m retardedSorry it was about having insight to the matrix and I was providing another insight like hidden inflation. It wasn’t directly related, more so related to the other anon not being able to understand or see monetary policy structures and strategies that I deemed our part of the matrix.
>>542342266I already own nothing like 90% of all normies. It won't make any difference even if it's at 20%.
>>542347378its a tough call because a lot of people dont have jobs and so do you import immigrants so even fewer people have jobs and immigrants have all the jobs
>>542347798>>542347877if you live in America no strategy is going to save you.
>>542347854Most boomer post I’ve ever read. Good luck bud.>>542347877>being one of the millions of individuals who know that energy is the most important thing mankind has ever tamed and the disruption of its procurement causes the matrix to spaz outTruly breathtaking analysis. Next thing you’ll say is buying thermometers for El Niño is a matrix code line for a bad year for crop yield!
>>542347929I guess it depends on how you define *save me*. I’m debt free, and positioned to be able to grow my own food and provide production of food to barter with others. I have self-contained shelter, water, food, energy and waste management and soil systems. I live in a like-minded community surrounded by other doing the same things that I’m doing. We’re all armed. I don’t know what else I can do and honestly I don’t care. This is what I would be doing even if we weren’t facing a collapse so it’s not a sunk-cost to me, it’s just life.
>>542345190>Biden thingDid anything else happen in 2020-2021 that might fuck up food prices?
>>542348071what the fuck is boomer about playing the safe bet on a surefire payout? theyre mortgaging everything at the casino or letting some jew yorker manage their index fund
>>542347812It's going to be gold again for the time being. Or yuan. Ar something. It doesn't matter. The whole idea is that, you won't be able to spawn money from the fin air, which means your ability to buy physical stuff will drop 2 or 3 times. Which means that in addition to inherent hyperinflation driven by the debt and interest rates, you'd also additional inflation due to supply/demand disparity. People will try to keep their consumer level not understanding that their nation doesn't produce enough goods to pay for it - that behavior will result in further currency collapse. The country will continue futilely trying to lower the consumerism by introducing new and new tariffs which will ultimately contribute to even more inflation.You just don't run such trade deficit and debt for years. Your financial system is insolvable. It's not even Iran thing, Iran simply took 5 years of prosperity delusion from you.
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>>542348071I did pretty good with Covid I was able to asset dump and secure pretty much everything I need for my retirement plans pre-inflated price. I sold my suburban home at the height of the market and swapped it out for a rural area with 20 acres. I have my own energy systems. It might sound crazy but I’m really into having vehicles that I can maintain myself stock pile parts and store fuel long-term locally on site. I was just sharing a random detail sorry for bothering you.
>>542342266>Euroid zoomer retard trying to comprehend reality with nuspeak buzzwordskek
retard take
>>542348129>what the fuck is boomer about buying bonds
>>542348243>doesnt answer and just posts a wojakthanks, asshat
>>542342266Iran buckbroke ZOG, its hilarious to watch
>>542348166https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CARES_Act
>>542348164You’re not telling me anything I don’t already know and haven’t planned for completely. I pretty much have everything I need for the next few decades. Cheers.
>>542348180Sorry for spazzing out bud your scenario is ideal and I’m working towards it. I’ve got a few properties but I’d rather have one that’s outside of niggerhell. Godspeed to you and your loved ones.>>542348270You don’t buy bonds if you’re under the age of 40. That’s conventionally wisdom. Conventional wisdom is becoming unconventional due to the fact that bonds are becoming unattractive due to their baseline “value” being derived from fiat.
>>542348372
>>542348284Good for you. Buy gold, buy something physical that you know wouldn't depreciate. Probably stocks of things producing day-to-day stuff won't get affected much. Fake economy (AI, financial sector, services, etc.) will obviously collapse.
>>542348372>muh dollar is gonna collapse any day now!calling others boomers; go buy more shiny rocks to hide under your bed, retard
>>542342442>I dont understandyes america we know that you dont
>>542342442You literally pay for it. Would you want to pay for 5% or 1% interest? Instead of your taxes paying for infrastructure or whatever they're used to pay for interest.
>>542343405oh their even their money is mickey mouse
>>542348566I want to pay 100% interest>check my flag
More FRED stuff.We are doing great.
>>542348566>to pay for interestto (((WHOM))) is that interest payed, Jorje ?
>>542348416I have property, lots of tractor implements, a tractor, diesel side-by-side, a handful of old trucks and a new modern 2019 Toyota. I’ve got roughly 18 kW of solar and about 80 kW of battery storage. Multiple propane tanks holding thousands of gallons. Lots of external buildings for storage. I built two flagship workstations with a 5090 and 5080 at the beginning of the 2025 (loaded with v5 solid states and DDR five memory). I’ve got tons of networking switching equipment. I’ve got tons of monitors and back up older computers and I’m proficient with Linux and other various operating systems. Honestly I’m super lucky and why I was bringing up seeing hidden patterns in society and acting on them before it becomes general knowledge and some of my posts. You really have to stay on top of the monetary system. Obviously it’s the most important thing that you deal with every day: money. In reality this isn’t true and a fallacy however we are programmed to be this way and societal pressures create this precedent. Good luck to you fren!
Down the tubes lol
>>542342442Don't worry about it just print more money
>>542345085bond yield is the interest a country offers when it borrows money. it is determined by market forces and confidence in the country's ability to repay. the higher it is, the more expensive the interest payments the borrower is exposed toUS interest repayments are already at absurd levels, already well above their annual military budgetas they refinance their debt (take new loans to repay their old debts), the average interest rate will increase to even more insane levelspeople mistakenly claim it's not a big deal because they have been higher in the past, not understanding that in the past the US budget wasn't even a fraction as fucked
>>542347588Lmao don't forget your rent next month, and stop trying to give financial advice
>>542348681cool dashboard, how'd you get this
>>542348566That's wrong. US government never pays debts. They simply burrow more and more to return the previous debt and interest (plus tip for their actual current economy expenses). The payment is not in direct taxes per say, but rather in inflation that depreciates people's income and savings.
>>542342585This is a true up until people and companies stop spending and we get nice deflationary pressure on everything, including food, energy and housing.
>>542348522>one dollar could buy you a pound of ground beef on sale 6 years ago>that same dollar now buys you 4oz of the same ground beefDo you know what a collapse is, my brown migger friend?
>>542348814Claude + FREDBut I also verified the code to make sure it is pulling the right stuff and cross checked with other LLMs.
>>542348687>I have propertyThe cost of property correlates with the prosperity of the place it exists in. Just go and ask AI how much gold worth of a house 50 years ago can buy you today. You'd find out that even thought the nominal price of stuff goes up, it actually doesn't. The house only ever costs anything if it's sought by wealthy people, The moment US economy 'transforms', there won't be much of capital seeking to buy that. If it's agricultural land, then it's okay, since the inability to buy stuff from abroad will push demand for internal producers. But not any property.
>>542342381kek ultra low IQ>>542342442mad respect for admitting it. most people commenting, including the ones responding to you or lecturing you, also don't know
>>542349069>The cost of property correlates with the prosperity of the place it exists inthis is the most retarded take as of today.is this why properties are insanely expensive in rabat, morocco? Up to $3k per sq.m. last I checked.Or Russia is a legit 3rd world shithole but properties cost more than in NYC in some places?
Higher yield is actually good
>>542349069I’m not interested in selling :)
>>542349161are you the same spain flag who ranted how nobody on /pol/ understood what Navier Stokes was about and what was proven by AI and but you at least admitted that? Same vibe. Same flag. Just curious.
>>542349262Again. Go an compare prices IN GOLD. People's real income dropping (this is actually what happens) and other stuff becoming cheaper due to technological advance is what masks the depreciation. In real money, everything depreciates. But since the line goes up and people income doesn't grow, they think the value increases. It doesn't. The value of your property will drop, doesn't mean it becomes affordable for the population or that it drops in nominal, it means it was 10kg of gold and then it become 3. Even thought you think it's prices actually went up. It didn't, it was the opposite actually.
I am shocked that promising a trillion dollar stimulus to the public didn’t lower yields. What the fuck?
>>542348681Neat. I built a little macro trading model in excel for swing trading oil >picrel
>>542342266Zoom out, nigger.
>>542348210Is that your AI?
>>542342442One effect is that this will assblast the housing market.
>>542349519>doesn't mean it becomes affordable for the population or that it drops in nominalbut you are contradicting your own claim right here. if a house "depreciates" from 10kg of gold to 3kg, but the local population still cannot afford it, that proves that the local purchasing power dropped even faster than the property did.and you fail to explain why an apartment in moscow or rabat costs as much as in NYC?Some real estate in Nairobi Kenya costs as much as $2-3M USD per acre.
>>542349864Whoa dude did you figure out that treasury yields compete with other securities based off the FFR? The issue here is not the rate itself; it’s that the demand on return is outpacing the federal funds rate, and the treasury can’t do anything to slow it down. There is nothing controlled about this. You guys really will just post a graph and think that means something.
>>542349711Very nice. I generally love the idea of using AI for this stuff. You can build your own fucking Bloomberg platform, minus the expense datafeeds but you work with what you have access to. FRED is free, and then you can use Tradier or whatever as a retail. >>542349984Not my AI. Just AI, yes. AI and FRED and subject matter: you need to know what you are building.
>>542342266MIGA
>>542348077good for you, seriously. I meant there's no financial strategy / trade that will allow one to avoid pain or crabs in a bucket there way to the top. Unless you are a connected insider already, and if so, would they really be posting here? What you have done is likely the best route possible and if that's how you'd rather live anyway, even better.
>>542350223Again. Type in google. If a person 50 years ago instead of a house bought gold for the same amount of money, how much that person would have today. You think your property prices are high and they are unaffordable. It's true, but not because of what you think. It actually became cheaper several times, it's just your salaries dropped even more. Is it hard to understand? The cost of producing stuff lowers over time due to technologies and competition, salaries also drop. The real income 'stagnates', but it only stagnates in comparison with stuff that gets cheaper and cheaper to make. In reality your income drops. You can see it in how much money CEO and billioners make - these people income actually stagnates, but in nominal they become super rich.
>>542349397yes
>>542343721>"don't worry guys! they will just wave their hand and make Money 2.0! smooth sailing from there!"
>>542342442This line makes jews sad so we all must be sad :(
>>542351103It’s fucking hilarious
>>542346663No.You’re stupid too.
>>542351103>>542351156Yeah, remember the 2007 financial crisis? All the rich people lost their homes while normal people were unaffected, oh wait.
>>542344224?
>>542346723>>542346757>>542346738>alternate CPIif you guys are talking about shadow stats, it's wrong too. The actual rate of inflation is an almost exact match for the federal deficit measured in percent of GDP, and it's running about 6-7% right now.
>>54234384625 years later and pissreal still existing is pretty indicative of how cucked America has been since Nixon.
>>542351251/pol/ are retarded animals who see graphs and have an autism attack and imagine they're abstract psychic attacks meant to chain them inside plato's cave. These are the same people who pray for a crash everyday not knowing or being willfully ignorant that the people with large liquid assets (obviously not you) are salivating to buy up everything they want but would be satisfied as long as they saw one news article about a mid-level executive saying 'he lost everything'
