Japan has lost all of it's high tech industries. 30 years ago, it was completing head2head with America in every single technological field, today it's probably the least advanced G7 nation and is still falling behind. People shit on the A.I bubble or China's overcapacity in high end manufacturing, but at the end of the day, at least they have the tech, even if they had to spend an insane amount of money and debt to achieve it. The dotcom bubble didn't end the internet after all and America continued to dominate the internet age afterwards. Meanwhile, Japan both has a massive debt crisis and is still falling behind badly. This will continue to get worse too, China and SK are still eating up the remains of whatever high tech sectors that Japan has left, Chinese EVs are rapidly displacing Japanese cars globally, which is the one area where Japan is still dominant in. And Japan is nothing without technology, they have no oil/gas/mineral resources or farmland and their general geography is horrible. Their advanced technology is the sole reason why they have been so successful over the last century. At least other countries in decline like Russia has their vast natural resources to fall back on. And Japan has zero plans to reverse this technological decline, their government is totally clueless. At this rate, Japan will join Russia as one of the few advanced economies that actually has a board and sustained technological decline. In another decade Japan have nothing but tourism and cultural exports left, a 3rd world nation in all but name. India and other 3rd world nations might actually surpass them technologically.
>>542342802they need to important brown folks and destroy whatever is left
very symbolic they started declining after Squaresoft filed for bankruptcy
I can save them.
Not just technological but media wise they are behind too, it seems like they don't give a shit
>>542342802Relax mleccha. Leave it to us. Namaste, nippon-san!
>>542342807the world just can not resist Indian talent
>>542342807>Facing mounting pressure from chinaChina is smart, they literally had to do nothing and all of their enemies immediately self destruct
>>542342807>tons of western cs grads still looking for work in their field>actually respect japan and would contribute>decide to speedrun civilization collapse instead
>>542342807wasn't there like a bigass uproar that Indian credentials are just outright bought these days?
>>542342811Not a problem that affected just indians.Mostly the rich and connected bribe their way out of their country regardless of the scenario.
>>542342802>trust fund the country the above comment is only for High iq individuals
>>542342810I visited Poland last year and had an Indian free experience
>>542342814Not for too long. The "anti-immigration" party will soon get back to power. And they will import massive amounts of shitskins to work at shitty jobs. Just like they did it before.There are some villages with 30% immigrants right now.
>>542342807>Right wing government elected on promise to clamp down on immigration>Floods country with immigrantsEvery. Single. Fucking Time!
>>542342809China went from a nation of farming peasants to the most advanced country on the planet in a few decades. That's quite the "nothing" to pull off. It's currently building the largest hydroelectric power facility in the world in Tibet and cucking both India and Bangladesh in the process by taking control of the river which supplies much of their water. China is constantly putting pressure on other countries, safe in the knowledge that it's completely untouchable by anyone (including the US). You just don't hear about it if Drumpf or some other Jewish-owned Western politician isn't crying about it.
>>542342802I mean, both Korea and China have operated on a 'fuck Japan' ideology for decades, they looked at every industry Japan is proficient in and said 'lets fuck 'em' and used significant amounts of government money to undercut them in every field. Even Japan's creative fields are being gutted and filled with superior copies from China and Korea
>>542342817ok Chang, your nationalistic CCP propaganda besides, China is experiencing a complete social decay from within.
Japan never deserved their economic boom after what they did in WW2Very insulting to white countries like the UK which Burgerland cynically sold out and suffered despite their enormous contribution to, you know, defeating the JapaneseEnjoy your Jeets, Japan
>>542342814>indian freeI was in Poland 10 years ago and Ukrainians filled that niche successfully.
>>542342819Two more weeks, right?
>>542342822How's your burned out youth doing in the nonexistant job market? Or marriage rates for that matter did passing the law to stop your greedy bitches from bankrupting men work?
>>542342802Japan has been begging Koreans to help bail out and save their dying semiconductor industry too.Its that grim for Japan.
>>542342802It's fake. They were never competing. Go read or watch Princes of the Yen to understand why.
>>542342811>these dayslol, lmao
>>542342825Whats the TL;DW?
>>542342827Japan had a controlled economy that worked quite well for their people. US didn't like it wasn't a central bank-controlled economy following US-style financial theory, so they orchestrated an artificial bubble to force Japan to yield monetary policy powers entirely to the central bank, which allowed US control of their economy. They also pulled a similar coup across SEA countries. Thus, all the value and wealth of Japan at the time was artificial, potemkin village style. It was so bad that companies stopped producing what they were supposed to because it was more profitable to play the stock market than to actually sell products.
>>542342814I am pole and single pajeet I saw in my entire life was working in Kopernik airport in McDonald's
>>542342802japan and sk is the pinnacle of "we tried nothing and nothings working" leaders and voters would rather the entire nation slowly die than try new things and fuck it up. which makes sense because most voters are geriatrics who don't understand the modern world, which is the core of all of japans problems really very high inhibition society
>>542342802and how much revenue did those 148 companies in 1995, and how much in 2026 (corrected for inflation).just because everyone else is doing running much faster comparitively doesnt mean theyre not still running at a good pace
>>542342830You're dumb. Korea has been regrowing their birth rates for 4 years in a row now and is higher than china, taiwan, thailand, etc. while Japan finally increased last month (mainly due to record numbers of immigrants giving birth in Japan but still). They are doing things.
>>542342832Does birthrate even matter in a world where A.I is gonna take over 99% of the jobs?
Looks like they're actually leveling out and calibrating for healthy maintenance. People are so fucking clueless about what a "good society" or country looks like. Eternal growth isn't possible. Eternal growth based systems are ultimately doomed. This is why other countries become obsessed with mass migration of foreigners, it's a last gasp attempt at clinging to the "growth at any cost" mantra.The Japanese are a singular people that believe in themselves and their future. They have a dynastic perspective on business and economics, their corporations last for centuries and are built more around stability and trust than chasing the next quarter's earnings. They make a mockery of the entire concept of GDP worship. Go there and see for yourself, the entire country is clean, orderly, safe, and prosperous.Growth comes and growth goes, what you need to do is ensure stability and maintenance and they have done that. In this era of mass technology you actually need less people, not more.
>>542342833This dude. We were already a very automated, tech powered generation, and now AI has exacerbated that. We need far less people to do more now.Who cares about a population correction? All it means is less ass wipers for the aging boomer retards in nursing homes, who cares about that? They quite literally made this bed. If you buy into perpetual growth nonsense you give the mass migration psychos a platform, don't do that. We'll be fine.
>>542342802Regression to mean. Japan was only successful because of US patronage. With that gone, Japan is gradually reverting back to its traditional culture that stifles innovation.
>>542342802LLMs are a fraud and a waste of money a broken dead end and unfixable only useful as toys completely wortjless economically when you factor that in Japan is probably doing ok
>>542342835>We were already a very automated, tech powered generation, and now AI has exacerbated that.This is the type of increablely retarded smoothbrain shilling worthless LLM broken toys here
>>542342823Chink won't answer since he already put rope around his neck... most chinks are this fragile...
>>542342838Go ahead and tell me why we need to double our population every 20 years faggot
>>542342810>>tons of western cs grads still looking for work in their fieldWestern CS grads actually expect to be paid decently, though.
>trust me gaijin, electric cars are just a meme and will go away soon. gasoline is the future.
>>542342833Westoids make birth rates a hot topic when faced with a rising East Asia, while ignoring that the west is well below replacement levels as well. Its just cope.Plus, Korea has the highest density of robotics and automation of all countries by a wide margin because this is their game plan for future technologies displacing jobs amidst a declining population.Larry Fink, King Jew from Blackrock, even had his perspective changed on declining population after visiting Korea and meeting with their tech and gov leadership:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW6JVcz7gxs
>>542342843
>build probably the strongest brand in TVs>sell it out to the chinks
>>542342843>>542342844The issue here is that Japan's A.I development is total dogshit. And their robotics are also starting to fall behind China.
>>542342846Aren't they big consumers of ChatGPT and DeepSeek over there? I've never heard of a Japanese AI lab come to think of it.
>>542342847Japan is super anti-A.I. And it's not just A.I, software development in Japan has always lagged behind, even back during their boom years. I can easily see China and SK adapting well to the future of robotics and A.I, but Japan seems determined to stay stuck in the year 2000
>>542342846naturally follows from the Japanese being shit at software where coders were always looked down on as being subhumans vs hardware engineers golden gigachads.
OH NO THEY AREN'T PARTICIPATING IN OUR CASINO THAT POSES AS AN ECONOMY THEY ARE HORRIBLE. Japan will continue to be Japan.
>>542342844>>542342846Japanese used to be leaders in robotics back in the days due to their actuators but now Korea makes the most advanced next generation of actuators and leads that market.
>>542342848>Japan is super anti-A.I.Nope. Everyone is using it.
>>542342842Last I heard Japanese car companies had a lot of internal fighting over electric, they didn't want to abandon decades of advancement and refinement for something new. Which explains a lot of how Japanese corpos have died.
>>542342850k, but they suck dicks at robotics now despite having been top dogs, dishonoraburu
>>542342820>white countries like the UK The UK is the primary reason for the state of the modern world
>>542342850>AREN'T PARTICIPATING IN OUR CASINOYou have no clue do you. Japan is the key part of the casino. JPY carry trade bankrolls the entire western market. Why do you think US bail out Japan recently? Because without that carry trade everything falls apart
>>542342822I say this
>>542342850In recent years, Japan became the #1 holder of US government bonds, surpassing China
>>542342853>Last I heard Japanese car companies had a lot of internal fighting over electric, they didn't want to abandon decades of advancement and refinement for something new.Because they're not retarded. All of the big auto companies are reverting back to internal combustion engine because electric cars only work in specific regions and countries where everything is tightly clustered. Electric is not viable in 75% of America because its miles of nothing to the horizon and beyond. Japanese car companies became huge because they focus on the American market, not the Japanese market because most Japanese use the trains. Japan itself is actually perfect for electric cars.
>>542342843The issue here is that we don't need more human meatbags when robots can do the physical work and AI can do the mental work.
>>542342802>India and other 3rd world nations might actually surpass them technologically.With AI as good as it is now, that's pretty much inevitable
>>542342852They have no real domestic AI except for one that is limited to Japanese only and focused on Japanese data and a clone off chinese open source models.Japan has been dependent on other countries for help. Its nothing new but a sign that Japan's days of innovating on its own are over.
>>542342841Nah, living in Japan is already dexent enough pay, which does not compare to living in a shithole like many parts of USA.
https://www.ajinomoto.com/innovation/our_innovation/buildupfilmOP IS A FAGGOT
>>542342863The fuck? High cost of life and $60k/year in tech if you have 10+ yoe.
>>542342865>high cost of lifeNot true, their housing (most important thing) is much cheaper than in the US
>>542342866kek
>>542342807>JeetedJapan's politeness is going to kill them.
>>542342802And that's a good thing!
>>542342864>my CPU has MSG in itNice!
>>542342802All of this because in the late 80s the US got scared that Japan would become a tech super power and decided to destroy their economy while boosting China economy
>>542342863Record number of Japanese have to cut back on eating at least twice a week just to get by. Record number of Japanese are filing for warefare to make ends meet because their wages can no longer afford rent and foods, both of which are rising faster than other countries due to the weak yen. Malaysian tech workers are paid more than Japanese tech workers now. Japan is dead.
>>542342809>>542342817>Most advancedKek. How does that work if China isn't inventing anything?
>>542342873Right?Lets check their track record:>AI? Stolen from US companies and further uses distillation attacks to hone their AI off frontier US models.>DDR5?Stolen from Samsung.>LPDDR5?Literally uses Samsung chips but chinese polished off the Samsung logo to print huawei on it.>HBM?Licensed from SK Hynix but still struggling with yields on old generation HBM3.>Folding Screens?Stolen from Samsung.>OLED?Stolen from Samsung.>LCD Tech?Purchased factory and IP from Samsung.>Leading edge nodes?Depends on Samsung for foundry services.>EV Battery packaging and safety tech?Stolen from LG Energy Solutions.China isn't the leader in anything other than theft of IP.Korea is the actual tech powerhouse china pretends to be.
>>542342866enjoy eating water bc youre too fuckin gpoor kobiashi
>>542342871As Kissinger said himsef, it may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal. Trump is only saying the quiet part out loud in that respect.>>542342873>Ha, we're so smart! The Chinese need to steal from us to do anything!Yet apparently not so smart that you can't prevent simple industrial espionage. Thanks for sinking all those billions into R&D, but we'll just manufacture the finished product ourselves and not get stuck paying you a licensing fee. After all... what are you going to do about it?
>>542342832>Korea has been regrowing their birth rates for 4 years in a rowThat's plausibly just a COVID backlog, people put off marriage and kids (birth outside wedlock is rare in Korea - <5% vs. 40% in the US) during the pandemic are having them now. The raw number of births is set to decline as the generations are replaced by smaller ones.
>>542342877That logic would apply to ALL developed countries who are all also below replacement levels.But that makes zero sense as factors change. We've seen drops in rate through out history and times of increase. Its not linear nor static.
>>542342802They still have tourism.
>>542342876No one wants to buy poor quality chinese stolen IP products anyway. Even flagship Chinese phones buy Samsung made screens.
What happened to Japan for things to get this bad?
>>542342878>That logic would apply to ALL developed countries who are all also below replacement levels. It does. Korea isn't the only country to report higher birth rates for at least some part of its population (Americans on /pol/ have been bragging about white conservative birth rates recently). Every developed country (to my knowledge) has the same problem and similar population pyramids where larger generations are reaching fertility (the 1991-1996 "second echo boom" cohort is the largest since the 70s), making it look like the TFR and birth rate are growing. Those generations will be replaced by smaller ones in the near future, so the trend will likely revert.>But that makes zero sense as factors change.What makes zero sense?>We've seen drops in rate through out history and times of increase. Its not linear nor static.I was just pointing out that the apparent reversal can be explained by factors other than the trend actually reversing. Btw recovery of TFR from below 1.5 back to replacement is unprecedented in recorded history. It has never ever happened.
>>542342881The Plaza Accord and resulting bubble, which then popped. Never trust the United States.
>>542342876Most advanced civilization, thank you prease
>>542342882White births in the US is well below replacement. Even if us conservatives have more babies than liberals, we're not making enough to replace our ageing population.>1.5 TFRWestern Europe and White American s are going to be extinct I guess. Also when wars dropped TFR to near zero those countries went extinct too I guess.
>>542342885>Even if us conservatives have more babies than liberals, we're not making enough to replace our ageing population. >Western Europe and White American s are going to be extinct I guess.Certain subgroups within certain populations have above replacement fertility (mainly ultraconservative religious groups like the Amish) and it's theorised that they will simply replace everybody else. So you could argue the current problem is mostly liberalism/progressivism eating itself.>Also when wars dropped TFR to near zero those countries went extinct too I guess.No population has gone extinct from low birth rates alone. Sparta did go extinct (at least the citizen/warrior caste) due to combined TFR and war though.
>oh no!>less people!
>>542342802So what? Countries rise and fall, you can't go against history.
yep, not a single AI innovation from japantheir biggest "contribution" is a scam called sakana ai that just calls other proprietary modelsthis country suffers from too many managers and too few incentives/pay for technically skilled people so the smart ones go abroad
>wumao chinksect thread
>>542342802Japan "high-tech" was always a scam, it was all western technology, they were just very good at copying, but then the gooks got even better at that and eventually the chinksects surpassed both. Mongoloids can't truly create or innovate, they entirely depend on the west to guide them.
>>542342874Found the gook
>>542342893Zhang, is it wrong though? Stop stealing and you won't need to seethe when called out on it.Also, I've seen jeets post it on other boards, so...
>>542342820>Japan never deserved their economic boom after what they did in WW2Losing?
why did they move this to here
>>542342802
That's what you get for posting this on /a/
