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>A Severe Misalignment of AI in Mathematics
Signed by 25 fields medalists.
https://mathandai.org/
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>>542424987
it's incredible that mathematicians were this naïve about the true nature of capitalism
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>>542424987
Fearmongering about AI is Lame
>IPO of Anthropic about to happen in a few weeks time
/pol/ is wise to mercantile tricks.
Better shill the hype factory somewhere else
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HAHAHAHAHAAH they are panicking bc they are outsmarted
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>>542425190
Contd

And in the very minute chance that AI will even bother to kill us all
Good

the actual reality is that AI will not give a fuck about humans
Humans are pathetic
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>>542424987
>We are witnessing a general threat to intellectual work, with misalignment between the outcome of the use of AI and its initial purpose. In many fields and activities, years of training have traditionally served not only to produce a final answer or product, but also to develop understanding and the ability to formulate new questions and ideas. However, building on a vast body of previous human work, AI systems are becoming increasingly capable of producing the results of such work directly, and these goals cease to align. The issues the mathematical community faces now are similar to issues that other scientific and creative professions are facing, and indicate issues that all of humanity might face: how to make sure that, as AI changes the way work is done, we do not lose sight of what that work was meant to achieve in the first place.

i.e. they thought the ivory tower would protect them from capitalism
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>>542424987
Almost all of STEM, maybe except for biology, will be archived and dealt with like classical music within a decade from now.
It's unironically over for STEM fags
>t. STEM fag
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>>542425321
fuck em honestly
i liked it better when european jews ruled math and did cool shit
now its just scamming wunderkind chinks and visajeets
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>>542425153
I.. Would not be the loud mouth guy with that flag haha.
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>>542425321
>i.e. they thought the ivory tower would protect them
What part of LLM they didn't get? Math is just another language, shit they had it coming way before any plumber.
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in capitalism, knowledge is only valued for its ability produce commodities: education, growth, and self-development of the individual do not matter to capitalists.

but they lack foresight: an ignorant West will not be able to compete with China
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>>542424987
If I can't make a living from philosophy why are math nerds supposed to make a living from math? Their math is not the applied math that helps physicists and engineers with solving real world problems. Their math is counting how many angels fit on a pin point.
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>>542425846
>Their math is counting how many angels fit on a pin point.

it would have been extremely difficult to get to quantum theory and modern electronics without imaginary numbers
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>>542424987
Jewish tax leeches seething AI is ending their LARP career
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>>542425963
And yet 99% of math study is pointless jewry
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>>542426109
math is the language of the higher mind
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>>542424987
no one cares that mathematicians want to bogard proofs.
now that midwits can do math with tools, their opinion is irrelevant.
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>>542426157
My calculations say you should kill yourself, mathematically proven, sorry champ
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>>542426157
Math says only schizophrenic satanist kikes worship math. Sorry bro its objective truth.
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da fuk terry gon do?
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>>542424987
Are they really saying that people should stop using AI to advance math theory because they don't want to lose their jobs? At least with art I can empathize with the idea that it's supposed to be an expression of humanity, and with programming the AI output can just be garbage code; but you just CAN'T complain about using it to learn something new about the very foundations of our universe. This should be all of the evidence you need to not listen to people just because they are smart and educated.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsOZ1NKInsE
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>>542425473
cool story, shlomo
the great mathemticians of history are europeans, not jews
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>>542424987
KWAB, Terry Tao spent the last 8 years glazing AI, and now that the AI made him his Lee Sedol bitch he's suddenly all about stopping AI lmao
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>>542425253
You are a faggot with shit for skin, and it's honestly disgusting that you think you are human or have any common plights with us. It's also incomprehensible that something so unworthy of life thinks that it's opinion has any relevance or any nuance behind it.
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>>542425153
sir we had an enounter this morning (on my side)

I apologize for my unbound pride
I saw the photo of your magic books and since I am learning too I hope we can have succesfull magic career

sincerely, anon
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>>542427374
What an idiotic post
Looks like it was made by a drooling retard
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If Chatgpt can do your job then you don’t have a real job
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>>542424987
CHING CHONG CHING CHONG
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>>542427233
241 is the 23rd Ramanujan Prime.

Srinivasa Ramanujan credited his mathematical insights to the Hindu goddess Namagiri Thayar (Goddess Mahalakshmi) of Namakkal, saying he received visions and formulas in dreams after seeing blood drops symbolizing her consort, Narasimha.
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>>542427380
<3
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>>542424987
You see where this is going right? Mathematicians etc. are going to start protecting their work so it can't be stolen and fed to the LLMs, or if it is it will have markers to identify it. This shit is going to bottleneck knowledge hardcore.
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>>542425253
Do you feel safe because jeets aren’t human? Will AI care about brown dungmunching roaches?
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>>542424987
Maybe we would have traveled to Jupiter by now if mathematicians would work together, AI finally solved for Math Geek Gatekeeping by forcing 40,000 virtual math professors to work together for the common good.

I am pretty sure the Millennial Prize could have been solved by humans except everyone wants to just win it by themselves.
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>>542424987
this is odd
I'm a software engineer. and not a grunt either. Worked in SV for 10+ years at the top level. Sold a startup.
I love working with AI. It makes the job a lot more enjoyable by taking away the tedium, and allowing you to think at a higher level.
It improves the quality of work and the your quality of life.
Maybe fewer people will be employed doing it, but that's a separate consideration.
This makes me thing that being a mathematician is really another brand of jew babbysiting
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Math people when they realize AI is starting to replace them before robots have put plumbers and truckers out of work
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>>542427573
They certainly wont care about whites
They are stupid and wont do shit

Whites can't even control their own borders or their women much less AI
Why would AI even care about such pathetic creatures
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>>542424987
Oh, what's that, little STEM chinky? You thought the AI would be your friend? Lmfao get mogged slope!
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>>542424987
> hey mathematicians look at this new AI model you can use it for free research
> AI steals your research and takes credit for it
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>>542427435
how is he wrong, tho
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>>542427565
They'll try, like everyone else, and they'll fail. Their industry is now obsolete
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>>542425153
Most of them never game a fuck about making money. That's why they're not working at hedge funds. They just wanted to be left alone and focus on writing proofs.
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>>542425153
Wurmbrand was right all along
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>>542427188
> Are they really saying
They don't say but probably mean it.
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>>542427712
you'd be surprised, nigger
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>>542427533
thank god you read it I'll making some poetry tonight :3
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>>542427685
LLMs are nothing without being fed. You don't seem to give a shit about copyright or attribution, which is typical of SV faggots. Bunch no ethics, greedy fucks.
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>>542425253
>the actual reality is that AI will not give a fuck about humans

Correct which is why when they build a Dyson sphere and steal the suns energy from us we will all die from a 2nd order effect of their actions
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>>542427912
Yeah right, wanker
Two moar weeks
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>open link
>it's the fucking classic claude css style
could they at least try to not look retarded?
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>>542427973
You literally eat shit
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>>542424987
Aside from the subhumans in the thread, i.e. niggers like >>542426061
What's at stake here is really the fact that these companies are vacuuming up public work and taking away the ability to collaborate in academic circles.
When OpenAI stole that researcher's framework by ingesting it, then raced to solve the millenium problem, they effectively plagarized the researcher.
If some nigger took something that you were working on, and raced to complete it as a benchmark of their shitty model, spending $20+ million dollars in compute to do so, for a prize of $1 million dollars and the prestige that comes from these problems, that's effectively theft.
So, these academics and really anyone has to keep their intellectual ideas away from the public (from ingesting it into training data) and away from these companies, lest your shit gets stolen by a company that can regurgitate, copy and solve your idea/art/video for a subscription fee.
It's napster, but for *ideas*.
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>>542427961
That is a possible outcome
I just dont think a Dyson sphere is possible though, even for AI
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>we need to solve these worthless problems for the bettermeant of mankind
>ok here
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT NOOOOOO REEEEEEEE I DIDNT TAKE ALL THOSE SWIRLIES TO NOT GET PAID NOOOOOOOOO
haha dumb eggheads
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This has to be the most pretentious thing I've ever read. These fags are literally arguing that math isn't actually about the math it's about UNDERSTANDING! The solution is irrelevant to them. They're basically saying that we should just stop using AI for math, because it threatens their ivory tower.

TIL the only point of math is stroking mathematicians egos. That's literally what this letter is saying.
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>>542427188
no, that's not what they're saying. mathematicians and programmers should (and will) continue to use LLMs. the problem is that math isn't just about making proofs, and programming isn't just about shitting out code. autistically burning out billions to churn out slop with no purpose other than to say "I did this", with no regard to what you're actually going to do with the discovery (and often, no understanding of what you even did) is completely pointless
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>>542428197
>Spaghetti math go bbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>Noooo not like thatttt!!!!
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>>542425963
Which were already explored to a sufficient degree by the end of the 19th century.

Pure math contribution are basically nothing but wank since 150+ years
However, applied math (anything dealing with finding solution to non-linear problems really) is how we got most 70's and beyond tech.
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>>542425846
How a mathematical point can take an arithmetic value when by its definition it has zero dimensions? Math is just blinkers or tunnel vision compounding upon itself.
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>>542428202
>it's about UNDERSTANDING!
Yes, the solution is about understanding. Because in this case, the model basically only copies and applies brute force with the framework that was stolen from another researcher.
If you take away the people that actually understand and produce the ideas and understand how the shit works, you're not going to get fancy technologies that take advantage of it.
Some incomprehensible proof achieved through brute force by what are effectively swarms of autistic retards that have been trained on the sum of human understanding and knowledge (and stolen ideas), socialized a small bit, does not truly advance understanding that would apply across potential scientific disciplines and advances in technology.
It shits out an incomprehensible proof or conjecture that only solves that problem as a benchmark.
A text generator does not truly *understand*.



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