Was it worth it?
>>542404200Infinity - 500000 is still infinity nigger. How many troops can Ukraine and Europe recruit without shitting themselves?
>>542404200I thought it was 4 mil according to our /ugh/sisters?
If Ukraine has lost 1.5 million dead then Russia has lost 21 million. The ratio is 14:1 remember.
>>542404200Yes. Have you never played Europa Universalis? Losses can be replaced, while land is finite and invaluable.
>>542404398>Europeover 10 million if it wanted to.>Ukraineukraine has been a poorer than many asian countries even before the war. it has always shit itself. hence this whole operation might be the most humiliating in russian history
>>542404200Russia's not trying to take over Ukraine, it's holding territory. The fact that the UK, which heavily organises this war, lacks the confidence to admit this, should be of special interest to analysts. The US and UK aren't sharing intelligence the way they used to, and we're starting to see moves against Britain.
putin is the biggest globohomo cuck on the planet but no one knows this because they'd rather engage with meme version of him designed by twitterhe started the war just to kill off white russian men and put black cock in white russian women, as has been his lifelong fantasybut no one here knows this since they never watch videos of putin or what his actual believes and goals are they just look at twitter memes
Russia is losing negotiating power with every passing month. Unless they're going to use nuclear weapons and say fuck the world, it might be well advised to start real negotiations sooner rather than later.
Russia has sacrificed many more for much less
>>542404638russia's endgame is and always has been control of europe and access to warm water ports on the atlantic so it can have a duo contintental/maritime empire and rule the world basically.
>>542404200>British military intelligence
>>542404761This is the whole reason why Crimea became a flash point. It actually has less strategic importance to Russia than most believe. The lack of strategic importance was the whole reason why Russia hadn’t bolstered sufficient defenses which made it easier for Ukraine to attack. However, Russia felt a great need to retain the territory in the more recent stages of this war because they have likely planned that they might be able to ensure decent terms of armistice if they can use Crimea as a concession.
>>542404200Has anyone noticed that nafojeets have completely given up on winning the war, now the script is that the war was costly and 'pointless'
the russian attempt at military operation in ukraine really showed how influenced common right wing people in Europe, to lesser extent in USA are. which is something that the right in EU must work on, but they probably wont. irrational retards.
>>542405397Thanke you for your "professional" statement
>>542405400Being on twitter is fascinating. I always had the perspective that the right wing was likely quite diverse across the globe due to their general tendency to be particularist. After translating enough tweets from right wingers from completely different countries, I’ve come to realize that right wingers are really the same everywhere. Even Jewish Israelis think that there is some secret cabal pulling the strings behind the scenes.
So many shitskin shilling bots here... the higher the price of oil goes, the more jewtin will pay the shitskins, lmao.
>>542404761Top delulu
>>542404761I think the only reasonable explanation is that they're going for all of Donetsk for post-war propaganda purposes which Putin has no problem sacrificing another 2 million Russians for.
>>542404546As humiliating as losing a war so bad your country was divided and is still occupied 70 years later?
>>542404638kek bullshit, Russia is constantly sending men out to take small towns reduced to a pile of rubble. Ukraine is mostly on the defensive, which favors them as orcs have to cross open territory.
>>542405309>use Crimea as a concessionLolLmao
>>542404200For average russian oligarch even 50% of nation dying is ok as long he will get his new super yacht.
>>542404200Didn't you guys said their deaths were in the millions? Now the (((Brits))) are saying 500k? Should we have the laugh at ziggers party thread tomorrow when we find out it was 200k, then 100k the next week?
>>542404200and ukraine is at 2.4 million. id say its a fair trade
>2026>still believing jewish outletslol
>>542406562Even worse, they only got 500k untermenschen killed and nobody forced them into the war
>>542404200
>>542404200The only thing these numbers are meant to do is incentivize dumbfucks to go to Ukraine because "Ukraine is winning" and die a stupid death. Also>full scaleLOL
NAFO commits suicide and that's always worth it.
>>542406637That's a strawman, I don't think even UAF makes claims as high as 500,000 fatalities. KIAs have got a lot higher though as the conflict is mainly drones now.
This should be the new Ukraine Russia border, it would be perfect because it looks good on a map that's my only reason I need.
>>542404200If Prighozins numbers were truthful then it would mean ukraine lost 1.5 million dead and another 4.5 million wounded which kind of explains the country going from 44m population to 20m and mass bussification.
>>542404200>Was it worth it?...There is another use for soldiers?
>>542404200950,000 British and their colonials killed in WWI. Was it worth? Apparently so, because they tried very hard to match it in WWII. We'll see how WWIII pans out.
>>542407392here's what Prigozhin actually said about casualties:On Ukrainian casualties — he rejected the Russian official line. The most notable example came in June 2023, when the Russian defence ministry claimed to have killed over 3,700 Ukrainian troops during the early stages of Ukraine's counteroffensive. Prigozhin publicly rubbished those figures, calling the claims "simply wild and absurd science fiction," and warned that exaggerating success would amount to a "massacre" for Russian forces. According to BBC reporting, he argued the defence ministry's claims of huge Ukrainian losses didn't match what was actually happening on the ground around Bakhmut.
>>542404200If Ukraine was winning, then bussification would be unnecessary.
>>542406826> KIAs have got a lot higher Not really. Drones made 20km zone from either side of the line of contact a very undermanned area, there is few soldiers in there, because strained logistics(also by drones) can't supply battalions and regiments. Fighting of the 2022-2023 was battalion vs battalion, brigade vs brigade, now it's squad vs squad. High momentary KIA numbers are not a thing anymore.
>>542407856Here he claims ukraine loses 3 for every 1 russian. https://youtu.be/pXL-73snYA0?si=yexTOqxq-n3cDt6k
>>542404200That seems pretty low compared to all the Ukrainian propaganda about 1:8 kills.This is while Zelesnsky has admitted at least 50,000 Ukrainians have been killed and 70,000 are MIA since early 2025.We're told the attackers are bound to suffer more casualties. Interesting enough, with the land Russia is holding, Ukraine would be considered attackers now.
>>542406065>the higher the price of oil goes, the more jewtin will payYou can take advantage of higher oil price only if you can ship
>>542408070I meant when Rus forces have to cross the open terrain to assault they are hit with drones far more often these days, I am just guessing but Judging from most videos I've seen being droned doesn't have a high survival rate.
it was for israeldid you know 25% of israel speak russiannat hime?!25 PERCENT ISRAEL SPEAK RUSSIAN AT HOME!INSANELY HIGH!ISRAEL HAS NEVER SENT ANY MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE, OR SANCTIONED RUSSIA IN ANY WAY
>>542408357So where are there tankers lined up in the Black Sea right now at Russian ports?Stupid faggots everywhere.
>>542404200wait I thought Rissia loat millions!?!?
>>542404200>6 gorillion losses chud!If Russian losses were anywhere close to what nafotroons claim, half of russia would be depopulated by now
>>542408498I HEARD RUSSIAN OIL WAS FULL OF MICROPLASTICS
>>542404200How does pretending Russians are getting killed on the internet help ukraine lose slower?
>>542404200Russians need to lose this war with maximum casualities so they don't be any threat to anyone for hundreds of years....then it is worth of it.
>>542408592look at russias population statistics for the last 2 years, insane population drop, like millions decrease. in a country with a nativist policy. they are getting fucked. thats not old age.and thats the young too, now they bring in millions of africans and arbs to make up the labor shortfall, and soon the genepool
>>542408592Dont you worry, they know how to fill the gaps.
>>542404408setting up sloppy strawmen is a 4chan classic, nice one bro
they do it for israel25% of israel speak russian at homeisrael has never sanctioned russiaisrael sells russian oilrussia has never helped iran hit an israeli target