Another juror CONDEMNS the lone holdout juror for refusing to accept Clancey is not guilty of murdering her children.
>>542360331What a faggot
>>542360331>not guilty of murdering her children.she was gonna be declared not guilty due to insanity you drunk aussishe would had spent the rest of her life institutionalized.
>>542360331>refusing to acceptGod you fuckers love torturing the English language to introduce bias into statements.
>>542360331Why are they even giving these interviews? They come off looking like retards. A juror is under no obligation to provide evidence for their opinion and certainly shouldn't be harassed because they didn't agree with everyone else.
>>542360331What a weak manMay he never have children of his own>just kidding, none of the kids his wife had are his LMAO
I don't like his face
>>542360563book deal niggadey tryin to get dat green
>>542360563They think majority in the jury room is going to translate to majority opinion of the public.
>>542360487Except she wasn't insane you stupid idiot.
>>542360331>physiognomy check>complete beta dork>many such cases
>>542360487>she would had spent the rest of her life institutionalized.She would have spent however long it took for her to be cured. Seeing as she isn't crazy that will be about 6 months and probably starting supervised releases in 2 years. Outpatient check-in annually for the rest of her life.
>>542360742even if she wasn't, the loony bin is 10 times worse than women prison
>>542360863She would had to prove she improved over her default mental state, how do you manage that when sane is already your baseline
She was deemed fit to stand trial, she could have pled insanity, she could have testified since she was now sane.
>Do you have any eyewitnesses who can prove she wasn't insane?
Why does this matter again? Not guilty due to insanity is also guilty. Does this set a prescedent?
>>542360331manlet juror
>>542361083It kept the status quo
>>542360487>she was gonna be declared not guilty due to insanityWe just don't believe this is a real thingThat's all
>>542360487>>542360863she's also stuck in a wheel chair. she's not gonna be that much of a threat.
>>542361025He's just asking the other juror about evidence that they saw at trial. And his understanding of the burden of proof is correct in MA: https://www.mass.gov/doc/9200-lack-of-criminal-responsibility/download
>>542361323I do not care. That is a gay and retarded law and Char juror ignored it, as any real man should.
>>542360891Which she gets to leave as soon as she's declared sane, and she's already sane you laughable little moron.
>>542361125HAHAHAHAHABETA
>>542361174>>542361323Ok child murderer
>>542360331> refusing to accept Clancey is not guiltyThis mindset is telling. They apparently don't even comprehend that guilt never exists as such, that it's not a fact but always a judgment, an interpretation only.It's them who refuse to even think about it. They don't have the courage. The want her to be innocent so badly. They may also not have the mental faculties.
>>542360499see >>542361770
>>542360331It's a win-win for the dissenting juror. Mistrial is called and he basically garauntees he will never serve on a jury again. Based
>>542361174its not about the threat, its about punishing her for murdering her 3 kids.
>>542361174>>542360863Is this true? If Lindsay Clancy gets out, there's gonna be an epidemic of copycats.
>>542361893he is also a national hero and millions of Americans would buy him a beer
>>542360563Polluting the future jury pool. If you don't pick the "correct" verdict we will harass you.
>>542360487>she would had spent the rest of her life institutionalized.mass shut down its asylums, she'd walk free in a week.
>>542361922It's basically making postpartum abortion legal. At least one guy had the balls and power to stop this insanity even if temporarily. They will put in a new jury, with all of the men being beta s_0_i_s to get her off the hook. In the mean time the holdout will be doxxed and suicided.
>>542361174Toddlers cant crawl very fast
>>542362141That'd fly for maybe a year or two before the 19th is repealed and women lose all their rights.
>>542361625see>>542360990retard
>>542362326It's cute that people still believe in pendulum theory
>>542361147>we are too retarded to understand how thing worksi know anon, i know.
>>542362327You're a complete and utter moron, and have no idea how the system works.
So it was really 1 man on that jury against 11 women.
>>542361770I believe in natural law, and I disagree that guilt is subjective. She violated the property rights of others and is liable for her actions. This can be treated as objective insofar as we accept argumentation as such.
>>542362378This is more than politics. Normies will do it.
>>542362398>drunk aussi think he know how the us system workskek
>>542362326>Constitutional amendments can be repealed in the jewSACapital cope
>>542362395>how thing workshow it works is that anyone who doesn't believe in it can just refuse to consider it in the jury room. You're a literal retard
>>542360331he has that white leftists look like the type of guy who joins the animal liberation front (ALF) or antifa.like the lead singer of rise against.
>>542360487I would accept it as long as the institution is managed by nurse Ratched
>>542360487She would’ve been released after a few years and done it again like that Fisher woman in the 70s
>>542360331I HOPE SHE SEES YOUR INTERVIEW BRO!!!
>>542362509and evidently I know far better than you, idiot.
>>542362520>Lindsay Clancy gets out, women start strangling their children en masse, normies get spooped and angered, candidate in 2028 or 2032 starts running on an anti-feminist platformIt could happen.
once a femoid gets a taste for human blood, you can't let them run free. Every civilized man knows this.
>>542362570>melting down because i saw right through you>>542362684>implying she wasn't gonna have a light sentence if found guiltykek
At the end of the day the lone holdout could have really believed that she was guilty and sane so he did his job correctly. I don't know why so many are getting bent out of shape over this. If it was a guy on the dock, they would be out for his blood and bashing on the jurors who found him not guilty. They don't want you to make assumptions on the defendant but at the same time made several, serious un-informed assumptions about the holdout. What a bunch of hypocrites.
>>542362771I don't trust anything from a nation that lost to a bunch of birds
>>542362910jeet detected
>>542362959Nobody cares what you trust, you're a literal 40-IQ moron who wants a child murderer to be declared not guilty. You're a worthless little moron.Hopefully you die soon.
>>542362966>if i accuse you of being a jeet, you can't turn it back on mekek
>>542363031That's some big words from the penal colony, i'm impressed
>>542361174>Like Greg Abbott, Lindsay Clancy stands with Israel.
>>542360331>bunch of weak men and dykes all in a rush to get out of jury duty>JUST SAY SHE'S INSANE SO WE CAN GOOOO AWWWW GOD DAMN IT FAGGOT WE WANNA GO HOME HOOOOMsomething terribly wrong with the court system that encourages people to make rushed poor decisions.
>>542361174NOBODY GIVES A SHIT IF SHE'S A THREAT YOU WORTHLESS FUCKING NIGGERthis is about PUNISHMENT
>>542360331Up to now, not ONE OTHER juror has mentioned "choking the bottle".He looks like a virgin to me.
>>542360563All I've seen so far is them being retarded>You have to have have reasonable proof that she was sane! Prove her sanity right now!>He didn't provide any quotes for me, how can he do that? We brought his statements to the judge to try to get him kicked out.>Yeah, there was audible yelling from the jury pool. Some juries just get heated, tee-hee.It's like every jury drama all put into one, one angry chud.
>>542363044you're a literal retard and every response is nonsensical. You appear to get a sick pleasure out of shitting up the thread. Obvious jeet
>>542360331Can I get an early life check
>>542363080>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>542363217>bloody fucking you fucking saaaaarfunny how you accuse me of shitting up the thread when all you had to do was stop replying
>>542361323>Correct in MAMA follows the supreme laws of the land, therefore she's guilty.
>>542362450I wouldn't be surprised if the other male juror came out with a propeller hat and steven universe shirt in his interview
>>542360331BETA!!!
>>542363269>jeet logic
>>542360331YOURE HONOR MY CLIENT IS A W*MEN NGRI CASE DISMISSED
>>542361922being found insane after killing your kids is not a new thing. This guy strangled his kid and was found to be not guilty by reason of insanity: >MARION, Iowa (KCRG) - A Marion man found not guilty by reason of insanity for strangling his son to death will remain at a mental health institute, a judge has ruled.https://www.kcrg.com/2026/07/15/father-found-not-guilty-young-sons-death-remain-mental-health-facility/
>>542364186LOCK HIM UP!INSANITY IS NOT A DEFENSE PERIOD
That guy looks like he has worn a suspender belt at least once.
>>542364186>Google this>It's just a leftoid talking point, no further information about why he was found not guiltySorry, doesn't work like this. I have the internet same as you do and I looked it up.There's just no information to determine whether these cases are even similar at all, and your linked article also doesn't make any such claims.I did google it and see this was a plebbit talking point, though. Read that, they also didn't publish any specifics about him.>>542364247Stop listening to popscience and popjournalism. Slave.
>>542361901but she already punished herself.she lost her kids and crippled herself and her life is ruined anyway. i don't care what happens next and not sure why everyone is so riled up on both sides.
>>542360331
>>542364526>she lost her kidsawww poor lady how did she lose her kids?
>>542364495Why are you saying they aren't similar at all? I think you didn't do much research.>Defense attorneys argued Schleier was suffering from psychosis when he strangled his son, citing testimony from doctors, who said Schleier was suffering from multiple mental illnesses, had delusions that his son was doomed to die a horrible death due to the child’s food allergies, and took his son’s life to protect him from this fate. https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-courts-matthew-schleier-not-guilty-sons-murder-insanity/71142494
>>542364495>There's just no information to determine whether these cases are even similar at all, and your linked article also doesn't make any such claims.actually, you should have paid more attention to the article. It links to previous articles on their site with more information:https://www.kcrg.com/2026/04/27/verdict-expected-today-matthew-schleier-murder-case/>Schleier’s lawyers argue Schleier was suffering from psychosis when he strangled his son, citing testimony from doctors.https://www.kcrg.com/2026/02/21/more-experts-testify-about-psychosis-diagnosis-murder-trial-marion-father/
>>542364716>>542364836>He just posts the same shit againyeah so nothing.
>>542364887so what are you saying the difference is?
>>542364965You claimed they were the same. Your entire claim is substantiated by like 3 lines of text.There's nothing here. This might work on plebbit or something but it doesn't work here.
>>542360563It certainly sets a bad precedent. A mistrial should've been declared the moment that roastie head juror started talking shit and revealing info from jury deliberations. Its juror-intimidation-by-proxy. She should've been held in contempt of court. Instead the judge just goes "teehee, you made an uh-oh, dont do it again :)"
>>542364526>she lost her kidsThat's really passive language to describe how she murdered her three young children.Anon she's a murderer trying to weasel her way out of prison. She deserves to be sentenced and locked up her her crime of murdering multiple young children. It's not rocket science.
>>542364679a demon possessed her. it feels like a murderer broke into her house and murdered her kids. that's how she must feel now.
>He tied the exercise band around a water bottle! “Did he explain why?”>No..uhh…well…he might have…but it’s like…shocking The biggest blackpill of this entire thing is that they seem to have genuinely by chance selected a jury from the population where 11 out of 12 people were actual drooling subhuman retards
>>542365176>>542365192this is how i see it
>>542360402Yeah, OP sure is choking on cock with this one, no webm, no link, not a fucking thing.
>>542361625This. Also they let actually insane niggers out of asylums to roam the streets and murder white people because of muh white privilege and muh socioeconomic conditions. They're not gonna keep a femoid in an asylum, especially when all she did was a postpartum abortion of some betabux genetic issue.
>>542361174Look at all the theatrics of the defense and tell me she can't walk lol
>>542365093>You claimed they were the same.No, I said >>542364186>being found insane after killing your kids is not a new thing. This guy strangled his kid and was found to be not guilty by reason of insanity:What sort of specifics do you even want?
>>542360563The women did it for attention, this guy is doing it so people don’t think he’s the holdout. The media shouldn’t be giving any of them a platform, it’s unethical.
>>542360331You know, this made me just recently consider the mother of an acquaintance's kid i know. The mother is in prison for life and in a wheelchair, I believe either because of a drunk driving crash that killed someone else or something. Even the kid knows her mom belongs there and is only like 13. I doubt a jury deliberated much at all for that case and the child was an infant then.
>>542365313This is just the leftist thing where they pretend to not understand you repeatedly.>>542364716>Why are you saying they aren't similar at all? I think you didn't do much research.This shit doesn't work here, I just linked to a post with something you said. Too bad.
>>542361174>She’s not gonna be much of a threatSo? The point of a legal system should be that if you kill children you should be shot in the head by the state and dumped in an unmarked grave so that everyone knows what happens when you act like an animal. It doesn’t matter if she is a threat going forward.
>>542360487she's a psychopath and narcissist all right. Psychosis is bullshit
>>542361323They met the burden in that document she knew it was wrong and planned it out to do it as she knew her husband would stop her (because it's wrong)Very simple case even a cardboard cutout prosecutor should be able to lock her up. It's just social contagion + female wackadoos that has the jury hung
>>542364716This is an actual delusion and follows with psychosis though>he had a delusion, a false belief >every other act was rational and competent, but around the delusional false belief>it was done out of compassion, logically flowing from the delusion Clancy however>a male voice commanded me to and I didn't recall this until speaking with my defense attorney for the first time>just to 'save them' nothing specific
This guy looks exactly how i expected him to. Ie, his favourite sex position is cameraman
>>542360487Liberals are so fucking annoying. We all know that she would get released after like 1 year. She deserves to rot in prison forever
>>542365389You said they weren't similar here:>>542364495>There's just no information to determine whether these cases are even similar at all, and your linked article also doesn't make any such claims.What are you saying the difference is? and what kind of details do you want?
>>542365562she heard the voice before then:>Lindsay Clancy heard voices telling her to kill children weeks before deaths, lawsuit sayshttps://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/lindsay-clancy-lawsuit-hallucinations-murder-trial-22388863.phpThe article says:>According to an amended version of the lawsuit she filed on June 8, Lindsay Clancy began having "auditory hallucinations" after she was prescribed Seroquel, an anti-psychotic drug also used for depression, on Nov. 29, 2022. She initially thought the hallucinations were "intrusive thoughts," the lawsuit said.
>>542365661>She deserves to rot in prison forevershe won't, even if she was found guilty
>>542363883>recycling all the jeets images he received when found outthis isn't a designated shitting thread anon
>>542365776>(((Lawsuit says)))Yeah so no medical records
>>542360487Bullshit. She would have been out in less then 2 years after being judged “not a danger to society”
>>542365745I want proof of your claims. I don't get why this is so confusing, you tried to draw a parallel here and you have to actually prove what you're saying.Because otherwise your entire post chain is a non-sequitur and there was no reason for it to be there.Now you're also further trying to prove that the cases are the same.What the fuck are you actually talking about, retard? I can see all your other posts in this thread.
>>542365857They know this but are just playing dumb. It’s weird how little they care for the lives of children
>>542360331his combover is not convincing
>>542360487>the rest of her life institutionalized.no. she could walk free as soon as the doctors said she was "cured"
>>542365892You clearly don't like news articles. What kind of proof is satisfactory for you?
>>542366035>I'm not claiming that, I'm only linking an article>Next post it's literally your claim>Go back to "I'm not claiming that">What do you mean exactly?>Is a boneless link to an article not enough proof of my statement, which I also just now claimed that I wasn't making?This is the thing where leftists pretend not to understand what you're saying, I don't know why this is such a common tactic, it never works.
>>542365776Yet she didn't say anything to anyone until first speaking to her defense counsel? I thought the arguemnt was in part the medical system failed her? A patient that lies can't be treated. >amended That means it was changed after initial filing.
>>542360487>she would had spent six months* institutionalized
>>542365130this and the lawyer should be disbarred for speaking about a juror the way he did
>>542365857>>542365927>>542366020>>542366257>nooooooooooooo i'm an expert even if i never heard of this before(((the media))) talked about thislol, lmao even
>>542360990That's not how it works. Massachusetts requires to prove beyond a reasonable doubt every single annual review that a person is still criminally insane. She would have been released after her initial 6 months because her lawyer would argue that she is no longer suffering from PPD therefore the factor that produced her insanity is gone and she can no longer lawfully remain committed.
>>542361922There is already at least one copycat. A woman in Illinois hanged her two year old son last week. Left his body hanging for his siblings to find after school while she barely scratched her wrists upstairs pretending to be suicidal. She had just been texting a friend about the clancy case within two hours of committing the murder.
>>542366437Another in MA too
>>542366160What kind of proof do you want? Can you explain the issue with the evidence presented to you?In this post I said a man was found not guilty by reason of insanity >>542364186 and I linked to a news article that reported on the judge's ruling in his case. Are you saying this is not proof he was found insane by a court?
>>542365312https://youtu.be/d4VaY7xCmRE?is=LFkhUp9yEx1s5pfP
>>542360487>the rest of her life institutionalizedhe thinks loonies don't get out in a few years
>>542362395>doesn't understand jury nullificationDunning-Kruger case
>>542366160Your post here is the first one that uses the word similar in the entire thread: >>542364495You implied they weren't similar (with zero elaboration or research conducted).
>>542366558Repeating yourself is not an argument.>>542366160Read all of this right now and actually respond to it, why did you>Deny that you were making a claim>Later make that claim, literally immediately after>Go back to saying you weren't claiming it>Post a bunch of links as proofWhy do any of this? We can read your posts. Is there a reason you have to deliberately not understand what someone's saying?Even now you're pretending to not understand what I'm saying despite my posts all being in entirely clear and direct text.This isn't a debate, buddy.
>>542365313>being found insane after killing your kids is not a new thing. This guy strangled his kid and was found to be not guilty by reason of insanity:this suggests that the only issue here is that Clancy is seeking an insanity plea and is therefore the same as the example you brought up to support this suggestion. you didn't outright say it but you clearly communicated it and any attempt at pilpul doesn't work here, like the other anon said, because we don't care about your meely mouthed bullshit
Bitch made a decision, a conscious decision, knowing right from wrong and good from evil, and then chose to strangle pure innocence and made a calculated gamble that she would either wake up being protected by her flock or dead-- win win.
>>542360331Just like gaydar is a thing, I definitely of simpolocation.
>>542360487>she would had spent the rest of her life institutionalized.No she wouldn't, she could spend as little as 30 days in a mental institution.How mental institutions work is you see a shrink and the shrink signs a piece of paper says "you can leave now" and then you are free. The shrink would have been a pink shirt wearing feminist whore in this scenario.
>>542366395Ive studied neuroscience. I've worked with actual schizos and people suffering from psychotic episodes. I can tell you some truths- These things can come and go in waves, but if you had them once, there's a high chance you'll suffer more episodes in the future. - It's highly unlikely that someone deep inside a psychotic episode gets out of it without meds- Smarter schizos can play pretend and act cured while still holding the same underlying delusions.Anyway. I don't think she was psychotic at all. One of the first things she did was ask for a lawyer. People suffering from psychotic episodes get extremely paranoid. A psychotic person would never trust a lawyer.This was just an evil cunt doing a murder-suicide. Burying her alive would be the most appropriate punishment imho
>>542366847So, why is he saying this: >>542364495>There's just no information to determine whether these cases are even similar at all, There's a few obvious similarities if one just read the article (and what it links):They both strangled their child(ren).They pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.They both claimed to be suffering from psychosis.They claimed they had some delusion or hallucination encouraging them to kill their childrenIf these are not what he wishes to compare, then he should elaborate on what he thinks possible differences would be.
>>542366859>made a calculated gambleNo, her problem was precisely that she did not calculate. Specifically the height of her second story window. She never anticipated being seriously injured. The cuts, the thing she had direct control over, were superficial and non-life threatening. That's one thing her copycats have improved on. They have stopped at tickling themselves with a knife. That's sufficient for convincing subhumans like the zogbot in the OP without the risk of landing wrong and getting paralyzed.
>>542367089>If I give you breadcrumbs will you make me meatballs?Why, if you wanted to make a comparison, was all of this not in your first post instead of just a link?Why did you also say a couple posts ago that none of this was what you were arguing in the first place?You've gone from saying you didn't claim this, to now claiming it directly, and you also say that you provided all necessary information to make said claims in the first post but you're actually now 13 posts into said thread and you've just started substantiating what you're saying (poorly, as there's no actual substance here still)
>>542367089Not guilty by reason of insanity is a retarded concept, but you are a lying jew rat for trying to equate basically any attempt at that defense with clancy's. Almost no one leaves as much documentation that they are entirely lucid while murdering as she did. Random gang drivebys have more legitimate arguments for an insanity defense than clancy.
>>542366764>Is there a reason you have to deliberately not understand what someone's saying?You are the one who is failing to understand anything.Is there a reason you refuse to answer any of my questions?>>542366558>>542366035
>>542360331That phenotype says it all
>>542364526She wasn't punishing herself, she was trying to escape punishment and failed.
>>542360331>25>looks like he's 46why are zoomers aging like absolute shit?
>>542360331He looks like the type of guy that eats a snickers bar upside down so he can feel the veins on his tongue.
>>542367450Your "questions" are just you repeatedly pretending to not understand something, typical leftist shit.And I'm gonna say no, you understand exactly what I'm saying and it's right there in clear, direct text. Anyone can understand it immediately when they read it.Those posts of yours you linked are literally just you repeatedly pretending not to understand something.
>>542360331Why does he look concerned for his life throughout the entire interview?
>>542367490Well, that one has apparently been eating a diet comprised entirely of a certain asian bean. So he may not be a representative sample.
If she found not guilty by the reason of insanity, would the American justice system views her as innocent for killing her 3 children?I'm using the word IF here.
>>542360331Nobody cares except for this >>542360487 faggot who doesn't matter.
>>542360402what a combover!
>>542367598No one knows anything about how our jewish legal system works, not even the fucking jews.
>>542367585He is publicly expressing his support for a woman who strangled her three very young children to death in an act of premeditated murder. I should hope he is afraid.
>>542367585He’s literally doing it so people (if you can extend that label to women) won’t think he’s the holdout, he’s scared of death threats.
>>542360487A lesser punishment than jail, but doesn't change the fact she did triple premeditated infanticide. Ironically, right now she's scot off free and if she doesn't get a retrial, then it will be as if she got a not guilty verdict.
Jurys should be anonymous
>>542360331BETA
>>542367598I think it would have set the precedent that womens hormones prevent them from being legally responsible for their actions, meaning they need a legal guardian at all times and setting woments rights back 150 years.It would have been hilarious to see
>>542367564 >>542367349>(poorly, as there's no actual substance here still)This is a very simple question: What's the information that you feel is lacking? What is it that you want to know?
>>542368072Yeah you're still doing it. I don't know what you expect to get from this but it doesn't work here.
>>542361922>there's gonna be an epidemic of copycatsIt's already starting.
>>542367887They should, that’s why I think it’s unethical for the media to be giving them a platform.
>>542368133If you aren't trolling then you are totally fucking retarded.
>>542360331This whole thing is about as real as the sandy hook situation. Its beyond absurd and so insulting to the few people left that can think for themselves.
>>542363171truewatch her spend the rest of her life as a normal sane woman, given reprieve for a triple fucking murder because of made up woman reasons.travesty of justice.
>>542367564But how jews enter this equation?
>>542362141>It's basically making postpartum abortion legal.It already is. What do you think SIDS is, other than a paper thin excuse for women who murder their newborns?
>>542367887No, juries should be elite men
>>542368521Thing is that it doesn't work.
>>542368133>>542368521>If you aren't trolling then you are totally fucking retarded.Let me explain why I am saying this. A poster that isn't retarded would have been able to explain what their issue with the information is or what they wanted to know or see.If you didn't like the source, you could have said something like "I don't like that news website".If you don't want to read a report on a news website, you could have asked if the court documents or a video of the trial was available.If you wanted the name of the court case, you could have asked for that.If you wanted to see a specific court document, such as the judge's ruling, you could have mentioned that.If you wanted more information about the defendant's mental health history, you could have asked for that.If you wanted more information about what the doctors in the trial said about the defendant, then you could have asked for that.If you wanted to know if he saw a doctor, went to a hospital, or had other health issues, you could have asked about that.If you wanted information about what medication he was on, you could have asked if any was available.. The articles I linked do give a decent amount of detail about the case, so I have no way of knowing what you want to know, unless you tell me.
>>542369271>Let me explainNo. You used up your good faith about 10 posts ago and you have nothing left. Now I have a paragraph of seethe text.How is it that every single other poster understood what I was saying, and they even said such, but you couldn't understand? It's not complicated, I said it in plain text repeatedly.The conclusion is that you're either MASSIVELY RETARDED and brown, or you understand what I'm saying exactly. The odds of a retard of this level knowing how to use an imageboard is surprisingly low.
>>542369271>The articles I linked do give a decent amount of detail about the caseFor instance this article I linked:>>542364836>https://www.kcrg.com/2026/02/21/more-experts-testify-about-psychosis-diagnosis-murder-trial-marion-father/I'll post some of the article here:>CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (KCRG) - Three expert witnesses have said Matthew Schleier experienced psychosis at the time of killing his son during their testimony in his first-degree murder trial.>Schleier’s lawyer is using an insanity defense in the trial for strangling his five-year-old son, Jack. He killed his son on the morning of Oct. 29, 2024.>Closing arguments are expected to take place on Monday. There is no jury as it is a bench trial and the judge is not expected to provide a verdict immediately.>Dr. Daniel Tranel, who runs a neuropsychology clinic at UIHC and teaches at the University of Iowa, testified this morning.>He says Schleier experienced anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorder, along with severe major depressive disorder with psychotic features, at the time he killed his son.>He said Schleier had a break from reality with delusions that his children’s extreme food allergies would lead to their deaths.>This psychosis diagnosis was consistent with an Ames psychologist who testified Thursday and a Chicago psychiatrist’s opinion as well.>“How did Mr. Schleier exhibit those psychotic features?” asked defense attorney Leon Spies.>“In his firm belief that his children would be better off dead because of their food allergies and inability to control those and the high risk they would have to perishing from food allergies if not killed,” said Dr. Tranel.>All three experts said Schleier was not able to distinguish between right and wrong at the time he killed Jack.>Schleier’s attorney is using an insanity defense. Distinguishing between an action being right or wrong is one of the mandates to prove that defense in Iowa code.
>>542369271If you weren't a dishonest kike, you wouldn't have ignored my reply to you explaining exactly what the other anon's grievance is.
>>542369525>>https://www.kcrg.com/2026/02/21/more-experts-testify-about-psychosis-diagnosis-murder-trial-marion-father/>I'll post some of the article here:Continued:>Expert witnesses explain symptoms of psychotic depression>Both Dr. Tranel and the psychiatrist who practices in Chicago, Dr. Lauren Robinson, spoke about why no one recognized the homicidal thoughts Schleier experienced before killing his son.>Dr. Tranel said Schleier “doesn’t present as someone who looks at risk for homicide” and said he thought mental health care providers would be more focused on his suicidal risk in the month before Jack’s death.>Dr. Robinson explained that academic literature supports that hiding symptoms in a psychotic depression is “extremely common.” Schleier’s psychotic delusions of his children dying a horrible death due to their allergies and wanting to give them an easier death impaired his life to the point of taking medical leave and not being able to parent, she said.>“On the surface, [worries about the kids’ allergies] can seem reasonable and a real thing to be concerned about. But you scratch underneath the surface, there lies the delusion... The literature supports that it’s frequently missed by clinicians,” said Dr. Robinson. “I think Matthew was very ashamed of his thoughts because it was completely incongruent with what he was. He loved his children. These were horrifying thoughts.“>Dr. Robinson said his level of mental health decline is an “emergency” level.>“You need to be [in] inpatient [care], you need to be inpatient for weeks,” she said.>Schleier and his wife went to UnityPoint Health - St. Luke’s Hospital seeking treatment for his suicidal thoughts on Oct. 5 - weeks before his son’s death.>His admission was denied because Schleier did not have specific plans to take his own life, according to his wife’s testimony from earlier in the week, which media was not allowed to record.
>>542360331It’s pretty obvious from the evidence that Clancy had a psychotic break and tried to kill herself.Her husband found her incoherent and, sensing opportunity, strangled his kids to frame her for the crime, and start his new life fresh.The only reason /pol/ refuses to see this is because they don’t have sex.
>>542369525>>542369592last part of that article:>She said the hospital also discouraged them from seeking treatment for her husband’s mental health at Mercy Medical Center.>They told her “the system is broken.”>The prosecution argued in opening statements that Schleier had thought about killing his children for weeks and that he knowingly chose to kill his son and did not alert anyone else.>The prosecution cross-examined Dr. Robinson, pressing her on records of Schleier’s meetings with medical providers in the weeks before his son’s death which read “No Homicidal Ideation” (HI).>Dr. Robinson said the providers didn’t actually do a violence or homicide risk assessment, calling the label of No HI “rote” and a “copy-forward” 90% of the time.>“Unfortunately, a lot of people miss it, a lot of people don’t ask about it,” she said, citing Schleier’s lack of violence history prior to killing his son.>When the state continued to press, she said she was making an “educated guess” and emphasized her experience with records. the article also links to more of their previous reporting:
>>542369644>the article also links to more of their previous reporting:https://www.kcrg.com/2026/02/19/testimony-continues-third-day-marion-fathers-murder-trial/
Beta Male Epidemic kek!!
>>542360331Kek how many kikes did they plant on this jury?
>>542367416>>542369532What evidence of her sanity are you referring to?
>>542369644>He just goes on posting the entire articleLel, he gets mad and does all this instead of actually posting what we've all been asking for for like 40 posts already.I honestly do not get why they think this works, it can't be that they're just this retarded, right? That's not possible.>>542369532Yeah, thing is that he's even ignoring what I post, he ignored it so hard he had to dump an entire news article instead of actually responding to a literal single thing I said.It has to be some kind of mental illness at this point, good thing he doesn't have kids.
Holy shit, it's actually trying to play dumb about this.
>>542369592>>Dr. Robinson explained that academic literature supports that hiding symptoms in a psychotic depression is “extremely common.” Schleier’s psychotic delusions of his children dying a horrible death due to their allergies and wanting to give them an easier death impaired his life to the point of taking medical leave and not being able to parent, she said.This is similar to how Lindsay clancy didn't mention all of her symptoms and thoughts to doctors.>>Schleier and his wife went to UnityPoint Health - St. Luke’s Hospital seeking treatment for his suicidal thoughts on Oct. 5 - weeks before his son’s death.>>His admission was denied because Schleier did not have specific plans to take his own life, according to his wife’s testimony from earlier in the week, which media was not allowed to record.This is similar to how lindsay clancy was turned away from a suicide hotline: https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/lindsay-clancy-turned-away-twice-after-calling-crisis-line/
I hope the lone juror sues the shit out of everyone if his identity is leaked and his boomer employer "can't hold onto him anymore". Fuck I hope he bankrupts all of them and they have to slave away in the hot sun like niggers for the rest of their lives.
>>542360487>she would had spent the rest of her life institutionalized.That's not how it works dumbass this isn't some movie or something where they are put in a padded room for life. She can be released at any time once the doctors think she has gotten "better".
>>542361323>>542369686One notable procedural difference from the lindsay clancy case, is that this case took place in iowa where the burden of proof in the insanity defense lies on defendant:https://www.legis.iowa.gov/DOCS/IACODE/2001/701/4.html
>>542360487>she would had spent the rest of her life institutionalized.Not guaranteed. They could easily declare her cured and no longer a threat in a few years or a decade and she finds some simp to pay for IVF treatments so she could have more kids to murder. In a just world she'd spend the rest of her life rimming her Shaniqua cell mate after every dump in state prison.
>>542369686>https://www.kcrg.com/2026/02/19/testimony-continues-third-day-marion-fathers-murder-trial/posting this article since it's relevant:>CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (KCRG) - A psychologist said she believes Matthew Schleier was not able to distinguish right from wrong at the time he killed his son during day three of his murder trial.>Schleier’s attorney is using an insanity defense. Distinguishing right from wrong is one of the mandates to prove a defense of insanity in Iowa code.>The other is knowing the nature and quality of the act, which clinical psychologist Dr. Tracy Thomas said Schleier was capable of doing.>Multiple witnesses testified Thursday morning for the defense in the first-degree murder trial of Schleier. Thursday is the third day in court.>Schleier admitted to planning his 5-year-old son’s death before strangling him in the morning hours of Oct. 29, 2024.>Dr. Thomas told the court Thursday that Schleier was experiencing a “psychiatric emergency.” She diagnosed him with obsessive-compulsive disorder, anxiety, and major depressive disorder - which is a more severe version of depression.>She said he was in a state of psychosis and experiencing irrational delusions about Jack’s food allergies at the time he killed his son.>Dr. Thomas explained that according to her observations, Schleier was convinced at a delusional level that he was not able to protect his children from their food allergies - and that it was not if they would die from their allergies, but when.>“He gets this idea in his head that the only way to save these children is to give them a death now, which I can control, and they will go to heaven and be at peace and not have to fight these allergies anymore,” Dr. Thomas said. “When he gets that thought in his head, there’s no way for him to out-think it, there’s no way for him to think around it, to do anything different, and that’s how we end up with him strangling Jack.”
>>542370129continued:>Dr. Thomas also addressed the state’s arguments that Schleier had responded in the affirmative to questions about knowing he was killing his son and losing his freedom.>She said Schleier saying yes to questions during police interviews was him trying to explain his own irrational thoughts to rational people - and that he was beginning to understand the repercussions as he sat in the Marion police station.>At the beginning of her testimony, the state objected to admitting Dr. Thomas’s report as evidence, citing previous case law. The defense said the state had been fine with the report in previous email correspondence.>The judge, David Cox of the Sixth District, reviewed the cited case law and agreed to not admit the report for now, but said he was “clearly not” happy with the state’s actions. He said he had “ethical concerns” with the state’s conduct that he would look into later.Friend and sister testify for the defense>Schleier’s friend, Dr. Nabeel Yehyawi, who was the best man in his wedding, spoke in court Thursday morning.>Yehyawi said he noticed something was off when Schleier cancelled plans in the months before killing his son.>“He had said, ‘I’m really sorry, I can’t go with you,’ and I expected something had come up, and he said ‘I’m on a new medication, I’m adjusting to this medication and I’m trying to... I really think it has a chance to help me,’” Yehyawi recounted. “That was, that may have been the last time I had a conversation with Matt prior to the tragedy.”>The court also heard from Schleier’s sister, Emily, who was staying with his family at the time to provide assistance. She said her brother was not in his right mind, and that it was not until after his arrest that he got the help he needed for his mental health.
>>542369935They are all, presumably, in Massachusetts. So someone could just shoot them and claim a temporary first time ever period of psychosis supported by no evidence prior to, during, or after the murder. And they'd still have a stronger case for insanity than clancy.
>>542370129>>542370166cont:>“It’s not been until he’s been incarcerated that he had a proper diagnosis and is back to healthy,” Emily Schleier testified. “I believe that because Matt didn’t get the care he needed — for example, the ER visit when he was turned away — I believe that Jack is a victim of our broken mental healthcare system.">Schleier’s wife and father previously told the court that Schleier had gone to Unity Point - Saint Luke’s for suicidal thoughts but was not admitted because he did not have a specific plan.>During video interviews between Schleier and investigators, Schleier said he didn’t think about the consequences of killing his son until he was sitting in the jail cell.>He also said that he thought his son would be better off because of his extreme food allergies.>The trial is set to conclude Friday.>Since this is a bench trial, the judge will decide the verdict instead of a jury, but that decision is not expected to be announced this week.
>>542370048Even in your meltdowns you have to also post the same jewish misinfo you posted earlier, too.This is just absurd, we need to wipe out this entire evil race (genetically evil, even)
>>542360331Knew this guy in high school. AMA
>>542361025Only every psychiatrist that interviewed her right after the murders said she wasn't insane. She admitted to knowing killing her kids was wrong to these shrinks. She didn't start lying about hearing voices til she hired Reddington and he coached her. The wino harpies made this simp overlook the most critical facts of the case and now he is spouting off like a retard who didn't even follow the trial.
>>542360331love moids pretending to care about children
>>542360331The guy looks like he was casturated by the women jurors while in that room or maybe he was casturated before going in. He just gives off that look of being impotent and weak plus any morals he might have is easily set aside by others as evident in the Lindsay Clancy courtcase.
>>542370168She heard voices before the murders:>>542365776 She told her family she was worried she'd hurt her children:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/17/lindsay-clancy-trial-mother-witness-testimony>Clancy, Musgrove testified to the court in Plymouth, Massachusetts, had asked if she could sleep in her mother’s bed and told her she felt the medication she had been prescribed for postpartum depression were “destroying” her mind.>Musgrove also disclosed that on one occasion her daughter had approached her and Lindsay’s former husband, Patrick Clancy, and said: “I want to tell you guys something”.>“She said she had thoughts of harming the children,” Musgrove testified.https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/01/us/lindsay-clancy-trial-patrick-testimony>Lindsay Clancy’s “big spiral” began when she started taking a new antipsychotic medication around early December 2022, her ex-husband testified. Around that time, she told him she was suicidal and had “intrusive thoughts” about harming the children, he said.>“She described thoughts of hurting the kids or them having some sort of ailment,” he said, adding he wasn’t concerned for their safety because she didn’t show “any intention” of harming them.She also told her doctors about suicidal thoughts and that the meds were making her loopy:>The month before she killed her three children, Lindsay Clancy sent a flurry of messages to a psychiatric nurse practitioner, warning she had “intrusive thoughts” about suicide and feared they were caused by new medications, according to testimony Tuesday in Plymouth Superior Courthttps://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/08/11/metro/lindsay-clancy-day-11-court-testimony-jollotta/
>>542370199Was he as much of a faggot back then or is this a recent development?
>>542370195>Even in your meltdowns you have to also post the same jewish misinfo you posted earlier, too.A link to laws on the official Iowa government website is "jewish misinfo"?
>>542370199was he always a bitch?
>>542360331His wife won’t even fuck him. Yet she fucks niggers in front of him. Poor cuck.
>>542369109Most juries are composed of people too idiotic to get out of jury duty. Let that sink in.
>>542361025>like>like>likeYou can tell what a fucking fruitcake this person is.
>>542370266>She heard voices before the murders:That's a lie Reddington told her to tell to the shrinks after she had already admitted to everything including having known that killing them was wrong.
>>542370306Good on you for linking it again and arguing again so everyone here can once again see that it's obvious misinfo.Thing is we don't even need to read it or whatever slop you just posted, we can tell from whatever you're doing that you're jewish.
>>542370129>>Schleier admitted to planning his 5-year-old son’s death before strangling him in the morning hours of Oct. 29, 2024.This is somewhat similar to how in the lindsay clancy case she was able to plan out the homicide of her children.>>542370166>>“He had said, ‘I’m really sorry, I can’t go with you,’ and I expected something had come up, and he said ‘I’m on a new medication, I’m adjusting to this medication and I’m trying to... I really think it has a chance to help me,’” Yehyawi recounted. “That was, that may have been the last time I had a conversation with Matt prior to the tragedy.”This is similar to how lindsay reported issues after getting on new medications.>>542370189>>Schleier’s wife and father previously told the court that Schleier had gone to Unity Point - Saint Luke’s for suicidal thoughts but was not admitted because he did not have a specific plan. Lindsay also tried to go to a mental health hospital at one point, but she didn't stay there very long: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/lindsay-clancy-trial-spotlights-psychiatric-hospital-stay-before-she-killed-her-3-children
>>542370290>>542370313He was always a faggot, even back then. My friend has him added on Steam and he only plays hentai visual novels
Are these threads started by bots and replied to by bots?
>>542370199How do we know that your picture from the same state, and it is actually the same guy and not just someone who happens to share the same name?
>>542370266>She heard voices before the murders:No, she provably did not. Because she never once mentioned it until after speaking to her lawyer. Who she requested before asking about her children, by the way.She also didn't take any of the medications she claimed had these effects on her while she doctor shopped for benzos.
>>542370343LOL this, your freedom hinges on idiots or hysterical women who only care about muh feels. In regards to women jurors I'm not joking either, if you aren't over there blubbering your brains out over the things you are accused of doing but just sitting there knowing you are innocent women will say you are guilty because you weren't expressing the emotions they wanted to see. Allowing women jurors was one of the biggest injustices in human history, they don't care about facts or the truth they only care about feelings and how you express them in the moment.
>>542370266There's no written evidence she was hearing voices beforehand. Also "intrusive thoughts" don't mean fucking anything when nearly 100% of the population has intrusive thoughts. Everything she is describing is depressive, not psychosis. Learn what psychosis is.
>>542370217>Only every psychiatrist that interviewed her right after the murders said she wasn't insane.I'm pretty sure all of the prosecution psychiatrists saw her months afterwards, not right afterwards.>>542370941>There's no written evidence she was hearing voices beforehand.>>542370582>No, she provably did not. Because she never once mentioned it until after speaking to her lawyer. That doesn't mean she didn't have those symptoms. For the other case:>>542369592>Dr. Robinson explained that academic literature supports that hiding symptoms in a psychotic depression is “extremely common.”
>>542369802>Lel, he gets mad and does all this instead of actually posting what we've all been asking for for like 40 posts already.You're so mad that you can't even spell out what you are asking about.
>>542370941She was even vague with the intrusive thoughts. People act like she expressed homicidal ideation to her family (after you get them to admit she never mentioned anything about harming her kids to a single one of her doctors). But she never did. Intrusive thoughts about harming your children can be thoughts about accidentally dropping them or leaving them in a hot car, which are completely normal things for parents to be afraid of and have intrusive thoughts about.
>>542360990They give her a couple kids in a locked room and see how it plays out
>>542365192It sounds like she got jewed out of having living kids. I'll give you two options, we persecute jews for these deaths or we find her guilty of murdering her kids. No hard feelings, we all understand!
>>542371097Did that and zero response so far.Every other anon who has replied understood what I wanted, you are seemingly the only one who didn't.
>>542364526She should be stabbed daily with pins and not be allowed to fall asleep
>>542371191>Did that and zero response so far.Where?
>>542371257Strange that every single other anon understands and you thought that the answer was to post several news article's text directly into the thread.
>>542371312So what are you talking about? Are you talking about this?>>542367416>Almost no one leaves as much documentation that they are entirely lucid while murdering as she did.
>>542371061>That doesn't mean she didn't have those symptoms.Yes it does. Objectively. Irrefutably. There is no possible way that a person heard a voice command them to kill their children, they completely lost control of their body and whatever magical force possessed them killed their kids while they watched trapped in their own body (clancy's current claim) and, upon waking in the hospital they make no mention of it to anyone. But all of a sudden start talking about it after meeting with their defense attorney that they did talk about the moment they woke up.This isn't even a matter of reasonable doubt. clancy was lucid while she murdered her children beyond any doubt whatsoever. Her and her attorney's lies are so blatantly, insultingly obvious that even pretending to entertain them should be grounds for execution.
>>542371375>So what are you talking about?Why keep doing this?
>>542370465>he only plays hentai visual novelspathetic
>>542371391Attorney first, then jury members, then pink shirts. She can shit her wheelchair watching until last, like her 3rd child she strangled did while they watched their family be slaughtered.
>>542360331this practice of making a spectacle of the jurors after the case proves what a fucking farce this kiked out system is >vote the way you're supposed to (opposite of all reason) or we'll dox youthat's literally how this fake fucking justice system works. there is no justice. every single fucking judge needs to be burned alive
>>542371432It's a simple yes or no question. Does this following claim describe the issue you had with the comparison?>>542367416>Almost no one leaves as much documentation that they are entirely lucid while murdering as she did.
>>542371738The leftist thing where they just continuously pretend to not understand what you're saying, even now he has to keep asking the same question.
In the other Lindsay thread someone asked: how can a person in the middle of psychosis episode(killing her kids) managed to call back to her husband and talk to him normally?
>>542370465>he only plays hentai visual novelsActual h VNs or WEGs?
>>542371813Well you see it was actually the postpartum demon possessing her that made that call. And searched how long the father's trip would be and how to pretend to kill yourself and lied to all of her doctors. Anything bad she ever did? Postpartum demon.
>>542360331KEK!!!!!!!! That jewror is supposed to be this juror.
>>542371391>There is no possible way that a person heard a voice command them to kill their children, they completely lost control of their body and whatever magical force possessed them killed their kids while they watched trapped in their own body (clancy's current claim) and, upon waking in the hospital they make no mention of it to anyone. Why is it impossible for someone to hide symptoms? This guy, who as I mentioned was found NGRI, hid his symptoms:https://www.kcrg.com/2026/02/19/marion-father-trial-murder-son-following-downward-spiral-his-mental-health/>In those interviews, Schleier said he began thinking about killing his children after being prescribed Seroquel, an anti-psychotic drug, after his trip to the hospital in early October.>Schleier said he kept those thoughts to himself because they were scary - adding that he “screwed up” and that it was “all [his] fault.”I'll also note that she was unable to speak initially while at the hospital and was communicating via writing:https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/watch-live-lindsay-clancy-trial-day-5/>Clancy was still intubated, partially paralyzed from jumping out of her second-story bedroom window, and Dr. Biswas gave her paper to answer questions. She asked Clancy how her mood was that day.>"She wrote, 'horrified,'" Dr. Biswas testified. "She seemed very anxious."So that may have effected how much she talked at that point.
>>542371391>upon waking in the hospital they make no mention of it to anyoneI don't know if she mentioned it earlier, but she did mention the voices and motive while in the hospital to a chaplain:https://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/08/20/metro/lindsay-clancy-children-safe-voices/>Sheila Cavanaugh, a chaplain at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, told jurors that as she held Clancy’s hand on Jan. 31, 2023, to comfort her as she lay paralyzed in her hospital room, Clancy said, “I’m so glad that my children are safe.”>Cavanaugh said she responded “theologically,” telling Clancy, “Your children are safe. They are safe in heaven with God.” Then, Cavanaugh held Clancy’s hand as they prayed for her children.>Clancy confided that when she killed 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 8-month-old Callan on Jan. 24, 2023, she was hearing a male voice in her head that was “persistent” and “told her if she did not follow the command neither she nor her children would be safe,” Cavanaugh said.She woke up on jan 26th, 2023, 5 days earlier and was still hospitalized at that point.
>>542371785It's called concern trolling and it's because they are ideologically motivated retards who don't give two fucks about truth
>>542371813>In the other Lindsay thread someone asked: how can a person in the middle of psychosis episode(killing her kids) managed to call back to her husband and talk to him normally?>>542371971Testimony from the first psychiatrist who examined her in the hospital:https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/03/us/lindsay-clancy-trial-medical-testimony> On cross-examination, Shah agreed Clancy was an “honest” patient. She acknowledged a person can communicate and make plans while still being in a state of psychosis.
>>542371813That's crazy, isn't it? I guess you could say... insane, even? Heh, checkmate. Let her off with a slap on the wrist NOW.
>>542372453>It's called concern trolling and it's because they are ideologically motivated retards who don't give two fucks about truthok, so what is he asking for? Can you answer?
>>542360487Look up Constance Fisher. They are lying to you that she will be kept locked up in an insane asylum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HruOHtWjFPo
>>542360331he has the physiognomy of those dysgenic polygamous guys who are all dating one ugly fat bitch
>>542372292>Why is it impossible for someone to hide symptoms?Why are you a lying rat kike that pretends to be illiterate whenever it suits you?>>542372461>Shah agreed Clancy was an “honest” patient.So she's honest and you have to uncritically accept everything she says after she has formulated an insanity plea with the defense attorney that she asked about before showing any concern for her murdered children. But she's a dishonest untrustworthy liar every single instant prior to that when she never once said anything about any hallucinations or homicidal ideation of any kind.>a person can communicate and make plans while still being in a state of psychosisThey can also found to be sane for the purposes of a criminal prosecution while in a state of psychosis (which she has never been in for a single second in her entire life anyway). The details of her premeditation make it completely and wholly impossible to argue that she did not know right from wrong and had no control over her actions. That is the legal standard for insanity. And, by that standard, she was more lucid while choking her own children to death than her lawyer was when he committed jury tampering right there in front of a fucking judge.
>>542360487no, if she was found not guilty she would be released from the crazy house when she shows improvement, and seeing how the investigation by the court found she wasnt hearing voices or psychosis that would be quick, only a guilty verdict would keep her permanently away from society
>>542371785So what are you saying? Im not gonna read all these posts, so can you link to the post?
>>542367850This is if she is acquitted. People can be retired 2 or 3 times if it is a mistrial. This is why they are pissed. They have to go through at least another kangaroo court to get the verdict they want. One juror didn't do what he was supposed to do.
>>542373012No.It doesn't even matter what I'm saying, this was the whole point of him asking the same question literally 40 times in the thread.
>>542372891>They can also found to be sane for the purposes of a criminal prosecution while in a state of psychosis (which she has never been in for a single second in her entire life anyway). The details of her premeditation make it completely and wholly impossible to argue that she did not know right from wrong and had no control over her actions. That is the legal standard for insanity. And, by that standard, she was more lucid while choking her own children to death than her lawyer was when he committed jury tampering right there in front of a fucking judge.That's not what the standard for insanity is. The other guy found not guilty admitted that he was planning his son's death>>542370129>>Schleier admitted to planning his 5-year-old son’s death before strangling him in the morning hours of Oct. 29, 2024.
>>542373098what do you mean?
>>542372461Psychosis is a medical term describing a set of symptoms where an individual experiences a loss of contact with reality, making it difficult to distinguish between what is real and what is not.Look up carotid arteries days before and lured her husband out before the murder took place plus check out how long it would took him to drive around. Her psychosis was a week long?
>>542373352thanks this was the perfect demonstration of the tactic and its purpose.
>>542360487>she would had spent the rest of her life institutionalized.No, she will be released immediately because she stopped hearing voices once she killed her kids. Interdasting, innit?
>>542360563Money and/or fame, you retard.
>>542373420>>542373098I read through this whole thread and have almost no idea of what you wanted to know or of what your stance on that comparison is. It seems like you dont like asking questions, but you also don’t like answering them.
>>542373117>That's not what the standard for insanity is.Yes it fucking is. Now you're just directly and unambiguously denying objective facts. Hurry up and kill yourself, you worthless rat kike.
>>542367089>child(ren)1 CHILDREN 300 CHILDREN WITH METICULOUS PLANNING WHOS COUNTINGGIVE EM BOTH THE CHAIR HER FIRST
>>542373673Almost like this is the entire point of the leftist thing where they pretend to not understand.
>>542360331He's trying reeeallly fucking hard to get laid by a random foid. Going on TV and shit.
>>542360331"I was shocked"What a faggot beta cuck. Everyone but that one holdout was insane and should have never been in the jury. They all gang up on the one last sane man like he was the one strangling those children.
>>542373691>Yes it fucking is. Now you're just directly and unambiguously denying objective facts. Hurry up and kill yourself, you worthless rat kike.You can argue that it's a bad standard, but how am I denying objective facts? That guy admitted he planned to kill his son, he killed him, and he was found not guilty.Here's a another example, it's a lot more famous. The guy who attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan was found NGRI, and that was a premeditated attempt at murder: https://www.history.com/articles/ronald-reagan-attempted-assassination-john-hinckley-jodie-foster
>>542374114NGRI SHOULD NOT EXIST AT ALLIF THEIR ACTUALLY INSANE ITS EVEN MORE REASON TO TAKE EM OUTWHATS HER FACE HERE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOINGTRIPLE HOMICIDE LUCKY SHE AINT IN TEXAS
>>542360331The only thing shocking to me is that he would want to touch that evil fucking band. Obviously he was making a point and I understand that, but damn I would have bought my own band for a demonstration.
A normal, sane woman who was a loving mother but who then had a real moment of psychosis (assuming that actually exists), would be so horrified that she wouldn't be desperate to save her life or get free. Clancy didn't have to agree to this trial, did she? She's evil, and the people around her who indulge her and the jurors are also evil themselves or at least tools of evil.
>>542371785it'd be easier to just answer the question than repeating the same thought terminating cliche about leftists that you saw on twitter
>>542360331He's like that dude who refused to cast the deciding vote to convict King Louis XVI and his wife and children.Statues will be erected for him and torn down by women. He will lead the Men into a new golden age of patriarchy. Also he looks like Marco Rubio without the moustache
>>542374463she could choose to stay in the mental hospital after being found ngri. thats what andrea yates does.
>>542374490Retard
>>542361125Is that a yarmulka or the wheel arches of the car behind him?
>>542360331he looks like he's been eternally friendzoned
>>542360331>3 male jurors>1 old>1 young>1 blackeither the boomer or the black at this point
>>542374469Uhhhh see everyone understood it already, and this anon right here >>542373673demonstrated exactly why leftists do it.You already got your answer but you wanted to make discussion impossible.
>>542374573you wanted to make discussion impossible.
>>542361125>>542361632leave manlets out of this. that is a gay guy
>>542374611I'm not the one who got so mad he dumped multiple news articles directly into the thread with no commentary.
>>542374573>everyone understood it alreadyNo they didn't. If they understood it, then point to a single person who repeated what you meant.
>>542372052I said yesterday he was going to get doxxed any time now. Here we go
>>542374667I provided a lot commentary on the articles.
>>542374114>why won't you just accept by unabashed lies, you stupid filthy goy?Even clancy's own defense agrees that you're a lying rat kike. That's why they specifically coached her to claim that she was not in control of her actions for the exact period of time of the murders. We know this isn't true, of course, because she provided ample evidence of premeditation outside the window of this alleged period of psychosis. But it still demonstrates that they, at least, are aware of the legal standards for insanity. Which is not some vague appeal to mental illness.>b-but someone elseclancy was almost just found not guilty despite the fact that she has some of the most evidence of guilt and sanity of any child murderer in recorded human history. Your appeals to other miscarriages of justice that aren't even as egregious as this one are as meaningless as your own life.
>>542374679That green guy that you also didn't give an answer to.Ah ok this is you further pretending not to understand.>>542374721lmao
>>542374490>He's like that dude who refused to cast the deciding vote to convict King Louis XVI and his wife and children.shut up royalist filth. foids opposed the french revolution. read up on charlotte corday
>>542364526>not sure why everyone is so riled up on both sidesBecause nobody wants post-partum abortions to be accepted. Thats what its about.
>>542374738Look commentary on the articles:>>542369928>>542370464>>542372411
>>542374845>Said commentary is one line after a paragraph of slop text copy-pastedAh no wait this is just you further pretending not to understand what I'm saying.
>>542367474>she was trying to escape punishmentthe suicide attempt may have been performative, she half-assed it compared to what she did to her kids
>>542374727>Even clancy's own defense agrees that you're a lying rat kike. That's why they specifically coached her to claim that she was not in control of her actions for the exact period of time of the murders. We know this isn't true, of course, because she provided ample evidence of premeditation outside the window of this alleged period of psychosis. But it still demonstrates that they, at least, are aware of the legal standards for insanity. Which is not some vague appeal to mental illness.What am i lying about? If its the standard of the insanity defense, then provide evidence that I am wrong about it.>>b-but someone else>clancy was almost just found not guilty despite the fact that she has some of the most evidence of guilt and sanity of any child murderer in recorded human history. Your appeals to other miscarriages of justice that aren't even as egregious as this one are as meaningless as your own life.Are you arguing about what the insanity defense is? or are you arguing about what it should be?Calling those a miscarriage of justice is just you saying bad standard. You can criticize those standards, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong about what the standards are.
>>542370217>jeet psychiatristsThis doesn't raise any red flags for you?
>>542360487That isn't what acquitted means.
>>542375017>half-assed itShe coded. Did you miss that part?
>>542375017people typically have a hard time killing themselves. the cuts on her wrist were pretty bad: the cuts on her wrist were not shallow: https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/witness-offers-details-cuts-lindsay-150111930.html >A physician assistant who treated what he called “severe” cuts on Lindsay Clancy’s wrists in January 2023 took the stand at Clancy’s murder trial Wednesday morning, testifying about one of the case’s key issues — the gravity of her injuries. [...] >On the stand, Negri said he was assigned to repair the cuts on Clancy's wrists during his shift at Brigham and Women's Hospital on Jan. 25, 2023 — the day after Clancy's children were killed and she attempted to take her own life. Clancy had cuts on both her right and left wrists that were "severe and deep enough" to require sutures, he said. The cuts on her neck were superficial and did not require medical intervention, he said. >The wounds on Clancy's wrists were not actively bleeding and had been dressed and covered before Negri arrived, he said. >Negri told jurors he sutured a 3-centimeter deep cut on Clancy's right wrist and a 2-centimeter deep cut on her left wrist. The remaining cuts were flushed and closed with Steri-Strips, he said. According to doctor testimony, She was anemic, needed CPR, and blood transfusions:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9haNoq_950https://www.eastidahonews.com/2026/08/live-updates-day-5-of-lindsay-clancy-murder-trial/
>>542374800>foids opposed the french revolution.women literally initiated the revolution and were the driving force.
> Once moved to Boston, Clancy went into cardiac arrest and had to be revived with CPR and chest compressions, ICU nurse Rachelle Amedee said. Clancy also received multiple blood transfusions, she said. https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/03/us/lindsay-clancy-trial-medical-testimony
>>542375329Not by choice. She misjudged the fall. She wanted to get off with minor injuries.
>>542375372this is royalist filth peddled by dickens and simon shwarma. the revolution was embodied by the state and robespierre
>>542360331Your average /tv/ poster
>>542374490You are so retarded you actually believed OP pic related was the lone juror
>>542360487>she would had spent the rest of her life institutionalizedYou cum-drinking stupid propaganda-spreading faggot. You lying fucking worm. Stop repeating these lies.There is zero chance she'd spend the rest of her life institutionalized. She'd be in for a year max because she murdered the kids 3 years ago. Just like the chink beheader in canada who chopped the head off a bus passenger. All the faggots (like you) said he'd be in a hospital for life. Guess what? Just a few years later he's as free as a bird.
>>542375213You already know you are wrong. You have posted shit from clancy's own defense, which acknowledges Massachusetts' legal standard for insanity. The other anon is right about you. All you can do is pretend not to understand.>Calling those a miscarriage of justice is just you saying bad standard.The same with this shit. You even quoted the term miscarriage of justice, which by itself refutes the kikery you are trying to pull.This is a clancy defender. The most shameless liars to ever plague this world with their presence.
>>542375447Robespierre was a fringe aristocrat and only became a leader during the Terror.
>>542360487>she would had spent the rest of her life institutionalized.Why do you keep repeating this lie? She'd be out in less than a year.
>>542375777Look answers from actual lawyers:https://answers.justia.com/question/2024/10/16/can-a-defendant-who-committed-pre-medita-1034439> Q: Can a defendant who committed pre-meditated murder be proved insane by the court, leading to a lesser sentence?> A: Yes, you can argue that a defendant who committed premeditated murder was insane at the time of the crime. This argument might lead the court to consider a lesser sentence or alternative forms of custody.>To make this case, you would need to show that the individual was unable to understand the nature of their actions or distinguish right from wrong due to a severe mental disorder. Evidence such as psychological evaluations and expert testimonies can support this claim.>If the court accepts the insanity plea, the outcome may involve treatment in a mental health facility instead of traditional incarceration. This process requires careful preparation and thorough presentation of all relevant mental health information.
>>542374919I accept your concession
>>542374569He looks like his wife has a boyfriend, and that boyfriend always calls him "sport" or "champ"
>>542376188Heh, looks like he couldn’t make a response to this.
>>542360487I think there's enough anecdotal evidence to suggest she could spend a couple of years institutionalized and medicated and then be let out because she's "cured".That's not what the people want and that's not justice. It's not really about her, it's about society as a whole.
>>542376188>To make this case, you would need to show that the individual was unable to understand the nature of their actions or distinguish right from wrong due to a severe mental disorder.This does not apply.>she sent her husband away>she started from the oldest child, working her way to the youngestShe was entirely aware of the nature of her actions and capable of distinguishing right from wrong.
>>542377322It just shows she thought her husband would stop her. That doesn’t tell you why. She could have thought he would stop her from doing the right thing.
>>542377699And if pigs had wings they could fly.She also asked for a lawyer, first thing after having murdered her children. She was entirely aware of the nature of her actions and capable of distinguishing right from wrong. There is no valid argumentation to be made against this observation once you consider the facts of the case. She planned it out, got rid of anyone who could stop it, performed it systematically and effectively, tried to kill herself right after, then asked for a lawyer. These are not the actions of someone so floridly psychotic they cannot distinguish the weight of their actions.You don't really even have to consider any of this, since there was never any evidence of her having been psychotic in the first place. This entire trial only happened because the state has a ridiculous burden of proof on the prosecution to prove that she was not insane, when any reasonable individual would understand that the burden of proof should be on the defense instead. If someone is that deep into psychosis, it's not very hard to show it to be the case. By all likelihood she's just some narcissistic family annihilator who sees her children as objects and extensions of herself, so she believes it entirely justified to take them out with herself. Only when it came time to kill herself, she didn't even have the guts to do it properly.
>>542378040Psychotic episodes arent permanent. And their length can vary heavily.https://fremonthospital.com/blog/how-long-does-psychosis-last/She was also in the hospital for a day before she woke up and asked for a lawyer.
>25% of people who develop psychosis will never have another episodeHuh.https://medicine.yale.edu/psychiatry/step/psychosis/
>>542360331the disgusting anglocuckson phenotype, morally and physically weak, no wonder canaanites control the anglo world.
>>542378286Week long psychotic episodes and somehow anyone who's coming and going in that house didn't even notice not even her husband.
>>542375802objectively wrong, he was solidly bourgeois. also the terror WAS the revolution, girondist swine
