You guys complain about jews controlling the economy and consumerist degeneracy all the time but you never to condem capitalism, the origin of all those things.Marx literally predicted the state we are in today 178 years ago.
New Left CIA idpol psyop neuter leftism with progressivism etc.
>>542356613The answer is you don't understand politics or economics outside of normie influencer youtube reels and you just repeat what they tell you uncritically instead of scrutinising the history of people who have discussed the issue those influencers never mention, like Hilaire Belloc, G. K. Chesterton, Theodor Fritsch or Friedrich List
>>542356613>Marx literally predictedThen surely you can make a direct quote where he predicted it.
>>542356613Yes but Are you afraid yet? Pinochet and co etc?
>>542356613>be brown>love commie shitEvery single time. This board is such a lefty shitskin hellhole.
>>542356613I don't think people on /pol/ are all that into capitalism. They're natsoc, which is a different thing, I think
>>542356973“The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones.” And then the famous line:“All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned…”Marx is still a kike though.
>>542356613>MarxHenlo retard.
We already have socialism in the UK, thousands of boat people come and claim their free houses and healthcare.
>>542356906Dropping a list of historical thinkers to make yourself look smart while making wild assumptions about media consumption isn't an argument—it’s just condescension. If you want to talk about the actual issue, let’s talk about it. If you just want to feel superior, you can keep that monologue to yourself. Move away from the simplistic arguments and let’s see what your intellect is actually working with. If you think Hilaire Belloc’s distributism or Friedrich List’s National System explain this specific situation better, I’m genuinely open to hearing your take
>>542356613I didn't care for Camp Lazlo
>>542357142The last quote from Marx is particularly remarkable.
>>542357142Both of these quotes can be directly applied to the Soviet Union, a state built on Marxist principles.
>>542357274Calling the UK 'socialist' because it temporarily houses migrants while assessing their legal status is absurd. Socialism is about workers owning the means of production, not a capitalist state managing a border crisis. Nobody is getting a free house. Asylum seekers are kept in basic temporary holding sites, and under the Immigration and Asylum Bill, they are forced to pay back up to £10,000 for their accommodation costs once they work, with their permanent residency held hostage until the debt is cleared. It's a restrictive, market system where the majority of enterprises are private (as opposed to actual market socialism, where the majority are state directed/state owned, like China), not socialist.
>>542356613Because communist solutions are bad and laughable. It's like the fags saying "let's build a relugion, because I hate a the ones out there." It's DOA because the communist already believes that every institution is a corrupt system of control. Since they're only conception is based on control they've already lost the plot on building institutions. Same with making up a religion. If you already believe they're made up you'll be unable to be sincere or consistent.
>>542356613Every communist sympathizer needs to be stomped out of existence. Communism = a society where discord mod like people get to rule over everyone and they can kill anyone for whatever reason.If you support this you must be neutralized at any cost to save humanity from this dark age. I will stop at nothing. If you stand with the reds you stand with terror.
>>542356613Every system works forever so long as all participants play fairly, just like any other machine, politics and governance are no different.
>>542357912You quote Adolf Hitler’s whiny diary entries from Mein Kampf and its a hilarious way to lecture anyone on how to build stable institutions. The 'sincere' institutions Hitler built lasted a pathetic 12 years and ended with his country flattened into ash and his ideology permanently banned. Your claim that leftists can't build institutions is historically illiterate. Marxist Leninists took backward, illiterate peasant nations in the USSR and China and built massive state, educational, and scientific institutions that transformed them into global superpowers. They eliminated homelessness and mass poverty {China, bringing 800 million people out of poverty} (despite not being heavily subsidized by western governments, and heavily opposed and sanctioned and surrounded by them), wiped out illiteracy, and built industrial frameworks that outlasted the Axis a thousand times over. Socialists don't think institutions are inherently evil; we understand class analysis, rather that they are subject to the scientific method of trial error and the self selective process of elimination. We criticize capitalist laws and borders because they are engineered to protect private monopolies and exploit workers. Recognizing that an institution is human made doesn't mean you can't build a new one it gives you the blueprint to construct a better one. Leftists build housing, hospitals, and space programs based on material reality and collective survival. Fascists build a fragile, short lived cult of personality based on racial myths, and then cry when it inevitably implodes. You’re quoting a guy who died in a bunker to prove your point about 'successful institutions.' Take the L.Go ahead and call me a kike, but I already know from every fascist I’ve ever debated that you’re intellectually inferior and have a gallery of quotes and infographics about Jews and white replacement (natural selection).
>>542358441Every communist state goes through murderous purges, famines, and mass incarceration until they stabilize themselves into a state of widespread poverty and corruption. China is only doing we because its' impoverished citizens are working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week to undercut other Asian countries.
>>542358818Your understanding of modern China is stuck in a 1990s Cold War time capsule. The idea that China is winning because of '12-hour sweatshop labor undercutting Asia' is completely economically illiterate. China isn't outcompeting the world on cheap labor anymore, it’s outcompeting the world because it leads the globe in industrial automation, quantum computing, green technology, and advanced robotics. Under the guidance of the Communist Party, China didn't stabilize into 'widespread poverty'; it executed the greatest economic miracle in human history by lifting 800 million people out of extreme poverty and creating the largest middle class on Earth. And lecturing socialist driven states on early industrial violence is the ultimate capitalist hypocrisy. Every major Western capitalist superpower built its initial wealth on centuries of colonial genocide, the chattel slave trade, and brutal imperial famines that killed tens of millions in places like India and Ireland. The difference is that capitalism used that blood to enrich a tiny elite of oligarchs, while China used state planning to transform a starving, war-torn agrarian nation into an advanced scientific superpower where the state owns the land and the banks. You can repeat old Cold War fairy tales all you want, but the material reality on the ground completely rejects your narrative.You say this, yet you contradict yourself epistemologically by supporting (Nazi Germany) on the foundations of systemic removal, violence, labor camps, and plundering for its own shortages. then you hide behind liberal democracies in hopes that you’ll appeal to the common worker; while hundreds of millions were killed in the name of capitalistic imperialism (around 100 million Native Americans for example, the eradication and replacement of an entire identity). And what about the slave labor in concentration camps? That all of a sudden doesn’t apply? Do you not see how many logical fallacies you’re making?
>>542359584No, they're putting workers in unsafe factories with practically no safety standards where they work non-stop until Chinese New Year and that's how they're able to manufacture absolutely everything. The CCP shill, like the soviet propagandist shows the success of the state while suppresing the suffering of the people to advertise global communism.
>>542359584China is your shining example? Looool. Why not the Khmer? Doesn't fit your narrative?You're not debating anyone nor do you win anything. Communism has achieved absolutely nothing remarkable. It's a dictatorship of sociopaths and retards. Imagine the most retarded one of your neighbors suddenly getting the power to decide if you live or die. Fuck off commie faggot. You're insane.I will forever defend the freedom of east Germany.
>>542360194Marx forbid they ever even mention Cuba or Cambodia.
Nooo we can't color walls that's decadent! We all must live in grey shit! We all must have the same fucking desk! Based! We achieved the classless society (no don't ask about party people, that's illegal) by turning the life of everyone into shit and now we can live in shit together oh my good smash capitalism!!You trying to sell constructing toilets as something insane only communists can do is hilarious. Coomunists have no edge in anything.
>>542360194Bringing up the Khmer Rouge is the ultimate historical self own. The Khmer Rouge was a hyper nationalist agrarian cult that rejected Marxist industrialization. It was actually the Marxist Leninist state of Vietnam (backed by the USSR) that militarily invaded Cambodia and crushed Pol Pot's regime to stop the atrocities. Meanwhile, the United States and Western capitalist powers actively funded and diplomatically backed Pol Pot's forces at the UN out of spite against the actual communists (just like the USSR with Yeltsin). You are literally blaming communism for a regime that communists destroyed. But the funniest part of your entire outburst is your grand finale: 'I will forever defend the freedom of East Germany.' Go open a basic history book. East Germany was a Marxist Leninist socialist state allied with the Soviet Union. You are so historically illiterate that in your rush to throw a tantrum and yell at a communist, you accidentally pledged allegiance to a communist state. You are screaming contradictory slurs and losing your mind because you don't have the factual capacity to handle actual history. You aren't defending freedom; you're just a historical illiterate shouting into the void. Take the L, read a book, and go touch grass. And while the concern about top down bureaucracies is necessary, only when taken from a Marxist Trotskyist or anarcho communist perspective, you fail to confront the alternative to pure bureaucratic power dynamics and control, but that’s mainly because of Stalin outmaneuvering Trotsky.
>>542356613that's really cute and all, sweaty, but i'm going to have to denounce the talmud and the heathen rabbis that wrote it
>>542356613>You guys complain about jews controlling the economy and consumerist degeneracy all the time but you never to condem capitalism, the origin of all those things.How fucking new are you? It’s been accepted fact on the board that the entire capitalism vs communism dialectic is a materialistic and thus jewish discussion. Both systems claim human contentment and happiness necessarily are only functions of access to consoooooomer bullshitBoth reject any notions of goodness, virtue and morality, in addition to faith. Embrace National Socialism
>>542360739>memeflag jew>intentional mischaracterization of history Vietnam was a communist state backed by the Soviet Union. Cambodia was a communist state backed by China. The Soviet-Sino split took place in tgd 60’s for a reason. The Soviets were interested in gay international jewish communism, while the Chinese were far more focused on a Chinese nationalistic communism of sorts. They encouraged the same thing in Cambodia.Imagine actually trying to argue the U.S. supported Cambodia, lmfao. We had soldiers fighting in Cambodia and we were waging active glownigger campaigns there to disrupt the Ho Chi Minh trail that went through Laos and Cambodia.
>>542360690Youre fighting a 50 year old caricature of Soviet grey walls because you don't actually understand modern economic logistics. The uniformity of the 20th century happened because paper based bureaucracies lacked the computing power to handle individual human choices. A modern cybernetic hybrid (top down and bottom up) system does the exact opposite: it is the ultimate engine for customization. By utilizing real time data, AI, and decentralized network inputs, a cybernetic economy registers exactly what people want whether it's 500 different paint colors or uniquely designed furniture and routes the logistics to create it. It replaces corporate marketing data with direct worker preference. Furthermore, by combining bottom up community demands with top down AI coordination, you completely bypass the corrupt 'party elites' you're crying about. When the allocation of resources is handled on a transparent, automated ledger driven by public input, you don't need a bureaucratic middleman to hand out favors. Nobody is trying to sell 'constructing toilets' as a communist miracle. We are telling you that capitalism is currently choking on decaying fiat systems, artificial scarcity, and billionaire tech monopolies. Cybernetic socialism is the only framework that uses 21st century technology to give people absolute material abundance and design freedom without a corporate boss or a state bureaucrat controlling their life. You’re arguing against a bureaucratic ghost from the 1970s while refusing to talk about the future. But here’s something for you: your race continues to die out and what can you do about it while the diversity of mankind continues to muttify white genetics? This is a reality you can’t escape from no matter how much you vote AFD or try to romanticize the past with nationalism as selective breeding and fiat inflation limits your offspring over time, while your only alternative is a Lesbian with an Indian wife.
>>542361331 Youre so historically illiterate that you’re confusing the 1960s with the 1980s. Yes, the U.S. bombed Cambodia during the Vietnam War to hit the Ho Chi Minh trail. But Pol Pot didn't take power until 1975, and Vietnam didn't kick him out until 1979. After 1979, the U.S. completely flipped its strategy out of pure spite toward Vietnam and the USSR. Explain this to me, Einstein: If the U.S. didn't support the Khmer Rouge, why did both the Carter and Reagan administrations vote to keep Pol Pot’s regime in Cambodia’s official United Nations seat all the way until 1993? The Khmer Rouge flag literally flew over New York City for over a decade because the U.S. refused to recognize the Vietnamese backed government. The U.S. openly forced the creation of the CGDK guerrilla coalition, which included the Khmer Rouge, and funneled over $80 million in aid to them. US diplomats literally admitted that by feeding the coalition, they allowed them to spend their cash on Chinese weapons instead. The US engineered the survival of the Khmer Rouge as a proxy tool against Vietnam. And your brain rotted babble about 'gay international Jewish communism' is a hilarious self own. The USSR was aggressively socially conservative and nationalistic, don’t confuse it for your “Baizuo” problem in western nations, they’re too distracted by identity politics and virtue signaling to make any real change, LGBT and BLM flags are only a result of late stage capitalism; you won’t find this issue in China or Vietnam. You are crying about 'intentional mischaracterizations of history' while using imaginary internet memes because actual UN voting records, declassified CIA documents, and basic chronological timelines completely eviscerate your narrative. You don't know anything about the Sino Soviet split, you don't know anything about Indochina, and your entire worldview just got dismantled by basic historical literacy. Take the L and go back to your forum.
>>542356613Remember when Camp Lazlo was a thing?
>>542361764Kepe going
