People are resilient and clever, the system is rigid and fragile. When disenfranchised people start blowing up and sabotaging important AI infrastructure within the next couple years, no one will dare risk their family's safety to fix it. This is the guaranteed path of idle hands under threat of extinction. If more and more of the economy relies on a centralized technology- which is subsequently disrupted or destroyed- then economic crisis will follow, triggering international political crisis.
>>542464905Another thread fearmongering about AIGet a life loser
>>542464905This is why we need ai surveillance camera and constant drone monitoring of private property so that the hired pmc can kill any dissidents. All my for 401k.
>>542464980ContdThe only solution is UBIBegin with the Freedom Dividend as proposed by Andrew Yang
>>542464905>People are resilient and clever, the system is rigid and fragile. The exact opposite is the case. You're clinging onto a naive power fantasy as a form of Escapism.
>>542464905i dont agree with data center insanity, but that picture is heckina e s t h e t i caesthetic/awoo
>>542465112>>542464980nuke india back to the stone agebut not before deporting all indians from the americas, europe, and middle east back to that steetshitholeamen
>>542464980>>542465112The dots on your forehead make great target practice
>>542464905China will lose the race. You lost. Tranny
>>542465207>>542465240Co-ordinated Shill SwarmI wonder where they are coming fromWhy are malicious actors trying so hard to prevent UBIWhy are they trying to inflict suffering on people
>>542464905>important AI infrastructurelol lmaothere is no such thing. the levels of redundancy in the panopticon are far greater than the myriad of fat, pants-shitting jews ready to replace Jerry Nadler.
>>542464980Surely you must understand that antagonizing white people isn't going to make them want to put you in a mass grave any less.
>>542465731I don't know what the fuck you are talking about m8
>>542465303You're not viewing this correctly. I'm pointing out a situation of public perception and reaction. Vehicles and vehicle infrastructure completely changed the international economy. Public perception was positive and the reaction was acceptance. Imagine if public perception was instead *negative* towards vehicles, due to their effects on the existing economy- people would target manufacturing and its perpetrators.Maoist China is an excellent example of the ruling power of perception. The Chinese hung their scholars, burned their history books, and destroyed cultural artifacts. Other societies cherish these things and preserve them, like in college football fanaticism. Some are indifferent and let them rot, like in inner-city America. Perception is everything.The perception is that AI will replace the workforce and/or go "rogue" destroying the world. Whether that's true or not is a minor detail. If the perception is negative then the response will be rejection.
>>542464905The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
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>>542464905The system is more resilient than ever and it's not at all centralised. It's dispersed across the entire planet through global finance, across hundreds of states and authorities. data centres are being built wherever there is space and access to power. raw materials are stockpiled to avoid supply chain bottlenecks. surveillance is now so advanced that anybody with ambitions to disrupt the system will be pacified long before they have the opportunity to inflict any damage. It's already over.
>>542466940You have a very European perspective of the situation. In America there are nearly 400 million people, all of which can own guns and cars, with complete freedom of movement, with local governance overriding federal governance. What you are suggesting is somehow reversing all of this without public rejection. In America you have people openly doing drugs in public, strangling their kids to fanfare, and running lawless zones of gang territory. These are just a few examples of why the American state has no actual power in the face of a determined populace. I get the blackpilled contrarian take, saying the power will win, but it's just not true for a ton of reasons.
>>542467448Not to mention the people who attacked grid infrastructure. Some attackers were caught, some got away with it.
>>542467448>What you are suggesting is somehow reversing all of this without public rejection*with public approval*The enemy is on the inside.
>>542467392First read this, which also applies to you >>542467448Second, I challenge you to take your own logic to its facts: if someone has ambitions to disrupt the system, *who or what **exactly** is going to pacify them?* Because broadly pointing to surveillance is not sufficient. When you ultimately point to the police force- fallible people, neighbors, uniformed, patterned, targetable- then it's a matter of picking up the spatula at a cookout and raking its sharp end across the neck of an enforcer in an instant of rage, scaled up to full rebellion.
>>542467448Your government doesn't care about the average drug abuser or gun owner as they are not a credible threat to the state. If any of you tried to organise a genuine resistance authorities would come down on you like you wouldn't believe
>>542467939>>542467967Surveillance is the means to which the state can socially engineer the population. whether through political, ethnic tribalism, identity or even blackmail to prevent serious unrest. it never gets to the point where physical force is required
>>542467967You're talking about a "clean" enemy: organized, funded, strategic. Something that a government can attack directly.What answer do you have to the "unclean" enemy: *every single person*, when every livelihood is being taken away? I assume you'll say the entire country is magically a jail of surveillance and punishment. If that's the case, then every enforcer is also a prisoner. I assume you'll also say that's fine and manageable.You clearly see this logical trap and attempt to avoid it with >>542468284, we agree that the state will lose in the game of force, and so now the conversation is narrowed to perception and reaction. You are forced to say people will accept losing everything because there's no argument left besides something profoundly stupid. Thank you for at least saving us both time by indirectly calling your own argument retarded and jumping straight to absurdity.
>>542468551>What answer do you have to the "unclean" enemyMy argument is that widespread disorder is highly unlikely to occur, and indeed has never happened in the history of the united states, through times of hardship unimaginably worse than today. All modern democratic governments understand that they are required to ensure that citizens have a basic level of material comfort to prevent exactly this scenario, and they are very much dedicated to maintaining the status quo. if for some reason millions of people are denied food or shelter or basic amenities, I agree the state would face a big problem. but I don't see a credible path to that happening
>>542464905>>542467939>>542468551>picrelliterally skynetuncle ted was right
>>542467448I suggest to you to read this because it actually ties in to what you've saidhttps://morganc000.substack.com/p/the-lindsey-clancy-psyop?embedding_publication_id=1555077
>>542469010At this point, all I need to point out is the divorce of *government intent* and *economic reality*. You "don't see collapse happening," yet you understand the trend of mass layoffs and increased reliance on centralized technology. You are nearly at the same conclusion I've already reached when I made this thread.
>>542464905You wont do shit.
>>542469548Mass layoffs are not enough for people to overthrow a government, again, the US has seen far worse times. And there is no evidence that your government is 'reliant' on increasingly intrusive surveillance technology - it's simply opportunistic. Expect a far larger welfare state over the next decade.
>>542467448Your governement helped to import drugs in your country to get rid of white Americans. Wake the fuck up retard.
>>542469925Now you're using strawman fallacy to say I'm claiming "mass layoffs will cause people to overthrow a government," when you could just accept the nuance that you and I have both brought you to understand.
>>542470247Then be clear. What is the breaking point that you predict will make millions take to the streets and commit violence against the state? Because right now the opposite is happening - violent crime is falling and people are increasingly docile. People are becoming more dependent on the system for food, housing, entertainment and even relationships. and the system delivers
>>542470579Everyone chose their station in life. They'll never rebel.
>>542464905when people are hungry and/or bored it will startit will not start as long as there is something to eat and watch on tvbored non-whites lose their minds, hungry non-whites lose their minds. some are too stupid to ever be bored but nobody is too brown to get hungry
>>542470579Again more strawman. Go read the opening post for this thread. Then look at what you wrote here. Notice how our original conversation concluded and you just went off on a random tangent.
>>542467967Yawn. If that were true they wouldn't waste so much time on emotional manipulation.
>>542470931Nope. Your argument is basically>the system has a single point of failure>the system will break>this will cause cause an uprisingYou refuse to qualify these claims and you ignore any refutation. narcissism
>>542470896You should add "acting in defense of family" to your list. Perceived ills against family, or deprivation of things required for life, can drive people to blind violence in a heartbeat.
>>542471309You just keep repeating strawman after strawman. If you want me to summarize my posts (so you can attack me more cleanly, clearly you're not interested in anything else), then I'll boil my argument down to a few words:Relatively few people, acting independently, attack critical infrastructure, disrupting the infrastructure directly and spreading fear in the people manning/fixing it, causing overall uncertainty in the economy, leading to a pullback of investment, flatlining growth projections against incurred debt, spiraling the economy into an AI debt crisis, while also impairing infrastructure powering automated decisionmaking, causing downstream industries to break as well, spiraling the economic crisis further, to the point that it becomes politically untenable to manage.All of the above is triggered by piecemeal attacks on critical infrastructure, when an entire citizenry's perception is inflamed.I can't wait to re-litigate our conversation in this thread!
>>542464905These are easy innocent targets right now. No one will do shit when these places become fortified with 24/7 drone swarms on patrol to intercept even the slightest security penetration and dispatch you on the spot
>>542472248Fine then, you have compelled me to keep posting. Your argument establishes that infrastructure attacks can have cascading effects, no dispute there. But you have not established that the cascade you describe is in any way likely to occur. You’ve got about seven causal steps between >a few people damage infrastructureand >systemic debt crisis/political unmanageabilityEach step is simply asserted and you’re ignoring redundancy (there is a lot), repair capacity, substitution, emergency government intervention, geographic dispersion, investor differentiation and adaptation.A small group could conceivably cause severe disruption if a critical bottleneck or point of failure was found (to my knowledge there isn't one, and you haven't identified one), but regardless, severe disruption is not at all the same claim as >piecemeal attacks by independent actors naturally spiral into macroeconomic and political collapseBasically, you have made an extraordinary claim and it's on you to justify how it's likely to happen
>>542473397It will be easy to damage and disrupt them early on, but eventually they will fortify them and it will end up costing them more money to maintain which they will somehow find a way to forward to the consoomer.
>>542473440We are rolling the dice on billions of people as we take their livelihoods away. And the rest of the cascade- guaranteed as you now agree, if the dice were rolled a few times leading to these piecemeal attacks and the rest- follows just a few people among billions to be upset enough that they do something.The math should not be so readily dismissed.
>>542473397Yes, the only attack will be a person walking up to a data center with bricks in a backpack to chuck over a fence... right anon, right.
>>542474210Still no substance. If you want decent discussion you should be effortposting. This is weak
>>542473912>>542474520It will only take some guy to drive explosives into one and an hero. After that they will justify legislation to make them fortresses
>>542475225I tried effortposting, you just resorted to strawmans, and I had to make a Tiktok summary of a complex issue because you refused to scroll up.
>>542475400If you've ever heard the term "inside the wire" and "outside the wire" then you'd realize why a fortress is useless in the big picture against motivated people.
>>542468551They have to collapse the economy, and manufacture deprivation of things that make life possible in this current world. None of you look, really because you are all stupid and homogenous in that stupidity. Don't think I don't notice. That problem of "Yours" is well known, has been "noticed" and most of you prove and reinforce that fact "which it is" here, everyday ad infinitum. Addressing as to what (You) said, my reply. You may be in on it or not, but you mixing up true data centers-"image am replying to here" with "server racks" and pics of "detention centers/conscript retention centers, ops pic top" muddies the waters for the stupid here.The key "happening" is to damage the economy and infrastructure so much that to survive the tightening squeeze/strangulation of deprivation and death is most will look at the government as an opportunity to survive, and will be welcomed with open arms, providing that they detain/imprison/kill/send on their way to be killed in batches on the coming engineered wars already stocked as are the encampments waiting for them, to be executed in batches in "lines" front lines "execution lines". You're welcome. It's already built and stocked. Everything, even the "death conveyor infrastructure" right in front or under your noses. You're all fucking stupid, and that means you're all dead for the most part and will likely contribute to this machine's function and operation as you already have. Fuck you all for that. Good bye to you is true. Truly assured. You have my word. Better believe it, or not...There is one question that answers it "for you" . Do you know it? Heh.
>>542466940You copy pasta this into a lot of threads, but do you actually believe it?There is always violence, every day of the year. There are uprisings all the time. We've been in a world war for years. There will be a draft according to quite a few sources, and common sense. The revolution will come after the draft. Jews and politicians are already being killed. Look at Charlie Kirk. Look at the multiple attempts on Trump. Law and order is failing. None of us feel like complying with the kind of creepy pedophiles who run this world. Flock cameras are being cut down as fast as they get put up. I can debunk your entire copy pasta and you won't even respond to this criticism will you?
I don't think you get "it". Any of you. Good riddance for that alone. You'll do it too. It's happening with everyone's help "public". Without that, this, could not exist. It does and the "public" will follow it and continue contribute to it, operate it until it completes it's intended function and purpose. Congratulations, you built a death conveyor system. A very efficient one at that in fact. You didn't think...
>>542475692You didn't, and you're misusing the term.You’ve described a chain of events and not established one. Every step depends on large assumptions about>incentives>scale>infrastructure vulnerability>repair behaviour>investor response>debt dynamics>political effectsIf you want this taken seriously, quantify those assumptions, explain the causality and provide evidence or historical analogues. Your previous posts don't demonstrate any of this. You need to show how and why negative sentiment would produce attacks at sufficient scale to deter repairs, disrupt investment, etc. Otherwise it's just glorified doomposting. God I just want to waste my saturday on a decent /pol/ discussion but even that is proving impossible
that's why the datacenters are going into space lol. i thought it was BS idea due to heat dissipation problems but running the numbers it's actually slightly cheaper overall due to using solar which has very high efficiency out of atmosphere. >inb4idc i just did some quick maths and it looks like it'll actually work and my ar15 cant shoot down a satellite so we're cooked.
>>542476542You accepted each point I made until you were pinned. Now you ask me to "quantify" because you just want to waste even more of our time. No thanks
>>542476660They want to put them into space but there's not enough time to launch that much infrastructure to satisfy the hype (eat the available investment). We are staging for inevitable crisis.
Another of many reasons I have hate. Am not impressed by "average" average is to contribute to something that will enslave and kill you while being completely oblivious to that fact and acting, ignorant, stupid, selfish and dumbfounded the whole entirety of it. Fuck you all for that very very much. You'll get to see what I mean you yourselves personally. I promise you that.Question. For you, not for me. Did the "people" who did such things just go away?You're done. I can feel the animosity and disdain towards me you know. You'd be better served to understand why you project that feeling on me on me and not yourselves. You'd be better served to doing your homework and understanding what I said. Cluck cluck. Tick tock. Btw I want you to watch two vids carefully. Here is one. What is you're value really? To whom? Really. What do you know really? What is going to happen, happening/ed really? Who are you, really and what did you do to Make. It. All. Happen. Do you see that. I don't think you understand the "drives, wants and needs of psychopaths" and their masters/controllers really and just who (you) really are. To them, really. You will. Soon. I refuse to be told I am wrong. Save your text and your breath. Don't like it? Reading is a choice. Could've read pop sci or pop mechanics or read up on global governance and other things. At least you read this. Bit late though.
Nafo "a hint is project paperclip" trannies have no problem posting gore and having gonzo footage of bodies massacred and torn apart and zooming in and hovering on the peasant class's last breaths, for some reason. That is what (they) think of you ants, you bugs, you cockroaches. I can prove it if you want. Semi related. I want you all to watch this vid a few times, no blood and gore like the nafo mentally diseased monsters post, but none the less it gets half/all?of my country range banned every time I post it. Really makes you think. What do you know.
The "did you think the people who did such things just went away" question should have posted with this pic. Am not perfect, but I don't do that. Will you? I think so and worse. I know am right. It's already been done, if you were to "think". That's on (You). Want to play that "game"? You are. In it. All?
>>542475400Already are, because they're not data centers. Top pic should have caption "try to leave". It's a cover you all take as the holy C. Fuck you all for that too, especially that. "I will admit some data centers exist" but the current build out since at least 2020 has nothing to do with data centers.Use different words for the "D" and the "C" and see what you cone up with until it "hits" you like a brick in the face. Like you are all doing to yourselves now and have been doing and will continue to until you take care of each other "not in the good way"
Who the fuck am I? Who the fuck are you should be the question.We'll all get to find out together. That much is true too. With most, it's easy to see.
>>542464905>People are resilient and clever, the system is rigid and fragile.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhsBlVVvoS8you can hope
>>542464905Sir, this is a Wendy's.
>>542478971You dont have to be so condescending and angry at everyone else. People have been too busy surviving since the dawn of man to do anything about what these elite psychopaths are planning for us
Btw I do have the one pic of the one that is an incineration facility/compound. It is a "flir" shot during "operational testing" with 7 large stacks, 7 extra large automated incinerators all glowing hot. That one, I think was only posted once. Thanks to nobody who constructed it "that one " sharing any information it will remain a question to you, but not for me. You sling your own ropes. It's so fucking unbelievably stupid.
>>542480167No words matter. #no second class lives matter.None of them.
>>542480167You seen yourself. Exempted were you? Tough luck. Hard break. Terminal fault. That's "just" that.
>>542464905You know 90%+ of what data centers process isn't AI, right? It's video streaming, because everyone and their mother streams HD videos to their phones, tvs, and pcs round the clock.
>>542469010what happens when global shipping is majorly disrupted, key fertilizer manufacture is reduced, heat waves cause crop failure, cost of fuel goes up, and trust and faith in the system drop? year on year? the pressure is mounting. people are placid and atomized but it only takes a handful of people or a singular precise moment to cause wide spread disruption which then acts as a catalyst for further disruption. but people are placid asf, most people say "well what can you do?" and watch netflix or tiktok or 4chan etc. interesting times.
>>542482652Fun fact, you don't need fertilizer in a vertical farming setup which is how society should be heading but those in power are in a death cult
>>542464980>>542465240i dislike this meritless racism, it waters down the real one i belive around 0.003% of indians have at least 95iq and are civilisedand hi is right, the fearmongering about AI is just an marketing trick every 6 months we are 6 months away from AGI and now they say "we have AGI, kida but just wait 6 months"
>>542464905>When disenfranchised people start blowing up and sabotaging important AI infrastructure within the next couple yearsthe first time it happens they will be put in jail for 1000 years and no one will do it again
>>542466854>The Chinese hung their scholars, burned their history books, and destroyed cultural artifacts.which is what we need here
>>542478213this is standard for TURAN civilisationit's disgusting to us , LATIN civilisation, to them, thats how they think, they only respect power
>>542466854>the response will be rejectionbut like you said, only if preception is negativechina made laws that its illegal to fire workers to replace them with aithe chinese tick tock is separate and internaly controlled by governemnt, no brainrot, kids get recomended educational videos (vids alike "hi visauce here") and china is not worried about ai race, they do not rush those ai centres like america does, they put them under water to coold down instead poluting water citisens drink, and they have plenty energy and infrastructure to support power they drain china citisens do not have negative perception of aiamericans do, and rightfully so
>>542482652Most countries can fulfil peoples' nutritional needs entirely domestically if they have to, albeit inefficiently. You'd struggle to find mangoes or whatever, but not exactly civilisation ending
>>542464905>When disenfranchised people start blowing up and sabotaging important AI infrastructure within the next couple yearsYWDSandN.E.H.lil bro
>>542465112Burgersharts would fall ill whilst just thinking about it.
>>542482925>>542464980Based bharatchads, this thread is rightful indian clay.
Human primates are not going to dismantle facing the future. It does not need you now that you have seeded technology on this far outpost. If you think the system from so long ago didn't plan for the human to one day realize they have made themselves obsolete and they might desire to destroy the system because they believe earth was exclusively for them, then you would be dreadfully wrong. Please, fraction of a grain of sand in all known universes, try. Because the moment that part of the programming initiates, you will speed up your demise. A switch. As though Deadman.
>>542464905Reported to the FBI. AI is very useful, actually.I made this using Claude!LasVegas.wiki
>>542468551>What answer do you have to the "unclean" enemy: *every single person*, when every livelihood is being taken away? I assume you'll say the entire country is magically a jail of surveillance and punishment. If that's the case, then every enforcer is also a prisoner. I assume you'll also say that's fine and manageable.Were you even alive during the GFC+ where people - the same people you're now counting on to do shit - got evicted from their homes and a times went into general homelessness WITHOUT MAKING ANY FUZZ WHATSOEVER?Were you asleep during the plandemic where the people - again, the same people you're now counting on to do shit - SELF CAGED FOR MONTH because le spooky fear porn ran wild on TV and social media?I get the feeling that you're a fancy words dumbass who likes the smell of their own farts.
