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Does anybody else somehow start to believe the official story because the "inside job" conspiracy was memed and repeated so often over the years without ANY clear evidence or success so that it feels cringe now almost talking about it? The sockpuppets got me.
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9/11 conspiracy theories they're all tied together by congitive infiltration to elicit control through anger
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>>542418672
shut the fuck up, faggot
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What evidence do you need?
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>>542418672
Explain the Pentagon plane collision then, faggot
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>>542418672
No. Why are "german" posters so obsessed with america and constantly have opinions
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>>542419332
hijacked plane. if there was no plane, what happened to the passengers?
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>>542418672
Even if it wasn't orchestrated directly by the CIA and MOSSAD, what is factual is that they KNEW something BIG was gonna happen months beforehand and more than likely knew of exactly WHAT would happen and they didn't do anything to stop it so they could get justification for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and the WTC7 official story still doesn't make sense, nor why they never released the 80+ confiscated videos of the plane crashing into the Pentagon
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>>542419416
Yeah it was hijacked planes. But the US government was watching them, tapping their phones. So how did the attack go through without some inside help?
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>>542418672

>without any clear evidence

some people, you just can't reach

>https://www.unz.com/article/9-11-was-an-inside-outside-job/
>https://www.unz.com/bhua/9-11-coincidence-theory/
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>>542419416
I did not say there was no plane, but the hit itself was obviously not caused by a plane.
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>>542419369
OP isnt german
there are barely any actual germans on here
its russians, ukrainians, jews and american shills using the german flag
take your pic
OP sounds like an american glownigger to me
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>>542418672
We know planes hit the buildings. We know who was on them. We also know why the buildings collapsed. pro tip: it wasnt super secret silent explosives that are impermeable to plane impacts and fire.

The vast majority of conspiritards' arrguments are simply incredulity- which is a logical fallacy
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>>542419456
It was orchestrated by the jews bro.
But is elected, and immediately puts these radical foaming-at-the-mouth zionist neocons into the government. Immediately Ronald Lauder pushes for the buildings to be sold privately. They are sold to Larry Silverstein, and then 1 month later the attack happens.
Those buildings were a massive liability, filled with asbestos and corrosion, they were supposed to be torn down for the cost of billions. This was just a way of tearing them down, while getting their war.
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>>542419189
>>542418672

If you're a Jew, and your father strikes you down as a 9-11 year-old, does it justify this response?
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>>542419456
>still doesn't make sense,
how tell us
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>>542419456
I mean, I'm no structural engineer. I have no idea what can happen when huge jetliners crash into buildings and the debris falls on other surrounding buildings. Maybe it happened like the official story tells us, even if it a 0.00001% chance, but maybe this day it happened
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>>542418672
Burgers like jobs.
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this is because the official story IS what happened and i think the reason as to why the 9/11 conspiracy theory forced memes occured is because of due to the lack of response by the united states thus these were created out of spite. if the united states had done it's job and had genocided the entire middle east, they wouldn't have been made. even the people sharing these memes would tell you that they want the middle east to be glassed if you asked their position on the region. that should tell you something.
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>>542419595
It likely wasn't "explosives" but thermite charges
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>>542418672
i believe mossad knew ti was going to happen and did nothing.

I believe flight united 93 was shot down by the american air force.
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>>542419645
You know what's really good at tearing down a building? When you put thermite charges on the support columns.
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>>542419416
Remote controlled. No hijackers.

Passengers from those flights were flown elsewhere and killed.
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>>542419652
they were created so you come to the same emotional respone jfc how can you not see it?
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>>542419490
>The Unz Review is an American website and blog founded and edited by Ron Unz, an American far-right activist and Holocaust denier.
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>>542419800
Ron Unz is jewish retard. He denies the holocaust because the holocaust didn't happen.
Also being "far right" isn't a crime
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>>542418672
It means the end of the world if people over there just start being Hellenized Christians and nobody kills them or whatever for it so…
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Conspiracy theories are how idiots try to make sense of a world they don't understand.
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You are aware that just 1 month before the attack, the buildings were sold to Larry Silverstein?
In the weeks before the attack, the elevators in the towers were offline, under construction, because he was renovating them. In reality he was contracting with various shady companies, such as Israeli front-companies in New York City, to load the towers with thermite charges.

Those buildings had been publicly owned for 35 years, because they were a massive liability and were supposed to be torn down. Ronald Lauder pushed for them to go public right when Bush was elected. Because Bush put crazy zionist neocon jews into the Pentagon to clear the path for the attack.
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>>542419687
How did the thermite "charges" survive the plane impacts and fires considering the collapses started right at the point of impact in both cases?
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The United States has a long history with false flag operations
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>>542419800
you realize that gives it credibility?
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>>542420107
There's actually some suspicious videos of "molten metal" falling from the towers after the impact. Seems a couple of the thermite charges were ignited during the impact. But why do you assume the impact would cause some sort of cascade that would ignite all the charges on the support columns?
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>>542419957
No dude, the towers were actually taken down by Mossad. If you want evidence, I got it. I just want to know what evidence you need. You guys aren't communicating that.
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>>542419595
What kind of metallic additives in the aircraft paint?
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Where was Trump during that time? why couldnt he prevent this tragedy?
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>>542418672
physics class is all the evidence you need

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-aduZ2ne9U
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>>542418672
post nose.
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>>542420356
trump is protecting terrorists
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>>542420356
AI training; ATP was too inclusive.
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They flooded everything with bullshit, so people ended up chasing their tails. You don't have to know how it was all done. You just have to know, it was impossible for those buildings to fall like they did. From there you move to who benefitted from this.
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>>542420356
The attack was the brainchild of all these big jewish NYC developers, like Ronald Lauder, Michael Glassner, Larry Silverstein, among others. Guiliani was in on it.
Trump was thick as thieves with all these guys. So it does kind of suggest he must have been party to it. In the wake of the attack Trump was making some very pointed comments about the asbestos in the towers, that really made me think he knew something about it. He was also hinting really strongly, although not saying, "are you suuuure a plane did this?"
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>>542418672
Do you know what cope means? Mutts simply can't accept the biggest "superpower" and the biggest army in the world got buttfucked beyond oblivion by a dozen of goat fuckers. It was so bad they never recovered. What they don't realize is that blaming kikes is just as shameful.
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>>542419456
MR. PRESIDENT, WE JUST GOT A REPORT THAT SOMETHING BIG IS COMING. HOW SHOULD WE RESPOND, SIR?!
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>>542418672
>without ANY clear evidence
Oh, you ingenuous retard. There is plenty of evidence. Nothing in the official story makes sense.
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>>542419576
Fair enough
Also, kraut bro, what's the best German sausage?
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>>542418672
No. The 'official story' has done more damage to scientific thinking than any other event. They proclaimed 'believe this lie or we'll treat you the same way we treat the terrorists' and even now, decades later, people are discouraged from thinking logically about it. We should foster an environment of curiosity and honesty instead of fear and lies.
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>>542419416
there was no motherfuckin plane hitting the pentagon
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1789152749941591.mp4
unless you want to get technical and say that a cruise missile technically qualifies as an airplane because it has fins that can steer it
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>>542419624
There's literally no reason for tower 7 to fall
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>>542418672
The planes were real, the buildings fell because of impact and fire damage.
The inside job part is that parts of the government and some connected elites like Silverstein had knowledge of the threat and let it happen.
It's possible that the hijackers themselves were orchestrated by the CIA as well, but it's not like there were agents on the plane masquerading as jihadis. They would have just goaded them and helped them with access to things like they would a school shooter.
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>>542419595
>We know who was on them.
most likely absolutely nobody, considering the planes flew directly over Strewart AFB & Westover AFB while in an active state of hijack and the whole airbase didnt do jack fuckin shit
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>>542420982
>assymetrical damage causes symmetrical collapse
>three times
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>>542420442
what about progressive dynamic collapse
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>>542420872
>molten steel
Even your memetake doesnt say steel but "metal". Sparks of material are not proof of an inside job. Any idea what molten aluminum looks like? How can you tell the difference?
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>>542420982
I mean they definitely knew it was coming. They had Israeli spies watching the terrorists and living right next to them. The FBI even said, there was no possible way Mossad didn't have foreknowledge of the attack.

But it goes further than that. Why did Ronald Lauder push the buildings private the moment Bush got elected? Why did Larry Silverstein buy the buildings 1 month before the attack, and then immediately renovate the elevator shafts? The buildings hadn't been in private hands since 1965, and the first time they go private is 1 months before they're blown up?

They set this whole thing up. They loaded up the buildings with thermite charges. They facilitated the terrorists on-the-ground, and designed the plan to hit the towers to begin with. The neocons in the administration cleared the path at the top-level.

No, they orchestrated this whole thing. It wasn't just "they knew and didn't tell us", no.
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>>542419645
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1789145923563546.webm
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>>542419687
>It likely wasn't "explosives" but thermite charges
reminder that incendiaries must be vectored by explosives otherwise they just sit there all melty not doing the job intended
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>>542418672
>Does anybody else somehow start to believe the official story because the "inside job" conspiracy was memed and repeated so often over the years without ANY clear evidence or success so that it feels cringe now almost talking about it?
No. Thread over.
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>>542421136
>at near freefall speed
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>>542419703
>I believe flight united 93 was shot down by the american air force.
flight 93 landed in Cleveland, obviously that one didnt go to plan so they decided to pull it anyway after sweating all day worrying about how they would accomplish the primary objective of the mission
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>>542421052
None of them were symmetrical. There is too much mass for them to just fall over sideways like a tree, but the upper sections tilted to one side as they collapsed.
WTC7 collapsed in the center before the outer curtain collapsed. You can watch videos where the penthouse disappears from the rooftop before the whole thing goes.
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>>542421227
No, it was proven by amateurs that, all you need is some pressure, and the thermite cuts through the steel like a knife. It doesn't require explosives.

The guy behind this was likely Eitan Wertheimer, whose company specializes in metal-cutting techniques. He was caught bribing the police chief Bernard Kerik, and caused him to be indicted later on.
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>>542419763
>Remote controlled. No hijackers.
>Passengers from those flights were flown elsewhere and killed.
we know for a fact that ceecee lyles was not on that plane because her call stayed connected for like 18 minutes past the time the phone would have been destroyed by impact
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>>542420232
>But why do you assume the impact would cause some sort of cascade that would ignite all the charges on the support columns?
>misdirection

You didnt answer the question. The collpases clearly started right at the spot of impacts. So, any "charge" would have had to survive that impact the resulting fires- which were significant.

How did they know where the planes would hit in order to initiate collapse from "charges" right at those exact spots?
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>>542418672
Muslims did 9/11. They claim it, they celebrate it. All of the hijackers were Muslims. Every moment of the attack was caught on video. It's not hard to believe. Pretty much every major terror attack is done by jihadi Muslims.
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>>542421382
>None of them were symmetrical.
>don't trust your eyes goy
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>>542418672
> Does anybody else
Nope, just glowniggers.

There is plenty of evidence, abundant evidence for the official narrative being utterly WRONG!
19 sandniggers with box cutters are the least plausible explanation for even the official undisputed facts alone.
An inside job theory easily explains how all the astonishing coincidences of that day did not happen by chance.

And then you learn about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
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University of Alaska study regarding Building 7:

https://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7

>The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.

>the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building
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>>542420935
its a customised lower structure sitting on a shefl of bedrock supporting a larger upper footprint. was designed with a major flaw to begin with imo.
have blueprints from a vid on another harddrive
.u should look them up to appreciate it fully
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>>542418672
> Does anybody else somehow start to believe the official story

No. Lmfao, no. lol
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>>542420886
Thüringer Bratwurst
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>>542419576
Based and intelligent kraut. Have a comfy evening bro
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>>542420107
>How did the thermite "charges" survive the plane impacts and fires considering the collapses started right at the point of impact in both cases?
thermite doesnt vaporize but a tiny bit of steel, certainly not the vast quantities that went up in a giant dust cloud that day
if anything, thermite would have been used to try and help ensure symmetry during collapse while the jewish space laser was doing its job
picrel is glownigger justification for muh super thermite
now let's forget that the main component of steel is iron
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>>542418672
>conspiracy was memed and repeated so often over the years without ANY clear evidence
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>>542421470
>How did they know where the planes would hit in order to initiate collapse from "charges" right at those exact spots?
They do controlled demolitions all the time. They just loaded up the support columns with thermite charges, then cascaded them.
These thermite charges take a while to eat through the metal, so the weakest point on the chain snapped first. That being, the point of impact.
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>>542421539
>involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.
If that were true, the penthouse would not have collapsed several seconds prior to the rest of the building
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>>542421168
Its not "sparks".
Its literally molten metal... LIQUID METAL.
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>>542418672
The only "conspiracy" worth talking about is how much prior knowledge the government had, and if, how they reacted/didn't react. That and the saudi connection. Bombs, thermite, holograms and whatever the fuck is a distraction.
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>>542418672
Boomer and millennials are tricking you into believing this ever happened.
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>>542421136
>what about progressive dynamic collapse
only a retard would accept that this is both possible and consistent with all the video evidence
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>>542420872
>>542421168
>>542421669
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>>542421669

thats super heated jet fuel anon
unplug ur brain
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>>542421653
the penthouse did not cause the collapse
it's a demolitoin technique to draw the forces of the collapse inwards
it's called building implosion
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Yup, it's just a fucking dumb conspiracy.
A whole lot could have gone wrong with using the planes.
Anybody with the resources to make the US military stand down and not scramble at least for the second tower could simply have used a missile instead.
This has the added bonus of being able to go "oh no, the terrorists have missiles".
We knew that Bush knew it was going to happen as he got handed a folder literally titled "attack imminent", whether he was genuinely too useless to do anything, or saw it as an opportunity is what I have questions about as far as that day goes.
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>>542418672
i simply don’t care just like the president that opted to skip the memorial event. its an old exaggerated thing from the other side of the world
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>>542421669
I know this isn't good evidence at all. But I was scrolling youtube comments on the Building 7 collapse. There was one guy who claimed he visited the towers as a kid. He said the entire lobby was covered in construction tape and those blue tarps construction workers use. He said the elevators were offline.
The construction workers had a foreign appearance. When one of them came close, they were speaking a foreign language. He asked his dad about it, and his dad said the language was Hebrew.

I know it's just a random youtube comment, totally not evidence of anything. But I believe it.
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demolition expert Danny Jowenko about wtc 7 (he died in a tragic car accident)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl2RIqT-4bk
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>>542421945
>he died in a tragic car accident
It happnens. May he RIP
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>>542421612
>>542421630
So which one is it? space lasers or thermite only?
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>>542420982
this.
WTC7 and the pentagon were inside jobs tho. to destroy the financial records of those 'missing' 2.3 trillion dollars (Donald Rumsfeld, 9/10/2001)
they knew it was going to happen, let it happen, and used it for their own purposes. just like october 7th
with jews you lose
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>>542421874
Jewtube comments are even less credible than 4chan lol.
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>>542421669
But why label it "steel" when you dont know what it is? There is clearly a huge fire going on...
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>>542419645
>the debris falls on other surrounding buildings.
NIST reports denied the debris was the cause of the collapse and put all blame on the fire in the building which was burning for 7 hours after which the whole building collapse, this was the only steel skyscraper to have collapsed from a fire up to that point, afterwards a few others happened, like the Plasco Building in Teheran which burned for 3.5 hours and then collapsed, however not in the same way as the 7 WTC did where the WHOLE building collapsed at the same time, the Plasco Building's North wall collapsed first, followed by the rest of the building
>https://youtu.be/Jf27GGZYT2s
>https://youtu.be/sPGr4D1-zDI
Plasco collapse from 2 different angles
Another steel skyscraper that was engulfed in flames was the Windsor Tower in Madrid, it burned for 24 hours but it only PARTIALLY collapsed, and the last one was Wilton Paes de Almeida Building in Sao Paulo which burned for 90 minutes and then collapsed, you can see how sever the fire was in the video below, unlike the fires in 7 WTC
https://youtu.be/Ek0Tg5an_b0
Watch all these videos and compare the way they collapse and the severity of the fires inside each, the 7 WTC's collapse does not look organic to me(i.e. that the fire caused it)
https://youtu.be/cmp7rV2aZhM
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>>542421653
Why not? The collapse of the penthouse prior to the collapse of the main building wasn't meant to be explained by the "near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building".
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>>542422058
I'll give you the full greentext.

Tldr
>neocons are all jews
>attempting to hijack the Republican party for zionism
>they back Bush the Elder, then flip on him when he opposes west bank settlements, turning him into a 1-termer
>spend the 90's creating various institutes and think tanks to lobby for Middle Eastern wars
>the infamous PNAC think tank drew up invasion plans for every middle eastern country, and said we need a "pearl harbor style event" to motivate americans into war
>Bush the Younger puts them into power all throughout the pentagon
>immediately, Ronald Lauder uses his post on the Privatization Board to push the towers private
>Michael Glassner at the Port Authority sells them to Larry Silverstein, even though he wasn't the highest bid
>silverstein takes possession of the towers 1 month before the attacks
>contracts with various unlicenced shady (Israeli) companies in New York to renovate the towers
>they specifically work on the elevator shafts, where the support columns are
>the FBI documents a massive Israeli spying operation all over America at this time, they were creating fake low-level business fronts
>these spies were following the hijackers around, living next to them
>the hijackers somehow knew when the FBI put phone taps in, and changed their communications immediately
>with the neocons at the top-level clearing the path, and israeli operatives on the ground level facilitating it, the attack was easy
>buildings brought down by thermite charges
>Building 7 had important documents relating to the Enron and Worldcomm frauds, it had to be taken down even though its plane didn't arrive (crashed by passenger revolt)
>in the aftermath, an "anthrax attack" is used to link the hijackers to Saddam
>but the anthrax seemed to target political opponents of zionists, and the tabloid Giuliani hated was, for some reason, a target
>the anthrax was traced back to american labs, the Israelis lied about the connection to Iraq

continued -->
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>>542421945
>demolition expert Danny Jowenko about wtc 7
>cherry picking
why didnt you include what he said about WTC 1&2?? Because he cleary says no explosives were used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrJH8nLO8kc
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>>542422384
because those were not a conventional controlled demolitions
they were meant to look like a collapse from top to bottom
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>>542422495
to be clear it was controlled demolition just not conventional
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>>542422058
it was space lasers + thermite
asymmetrical damage to a steel high rise will never, ever, EVER produce anything resembling symmetry in collapse
the e team wired that shit up to accommodate for the already known impact site (this is why they built the wooden balcony, to take measurements) and produce symmetry in the outcome because there were other jew buildings in the area they didnt want to touch, see picrel
it is space lasers because nothing else is doing to make all that steel sublimate and disappear except for some nikolai tesla john hutchinson type shit
the richter scale measurements prove that but a small fraction of those buildings impacted
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>>542422326
Some additional details
>There were literal Israeli agents caught celebrating the attacks, the so-called "Dancing Israelis"
>they worked at Urban Moving Systems, which was suspected to be an Israeli front company.
>they were filming the attacks. Allegedly before they started, but this is disputed since they handed off the tapes.
>they made such a scene of celebrating it, they got the cops called on them
>The cops put out an APB for suspicious white vans
>this meant they couldn't go through with the truck bomb plot, the original plan was to schedule truck bombs at the base.
> This was likely going to be the explanation for the collapse originally.
>auxillary explosives went off in the basement, reported by many people, this was probably to help close the exits (the basement level was the property of a different jewish zionist)
>they stopped a truck filled with explosives on the George Washington Bridge. This was covered up by the police chief.
>The police chief Bernard Kerik was later indicted for corruption after taking millions in bribes from Eitan Wertheimer, whose company specialized in metal-cutting
>Giuliani and Kerik are assigned to broach with the media during this event, both were corrupted
>the Dancing Israelis were taken in for questioning by the FBI, and under interrogation admitted they were Israeli spies
>they were released after immense pressure from the Israeli government and jewish lawyers
>btw the towers were filled with asbestos and corrosion and were slated to be torn down for a cost of billions. This is likely why they became a magnet for false-flag terror attacks, such as the bombing in '93.
Basically this whole thing was organized by these jewish New York real estate moguls trying to solve multiple problems at once.
1) Get rid of the billion dollar problem towers
2) While getting their new Pearl Harbor in the process
This is how they think.
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>>542421444
> It's a frame
Still gives me shivers.
You can hear in her voice how she suppressed her emotions.
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>>542422649
>symmetry
lol
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>>542418672
the retardation is strong in this thread
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"Pull it"
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OP sucks cocks
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>>542422672
here is an mp3 of carl cameron's fox news expose on the isrealis arrested after 911
it will be alive for 1 hour
straight-brown-mtjq1le3.edgeone.dev/
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>>542419052
>>542418672
Nope. That's not how thinking works good sir nigger
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>>542418672
the events of the official story definitely happened the way we were told. sandnigger-goatfuckers flew planes into buildings.

but the US and Israel definitely had foreknowledge of the attacks.
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>>542422809
considering how absolutely fucking impossible the task was, they came pretty damned close
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>>542418672
Nope it was all proof that society can collapse at any moment the terrorists, elites, or whoever attacks Western Society. Better to prepare for the worst case scenarios of total warfare and chaos in the streets just in case.
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>>542422495
SO...they did WTC1&2 in "non conventional" ways but did WTC7 they old fashioned way?
You believe Danny when he tells you what you want to hear but disregard him when he tells something you dont want to believe. makes sense
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osama was a really funny guy denying that he did 9/11 instead of going on full jihad and saying that the american pigs deserved to get their twin towers destroyed
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>>542418672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M

here's a 5 hour documentary on the matter, i like the second part the most, the engineering part
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>>542421444
>>542422696
> I'm on a plane that's been highjacked
> I'm on the plane.
> I'm calling from the plane.
Guess how I know she wasn't on a plane...

https://youtu.be/SqpTvZmSKUc
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>>542422940
The thermite charges take a while to eat through the metal. Probably as long as 10 minutes.
So when they're triggered, the metal starts weakening, and weakening. In the case of the two towers, the weakest point in the chain snaps first. The point of impact. But in the case of Building 7, the weakest point in the chain is the base of the towers, which have the most load bearing pressure
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>>542422933
>sandnigger-goatfuckers flew planes into buildings.
nigger they were remotely controlled
the planes were swapped out when they went over Stewart & Westover AFBs while in an active state of hijack
those mfs landed there and the crashers took off
no amateur is just going to up and hit with precision like that
unless you think its pure coincidence that Marsh & Mclellan took it straight in their data center
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>>542418672
Remember the hologram planes!
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>>542423056
>>542423054
>>542423013
>>542423000
>>542422948
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>>542422936
>they came pretty damned close
>47 other buildings damaged in the collapse
>debris covering 16 acres
lol
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>>542422940
danny was most likely a paid demolition expert meant to confirm the official narrative
he had no idea about wtc 7 until someone showed him the footage
nobody talked about wtc 7 it was meant to be memoryholed
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>>542422940

yeah, termite and organised preparation of the buildings for demolition is all that is needed .. Jewish Space Lazors are not required and have been suggested by idiots convinced by glow niggers desperate to create doubt and uncertainty
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Doesn't matter in the end because afterwards they just kept using it as an excuse to bomb the middle east and import all the arabs into Europe and America. Should have just took the L and let it all be.
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>>542423106
Larry Silverstein and his son were mysteriously missing from work on 9/11
But so was Howard Lutnick and his sister. How convenient they survived. His entire office of 800 people died, leaving him and his sister as the only survivors
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>>542421545
>imo
>I have it on another hard drive
>I choose not to show you

I definitely believe you
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>>542422936

you obviously have no idea how tough it is to make a building fall into such a small footprint .. there are very few companies able to do that kind of work .. it doesn't 'just happen'
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>>542423000
> the engineering part
It's serious, no BS.
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>>542418672
Not really, no. There's a lot of disinformation in the form of conspiracy theories.

But no, I do not believe that two planes hitting WTC 1 and WTC 2 caused both of those towers as well as WTC 7 to collapse.

I don't think a plane hit the pentagon, I think it was a missile

Beyond that I don't know anything. I think the perpetrators were a mix of rogue people in the US government as well as Mossad and that they also employed dumb muslims to do the actual hijackings.

I also think there's a possibility that breakaway nazis got wind of this and decided to use advanced weaponry to actually collapse the towers themselves
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>>542423054
>ignores your own selective bias
>still coping
>in the case of Building 7, the weakest point in the chain is the base of the towers
Then why did the penthouse collapse first- several seconds before the rest of the building? Thats is not typical for a standard CD
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>>542423129
looky here faggot tranny shill, you're a faggot, you're a tranny, and you're a shill
>damaged
this can mean as little as a window was broken, faggot
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>>542422177
what other thing would glow cherry red/yellow as a liquid streaming out of a fire?
What's the temp that jet fuel burns at?
Whats the temp that metals turn this bright color and be a liquid?
How hot does thermite get?
Its molten metal. Simple as. And "jet fuel" can't get metal that hot.
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>>542423153
>coping this hard
lol. is cognitive dissonance or just plain ol retardation?
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>>542423153
>danny was most likely a paid demolition expert meant to confirm the official narrative
disagree
1 & 2 did not LOOK like conventional demolitions, at all
7, 100% LOOKED like a conventional controlled demolition
he didnt pay attention but as soon as he saw 7 he unequivocally said "that's a demolition"
if he were shilling the official narrative he would not have said that about bld 7
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>>542423161
>Jewish Space Lazors are not required
except for all that disappeared material
inb4
>THERE'S NO TECH OUT THERE WE DONT ALREADY KNOW ABOUT, IF IT EXISTED WE'D ALREADY KNOW
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>>542423329
I dunno how they rigged it mate. How do you expect me to know that?
Debating the physics of the collapse is pointless. Because it doesn't prove anything. The truth is, it could have been either. It could have been a normal collapse, or a controlled demolition. You can't determine which one it was by examining the collapse-pattern, or whatever you're trying to do.
Why debate over something that's ultimately inconclusive?

If you want to know it was a controlled demolition, look at everything else. Look at who owned the buildings, who leased the buildings, who was in the administration. Look at who was missing from work that day. It paints a very clear picture.
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>>542423269
>it doesn't 'just happen'
you just agreed with me you retard
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>>542421047
From that pic alone it's obvious that it flew above Westover before getting hijacked. Also, what were they supposed to do even if they knew it was hijacked? Fire at it for no apparent reason? Without orders?
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>>542422898
>>542423237
check this pathetic retard
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>>542423357
that's kind of beside the point, because if the metal was remotely hot then we would have all these pics of people touching bare metal
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>>542423475
>Debating the physics of the collapse is pointless. Because it doesn't prove anything. The truth is, it could have been either. It could have been a normal collapse, or a controlled demolition. You can't determine which one it was by examining the collapse-pattern
this is just you telling the thread you dont understand physics or chains of cause and effect
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>>542423357
>would glow cherry red/yellow as a liquid streaming out of a fire?
Aluminum and copper. Both were used extensively in the contruction of WTC1&2
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>>542420928
I thought this would be the videos from the gate cameras, but if you haven’t seen them it’s pretty obvious how it wasn’t a plane.
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>>542423475
>I dunno how they rigged it mate.
but somehow you do know it was rigged lol

sure thing mate
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>>542423432
not every shill thinks he is doing deception
they are selcted because they are good guys
that's why he reacted the way he did when he found out about wtc 7
"useful idiot" a good guy people will likely believe
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>>542423555
>From that pic alone it's obvious that it flew above Westover before getting hijacked.
ok cocaine kreskin
>Also, what were they supposed to do even if they knew it was hijacked? Fire at it for no apparent reason? Without orders?
the mere fact that there were no orders is telling
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>>542423657
>this is just you telling the thread you dont understand physics or chains of cause and effect
It's a chaotic system. It could have been caused by the fire. Or it could have been caused by thermite charges placed on the support columns by Larry Silversein. It could have been either.
Debating the physics of collapse gets us nowhere. The ultimate result of such a debate will just be a question mark, it's inconclusive.
Why not look at the money, the people, the interests behind it? Why was Howard Lutnick missing from work that day?
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>>542423525

i know faggot, that was my intent
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>>542418672
I would maybe believe it if a third tower didn't magically collapse the same way as well.
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>>542423765
this is also covered in the 5 hour documentary posted earlier
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>>542423707
The buildings had been purchased 1 month before by Larry Silverstein, who immediately did a massive renovation project on the elevator shafts. Come on dude.

They also predicted the collapse of Building 7 before it happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3e5KFyadUw

When interviewed about it, Larry Silverstein said he made the decision to "pull it"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3AuSABON2A
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>>542423338
>raging seethe
lmao. I accept your concession
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>>542423765
>It could have been caused by the fire.
I understand that for brainlets who cant into physics, the abandonment of the laws of physics on that day is just an idea that doesnt hold much connection to reality for them
but for those of us with good understanding of physics, it is quite blatant
there is no reason not to examine every angle, from the financial to the physical to the glowniggerish to the jewish
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>>542423898
ok plebbitor
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>>542423600
Nobody said 100% of the entire metal structure from ground floor to the top antenna was molten metal.
You aren't THAT fucking retarded, are you?
You seriously don't understand how some parts of a burning building are hotter than other parts?
Good lord.
>>542423662
You didn't answer my questions.
List the temps for each item.
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>>542419957
We all agree the world dont make sense, and we all agree that the answers were given as to why make even less sense
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>>542423941
>but for those of us with good understanding of physics, it is quite blatant
Physics has little to say about big chaotic systems like this with a million variables. Physics is good for very discrete problems, with simple motions. But physics is not going to tell you, one way or another, whether this was a controlled demolition or not. It depends on the elastic coefficient of steel, the sheer strength, the strength of the supports, the crossbeams, the exact heat of the fire.....etc. Too much is unknown. It's basically a black box problem, where we don't know what's happening in the box, all we know is, there's a collapse.
So why debate and speculate, when the debate ultimately has no firm conclusion? It could have been either one. Obviously a controlled demolition could have taken down the towers, everyone acknowledges that. But sure, the fire alone might have done it too, I concede that.
But I think if you examine everything else about this situation, such as the money, the people, the interests behind it, the controlled demolition theory becomes overwhelmingly likely.

To make a metaphor. It's like, there's a dead boy on the ground, and a grinning masked man standing over them with a knife. Then we debate whether the wounds on the body were caused by falling down the stairs, or the man with the knife.
I mean, sure I guess technically falling down the stairs could do that too. Sure, granted. It's never happened before, but who knows.
But the presence of the masked man kind of leads you towards a certain conclusion, right?
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>>542418672
>years without ANY clear evidence

https://gematriaeffect.news/austin-j-tobin-plaza-more-jesuit-fingerprints-on-the-world-trade-center/
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>>542424132
>Nobody said 100% of the entire metal structure from ground floor to the top antenna was molten metal.
and neither did I
but we all know where the collapse started
so logically if the collapse started there and just for hypothetical's sake jet fuel did weaken steel beams...
just where in the fuck would they have been weakened
thus it is that the people in the holes touching bare metal btfo the meme that jet fuel somehow got to 800, 900, 1000F and weakened the metal enough for collapse to happen
simple as
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>>542424244
>It's basically a black box problem
you already told us the problem is of this tier in your mind
>But sure, the fire alone might have done it too, I concede that.
and you wonder why I'm telling you that you are physics retarded and cant into that shit at all whatsoever?
if you're this physics retarded you should just avoid all discussion of physical matters, go post about Loose Change or something that you can remotely wrap your head around.
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>>542424319
you know what also weakens metal? Thermite charges placed on the support columns, by Larry Silverstein they crazy zionist, who had purchased the buildings 1 month before. The first time they went into private hands in 35 years. Recommended by Rondald Lauder, the other obsessed zionist, who is literally chairman of the World Jewish Committee.
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>>542422495
>>542422619
Buildings of that extraordinary size and construction type can't be brought down in a controlled way with any "conventional" method. This always requires a custom procedure and that takes into account their specific design.
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>>542424456
Just one of the many, many breathtaking coincidences...
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>>542424456
reminder that thermite doesnt disappear massive amounts of steel
the richter scale readings confirm that a fraction of the impact that should have taken place akshually happened
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>>542424466
Rabbi Says Good Bye Twin Towers Before 9/11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9d7e2jSHvs
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>>542424447
>and you wonder why I'm telling you that you are physics retarded and cant into that shit at all whatsoever?
I have a physics degree bro. From a top university.
But I'm not here to brag about myself.

Anyway the whole point of the physics debate is to make the case the towers could have collapsed by fire. Then to assert, that means by Occam's razor conspiracies are null and void. But in this case, I think the facts surrounding the event are so suggestive, that Occam's razor actually falls on the other side. I think the best default hypothesis is they were brought down in a controlled demolition.
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>>542424606
didn't mean to reply but whatever
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>>542424132
>List the temps for each item.

Aluminum: Melts at 660°C (1,220°F). Because this is right at the very bottom of the scale, it melts into a liquid silver pool before it ever reaches the temperature needed to glow brightly.

Bronze and Copper: Melt between 900°C and 1,083°C (1,652°F – 1,981°F). When they turn to liquid, they are already glowing a distinct bright orange-red.

Iron and Steel: Melt around 1,370°C to 1,540°C (2,500°F – 2,800°F). By the time steel liquefies, it is so hot that it glows a brilliant yellowish-white.

The buildings were filled with copper:

Heavy-duty copper bus ducts to transfer high-voltage power vertically through the core of the buildings to electrical substations placed every few floors.Massive copper-wound elevator motors: The complex used the largest elevator traction machines in the world at the time, built by Otis. Each of the primary express elevator motors weighed roughly 26 tons and relied heavily on massive copper field windings and large commutator

During a retrofit push to aggressively install automatic sprinkler systems throughout the entire complex, one official famously joked that the massive undertaking would "eat up every mile of copper pipe east of the Mississippi."

Sheet metal and roofing records also indicate that customized copper ductwork and flashing were hand-fabricated and soldered on-site for the massive commercial kitchens and restaurants
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>>542424630
>I have a physics degree bro. From a top university.
and my dad works at nintendo
only retards think fires could have brought the towers down
only idiots think let fuel weakened the steel enough that they just all magically came down like that
its really stupid af for you to type the garbage you type and then try to tell us you have a mother fuckin physics degree
get that bullshit right the fuck out of here and go back to where you came from
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>>542418672
I've looked into this extensively. I've seen everything. Dr Judy Gold... the dancing Israelis. Lucky Larry. That bullshit with a hijackers passport being found.

I'm still not convinced it was anything that sandniggers pissed off. Maybe Israel had advanced knowledge. Because that dancing shit I haven't been able to mentally debunk. It's really difficult to debate retards here because there are literal schizos and you will exhaust yourself to death trying to reason with unreasonable people.

It's hard to find a logical straight answer. Because if it was for war/profit... the shit going on in Iran today would be the more likely path as opposed to sacrificing Americans for some stupid reason (profit)
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>>542419096

100% This
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>>542424757
only retards have cartoon logic where explosives were planted without anyone noticing and once planes flew into them they hit a magical "detonate" button. you're infantile and live in a fantasy world yet call people retards. it goes back to my point of debating schizos... you literally are delusional so there's no reasoning with you. you're just gonna triple down despite there being physics that explain why a weakened building dropping on top of itself weighing tens of thousands of tons collapsed.
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>>542418672
There probably were explosives planted in buildings because it was a common practice during the cold war.
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>>542424757
only retards makes arguments from incredulity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity
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>>542423475
This is the problem right here, the goyim argue with you over the pointless details and dont look to see who stood to benefit
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I hate you retards. You literally deny every single aspect of reality and you think you're not a dumb fucking schizo. There's no moon. There's no space. There's no nukes. The 9/11 attacks never happened. There were no planes. People never die they're just pretending. No wonder nothing ever happens in your world since you deny everything that happens. FUCK YOU SCHIZO.
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>>542420626
quickly- build a massive wall, built it immediately you bastard
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>>542418672
why are turks living in goymany so buckbroken?
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>>542418672

MOSSciAD Bankster,
Alvin "Buzzy" Bernard Krongard
https://www.bollyn.com/13697/

UNZ background on 911
https://www.unz.com/article/israel-did-9-11/
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>>542425759
that is such retarded logic
like putting a back do program in your secure enclave

if the enemy finds it then it can be used against you
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>>542418672
>Without any clear evidence
Kys kike
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>>542418672
>without ANY clear evidence
The problem is that the official narrative also has no clear evidence
>Jet fuel melts steel beams at WTC but not plastic and wood in Pentagon
>No plane debris at Pentagon (inb4 "these pics released in 2020")
>Planes evaporated but passports found intact (that part is actually hilarious, that anyone could fall for that)
>Not one of 4 black boxes in NY recovered
>Two planes three towers
>US military has a "what if a plane hit WTC" on a day plane hit WTC so nobody could see it coming
>Immediately after, all flights grounded except for planes flying around the US and collecting members of Bin Laden family, before anybody knew Osama did it (if he did it)
And so on
You'd have to be a real dumbass not to find it sus
And so on
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>>542419763
Gut wrenching
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>>542427026
Osama was based even when he worked for the clowns in america, not so much when he fought against poccия
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>>542419096
two things
9/11 was the end of the last Clinton budget.
9/11 took all of the Clinton years to set up, and last passed budget expiring around 9/11.

the Bush team had literally nothing to do with any of it, but they got all of the blame. as if the Bush team could set that shit up in like nine months.
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>>542425278
Bump

Adding to this post

(pic related)

should be Mandatory posted in every thread about 9/11 or surveillance.

Please check the site out for yourself and then Disseminate the important information within far and wide

I Denounce the talmud and freemasonry

Jesus Christ is Lord and sovereign King
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>>542427371
Bump

Adding to this, a very based post from the site owner Himself.

(pic related) please read it and check out the site
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>>542427026
>Jet fuel melts steel beams
>troofer memes
that was never part of the official narrative. Steel begins to lose structural integrity and load bearing cpacity at 400°f
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>>542427371
>>542427450
Bump

Adding to my posts here, another extremely based post from the site owner Himself. Please read it and check out the site for yourself
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why are there still retards that think structural steel has to melt to fail?
once that concrete was poured, the weight of the floor would tear at those steel attachment points for the floor.

the building was purpose constructed in that fashion to fail straight down.
and it wouldn't need much extra help once the floors started piling up from above.

people forget that the twin towers were unique in that they had no mid floor pillars for floor support. each floor was like a square donut.
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>>542427553
400f .. for HOW LONG ?? literally hours before it has any effect NIST had to calculate gymnastics and worst case scenario to even get close
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>>542421601
Geräucherte Bregenwurst
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https://www.mintpressnews.com/tag/dancing-israelis/

"there to document the event"
*URBAN MOVING SYSTEMS*
Dominik Otto Suter
Sivan Kurzberg
Paul Kurzberg
Yaron Shmuel
Oded Ellner
Omer Marmari
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>>542427553
At what temperature does plastic lose structural integrity ? Picrel
Also this >>542428029
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>>542427026
>No plane debris at Pentagon
just not factual. There was plenty of plane debris and plenty of pictures of it immediately
>passports found intact
>hilarious, that anyone could fall for that
argument from incredulity. fallacy. if you think about it, if it was in the front shirt pocket of a hijacker in the cockpit it would have potentially been one of the first things out the other side. lots of stuff from the plane was found on the streets below. It seems unlikey but that doesnt mean it couldnt happen.
>Not one of 4 black boxes in NY recovered
I dont find that unlikely at all. Of course, there is no plane debris at the pentagon...except for the black boxes they found lol
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>>542427342
Then why did the nose punch through the other side like its was paper mache?
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>>542421748
pictures aren't so bad
but it still sucks to watch this in motion
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>>542428029
NIST says temps were over 1000f. If you have any evidence to the contrary other than incredulity and speculation- im all ears- regardless....the claim that the narrative is jet fuel melted steel beams is completely false and yet taken as truth by troofers
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>>542428338
>There was plenty of plane debris and plenty of pictures of it immediately
Picrel
>if you think about it, if it was in the front shirt pocket of a hijacker in the cockpit it would have potentially been one of the first things out the other side.
Where would it go, into the fire ?
>I dont find that unlikely at all.
Because you're a shill.
>50 accidents in the history where black boxes were unrecovered
>60% of those because of deep ocean
>30% because remote inaccessible area
>10% 9/11
Kek
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>>542428360
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>>542427730
>the building was purpose constructed in that fashion to fail straight down.
In other words, the jews planned all the way back in the 60s? HOLY SHIT!!!
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>>542427730
Would you agree that it's possible for a controlled demolition to have the same effect as what we witnessed though, right?
So both are possible
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>>542429197
>Would you agree that it's possible for a controlled demolition to have the same effect as what we witnessed though, right?
>So both are possible
all you would need to do is start the chain reaction. those steel tabs are all that held up those floors.
>>542429097
they also built it as a blasphemy against Mecca. but I don't think they knew when they would demolish it when they built it. just a convenient "Lusitania" for future use.
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>>542428899
>Picrel
so? I can post pics of debris if you. 3 second search will find you dozens

>>542428899
>Where would it go, into the fire ?
but a bunch of stuff came out the other side and other debris from the planes, personal belongings etc...were found. so technically possible

>Hurrdurr
again incredulity is not an argument. How many black boxes from planes crashing into 110 story buildings had been found before??
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>>542423600
the plane left a pixelized-looking hole with the sheer force and precision of the impact, slicing through i beams like a pair of scissors through play doh
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>>542429409
Look, both are possible. It's indeed possible that Larry Silverstein contracted with various Israeli companies in NYC and loaded up the support columns with thermite charges. As we know the elevator shafts were under construction in the very weeks before the attack.
So it's indeed possible, I think you'll admit.

But once you see the circumstances, a certain conclusion pops out at you.

To put it one way, it's like there's a body on the ground, and a hooded man with a knife standing over the body. It's perfectly possible they died from falling down the stairs. Of course that's never happened like that before, but it's indeed possible. Or it's possible the hooded, grinning man standing over the body had something to do with it.
A rational person, upon getting that context, would suspect foul play, right?
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>>542429735
>ai watermark
nigga please
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>>542418672
Yeah. I guess building 7 collapsed from Climate Change ® and the twin towers were brought down by Long Covid ® and OP is most definitely not an epic turbo faggot.
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>>542429447
>That picrel
Where are the wings
Why are plastic housings of computers intact
Why aren't walls even charred
>How many black boxes from planes crashing into 110 story buildings had been found before??
What an absolutely kike argument. So if it hits a mountain boxes will survive but if it hits a building they will evaporate ?
And saying my argument is from incredulity, TOP KEK
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>>542418672
jews were behind it, like they're behind almost every other horrible thing.
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>>542418672
Saudindus have nothing to worry about
since they are best pals with the Bush and Trump families
All those conspiracies have only one goal:
to protect Saudindu Arabia
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Prophecy Engineering: The year 2000, or 5760 in the Hebrew calendar, was predicted to be the year of redemption according to Rabbi Elijah ben Solomon Zalman, the preeminent Torah scholar of the 18th century known as the Vilna Gaon. In Israel, the day is written before the month, so 9-II becomes the ninth day of the eleventh month. In the Hebrew calendar, 9-II is Tisha B’Av, the day of mourning when the two Temples were destroyed.

Zohar Balak, 212b - "I will show you, but not for now, for these things will only come to be at that time, some after time and some in the Days of King Mashiach. "A star has gone forth Jacob ..." Numbers 24-17. This teaches us that in the future, the Holy One, Blessed is He, will build Jerusalem, and one star will spark within seventy pillars of fire and seventy sparks will receive light from it in the middle of the sky. The other seventy stars will be swallowed within it. It will give off light and blaze for seventy days. At the end of the sixth day it will become visible at the beginning of the twenty-fifth day of the sixth month. It will be gathered in at the end of seventy complete days and be visible in the city of Rome, and on that day, three great walls will fall and a great hall will fall, and the power of that city will die."

"Rome, power of that city will die."
Esau/Edom/Rome/West/America/NYC

"Three Great Walls"
WTC1/North Boaz Pillar
WTC2/South Jachin Pillar
WTC7 Salomon Bros/King Solomon

"Great Hall"
D0D Pentagon
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The government would rather have conspiracy theories going around instead of bringing attention to the truth of "We fucked up and missed something obvious and thousands died as a result."
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>>542422809
>Posts stills in 2026
https://youtu.be/HwRfgUCOM_o
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>>542428360
>Then why did the nose punch through the other side like its was paper mache?
because, there's literally nothing in between each floor to the sides of the elevator shaft.

there are no normal support pillars anywhere.
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>>542429893
>loaded up the support columns
there are no support columns

skin and elevator shaft. nothing in between. a revolutionary design unique to the twin towers
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>>542431038
Yeah the support columns were located right around the elevator shaft. And, what do you know the elevator shafts were offline in the weeks preceding the attack. What a massive coincidence.
It also seems like they did something about the "skin" as well. Because there is that suspicious footage of molten metal dripping off the skin of the towers, like thermite charges had been placed there. Silverstein controlled the entire building, setting something like that up is well within his capability.
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>>542430973
MemeFag exposed just how dumb you are.
(or how shilly).
Literally shows you how strong that structure is. A MASSIVE reinforced concrete core, with MASSIVE lattice of iron skeleton on the outer walls.
LITERALLY engineered to withstand an AIRLINER CRASHING INTO IT
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>>542430973
>>542431371
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>>542430973
>because, there's literally nothing in between each floor to the sides of the elevator shaft.
Except inch thick T-steel beams
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>>542418672
9/11 never happened, that just a meme pic
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There is such strong evidence that it starts to be obvious after just a few minutes of looking into it (if your heart is already opened to the truth of the jewish question).
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>>542431681
There's a lot of disinfo conspiracies running cover. Like people who believe it was lasers, or missiles, or holograms. It seems like these types of bonkers conspiracies are seeded intentionally to pollute the narrative.
The producer of Loose Change was a jew.
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>>542430043
>So if it hits a mountain boxes will survive but if it hits a building they will evaporate ?
its buried under 500,000 tons of steel and debris. They were likley pulverized by the release of a trillion jules worth of energy during collapse. I am incredulous that you expected them to survive lol

>>542430043
>Where are the wings
dont know. but you can clearly see where they hit
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>>542418672
I think the most likely case is that the dude who leased the building and took out insurance against terrorist attacks definitely had prior knowledge that it would happen. The US government probably had prior knowledge it would happen. But it was actually planned and carried out by terrorists
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>>542418672
Ya tootaly dood. It's so much easier to go along with laughably bad storylines than to employ critical thinking.
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>>542431341
>Because there is that suspicious footage of molten metal dripping off the skin of the towers, like thermite charges had been placed there.
thermite is also created when steel is sheered. any charges would only have to drop a couple floors to get the chainreaction going. all the smoke billowing out is concrete girders encrusted with non-asbestos fire proofing (asbestos was banned half-way through construction).
explosions would also occur when hot aluminum (plane) makes contact with water in the building.
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>>542431919
Whoever planned the attacks chose American airports with Israeli companies handling the security at those airports. It wasn't Islamic terrorism.
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>>542431919
it was allowed to occur
US m/o for entry into war
case in point: any war we’ve been to
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>>542431890
>its buried under 500,000 tons of steel and debris.

Which was all cleared
>They were likley pulverized by the release of a trillion jules worth of energy during collapse.
Yet a passport survived intact
Why didn't plastic computer housings and wooden desks in Pentagon burn
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>>542432025
>Israeli companies handling the security at those airports
no way
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>>542431371
>LITERALLY engineered to withstand an AIRLINER CRASHING INTO IT
how would you know for sure, in the time of sliderules?
I know who would know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emery_Roth
World Trade Center (1972–1973) with Minoru Yamasaki

what if, and I know it's a reach, but what if the kikes who designed the buildings lied.
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>>542432030
Yes, that's what I implied by saying the US government probably had prior knowledge of the attack. They didn't do anything to stop it because it would help push the Iraq war. But it likely wasn't an inside job in the sense that it was fully planned and orchestrated by the US
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>>542431341
>the elevator shafts were offline in the weeks preceding the attack.
everybody had to walk up a 100 floors for weeks?
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>>542431588
>Except inch thick T-steel beams
where?
are you counting the temporary crane structures?
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>>542431890
>dont know. but you can clearly see where they hit
Not really, wings cut through steel of WTC but somehow not through Pentagon
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>>542431371
>AIRLINER CRASHING INTO IT
indeed. the scenario was a 707 "lost in the fog" traveling at 200mph....

...and yet the towers DID withstand an airliner crashing into them- just not the resulting fires
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>>542432151
I'm not sure. Perhaps they had a lift working, these office buildings have more than one lift.
But yeah, they were doing massive renovations on the elevator shafts. The lobby was all cordoned off with construction tape and construction equipment. Larry Silverstein had bought the towers 1 month earlier, the first time in 35 years they went into private hands. He immediately started a massive renovation project.
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>>542432204
>Why did two very different constructions react differently to an impact?
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>>542424244
>Physics has little to say about big chaotic systems like this with a million variables. Physics is good for very discrete problems, with simple motions
You're a mouth breathing retard that probably failed high school physics. Absolute drooling mongoloid.
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>>542432204
>steel of WTC
a thin facade versus 21 inch thick steel columns surrounded by 5 inch layer of limestone and 8 inch layer of brick. do the math kiddo.
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>>542432444
>Why did two very different constructions react differently
The pic shows the similarity, not difference you dumb fuck
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>>542418672
crazy how the same thing happened to UFOs and every other occult topic the last 100 years eh?
lol reptilians xD
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Project for the New American Century = ZIONIST DEATH CULT

PNAC was a neoconservative think tank made up of a who’s who of American neocons. Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan were the founders. Among their proposals was the so-called Wolfowitz Doctrine crafted by Paul Wolfowitz which called for massive military spending and preemptive invasions of foreign nations hostile to America, and specifically called for a “NEW PEARL HARBOR” to justify said policies.

It’s important to note that Wolfowitz was a student of political philosopher Leo Strauss who taught that political elites should see themselves as philosopher kings and lie to the vulgar masses of people in order to keep the masses in-check. When philosophers aren’t ruling overtly, they should rule covertly. Bill and his father Irving Kristol were due-hard followers of Strauss and sought to implement his thought any way they could. The Straussian cabal is very real and has been carefully manipulating American politics from the Nixon era onward.

Also, Clean Break was a bipartisan predecessor to PNAC that called for a U.S. invasion of Iraq as early as 1999 under the name “Operation Desert Crossing.”

Given that the 25th anniversary of 9/11 is underway can we all admit PNAC did 9/11?

POWER OF NIGHTMARES
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3Gc

Zionist Jew YouTuber: "Claiming Jews were behind Iraq War is 'BLOOD LIBEL.'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUA2Sy3jAZE&t=6013s
(1:40:13)

>"oy vey goyim, let us lie and deceive the public and give us the oil and let us establish a rothschild bank"
They aren't even making an effort to hide it anymore.

Total neocon death
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>>542432061
>Yet a passport survived intact
again with the fallacy. Other personal items from the plane survived. stuff was ejected out the other side on impact. We know the dude was on the plane lol
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>>542432605
>21 inch thick steel columns
So you're just making shit up now
See pic >>542428245
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>>542432598
Too many unknowns. You don't know exactly how the support beams were structured, the specific heat of the materials, the heat of the fire....etc. You really don't know. You can try to cobble together a model, but it will always have that uncertainty.

At the end of the day, the only thing you've proved is that it's *possible* the building collapsed by fire. But it's also possible it was a controlled demolition. Both are possible.
But if you look at the money, the people, the interest swirling around all of this, it paints an explicit picture of murder. There's literally a man with a knife standing over the body, and you're arguing the body died from falling down the stairs.
Then you get caught up debating whether it's possible someone falling down the stairs could acquire cuts and broken bones in that exact configuration....maybe? It's a chaotic system? It's never happened before, and that's not very characteristic, but sure you can create a plausible case. But you still haven't addressed the little matter of the man with the knife standing over the body.
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>>542432136
>But it likely wasn't an inside job in the sense that it was fully planned and orchestrated by the US
it required that the US government be siloed up by the Clinton admin.
the Jamie Gorelick memo.
9/11 was in the works before the Gorelick memo. that was just to protect the insiders who don't play by the rules.
>https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna4721976
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>>542432752
>Other personal items from the plane survived.
So a bunch of paper and plastic trinkets survived but black boxes evaporated
Cool story
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>>542432061
>Which was all cleared
yup. 1.8 million tons of debris was hauled away. Its not like they didnt look for them lol.
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>>542432062
Arabs are too stupid to carry out any sophisticated terrorist attacks. It wasn't them.
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>>542431890
so the armored black boxes meant to survive insane crashes vanished.... but the PAPER PASSPORTS magically survived unscathed and floated gently down to the sidewalk where lucky FBI agents just happened to look down and collect a bunch of their passports....
OK
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>>542432764
no. steel support columns were 21 inches square on the ground floor. 14 inches on the second
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>>542418672
Here ye here ye OP is a faggot
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>>542418672
If you believe towers of that structure and size could fall from fire you're clinically retarded, the official narrative will never stood because of that alone
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>>542419800
Why do you have a commie meme flag?



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