Not that dust has settled, should we get rid of useless NATO abomination? It cant even beat 2% GDP country with no electricity, toilets, food etc you know the nafo narrativesPros>1. Reduction of Global Military TensionThe main argument of critics is that NATO is a relic of the Cold War whose existence and expansion trigger a large-scale arms race. Eliminating the alliance could:Eradicate lines of division: The rigid division of the world (and Europe in particular) into opposing blocs would disappear.Stop eastward expansion: For Russia, the primary source of concern near its borders, related to the advance of military infrastructure, would be removed.>2. Formation of a New, Indivisible Security SystemCritics argue that NATO ensures the security of some nations at the expense of creating threats for others. The liquidation of the bloc would pave the way for a new architecture of collective security (for instance, under the auspices of a reformed OSCE or the UN), where:Security would be built on the principles of equality for all countries in the region.Decisions would be made through diplomatic consensus without the dominance of specific military superpowers.>3. Economic Benefits and DemilitarizationMaintaining the alliance requires massive financial spending from its members (with a target of at least 2% of GDP spent on defense by each country). Removing obligations to the bloc would allow countries to:Redistribute budgets: European nations could redirect billions of euros from the military sector into social programs, healthcare, education, green energy, and infrastructure development.Reduce dependence on the military-industrial complex: This would weaken the lobbying power of major arms manufacturers who have a vested interest in sustaining conflicts to sell their products.Benefits of neing NATO - simply nonePoland and Baltics are just poor state leeches and always whine about Russia to get free gibbs
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Rusniggers have now shifted to the "we're losing but only because we are fighting all of NATO".
>>542459794why not just get rid of russia instead?what is russia even good for other than incubating aids?
>>542460106This. A world without Russia will be better for everyone, including the ruasians. They just need to get rid of their slave mentality
>>542459794Sorry goy but we need this fake ass division for another fake world war
>>542459794NATO is an occupational force. NATO armies are designed and trained to fight against local uprisings/insurgencies not against peer adversaries.
>1. Reduction of Global Military TensionIvan, if you can't beat a single, weak, impoverished, ex-communist satellite, what in the FUCK makes you think we're "tense"? You're a laughing stock, a shadow of the USSR, and four years of war have already bankrupted you. Launch missiles at us and we'll RAPE Moscow.
>>542459794NATO is beating russia without lifting a finger, cope and seethe
>>542459794nah we are good, thank you for your concern.
>>542460106You can give it a try lol
>>542459794we have to destroy russia first
Russians are such degenerate dog shit creatures its not even worth listening to.They talk like they actually matter in the world. When their economy was at its best, its still smaller than Italy alone, Germany alone, France alone, UK alone, just to mention a few. And they talk like they are up there with the US and China lol.Such degenerate people. 144+ million people living in that dog shit lada federation and have nothing to show for. They should have been at top and leading at most things in the world with this amount of people, but they are not and never will be. Completely useless.Good thing about the lada federation is that their people are dying. The more the better. The war is so totally worth the loss of russian lives. And this war will keep on going for many many years to come.
>>542461541>Without lifting a fingerWhat?
>>542459794The alliance does indeed have shortcomings: it can provoke Russia, and its expansion causes friction. However, simply dismantling NATO will not automatically lead to peace. Most likely, alliances will be reconfigured, possibly with new dividing lines. A more realistic path is reforming the European security system with Russia’s participation, but this requires political will on both sides, which is currently lacking.
>>542459794>Eradicate lines of division:implying lines dividing civilized countries from the 3rd world ones are a bad thing >Stop eastward expansionimplying that's a bad thing and anybody cares about Russian concerns>Benefits of being NATO77 years of peace and security for all members and counting
>>542461964In PPP terms, since 2024 Russia has ranked 4th in the world ($6.92 trillion), ahead of Germany, Japan, and all European countries. Russia’s economic growth rate in 2024 (4.1%) was four times the G7 average.Population is only one factor. For example, Bangladesh (170 million) and Nigeria (200+ million) are not technological leaders. Population size alone does not guarantee leadership.
>>542462307>European security system with Russia’s participationthats like letting Khadirov DOOON to participate in the virtue security of sheep.
>>542462345You argue that NATO is a guarantor of peace. That is true for the territories of its members (Article 5 of the Washington Treaty). However, the alliance conducted military operations outside its area of responsibility — in Bosnia (1995), Yugoslavia (1999), Afghanistan (2001–2021), and Libya (2011). An organization that ensures peace internally is an instrument of war externally.
>>542462535Nuclear doctrines of both the US and Russia stipulate the use of nuclear weapons only in response to a nuclear attack or in the event of a threat to the existence of the state. Since the beginning of the Special Military Operation, Russia has not threatened a nuclear strike against non-nuclear targets and has not brought its troops to a state of increased combat readiness.However, the US withdrew from the Treaty on the Limitation of Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems, withdrew from the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles, deployed intermediate-range missiles in Europe (in Romania and Poland), and in 2022 expanded NATO by including Finland and Sweden, effectively doubling the border with Russia. So who exactly is “saber-rattling”?Russia was the third country in the world to create nuclear weapons (in 1949). At the same time, it was the first to propose complete nuclear disarmament (in 1959). And today Russia continues to cooperate with the US in the field of arms control (the New START Treaty has been extended until 2026). Without nuclear weapons, Russia would still remain a major power with vast territory, resources, and an army, but nuclear parity is not a “crime” but a guarantee that World War III has not broken out.
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>>542460079It's cute.They even call every dead merc for a nato soldier
>>542462846just ask yourself, and be honest to yourself. would you trust Khadirov to keep your sheep safe from sexual molestation?the answer is no. no you would not.
>>542463132Imagine America’s outrage if China created an imposing military alliance and tried to include Canada and Mexico in it. Russia’s return of Crimea was caused by fears of losing its naval base in Sevastopol, which was becoming possible if Ukraine continued moving toward NATO. U.S. policy should shift toward recognizing Ukraine as a buffer state between NATO and Russia, rather than trying to bring Ukraine into NATO.
>>542459794In a perfect world AI-generated OPs would be ban-on-sight.
>>542463403dont compare parasha to USA, thats just silly. russia/russians are mentaly AND phisically weak. the weak dont have a say even in regional matters.
Vladimir Poopin Zigger :-D
>>542461813bitch you can't beat ukraine
>>542463403>naval base in Sevastopol,What's the point of a naval base when you have no fleet?
>>542459794>Not that dust has settledFreudian slip in the very first word kekImpressive even for a pidor shill!
>>542459794Two more weeks pidor. btw you will be lucky to have electricity and fuel this winter.
