Capitalism is Parasitism. Socialism demands everyone work.Capitalism is entirely based on giving all the money to a few people who do not work just own, while the vast majority works to give those few people the money. Then Capitalism demands importing the whole of India so they can give even more money to the few who do not work. Now watch the r/Libertarians posters gnash their teeth and cover their keyboards in spittle as they post their enraged replies.
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>>542437738Communism is jewish and capitalism comes from magic middle east bankers
>>542437492Capitalism is a term you degenerate sacks of thieving nigger shit made up as an insult to people who practice free trade. All you are is an evil piece of thieving shit.
>>542437492This looks like Jeff Gerstmann
LOL
>>542437492Capitalism just means whatever you don’t like, materialism is valid and retarded, and Marxism hasn’t made a lick of god damned sense since the end of WW2 and the rise of managerialism.If Cletus can’t express himself properly, it’s because you retards have aggressively killed the vocabulary needed to accurately describe the world as it is because you are all delusional, idealistic faggots running on ancient 250 year old firmware. Kys.
>>542437492>Socialism demands everyone work.Odd that the people who push socialism don't want to work though.I'm guessing they think they'll be the Fidel Castros sailing on yachts, and not the people driving cars from the 50s.
>>542437492Communism is WORSE because faggots like you just want to use it as an excuse to kill people you don't like.
>>542437492>Socialism demands everyone work.Yeah, it's slavery
>>542438157They never think they'll be the ones toiling the fields. Look at any successful co-op and you'll see any laziness thrown out.
>>542437873>NOOOO THERE CAN BE NO WORD AT ALL TO DESCRIBE WHAT WE HAVE NOWThis is the only thing in the universe that youre not allowed to call ANYTHING. How odd...
>>542437738Wouldn't it make more sense for the communist shell to reveal a jewish inside?
>>542438157>Odd that the people who push socialism don't want to work thoughmaybe you're just not dark gothic MAGA enough
>>542438157>Odd that the people who push socialism don't want to work thoughThat isnt true, you decided this based on feelings. I work. All my lefties buddies work. If they didn't and weren't looking for work I wouldn't even talk to them.And no, we think we will live exactly like our grandparents lived, ANY full time job buying you a little house to OWN and a woman who doesnt work, just gets pregnant.
>>542437492>Capitalism is entirely based on giving all the money to a few people who do not work just own,>mf described taxes and government perfectlyLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!
>>542438425The Soviet Union and Maoist China proved that a fully socialist command economy is wildly inefficient.
>>542438425Whoa-ho-ho, what got us a real chud whisperer talkin straight praxis here comrades
>>542437492>Socialism demands everyone work.Not everyone.
>>542438110Capitalism refers to an economic system wherein the means of production ("capital property" e.g. oil companies) are privately owned by "capitalists"; and the value produced by the workers using those means of production is owned by the capitalists. In Socialism, the means of production (e.g. oil companies) are publicly owned by the workers, and therefore workers receive the value of the their labour, not the capitalists.
>>542437492Marx refused to work, received donations equal to a middle class English income, blew it all on himself, and let his children die of malnutrition while he withheld wages from his maid, who he impregnated then abandoned on the street, still owing her money.
>>542438684developing and writing economic theory is certainly work. Marx accomplished far more than most people.
>>542438661>are publicly owned by the workers,You mean owned by the government, outright.Things owned "by the public" are actually owned by the government, and defended with violent force by the government.
>>542437492Every property owner is this country is armed. You’ll get slaughtered.
Oldschool comunism is bad because of labor camps but ,odern communism is satanic. They introduced inversion. Man is woman <---> woman is man.Criminal is a victim <---> the victim is to blame for discriminating the criminal.Free Market is individualism instead of cooperation <---> Communism is collectivism, as it demands rights, and "free things" .... services that they should get without giving money in exchangeI could go on all night with this, but you get the gist
>>542437492You can pretend like you don't understand your own position, or you can be taken seriously
>>542438661Where will investment money come from? Who will invest if the value of the investment will go to the workers and not back to them?
>>542438661Yeah and it’s not 1865 anymore tardo. Your boy Bill Clinton moved the means of production outside the country and and diluted the power of the American worker by making him compete with 400 quadrillion chinks and jeets. Nobody makes anything anymore, everyone either writes emails for a living or delivers lunch to people who write emails for a living.>inb4 no it was the republicans or some other lame ass pivotFuck. You.
>>542438762He certainly murdered more of his own children than most people.
>>542438816He doesn't have to be taken seriously by you he just has to confuse the smoothbrains just enough that they think "arguing" with him is worthwhile. Those smooth brains will restrain or kill you as a radical even while he plans to kill them. That's how the whole thing works.
>>542437492Maga actively rejects lolbert baffoons just as it does your commie nonsense. The dsa newfags are just a mess.
>>542438824investment is socially planned – the workers cooperate to decide how to allocate resources
>>542438661>publicly owned by the workersaka government property... not really owned by wokerks... ran poorly as result, often losing money so working class has to sustain the debauchery with their tax
>>542439028Allocate what resources? Where do the resources come from?
>>542438952when you see a bait though, it can be a good idea to quickly shit on it. Then all the irritated and sleep deprived anons who want to come vent on the OP can see that, pause and realize it's a bait because people are already treating it like bait. I've been on the other side of it and I think it helps
>>542438860That is some of the most evil slander I have ever heard. Marx deeply cared for his children; they did not die due to neglect. The sorrowful life of an impoverished family with ill children in London was in no way Marx's fault.
>>542437492STFU you fucking chink
>>542439153perhaps read up on existing socialism in China instead of wasting my time?
>>542437492all roads lead to rome and all money trails lead to israel
>>542437811Here's a secret anon:The middle east is jewish and everything that came out of it is jewish.
>>542437873Imagine being this fucking dumb,
>>542438239>slavery is when people all work together as apposed to some people working so other people don't have to workPerfect fucking logic right here.
>>542439581China is no longer socialist. It's much closer to an interventionist capitalist economy in a one party state.
>>542437492>Capitalism is entirely based on giving all the money to a few people who do not work just own, while the vast majority works to give those few people the money.>[DESCRIBES EVERY "SOCIALIST" STATE TO DATE)]
>>542437492>everyone worksDay 1: communist widget factoryBob is reasonably adept at stuff. He makes 25 widgets that dayDoug is not so adept and also just talks a lot. He makes 10 widgets and some of them are dangerously jankyEnd of day 1: both get 8 shekels and 3 slices of breadDay 2: Communist widget factoryBob makes 10 widgets
>>542439028Imagine if a committee of Karens ran our economy.
>>542440162This is exactly how capitalism works, though.In communism bob could do whatever wanted and Doug could too. Doug probably wouldn't do something he didn't want to do . Communism is much more adept that capitalism which forces people to work in the widget factory for 12 hours 15 days in a row all to get one jew in isreali super rich.
>>542440355>retard leftist misses the point of the metaphorWhat a shock.
>>542440421>EVERYONE I HATE IS XYZYou lack self awareness.No one, and I mean, no one, is unaware of the naive, simplistic, and idiotic, memes the right lolberts have created to combat their ideological phobia that is communism. All of them are based on idiotic misinterpretations and out right falsehoods. You are a liar and a swindler and probably a jew.
>>542439661Look up, you stupid nigger bitch. You're poor and you're going to die that way, as you should.
>>542440355Kek I almost did an >inb4 no one has ever been happy under capitalism eitherYou guys are so predictable it’s unreal
>>542438157this
>muh strawmanDemocracy/Republic are systems of government Capitalism is a financial systemCommunists lack the IQ to distinguish the difference, and immediately fake ignorance due to Capitalism being viable and communism failing...always
>>542440355You're free to open your own business, you just can't get the kike dick out of your mouth.
>>542440762I probably work harder than anyone in this thread, actually.
>>542440587lol. Try to actually compose a rational response before running for the Jew Card, you hysterical bitch.
>>542437492Reminder that Adam Smith himself would be disgusted by the rampant corporatism we currently have. Modern miggers would confuse him for a socialist if they knew how to read.
>>542440921Liar, if you worked hard you wouldn't be a thieving piece of shit.
>>542440921I believe you, bro
>>542437492Yup. Capitalism NEVER works. Sure. It starts out promising. All it does is promote corporate cannibalism. The only. ONLY system that works long term is bartering and small communities.
>>542441039>>542441124I work in a papermill, kek.>>542440976There is no argument to be made with you because no matter what I say you will just cont to attack the same strawman of communism you have been spoon fed by jews and the feds since birth.
>>542440997He'd be more disgusted that the socialists revived mercantilism and added outright murder and starvation to the mix.
>>542439473He was receiving a middle class income and he was smoking a cigar a day while refusing to work you fucking retard.
>>542437492>Socialism demands everyone work.Except members of the government, who get cushy desk "jobs" telling other people what to do.Communism is slavery to the managerial class. I'd prefer we hang every managerial rat by the neck until death.
>>542437873Even Charlie Munger called himself and Buffet capitalists when they first started out and said it with disgust lol...
>>542437492Owners are risk takers. No reason to do anything with no reward.
>>542439473He literally refused to work and even sent his wife on journeys to beg money off her relatives.
>>542441595>refused to work.His buddies and Engels egged him on to keep writing and shit post in newspapers and gave him modern equivalent to patreon bucks to do it. He wasn't hard up for money, nor did his wife hate him, they actually settled and lived old together. Also he had some fucked up debilitating skin disease that made manual labor extremely painful and some scholars believe thay had a huge influence on his works.
Leftniggers still can't meme I see.
>>542441850No one likes you
>>542437492If you don't think capital is important just do the things the capitalists do without it. It would be far more efficient.
>>542438661>>542438767>Things owned "by the public" are actually owned by the government, and defended with violent force by the government.Yes. A system where companies are owned by workers (ownership by workers is private and compatable with capitalism) is called distributism and is the only solution to our current problems. They are called co-ops, or ESOPs.>>542438824>Where will investment money come from? Who will invest if the value of the investment will go to the workers and not back to them?A capitalist makes profits (excess productivity that the workers produce), and reinvests some of the profits into a given business, he may also take loans secured by the income of said business. The same would apply to worker owned companies. A company run by workers does not necessarily have to distribute 100% of the profits back, they could easily say "let's distribute 80% and designate 20% for investment." And given the business is assumed to be profitable, they can go to any bank and apply for the same loan.
>>542441882ok leftnigger
>>542439692Slavery is forcing everyone to work together on what the masters want. There isn't even room for creative expression that can benefit you economically like in capitalism
Communism is the ideology of the Loser.This is what a communist hates being pointed out. They get very irrational when confronted with this fact and it's quite funny. I once saw a commie have an autistic meltdown when a girl he was talking to said she didn't care about communism. He got to his feet, loudly threw his chair to the floor, then tried to tip over a filing cabinet. His fedora stayed glued to his head and his leather trench coat flapped a little. It was as if I'd contracted AIDs watching the whole exchange.
>>542441313Lol, no wonder you want communism, you're dumb as shit and poor. A lot of evil people are just dumb, really. Your ooga booga brain looks around and sees that others have it better than you, but you're too ignorant to better yourself, so you believe the only way to aquire anything of value is to steal it.You're also obviously uneducated. I have a master's in business and a bachelor's in economics. If you would educate yourself, you would know that the word "capitalism" comes from the word "capitalist" which is a derogatory term for anyone who owns any form of capital, invented by socialist in the late 1800s. The word Capitalism is a strawman invented by evil people like you. All capitalism means, even by your commie definition, is someone who owns any form of capital. Private ownership is a bad thing to you. You are evil, but you got that way because you're dumb and uneducated.All that really exist is free trade and useless thieving niggers with their made up "isms" who want to steal from people practicing free trade, like you. What you call "capitalism" is just private ownership and free trade. You just want to take from those who create, because that's all evil like you can do, take and not create.
>>542441780>he had some fucked up debilitating skin diseaseThe filthy motherfucker never bathed and had massive boils on his ass is the truth of the matter.
>>542441990So how did ancient Egypt make their corveè system work so well?
>>542441540I don't really give a fuck what some dipshit said, I'm telling you where the word comes from.
>>542441982>LE HEKKIN EDGY WERDZ!!!!!Ok cool. Your reality remains unchanged.
>>542442117ok leftnigger
>>542437492>"Communism works cause...[Describe lies]"
>>542442044There's been medical studies into his description of his condition. And agreed upon conclusion is that it wasn't boils, it was some wierd skin disease.
>>542441939>excess productivity that the workers produceThe Labor Theory of Value was discarded within Marx's lifetime in favor of Subjective Value and Marginalism. You sound like an idiot repeating that pseudoeconomic crap.
>>542442067>dip shit>Charlie MungerLmao. Warren Biffets right hand man is a dipshit? The giga capitalist calling himself a capitalist is wrong, yet you some random retard on 4chan is right??
>>542442027I have a really good life, actually. I am proud of the work I do. Unlike rich snotnosed brats who lurk 4chan all day living off their parents. I actually work for a living and take pride in my work. I am proud to actually produce things of value for society. It's, unfortunate, that Jews and capitalists and owners live off the fruits of my labor like parasites, but, hopefully we can change that soon.>I have a masters in my bourg economic forum so, ergo, I am right about everythingYour worthless as degree in econ doesn't impress anyone faggot. Capitalism is just a word, the fact that you deny economic reality; That we live in a world where people, like me, work so that jews, like you, can survive doesn't change that.Capitalism is an economic system predicated upon Private ownership, wage labor, and the production of commodities. Any other definition, like the ones that come out of your shitty econ class, are not only bias they make no sense.Capitalism is much more than two Kikes wagging their dicks at each other to trade apples, or, bananas, or whatever.
>>542437492>Socialism demands everyone workExcept the niggers it worships
>>542437492Seize the means of production. Start a business. I’m waiting…
>>542437492So in capitalism do you get put into a labour camp where you work until you starve to death because someone heard you disagreeing with party policy?
>>542442047>corveè systemthat's slavery
>>542442231OK?? Was this even a response lol You shit eating faggot.
We're just gonna kill all the poor people. Fuck em. You lost at life. Rather than enduring a life of suffering and misery, shitting up the world, we'll simply replace you with robots and get rid of you. Usher you off stage left. The world will be an enlightened elite, small in number, who treat it as their sandbox after that.
>>542437738I'm 74 and this is deep
>>542442256>I beleive anything any rich person says>I don't need facts and shitYou're fucking retarded.>>542442269No, you don't work hard, you work dumb. And, the only thing you have to be proud of is being an evil dumb piece of human garbage. But, that's okay, you will get what you deserve out of life. Your evil thieving ways will leave you destitute and poor until the day you die in your poverty hole. Not even your evil communism can save you from your own evil self.The really stupid part of this argument is you're so fucking dumb you belive communism will somehow take power from big business and give it to you. All it will do is give the big businesses government powers. You have to be nigger tier dumb to not understand this, which you obviously are.
>>542437492I agree that capitalism is bad, but National Socialism is the answer.
>>542437492Capitalism != CorporatismWeird how as corporations merge and become bigger and bigger, they look more and more like small centrally planned socialist utopias. Yet this keep getting worse and worse. Curious.
>>542442332He doesn't want to build the means of production, he wants to steal them, because he's a lazy thieving piece of shit.
>>542442486>There isn't even room for creative expression that can benefit you economically like in capitalism>corveè system is slavery.
>>542442578>nnnnn nnnn n n not reeeeeaallll capitalism, it's never been tried!!!
>>542442716All capitalism means is private ownership, you sub 80iq shitskin.
>>542442578>The rich n33t who lives with his parents is telling a real proletariat how he works harder than himLmao, in communism your line of work wouldn't exist fag. You would be right here with me. Society isn't run by parasites like you it's just controlled by it. You have no argument, apparently, and you also type like a fag.Kike economy.
>>542442650It's almost like Ludwig von Mises and Friedrik Hayek were right and the middle road leads to socialism, and the road to socialism is the road to serfdom.
>>542442663Business owners jews don't build anything. They just throw money at people who need money to live and workers build everything. You are just jews.
>>542437492There is no place for niggers in communism.
>>542442823You don't know my line of work, you stupid evil bitch. And, no, I would not be working in a paper mill dreaming about thieving kikes saving me from my own self inflicted shit existence. Lol, the funny part is, you'd be just as useless under communism. Nothing can lift you out of your shit paper mill existence but you, thief anon. And, regardless of what your nigger brain thinks, kikes stealing from productive people won't make your life any better.
>>542442780No it doesn't. That's just a small part of what capitalism means. Under even a slave system a slave can have private ownership of a rock does that mean they are capitalists? Capitalists are people who own capital, stuff, money, whatever and aquire more of it via putting that capital to work elsewhere to aquire more capital. They pay other people to do work for them, they use private ownership laws to allocate capital here or there to build more capital. They aquire capital through investment from other people or persuasive means. They don't actually do any work, they just dictate where capital flows to aquire more under their name. And there's an even higher level to it, imperialism, which is another subject.
>>542443093I know that you are likely a parasite Jew.That's more than enough.Cope, you will never be a real man.
>>542442872This is what the kike thief says as he steals from you.>oy vey, you did not make that, it's mineLike I said, dumb evil sacks of shit like you can't even imagine building anything of value. In your nigger brain anyone who has anything must have stolen it, because that's the only way your dumb evil ass could get anything of value.
>>542443161Lmao, real men build things, you're just a weak thieving piece of shit who wants to take from real men, because you are worthless.>>542443129No, faggot, you leftist don't get to make words mean whatever you want. All it ever meant was owning capital.
>>542438408Oh don't get me wrong. I don't want to work and barely do. That's one of the great things about capitalism. You can not work and not be forced to work.There's a lot of shit I don't like going on with modern capitalism, but communism isn't a solution.
>>542443358>All it ever meant was owning capital.You are a dense one. You're just as bad as commies trying to tell me that communism has never been tried lol...CapitalismCapitalIsmWhy is the -ism added on anon? Like liberal, liberal- ism. Conservat - ism? What is an ism anon?
>>542437492Miggers are well known as being the dumbest voting bloc in all of world history.
Do you guys think OP is coming back to this thread to e-argue in good faith about this?
>>542438157>cars from the 50sProbably a lot better than modern cars that spy on you all the time, breakdown constantly due to software errors, can be hacked and touch screens
Ok serious question.What would we lose, if the poor people died? We would be able to travel anywhere without being murdered or having to witness their shambling ugliness all around us. The world would be a much better place for us. The gene pool would improve. I don't see any downsides.
>>542442716There are plenty of historical examples of capitalism. Pure capitalism isn't even unheard of historically, various pre-roman celtic and germanic people appear to have practiced nearly pure capitalism, and there were various times throughout the middle ages where pure capitalism was practiced in reality, although the kings and nobility pretended to have a lot more power than they actually did. There are also examples of nearly pure capitalism which are all examples of unparalleled growth in the standards of every economic class, especially the lower classes. The Hanseatic League, the so called "gilded age", Somalia between the collapse of their dictatorship and the American and African union military interventions to install and prop up a state. One thing which biases your information is that states produce a great deal of propaganda, and that propaganda has been most of what the historical record has preserved. It's also wise to keep in mind that socialism and capitalism exist on a sort of spectrum, which is to say there is a spectrum along which property rights are respected, with property rights being respected in all cases being "pure capitalism" and property rights being in no situation respected being "pure socialism". >>542443129>That's just a small part of what capitalism means.no, it's all of it. Everything else you try to add into the definition is just attempts to win arguments by changing what words mean.
>>542443358You don't build anything Jew.I bet you couldn't even change your own Spark plugs.
>>542443549>Probably a lot better than modern cars that spy on you all the time, breakdown constantly due to software errors, can be hacked and touch screensIndeed, and the problem with modern cars is caused by inflation. If people's money retained its value they would prefer to save and would only buy when they need to, and would prefer products which would last longer so they could save more. In a free market on the gold standard, the idea that "they don't build them like they used to" would cease to be correct. New products would be built to ever higher standards.
>>542437811Capitalism came from Jewish Dutch ship merchants in Amsterdam
>>542443507Learn to read, I already said all the "isms" are made up horse shit. They took a derogatory term "capitalist" threw an "ism" on it, and made it a derogatory term for free trade. That's why no one can tell you what capitalism, or socialism, or even communism really is, it's all abstract made up horse shit. Ask any expert or professor what they mean and they will all give you different answers. Again, the only thing that exists is free trade. All the isms are made up bullshit to hinder the free trade. Capitalism is a strawman against free trade and private ownership built by socialist. It's not real, it's just a made up bad word. Over the years people have tried to say capitalism is this or that, but it's nothing. >>542443603I can build a house from the ground up and have countless times. If you could do anything productive you wouldn't be sucking kike dick in a paper mill crying for kikes to come help you be a thieving piece of shit nigger. Fuck, your pathetic ass can't even steal on your own.
>>542437492>Socialism demands everyone work.you are retarded
>>542437492>Socialism demands everyone work.I'm not going to do that though. Don't worry, you'll get over it.
>>542444021Cope and seethe fag.
>>542444105Be poor and steal, commie. I know you will.
>>542437492Private property and initiative are clearly better, not even debatable. The issue is government not doing its job and under communism it's worse cause government is totalitarian
>>542437492There's goes another commie again, doing what they always do. Projection. Blaming capitalism for all the problems THEY cause while trying to subvert the nation doing that hard work for them to steal from.
>>542444021>They took a derogatory term "capitalist" threw an "ism" on itCapitalist was not initially a derogatory term, it literally meant someone who owned capital goods. A capitalist was a bit like an investor, but without the fiat currency funny money connotations involved in that, they owned actual resources and used those to help people start businesses. Capitalists basically don't exist anymore as a distinct thing, the last century of central bank fueled inflation has destroyed that niche in the market.
>>542444257No, it was originally invented by socialist in the late 1800s as a derogatory term.
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>>542444149Have you ever felt the touch of a woman?
>>542444311No it wasn't. It has been in use in Dutch and French since like the 1600s. I am pretty sure David Ricardo used the term, and he wasn't a socialist by any means, a bit wrapped up in mercantilist notions of his day, and was a bit too much of a fan of Adam Smith's LTV, but definitely no socialist.
>>542437492you live in the most centrally planned and globalized economy of all-time you fucking moron
>>542438860That's one of the shittiest attempts at propaganda I've ever seen
>>542438793based
>>542444553No, the word capital existed before. I misspoke, what I meant was late 18th century, not late 1800s. The word "capitaliste" was first used by French revolutionaries in the 1790s, and it was used as a derogatory term for basically any wealthy person. The term capitalism didn't come around until the 1850s.>>542444523I married my girlfriend from elementary school, we have three sons. Not sure why that's relevant to a discussion on economic systems. Have you ever thought about not being a thieving piece of shit?
>>542444996>I misspoke, what I meant was late 18th century, not late 1800s. The word "capitaliste" was first used by French revolutionaries in the 1790s, and it was used as a derogatory term for basically any wealthy person. The term capitalism didn't come around until the 1850s.Well regardless the word has been accepted by both sides of the argument. Hans-Hermann Hoppe's "A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism" provides the best definitions for the two terms in my opinion. Also no less a proponent of property rights than Murray Rothbard himself used the term. So quibbling over who invented it seems silly. https://cdn.mises.org/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism,%20A_4.pdf
>>542437492i hate centralized gobernmentcommunism cannot exist without centralized gobernmentonly coercion can force individuals to share their hoard with a collective, and only a centralized monopoly over violence can succesfully achieve thiscapitalism would spawn several compeeting security agencies who will never stop fighting each other despite being business partners
>>542445576>capitalism would spawn several compeeting security agencies who will never stop fighting each other despite being business partnersI don't think that's how it would work out. They'd compete, but non violently. I'd suggest reading Gustav de Molinari's "The Production of Security" and Hans-Hermann Hoppe's "The Private Production of Defense". They're both available for free through the Mises institute's website and there are audiobook versions of both. Essentially private security agencies would face a business environment similar to insurance companies, in that they both seek to pool risks which are not always homogenous. It is likely that privately produced security would be in large part employed by insurance companies, or insurance companies themselves would employ armies. They would be unlikely to go to war with each other because they could not pass those costs on to taxpayers, and would be forced to take it out of their own profit margins, making them less competitive.
>>542445542I think it's important to step back and look at what you are arguing about. It's been over twenty years since I took a class in economics, and I haven't read anything on the subject since. The main thing I took away from my degree in economics, is that economic systems are pretty much all horse shit. And, what I mean is, they are all made up concepts with flaws, every one of them. The only thing that really exists is trade. Economic systems are just practices that do something to a trade transaction. Trade is just a naturally occurring thing between humans. The reson I bring up the origin of the word "capitalism" is because originally it was placed on the naturally occurring trade as a derogatory term. Even the origins of it are complete bullshit. Capitalism was created as a derogatory term for a naturally occurring action. But, it's since been turned into whatever the fuck the person talking about it wants it to mean, good or bad.If I ever read any of the names you just listed, I don't remember it. Do you remember 2008? I do. It showed how retarded our economic system now is. It's so retarded, even the "experts" don't understand it. I sure as shit didn't either even after listening to them talk about it for four years. So, I don't really care to read anyone else's opinions on the abstract concepts.What's the best economic system? Wild west free market, where pharma companies can sell you the disease and the cure for infinite profits? Probably not. But, I know giving the fucking government ownership of everything and everyone working for them, is a very, VERY bad idea.
>>542437492This is your god, commie tranny.
