Why is Europe so historically Russophobic? Does Europe allow America to influence their perceptions of modern day Russia as "the bad guy" way too much?Why are euros so specifically gullible to America's Anti-Russian propaganda?Is this ever going to change?
>>542425399The Soviets seriously abused their satellite states, hence why after the fall of the Soviet Union not a single one of them wanted to remain with Russia. Read a history book sometime.
Slavs are bleached niggersI don't need propaganda to tell me that. Dealing with them has taught me that.
Anglo propaganda because Russia + the rest of Europe wouldn't need Britain, whose historical geopolitical / geoeconomic niche is manipulating, undermining, and parasitizing off of other nations
>>542425399The USSR was obviously very bad. Relations did pretty much normalize after 1991 but then turned sour in the early 00s. Not quite sure why, I assume it's because they didn't just submit to Israel's plan for the Middle East and also didn't accept the new super woke ideology leaders in the West was spreading. I actually think we could see relations improve though. AfD is pro Russia and lots of other nationalist parties in Europe that are all gaining territory wants peace and trade with Russia. USA is losing influence in Europe too.
>>542425399Russia has no money (capital) and has a tendency of sending europeans to Siberia to fill their arctic countryside which is how they were created.
>>542425399>Why is Europe so historically Russophobic?Anglokikes.
>>542425399Sorry, but any respect or sympathy I might have had for Russia pretty much evaporated when you invaded Ukraine and started indiscriminately murdering civilians; Bucha was disgusting, Mariupol was equally vile, and we've had 5 years of barbaric war crimes and atrocities from Russia since. I'm sure most Europeans are equally disgusted by this behavior.
why are americans such russaboos? they're asiatic right wing christians who ethnically replace white people in eastern europe and bleech chrukas in the eastits just another mutt empire so i can see the affinity
>>542425399Europe was always Russophobic, but it became widespread with the advent of Sovietphobia and cold war.The western elites lied to their citizens, said Russia wants war, they will take your crosses away (Christianity was allowed ever since late 1930s, cold war was in the 50s btw), they will take your toothbrush away (they actually didn't), they want war (they don't)Russophobia is basically western governments brainwashing the most gullible part of their populations. Sad, but no clear solution has presented itself so far.
>>542426067Bucha is still disputed, and what exactly happened in Mariupol? Russian Federation never killed anyone in Mariupol. Quite the opposite, they brought more people with them to revitalize the city! they constructed new buildings.
>>542425399>Why is Europe so historically Russophobic?why do most humans have a natural aversion to snakes?
>>542425399>Why is Europe so historically Russophobic?Russia spent the last 500 years trying to take pieces of Europe. And they're still doing it as we speak.
>>542426248>"they brought more people with them to revitalize the city">replacing white people with mutts is fine if gommunism
>>542425860>USA is losing influence in Europe too.Saying this after Ursula completely cucked to Trump and got raped by his 15% tariffs
>>542425527thread has been fippy bippy'd
europeans are old colonizers and servile faggots so russia had to liberate them from being slaves to aristocracy like the cucks that they are. now they seethe and cope bc russia wont cuck to the new jewish aristocracy
>>542426202You really think propaganda is the reason why people disliked the USSR? lol. Remind me, were people fleeing from or to the USSR?
same reason they hate china. euros are stupid as fuck.
>>542426291Can you explain why Ukrainians are "white" but Russians are not?I mean I know that the whole idea of """white race""" is extremely arbitrary and stupid, but this is a new low. Russians and Ukrainians share 99% of genes. So either they are both "white" or neither.
>>542426248>Bucha is still disputedNo it isn't retardRussians braged about it on telegramSoviets collaborated with nazis at the start of WW2they have always been duplicitous cunts
>>542425399stfu Zigger
>>542425860>normalize after 1991 but then turned sour in the early 00sin 1991 russia had to take a break from imperiaslim because they were bankruptby the early 2000's they made some money back and restarted their imperialism it's that simple
>>542426293You think him putting tariffs on the EU increases their influence? aggression from the US has caused increasing decoupling. You don't understand how this works.
>>542426356It is one thing to not want to live there, it is one thing to be deranged and phobic.I do not like Uganda for example, yet I don't spend my day checking the bushes if there is a Ugandan admiral preparing invasion of NATO, neither do I believe that Ugandans are fed to 519 starving wolves if they disobey the presidentNotice: the difference.
>>542425399>Is this ever going to change?after rus*sia is no more
>>542426356Better yetWhat happened to people who tried to leave USSR?
>>542426474It shows that EU has either zero cards or zero balls, and I am not sure which is worse
>>542426450What did they do that was imperialist? also stop being a butthurt belter.
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>>542426425soviets never collaborated with nazis. that is so stupid and proper neokike propaganda. you should be beaten to death like a plague rat.
>>542426489I wish Uganda was Slovenia's neighbor or rather, I wish retards like you moved to Africa
>>542426489Well Uganda has made 0 nuclear threats to the civilized world recentlyhow many did Russia made in the last month zigger
from russia i only hate non-slavic nations - tatars, mongols, chechens. ethnic russians are genetically close to us so i wish them best but fuck the rest of russia
>>542426425You are correct that Bolsheviks were the most pro-German administration in Russia ever since WWI, but it was the Germans who backstabbed.Still bolsheviks are partially to blame for their stupid belief in internationalism! We nationalists knew how this would end
>>542426608If Uganda made nuclear threats, would you spend every minute being afraid and deranged?
>>542426534>What did they do that was imperialist?attacked Georgia in 2008annexed Crimea in 2014invaded the rest of ukraine in 2022>also stop being a butthurt belter.as soon as you stop sucking russian cock
>>542425399read about alexander nevsky hero and saint of russiaits russia who is aniteuropean and europeans were never russorealistic enough
>>542425399Why is Europe so historically Russophobic? Because the TV RAT MEDIA tell you lies in order to steal public money to protect you from the BAD PEOPLE..5 BILLION TO PROTECT YOU FROM THE BAD PEOPLE YET THEY ONLY SPEND 2 BILLION FOR THE FAKE BAD PEOPLE THUS RUNNING AWAY WITH 3 BILLION TO SPLIT BETWEEN THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS..And RUSSIA will do the same,,TELL THEIR PEOPLE ABOUT THE WEST BAD PEOPLE..KERCHING FOR YOUR CORRUPT LEADERS...WW1 and WW2 was FAKE WARS..STOCK MARKET BETS,,PUBLIC CONTRACTS,,BANKERS DEBT YOU ALL HAVE TO PAY IN INTEREST FOR BORROWING MONEY FOR FAKE WARS..EVERYTHING IS 1 BIG LIE...THE WORLD IS A STAGE and the retards believe in it..
>>542426489Uganda is an irrelevant nation. USSR was bordering Europe and a nuclear power. It definitely made sense to talk about them and have a negative opinion of them. And it was good that it disbanded, a lot of people have a much better life now after it ended. The propaganda today about Russia benig a dystopian nightmare state is actual propaganda. Sure it's not as free and wealthy as Denmark but under their circumstances they have done fine.
>>542425399Because Russians are incompetent.Biggest country on Earth, having all the resources and yet their country is a shithole outside Moscow (which is now flooded with muzzies) and Petersburg.Communism would unironically work if it was implemented in the West instead of Russia - it managed to lift millions out of poverty in a backwards illiterate feudal state, build massive industrial base, defeat the nazis and take people to space in a span of 100 years despite being implemented with genetic trash people (ruled by bolshevik Jews).
>>542426574So Molotov-Ribbentrop pact never happened mutt?They traded with them, trained with them, exchanged technology and information and invaded Poland together
>>542426610>backstabbedand there it isadmmision that they collaborated with the nazis and they would continue to do soidiot
>>542426705So one time you shills say that USSR would lose to Germany if not for lend lease, then in the next second you say that USSR can take on the entire Europe so it is correct to be paranoid and deranged.Now, which is it?
>>542426527We have tariffs on the US too. Before Trump we actually had higher tariffs on them than they did on us. But in any case relations are obviously worse now with Trump causing such a stink and stuff like supply lines are being onshored everywhere.
>>542426775USSR collaborated with Germany before nazis (a mistake), and then continued (economic) collaboration with Hitler.
>>542425399by the Napoleonic wars it didn't actually really have the worst reputation overall, they really re-earned a terrible reputation after that though. treated their people like shit, the people the invaded were treated like shit, everything is shit.
>>542425399>EuropeIt isn’t a country, here no one has ever given a fuck.
>>542426709you fuckin retard, even if true, non agression is in no way an alliance or a collaboration. soviets invaded poland after poland was crushed as a counter to german expansion. you fucking moron. everyone traded with germany thats not collaboration in the sense that you make out. neokikes like you that twist reality deserve death
>>542426852We no longer have tariffs on US. that was the deal, EU must drop tariffs so that US will put a tariff of "only" 15%
>>542425399Anglos and minor countries next to Russia being irrational when historically is Russia the one that has been invaded from the west, for example while Russia was being attacked by the Khan of the golden horde, the Germanic knight orders (Teutonic Order and Livonian Order) decided to attack Russia because they consider them pagans even when they were Orthodox Christians.
>>542426818the axis likely would have brought down the russia without lend lease, yes?at some later point the ussr was dangerous enough to potentially winnow the russia is not as strong but still led by a bloody dictator and it doe have a number of guns
>>542426647you forgot about Chechen Wars (94-96 and 99-09)
>>542426944>non agression is in no way an allianceWhich is why I mentioned sharing tech and intelligence they got goingalso they held parades together retard
>>542426647he cant suck his own cockthats what he has his comrades for
>>542426859>USSR collaborated with Germany before nazisMolotov-Ribbentrop was signed in 1939 dipshitwhy do you think they are saitirical cartoons of hitler as the groom and stalin as the bride?even then Soviets and stalin were too fucking stupid to see they would get backstabbedbrits knew beforehand
>>542427109>dying while sucking cocki wonder if they are going to somekind of Pidorhalla
>>542427205Yes, but Soviets criticized Versailes way before Hitler and they helped German industry with gaz sales.This is much more of a collaboration than the non-aggression pact
>>542426647The reason for those conflicts was as much the West as it was Russia. The West was encroaching deep into what has always been the Russian sphere. Russia invaded Crimea AFTER the West openly supported the violent and undemocratic ousting of the completely democratically elected pro Russian President of Ukraine. High ranking officials like Victoria Nuland of the US was over there talking about how they should join NATO and all sorts of stuff. It was an extreme provocation towards Russia right on their border in a country that practically speaks Russian, with many in the country actually speaking Russian and being ethnically Russian.Had the West been friendly towards Russian none of these wars had to happen, but the imperalist West wanted to expand and consume every single territory all the way up to Russia's border.
>>542425534That's the Irish actually.
>>542427277cool don't careThey collaborated with Nazis by your own admisionthey also occupied countries they "liberated"liberators eventually leavesoviets had to get buck broken by their own retarded political system
>>542426534>>542426450They never really stopped, they just totally lost with the fall and then Chechnya and had to take the time to reconstitute themselves.Independence - 94-96Ryazan sugar - 1999
>>542427291>russian spherethere is no such thing. there was the ussr and now there are many other countries that did not want to ussr and will not ussr.
>>542425534>I'm an amerimutt and my opinion is *BRAAAPPPPPP* my opinion is *BRAPPPPPP*
Always remember to correct misinformation. Europe is not russophobic. Europe is only interested in liberating Russian people. It is no secret that Russia is being ruled by rich oligarchs that don't care about average russian citizen. Everyone here want peace and wants what is best for our Russian brothers. That is why they should help us in overthrowing their tyrants and then we will give power to people through democracy. Nobody sees in Poland or Europe sees Russians as a bad guy or enemy. They are our brothers that need to be liberated.
>>542425399>in Europekek, not many nations are disliked as much as Russia over the entire world, clearly something is wrong with countries that are against that mystical commie land, yup simply russophobes everywhere.
>>542425399Europeans always hated each other. This is just a return to the norm.
>>542427291Ah yes the CIAthey conviced yanukovitch to run on a promise to get Ukraine to EU?did they convince him to sign the Kharkiv pact which made Ukraine unable to join NATo untill 2042 at least?Did they hypnotize him to break the election promise?Or did they bribed him to order shooting at protestors?right they didn'tUkraine wanted to leave sub-humanity behindRussians chimped out like thery always do
>>542427086how many parades? kek you mean just one when soviets took over brest. the neokikes really love their small details but ignore the big picture. that way they can twist everything into whatever reality. so the soviets take a town FROM the nazis, not poland, it was already occupied by the germany, and this is collaboration or just diplomacy? depends, if it were some neokike approved force it would be diplomacy, the pilpul would be insane to justify whatever they want.
>>542427205Germany was training their military in Russia before WW2 to bypass Versalies you uneducated twat.
>>542425527but everyone kisses ukraine's ass now when ukraine was literally russia's right-hand man moreso than a satellite state during the soviet union. damn near half of the highest ranking soviet names were ukrainian.
>>542427492Whether you like it or not a sphere of influence is very much a real thing and with the aggression shown from the West obviously Russia wasn't going to allow NATO expansion all the way up to their border. The West never stopped waging a soft war against Russia, it was very greedy.
>>542426067>indiscriminately murdering civilians..The Ukraine killed their own people to make out it was Russia..9/11 bush blew up his own people and made out it was Muslims..pearl Harbour knew it was going to happen so let it happen in order to attack Japan..7/7 JEWS in ISRAEL knew it was going happen and let it happen to blow up Gaza...WW1 and WW2 was a set up to bet on stock markets, public contracts. put its own people in DEBT so the JEW BANKERS could cash in on the population..UK ROYAL PEDO CUNTS want us to fight Russia so they can cash in with their stock market bets and public contracts...I want you to know this though..If Russia started a war with the whole of EUROPE then Russia would get wiped out so easy..Your Nukes might kill a few places but YOU Russia would be wiped out and all your people dead..We have way to many people in the hole of Europe than Russia has plus we are way smarter than just 1 country called Russia..MY ENEMY IS MY OWN RAT LEADERS..RUSSIA MEAN NOTHING TO ME... OH VIENNA.
the golden child of the revolution (china) will ultimately destroy western neokikes, and i cant wait for that. god help you if youre on their side
>>542427654Nazis handed over the town to the soviets why?oh right because that was agreed to in the molotov-ribbentrop agreementcollaboration yet again+ you are forgetting the training of troops and technology and information sharing againThere is a reason zigger don't call it WW2they call it "great patriotic war 1941-1945"that is because they have to ignore what they did between 1939-1941
>>542427624I don't even know wtf you're babbling about. He was a Russia friendly candidate that won fair and square, but the more pro Western, Western half of Ukraine didn't want to accept that and was emboldened and whipped up into a frenzy by backing of Western leaders to violently oust him, which kicked off the war.
>>542425527Your cuntry abuse us worse.
>>542428106>I don't even know wtf you're babbling aboutI know you don'tYou can look up all of these events/treaty if you want to
>>542425399It goes way back in history and can be summed up in two points: Russia posed a threat to Britain in certain regions, and Russians were Orthodox Christians rather than Catholics. That’s literally it. The entire centuries-long conflict between Russia and west is largely rooted in Britain's desire to have its own ports all over the world
>>542428275What you wrote didn't even make any sense though
average europoors are not 'anti-Russian'that is a meme pushed by eu leaders led by the corrupt goymanseu leaders earning bribes and profits from the war plus trying to kill off right wing Slavic males
>>542428331Do you lack reading comprehension?>Yanukovitch ran in 2010 on a promise he will negotiate Ukraine joining the EU>Signs the Kharkiv Pact which leases naval base in crimea to Russians untill 2042>You can't join NATO if you are hosting troops from non-NATO members according to article 10>2013 Yanukovitch backs down from a EU deal last second>People begin to protest>Someone (probably Yanukovitch) gives an order to start shooting at protestors>People are even more pissed>Yanukovitch fucks off to Russia instead of standing trial or trying to prove his innocencethis was one politician breaking a promise and fucking upno outside influence needed
>>542427783no, it is just russia's way of claiming "naturally countries that don't belong to me belong to me"fuck russia's random ass claims, not even the *stans accept them by the way, and neither will the europeans or china. there are nations dealing with russia like north korea and even that doesn't consider itself in "the russian sphere"russia is just russia and putin is mismanaging it
>>542428331Another thing is that Putin has gone on record talking about how he actually asked to be part of NATO somewhere around 2000, but got the answer that they couldn't. Russia had no reason to be enemies with the entire West, obviously. But for some reason the West did not want to be friends with Russia. I'm still thinking the jews/Israel played a large part in that Russia was friendly with their big enemies in the middle east like Iran which has been a huge problem for Israel and we know how much control they have over mutts.
