The west is where the devil resides.
>>542405561Ok, stop killing christians then
>>542405656But we aren't
>>542405561But he love evil
>>542405561this meme is the only worthwhile thing dugin has ever been part of
>>542405561You have to know the devil to know god. >Muh ego
>>542405561Dugin is insane maniac...you should not even read what that shithead saying.
>>542405561He should get a real job.
>>542405561>The west is where the devil residesHe's spot on>But in the American elite, which is made up of people from a wide variety of backgrounds, at some point a critically large number of non-Americans have accumulated. They are predominantly Europeans, often from Russia. Many are ethnically Jewish but imbued with European or Russian-Soviet principles and cultural codes. They brought a different culture and philosophy to the United States. They did not understand or accept American pragmatism at all, seeing it only as a backdrop for their own advancement. That is, they took advantage of American opportunities, but did not intend to adopt a libertarian logic unrelated to any hint of totalitarianism. In reality, it was these alien elites who hijacked the old American democracy. It was they who took the helm of globalist structures and gradually seized power in the United States.>This, however, represented a completely new interpretation of liberalism for the American tradition. The old liberalism argued: no one can ever impose anything on me. The new liberalism responded: a culture of abolition, shaming, total elimination of old habits, sex change, freedom to dispose of the human foetus (pro-choice), equal rights for women and races is not just a possibility, it is a necessity. The old liberalism said: be what you want, as long as it works. The new one replied: you have no right not to be a liberal. If you are not a progressive, you are a Nazi and must be destroyed. Everything must be sacrificed in the name of freedom, LGBT+, transgender and artificial intelligence.https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2022/06/29/aleksandr-dugin-on-the-alien-substantially-jewish-elite-in-the-u-s-and-its-war-against-traditional-american-individualism/
>>542405561Doesn't that faggot supports tikum olam?
>>542405808He did. He is a sociology professor in Moscow
“I am for black people. White civilization—its cultural values, the lying, inhuman model of the world built by it—has not justified itself. Everything is heading towards the beginning of white pogroms on a planetary scale. Russia is saved only because we are not pure white. Robber transnational corporations, the oppression and suppression of everyone else, MTV, blue and pink—these are the fruits of a white civilization that must be eliminated. Therefore, I am for red, yellow, green, black—just not for white. I wholeheartedly stand on the side of the people of Zimbabwe. ”—Alexander Dugin
Whites? They are destroyed the world and themselves. To be white means to be nihilist. It is self hatred race. It caused so meany troubles to others and to itself. It lost the right to be something. No arguments to support their existence.https://x.com/AGDugin/status/2051760588850602469
>>542405925Funny how he chose to forget the endless African genocides, nigger on nigger violence and slavery.
>>542405839/pol/ anons are better sociologists than all these faggots pretending to be sociologists.For exemple we know that you are a jew without seeing you.
His philosophy is just the same as with (other?) jews where the west is what is left of Rome so west has to be destroyed for that. Russia was already destroyed despite technically being east Rome too.
>>542405561I am not sure how anyone can take this person seriously? If you read any of his works, or at least a bit of them, there is no way you can regard his philosophy as a consistent ideology. He may have some good points here and there, but it is the case of a broken clock telling the right time twice a day - if you throw everything you have against the wall without any consideration, something will inevitably stick. He is doing just that with his attempts at philosophy - it is a hodgepodge of different random ideas that he is trying to mash together and create something he could sell to whoever he needs to sell it to at any given moment. He has been noticed by the government solely because his beliefs (if I may even call them that) have recently started to vaguely correspond to some elements of Russia's own strategy. Although merely tangentially and only because Russia's leadership does not have a structured system of belief either, so almost anything goes. I am still confused, why anyone is taking this person seriously. Maybe it is just a convenient way to extrapolate his ramblings as the backbone of Russia's ideas of how to shape the world. Which is impossible, since some of his political thoughts and philosophical views contradict each other and are virtually unattainable.
Nawmean
>>542406390Here's his consistent philosophy >>542406055 so he wants Russia to destroy the West aka Rome for muh degeneracy.
>>542405656He's not American, anon.
>>542405561>East>HumanFound the brown!
>>542407737I meant Russians and Ukrainians. I see no effort of denazifying Zelensky and his merchant crew.
>>542405561What a stupid thread.
>>542406390That seems to be a theme of russians though. They on the one hand want the "based" elements of national socialism implemented in their lives, but then paradoxically cheer the death of the third reich and rampantly lie like retards the nazis wanted to "kill all slavs" despite obvious evidence that the nazis had hundreds of thousands of slavic soldiers fighting in their army. So russia is a culture at odds with itself. It wants to affirm traditional values while pushing liberal bullshit at the same time. It identifies the west is owned by jewry, while it praises jews in rt calling for white genocide. It asserts it is le christian civilization opposed to "racism" while criticizing the west for white replacement migration. It states the ukrainians are bad because they are "racist nationalists" while themselves in their colloquial culture being exactly that. My theory is because on some level the less turko-mongol mixed russians with purer slavic blood know they fucked up in ww2, and they can't admit that they should have just let the nazis take over their commie kiked society. It's also why russians seethe a lot at germanified eastern europe. Inability to admit germanic chud rule is superior to what they cultivated. Dostaevsky's depression is in part due to this double think tendency.
>>542407134But russia promotes the exact same political values as the "degenerate west"Putin's govt mass imports subhumans to replace the native slavic population, promotes race mixing propaganda, calls the ukrainians bad for being racists, says the west is bad because they are secret "nazis", and there's laws in russia protecting faggots from being persecuted too much.
>>542405839being the russian jordan peterson isn't a job
>>542408393They have facial recognition ID now too.
>>542408650They also copied our "online elections". That means ZOG can install anyone unshamefully. At least mutts need to forge mail in ballots and such. Pretty much every nation on earth has signed up to the Agenda 2030
>>542406390Because muh Putin's "Rapustin", he's just a poor's man Heidegger trying to say what the Volkisch movement and German Romanticism said but without dealing with the elephant in the room like Alain de Benoist does, that is jews, race and that a language alone isn't enough to form a nation, the white Russians are facing the same problems as other Europeans, they lost their vitality and trying to revive Christianity is not going to fix anything because that God died more than a century ago.
>>542408915To be fair Dostaevsky pretty explicitly states jews are a problem. The issue is he didn't do so in racial terms.
>>542408243>They on the one hand want the "based" elements of national socialism implemented in their livesSo it is another case of Germans wewuzzing about things they absolutely didn't invent? A Russian says "I want to ban homosexuality" and your response is "so you want Hitler"And then you call others mentally ill.
>>542407134There is almost nothing consistent about it - hating some abstract caricature picture of the West is not a sound philosophy, a policy at best, and even then it is largely misguided and lacking nuance. His strategy is rather simple, yet in its simplistic approach it undermines itself by becoming inorganic to the point where it is impossible to believe outside of some narrow political discourse. His whole system of belief rests on some obscure idea of Russia as a collective having a cosmic mission to oppose an even less precisely defined West, which is supposed to be the root of all evil. In order to fight it he proposes not adopting some whole ideology, but rather cherry-picking elements of different ones in order to force them together into a single vehicle of resisting liberalism. This is how he manages to pick and choose the elements he regards as useful - some out of communism, others out of nationalism etc. What he fails to understand is that they are all structural elements of complete systems and it is impossible to take all the good parts out of other worldviews and preserve their functionality. His proposal of an ideology thus becomes self-contradicting and dysfunctional, which is why he has to base it upon ambiguous concepts such as "civilizational mission", "cosmic destiny", "pre-ontological chaos" etc. No wonder he likes Evola so much, he was doing almost exactly the same thing with his works. Because neither of them has anything practical to offer.
>>542409170I never said Germans invented anti lgbt tendencies, I am saying that Russians are trying to do "traditionalism lite" because their entire social ethos is based on "nazis bad we russians good because defeated le genocidal nazis"which is the same civilizational lie and stupidity western liberal faggots base their laws onwhich is why russia like the west is doomed to be liberal faggots in long run, because rejecting national socialism is rejecting "traditionalism"the entire point of "traditional values" is racialism, when you deviate to other dumb shit like civic nationalism, ideas based systems you end up shitlibs I am saying that NS is what every sensible society which values "tradition" but doesn't realize the ultimate reason why tradition is valuable.
>>542409750>the entire point of "traditional values" is racialismyou are so stupid that it actually hurts
>>542405561>"No u.">-some Russian fag
>>542409827Moral virtue which benefit a civilization must have a particularity and a reality. The reality is biological. We develop a society to benefit ourselves to optimize it to our genetic neurological predisposition, which is what culture derives from. Also wanting niggers in your society is absurd, you are an enemy for even suggesting it.
>>542408393>>542408650>>542408849I know, the biggest genuine difference in Russia is they don't allow gay marriage and from what I understand they are multicultural/-ethnic but allow people to self-segregate more. That's about it. They are an empire just as any and nationalism aka nazism is their enemy when it comes to anything other than propaganda for soft headed people. It's ridiculous how in this Russia-Ukraine war both sides immediately started the "nazi nazi nazi nazi" calling and I couldn't find the meme pic for it at the moment, but it's kind of consistent on Russia's part because if nationalism = nazism then Russia does oppose it surely.>>542409617>hating some abstract caricature picture of the West is not a sound philosophy, a policy at bestWell I mean yeah. But the philosophy which that policy/goal is based on must come from somewhere.
>>542410278Russia has been multiracial for about the last 500 years. It is only bound together by Orthodoxy and ideology.It is harder than ever to keep Russia together, because of weak leaders and racial tensions. And eventually, Russia will collapse into a smaller Russia that will be an ethnic state.But our goal is keeping Russian Federation alive just long enough that the west collapses first.
>>542410290But they don't define nationalism in its civic nationalist conception as an enemy, but explicitly racial or ethnic nationalism. They're promoting the same propaganda as the americans basically but from a different style or angle. My point is there is little difference from russia and "the west". They are where america was on fag rights in the 1990s.
>>542405768killing a man'a daughter for the "memes" is what the henchmen of the devil would do. dugin is right.
>>542410366Ok but if it has to collapse to become an ethnic state doesn't that prove my point that they're just as gay and liberal on race as "the west"?
>>542405561...And a Russian dope would know this how?Islam, communism, they share that human lives are nothing to them.The average drone has more soul and individuality thantheir average casualty of war, there's a reason they just call them Mohammed.Even drones at least get unique serial numbers.
>>542410407I think USA and Russia call it "patriotism" which is pretty equal to civic nationalism in my mind so it basically means you are supposed to love the system/government which makes the country/empire prosper and the country/empire can consist of infinite amount of different nations. Ethnic nationalists are the only real nationalists because they see that while culture, religion, language, habits, land area etc can vary during centuries, it's still generally the same people who are the nation and most (not all obviously) countries were created so certain nations can feel home there.Russia is an empire so if nations get their own countries which are not even autonomous to Russia, then the empire gets smaller and less influential so nationalism bad.
who are some other political lolcows?
>>542405561>posted from my iPhone 12
>>542410855>nationalism bad.State sanctioned nationalism is the only nationalism you need, amigo
>>542410855Why would being an empire preclude it from being ethnonationalist? It could have preferential treatment for the founding stock ie. slavic people and less for non whites. I don't see any benefit from having non whites in your society to begin with, with exception maybe of east asians. It just breeds conflict. If a state doesn't want to benefit its founding stock then I fail to see the point of that state's existence. To proliferate what? an abstract idea of an empire? expand borders to include retarded subhumans which are a net drain on society? Rome's approach was ideal. Ethnic supremacism for the italians vrs everyone else. In modern times because we know racialism is correct we expand the imperial identity to all Aryans. Which is effectively what the third reich was doing until the russians at the behest of world jewry ended.
>>542410673The difference with Russia is that it was always like this.Another difference is that Russia historically had very strong leaders as a glue to their multiraciality (which is usually a weakness), but the west doesn't.Even when the west becomes authoritarian to protect diversity, it does it in a very stupid way that only makes everyone angry and escalates conflict. For example, they openly give racists higher punishment than murderers, they make hate speech laws that are enforced broadly but have minor punishment. For example, everyone who says nigger has to pay a fine of 50 British pounds.It makes people angry because everyone is affected by this, but it also doesn't deter them because it is only a fine.This is why the British police was completely unprepared to stop the riots in North Ireland.In comparison, Russia's section 282 is used extremely sparingly and only for offenses that really could trigger some kind of interracial conflict. But when it IS used, it is extremely brutal. They take a racist community, pick the leader and send him to prison where they are beaten and tortured and many just "disappear". Then they leave the movement leaderless and they disintegrate in the power struggles because of the vacuum.But the average citizen of Russian Federation barely notices this, because they are not in a leadership position and they can be as racist as they want.In the end, all multiethnic countries eventually collapse, and so will Russia, one day. But it wants to stay alive long enough to defeat the west, and it probably will.
>>542405561The entire Kremlin is nothing but Satan worshippers. They unironically hate Christianity so much they looped right around to satanism.
pidor shills are pathetic scum
>>542411317>"yes, it was real!" said Orlando FigesKEK
>>542410855Countries existing around ethnicity is a relatively novel idea in historical terms (it began in the 19th century), usually people's ethnic groups had little enclaves but were part of a larger empire. It was fragmented by more than ethnicity too, you would have city states or identity based around a certain area. A peasant in Medieval France would identify as an inhabitant of their local province more than considering themselves 'French'. All of this changed when travel became easier.Dugin going on about the 'white race' and 'black race' is an Americanisation in itself and a result of globalization. In Africa there's been massive amounts of racial violence between different ethnic groups, all of which are 'black' but they don't consider themselves the same. Same is true in the old days in Europe which was constantly at war, no one in Germany considered themselves to be in the same basket as people in Denmark or Britain.These days people just clump to the default big group that they're part of which overrides all the other ones, it's no longer their province or their country even, it's their broad genetic group. (white, black, etc).
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>>542411763>with *alleged* silent approval of the camp guardsSo this is literally just American prison. You get raped there just as well and nobody gives a shit
>>542411124I think ethnic nationalism would aim to have preferably 100% of your own people in the country. What you are explaining would be Russian supremacy and that has been a thing for centuries and there's a term "russification". That was not White supremacy by any means because there were countless other nations under Russian rule and I'm not saying everyone was oppressed 100% of the time but when they were, it was real bad shit and this was before anyone knew anything about Soviet Union.Rome or USA before the 60s where there was to an extent White supremacy could work to certain extent but even the USA back then was 90% White (WASP, other people hardly count as White back then) which is "Whiter" so to say than Finland is today for a fun fact. Even then the slavery or muh cheap labor were mistakes in both Rome and USA.
>>542405561Weak men seek idols who write meaningless books and spout empty, clichéd quotes.
>>542411920>That was not White supremacy by any means because there were countless other nations under Russian rule...which were as White as anyone in terms of Slavic people etc.>>542411567Yeah and the ethnic nationalism got even more popular between world wars and a bit after that when basically it was decided every nation should have their "Israel" to feel safer.The whole muh Whites and Blacks generalization can be used for good and bad. All kinds of White countries in the past would be at war with each other and telling each other "we don't want your kind here", but as the situations chance and every single White country has 15-40% of the population stock consisting of often hostile but barely tolerable foreigners. Then Whites suddenly want to stick together more and say "we are more similar than we thought before".This doesn't mean I'm happy at all how there's for example a shit ton of Ukrainians here no matter how White passing they are and all of them need to go back when situations stabilize, same with Russians, and plenty of Ukrainians are ethnic Russians too. At least they don't make the street image look more brown but taking in infinite Slavs doesn't really help Finns prosper. It's just more of giving up our own habits and language and paying for them to have 5 kids but this time they are not brown, sorry to say.
@grok, show dugin's living conditions today
>>542405561Ah, yes, the east.Authoritarian governments, communism, poverty, genocide, war, Pajeets, Changs, Mongols, Jews & Arabs.Such beautiful and thriving humanity!!!!!!!!!
>>542411201Ok, but you failed to address my point. There is no benefit in punishing native population for "racism" at all. Non whites are simply a net drain on society generally. Viewing them as equal citizens is absurd.
Which way white man?
>>542412719Eh, Mongols have lower crime rate than Americans. But eventually, every country that is not an ethnic state will collapse. My ideal state has no whites either, since other whites are different than us and don't belong here
>>542411920Well I think such a system would necessarily be run by a higher IQ group than russians. Russia's problem is admixture with turks and mongols which will take generations of eugenic policies to remove from the overall russian gene pool. All the low IQ "vatnik" retards in russia and the general low development of the country is due to this admixture. Same idea with other eastern europeans. The correct move for russia is to become racialist and to integrate ns ideas into their society. We overall need a pan european civilization to protect ourselves broadly. If one country like russia can be jewwed and racially muttified to become hostile to white society then everyone else is threatened. Frankly I would say russia hinges on the non white category due to the heavy admixture. White russians do exist, but the admixture is significant enough at this point that it will be very difficult to re-order russian society.
>>542412857control by raceyes of course mongols are not as bad as niggers and hispanics in crime duh well different from you maybe as a race mixed bastard, but racially pure russians do exist in the north still, you still see the blonde hair blue eyed russians sometimesit is true that russia is so bastardized at this point that I'm not sure if it can recover
>>542413141I mean even in small towns in rural USA
>>542413194Poverty = crime. Look back into your own cuntry in the 1990s
>>542413878I am Slovenian
>>542405821Transgender is the epitome of western values.It is the intersections of the achievements of empirical science method (pharmaceuticals and medicine), capitalist money grubbing (woman is a product you can buy and sell in the marketplace) and radical individualism (I subjectively feel like a woman, therefore that is reality).
>>542405561>I wish we could all live like the lucky ones in eastern Ukraine
>>542411533>2026>ziggers denying the gulags and the tens of millions killed by StalinTZD total zigger death TGA total gulaghomo annihilation
>>542406029That's west of anatolia.
>>542413929Alright, you got off easier than everyone else around. How come you shill for internationalism? You really want a global Brazil?
>>542405561This faggot needs to live in a thin walled apartment surrounded by niggers and we will see how his philosophy evolves.
>>542414857Why don't you read what I say before saying nonsense? >>542411201All multiethnic countries are vulnerable to collapse, including Russia
>>542405561Then why do they send their kids to live in the west
>>542405561The east is genociding it’s own people in a pointless and irrational conflict >you better not join NATO because then we’ll be at war with NATO and as long as you’re not in NATO we’ll be fighting NATO anyway
>>542414975Ok, why do you shill for the east when its the other side of the shekel?
>>542405821tl;dr>>542405823Yes, and a practitioner of kabbalah.
>>542415301because it is my side.it is like asking you why do you feel proud to be estonian
>>542415301and because the Russia was multiracial before the jews even were there.It is a flaw, but it is a flaw that Russian leaders consciously made centuries ago. And other than these flaws, Russia is just better
>>542405561HEY OP FAGGOT YOUR RACE MIXING 4TH POSITION BOOMCEL DUGIN GOT HIS OWN DAUGHTER KILLED A CRISPY CRITTER ALSO WWI DESTROYED CHRISTIANITY, JUDAISM, AND ISLAM RUSSIA COLLAPSED EVROPA COLLAPSED OTTOMAN EMPIRE COLLAPSED YOUR WORLD HAS BEEN OVER FOR LIKE 100 YEARS WUSSIAN & WEIMERIMUTT WOMEN ARE THE HIGHEST RATES OF SEX WORKERS. YOU GUYS LOST WWII I THINK XD
>>542416123I'm a bit confused on why are you feeling pride over things you have nothing to do with. I just enjoy living among my own kind where i can relax and walk safely at any time.
>>542405561Anywhere that jews live, the devil resides.
>>542415301CORRECT THE JEWS RUN BOTH RUSSIA & AMERICA THEY WERE ONE OF THE FACTIONS THAT 'WON' WWII I LOVE WATCHING WEIMERIMUTTS & RUSSIANS COPE AND SEETHE THEY GET SO PISSY WHEN YOU MENTION PUCCIA & ZION DON ARE JEWISH AGENTS XD
>>542416198Russification happened all the time there. They always wanted a muttgolem state.
>>542416198WEIMERICA & RUSSIA WERE THE WORLD POLICE SADLY THEY RAN OUT OF MANPOWER. THE JEWS SUCKED BOTH NATIONS DRY THE PAST 80 YEARS ESPECIALLY. xD
>>542416380& THEY GOT ONE 1.5 MILLION LOST MUTT GOLEM IN UKRAINE. KEK IMAGINE LOSING TO A LITERAL WHEAT FIELD NATION XD RACE MIXING ONLY RUINS THE WHITE PEOPLE IT DOESN'T GIVE US ANYTHING. ARYANS // WHITES ARE FINE WITHOUT ASIAN SARS AND NIGGERS. XD
YOU SEE ANONS AMERICA IS COLLAPSING HOWEVER THE SUB-HUMANS & SHITSKINS HAVE THE TISM FROM MICROCHIMERISM // TELEGONY. THEIR MOTHERS WERE WHORES. THE SUB-HUMANS FORGOT ALL THEIR NATIONS ARE COLLAPSING AS WELL LOL LMAO SAID THE SCORPION TO THE FROG
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>>542405768K E K >>542405807He's just a mentally ill boomer. Many Such Dysgenics >>542405839CLEAN YOUR ROOM. WASH YOUR PENIS XD >>542406055YES HE'S A 4TH POSITION KALERGIST HE THINKS WHITES NEED TO MIX WITH 80-70 IQ ASIANS FOR A MASTER RACE
>>542405561>*squats in front of dilapidated commie block*>*a goat walks by, followed by a 12 year old prostitute*>*chugs vodka*Ah yes, thriving
>>542408243How stupid are you nigger? Germans wanted to eradicate everyone east of Berlin. That was obvious in their stated plans and Nazi racial ideology. There alliances with certain slavic countries were purely pragmatic and temporary.
>>542417468NO RAJEET BROWN PAKI SAR LIVING IN THE UK THEY DID NOT THEY NEVER SAID THAT THEY NEVER HAD PLANS FOR THAT THE HOLOCAUST IS A LIE ALL THE DEATHS WERE ON THE SOVIET LINE THERE WAS NO SIX MILLION BUT THERE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO STOP EPSTEIN // MODERN ISRAEL // ROTHSCHILDS OHH WELL NOW THE PLANET WILL COLLAPSE AND BILLIONS WILL DIE INCLUDING MOST JEWS IF NOT ALL SUCH IS LIFE. WE'D BE ON MARS BY NOW IF THE GERMANS // HADRIAN HAD DONE THEIR JOBS
