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Do you think life started as replicating molecules in a primeval sludge? Or was it God who breathed divine air into Adam (whatever that may or may not be a metaphor for)?
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>>542455919
Neither.
That's a false and retarded binary.
There's thousands of religious explanations besides the biblical and dozens of rationalist ones besides the primordial ooze ones.
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>>542456045
I suppose the question is

Do you think the philosophy the scientific worldview engenders is true or is there a mystical dimension outside of the scope of science's explanatory power which is itself a more realised explanation of life, whether religion be metaphor or not?
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>>542455919
This world is obviously a setup. You can't mental gymnast your way around it
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>>542456209
Well what is being set up by whom for whom? And what does this setup look like?
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You guys are all wrong they revealed the truth in media in the first scene of Prometheus you can see how life on earth began. Both the primordial soup and the first man are together
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>>542456045
>and dozens of rationalist ones besides the primordial ooze ones.
like what, primordial ooze on another planetoid that then flew over here?
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>>542456287
That's an interesting interpretation. Of the movie and of the question. I would go so far as to stay there is a not negligible probability we and our entire solar system have been created or engineered to exist by an advanced intelligence.
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>>542456045
>There's thousands of religious explanations besides the biblical and dozens of rationalist ones besides the primordial ooze ones.

Yeah and they are all wrong. God made the world and sent his son Jesus to redeem us from sin.
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>>542455919
hardest part in starting life is creating long chained polymers
the planet Earth back then had 5 hour day, that allowed rapid polymerization twice a day, sun rise, sun set, that is the only reason why life could start so fast
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>>542456195

It is the wrong question because the replicators have apparently been too afraid for a very long time to ask the actual question ... what responsibility that leaves us with, if any at all.
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>>542455919
>OP pic
>life starting

you should have posted a pic of the cover of "some assembly required". that would have been more appropriate
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>>542456454
I mean, The Selfish Gene is a philosophical argument from a philosophical moron, but the facts are in there.
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>>542456509
Selfish gene is a good introduction to Game theory; there are better ones. It's an interesting intent to shore up the truisms of "survival of the fittest to survive" with the wonders of biochemistry encodings. A fun coffeeshop parlor game for a rainy afternoon
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>>542456420

Awww, now that is cute!! :D
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>>542455919
life might have begun in puddles that formed a film aka a membrane to prevent evaporation. Then that membrane then encapsulated into a cell like thing.
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I still don't understand how everything supposedly evolved without any kind of divine intervention. Flight? The bombardier beetle? Conciousness? Terrestrial animals slowly turning into whales? Hell, even single-cell organisms.
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>>542456356

How else are you gonna make a woman from a rib? There is definitely a soup stage
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>>542455919
Life is too surreal to be any less than a simulation.

All simulations have creators.

You cannot interface with your simulations creator, otherwise it ruins the simulation.

There is a god and you will never meet him. There is no life after death, or life before. You die, and that's a one way trip to the end of time, i.e, the end of the simulation. Congrats, you made it out.

If you don't like the simulation, you have an exit available to you. Take it. Or don't, the simulation doesn't care.
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>>542457562
the point of life is to use energy
you create more life to use more energy
life evolves to be sexual to ensure rapid randomization to fill all energy gradient

the result of energy use is increase of entropy
life super charges entropy

( that is that one little problem that life within itself is structured and with reverse entropy )
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>>542457562
All this stuff is explained, you just never bothered to look it up because you want to continue believing whatever it is you believe.
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>>542457562
Random mutations leading to increased or decreased evolutionary fitness. That's all it is, with countless attempts over an inconceivable amount of time.
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>>542457710
Entropy doesn't apply to open systems like Earth. We get our energy from the sun. It only applies to the universe as a whole.
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>>542457817
earth is no different than a barrel of sugar and some bacteria
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>>542455919
>Do you think life [scientific proof and detailed theories based on observable reality]? Or was it [stone age jewish fantasy (metaphor cope for good measure)]?
Gee I wonder which is more likely
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>>542455919
God is the maths that describes how self replicating molecules emerges from sludge and eventually builds cathedrals and super computers.

Evolution is the Divine logic of the universe.
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>>542455919
if the story of adam and eve is to be believed, it would have had to happen parallel to the evolutionary process, as part of a separate continuum
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>>542457782
You explained what evolution is, not how it works.
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>>542456287
icant believe a human being can be retarded as you

i say ure pretending to be dumb while spreading propaganda. youre kiull on sight
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>>542458764
Mutations and different combinations of genes through sexual reproduction will sometimes produce or enhance traits that are disadvantageous or advantageous to the survival and reproduction of an organism. Over time this means that disadvantageous traits will become less prominent (because more die before they can reproduce or they will reproduce less) and advantageous traits will become more prominent (because they survive longer and reproduce more) in a given species in a specific environment.
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>>542459016
That's just a more detailed explanation of what it is.

Go ejaculate on your own face in a public park.
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>>542459107
why does this make you mad lmao? the whole concept of evolution having a purpose is man made, it has a function and that is to reproduce and consume energy with maximum efficiency, the means through which it does this is trial and error, its *that simple*
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>>542459107
How does that not explain how it works?



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