because the United States is fundamentally incapable of protecting Taiwan.
>>542474026Is she wrong?
>>542474026didn't her husband send the 7th Fleet out there in 96 when China threatened Taiwan and they folded like umbrellas?
>protecting taiwanamericans
>>542474140I'd like to see the clip, but yes, she's wrong. Unless Taiwan wants to get neutered like Hong Kong, they need nukes yesterday. Japan as well.
>>542474303Hush, memejeet
>>542474026Actually wrong, we just need to start using nukes...Why build them if we can't use them?We need to establish dominance.
>>542474026China's modern military achievements are comparable to Italy's. They won't try to annex countries with more than 2 million inhabitants.
China has a "warlord" system. The warlords that fight the USA will be defenseless against the other warlords. Oh, don't forget the Clinton's too bribes from China. The Buddhist nun's scandal. Got caught, they had to refund the bribe but the chinks kept the MIRV Warhead and Loral Missile technology...
But it would be funny to see mutts humiliated one more time. No less by some rice farmers that mutts themselves industrialized by outsourcing cheap labor lmao
>russia attacks innocent side, gets trashed>america attacks innocent side, gets trashedDo you seriously think the chink army is somehow better and not just yet another paper tiger?
>>542474026>Hillary Clinton speakingWhy? Who cares?Fuck off, loser.
>>542474026Why is hillary making the news all of a sudden? this is like the 3rd thread in the last few days.
>>542474026Eh, you won't do shit, chinkcuck
>>542474026China plays the long game.When it's done bringing it's semiconductor industry online it'll flood the market with dirt cheap chips and reduce Taiwan to an economic disaster zone.They won't have to take Taiwan because Taiwan will be begging to join China in the end.
We definitely *can* defend Taiwan.But we now know our military consists of Mexicans and black women who just want benefits, and who won't actually fight for the country because they have no stake in it.60% of our military would say "fuck dis shit" if their life was at risk at all.
The D-Day landings were a huge challenge with no guarantee of success--Eisenhower had a resignation letter prepared in case the effort didn't work. That was across 28 miles of water with total air and naval superiority on the mostly flat Normandy coast. To get to Taiwan would involve crossing 150 miles of water and landing on a mountainous coast that is basically a natural fortress. In fact during WW2 the US military considered an invasion of Taiwan to disrupt Japanese supply lines but decided the likely casualty cost wasn't worth it.
The most defensive meta in warfare history and this bitch waves the white flag before any shots are fired.
>>542474026she plans to short TSC stocks the moment China launches the invasion
>>542474313Could we engage in total war with China and win? Probably, yeah. Are we going to? Probably not. American isolationism is at a local high. We're going to stay isolationist until something forces us to do something else. There is currently a massive geopolitical power vacuum due to our erratic actions. Power vacuums lead to instability leads to war. There's just no appetite for defending Taiwan, and even once Trump is gone, that appetite is unlikely to spontaneously renew. I don't think Hillary here is talking about what Taiwan should do based on the lies we tell ourselves. She's talking about what the real America will likely do, and it isn't to support Taiwan.
This isn’t remotely true, but it’s a moot point because China isn’t going to invade Taiwan. They have no reason to. Taiwan has nothing genuinely important that they need to fold in. They make semiconductors. The Chinese are perfectly capable of making their own. Beyond that, Taiwan doesn’t have any desirable resources, doesn’t have a geostrategically important location, nothing. Of course they want it but there is no reason to risk invasion, particularly as KMT ideology has evaporated in Taiwan.
>>542474026She isn’t wrong. Nobody’s gonna do shit to help globohomo jews fight the chinks
>>542474746That misses the point. The real reason they want the place is to have open access to the Pacific.
>>542474140No Hilldawg is right for once
>>542474200Yes, that was the 90s though. We live in a very different world now.
>>542474466> Do you seriously think the chink army is somehow betterAre you gonna be the one who goes and fights them to find out, nigger? None of us give a fuck about island chinks
>>542474746>doesn’t have a geostrategically important locationYes it does. Control of Taiwan would make China superior in the East China Sea and break the Japan-Philippine bloackade.
>>542474026The clintons are demons. Not bad humans, just actual demons.
>>542474408Meanwhile, you've lost a million and a half of your fellow russians in a 3-Day SMO against the poorest country in Europe. In terms of humiliation, nobody can top rusmutts this century.>>542474581>one child policy >four pests campaign >great leap forward >"china plays the long game"Kek
>>542474713You couldn't beat the Houthis you delusional shitskin
>>542474799> The real reason they want the place is to have open access to the Pacific.They have a huge Pacific coastline, it doesn’t seems like a massive issue. The only people who care about this are the globohomo jew trannies who want to maintain globohomo dominance of the Pacific. It’s not like the chinks are going to immediately be in Guam or Hawaii nigger
>>542474877>>542474645Last I checked it's the same geographical bottleneck to an invasion it was 30 years ago.
>>542474932All of our globohomo jew presidents have been for decades
>>542474935>NAFO tranny cope intensifies You’re losing every day lol
>>542474026Did Hillary forget that it was Bill Clinton who handed over US rocket and satellite technology to China which was part of his Chinagate controversyPresident Bill Clinton approved waivers allowing U.S. satellite technology to be exported to China for commercial rocket launches, which became a major political controversy in 1998Policy Shift: In 1996, the Clinton administration moved the authority for licensing commercial satellite exports from the State Department to the Commerce Department. Critics argued this made the process more political and less strict on national security. The Loral and Hughes Deals: U.S. aerospace firms like Loral Space & Communications and Hughes Electronics worked with Chinese state-owned entities to launch American-made satellites. The Investigation: Concerns arose after U.S. companies shared technical data with Chinese engineers to help determine why a 1996 Chinese rocket carrying an American satellite failed. Critics claimed this review improved China's ballistic missile guidance technology.https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/05/22/china.money/
>>542474994The houthis aren't China. The houthis aren't seaming ships across the pacific or mounting an island-hopping campaign. They aren't launching sorties of advanced airframes or maintaining complex logistical chains. We also couldn't use ground troops. I said "total war" for a specific reason. I'm talking about outcomes and capacities when we marshal the output of our society to engage in existential war against China, which is necessarily what Taiwan would turn into at this point.
>>542474507She's going to run for President again.
>>542474026Hilldawgs we are so fucking back
>>542475039Anon wasn’t suggesting the geography of the Taiwan strait has changed. Globohomo power has undeniably evaporated. They’re losing wars every which way man
>>542475126Global South lost, turdieYou will always be a poor, brown monkey
>>542474026even Biden threatened to level crucial Taiwan infrastructure (aka the chip tech factories) if China made a moveUS isn't interested in providing the island actual aid. The bitch is parroting nothing new
>>542474026First jewkraine and now trannywan?Are you fucking kidding me dude?Cant I keep a single one of MY dollars so I can give them to Israel?Fucking clown world. Russia forever & China will grow stronger
>>542474935>seething about russia for some reasonLolwot. That's expected from my flag. Your turd worlders need to shill for them, not against
>>542475132The Chinese didn't understand back then how to build a rocket guidance system that could withstand in-flight vibration. Anyway, afterwards Congress banned the transfer of aerospace tech to China.
>>542474026I'm not sure China will fall for this at this point. We have been trying to trick them into invading Taiwan for years and they haven't taken the bait. Now we are doing the WWII strategy we did with Japan, cut off energy and leave a seemingly defenseless target within reach. But I think China will still do nothing. Maybe they are smart, maybe cowardly, but this ruse will not work.
>>542475173You have enough resources to mobilize 3 carrier groups and you had 2 on the task. It was the closest to total war as your rotten jew empire can manage
>>542475173> when weWho’s “we”? The American people have no interest in this globohomo empire war for jews
>>542475248>turdie At least foreigners are finally waking up to the realities of what conditions are like here.
>>542475173What is happening in the ME right now is exactly what war with China looks like in 2026. This is the way we have decided to beat them. I think it is a much better strategy than waiting 10 years for China to have their military up to snuff.
>>542474026Taiwan GoToThE ChInA
>>542475412>I think it is a much better strategy than waiting 10 years for China to have their military up to snuff.They have no modern combat experience and their officers spend a lot of time studying political propaganda instead of military stuff.
>>542474026Wow so the democrats were happy to get all the ukrainians killed in a war with russia but with taiwan, it's "abandon resistance" since they are nonwhites
>>542475486Go choke on a jewish dick
>>542475326> But I think China will still do nothing. Maybe they are smart, maybe cowardly, but this ruse will not work.Correct. They’re gonna wait for Taiwan to just democratically rejoin with the mainland. They’ve already been winning undeniably for 50+ years
>>542475330No war has ever been won by airpower alone. What happened isn't a mystery. Our neuro-monocellular leaders decided to ignore history and play a game of pretend that this time would be the first. It's not at all a mystery why we failed. You can have the sharpest sword in the world but if you decide to go into a fight using the pommel instead of the blade, you're not going to do very well.
>>542474140Nope
>>542474713>the absolute STATE of burger copeholy KEK
>>542474140No. She’s a cunt. But a realist.
Has the CCP military ever even been in a war? I know they had some malnourished peasants running around as cannon fodder in Korea. They have skirmished with Vietnam a few times and never really won.Why do we act like they will be able to mount a successful invasion by any other means than pure numbers Zerg tactics? Nothing they have has been battled tested, from command to training to tactics to equipment. For the last 20 years all they have done are literal fist fight skirmishes with Pajeets.
>>542475173>The houthis aren't Chins they are actually much stronger that is why zog can win this time
>>542474026Can I get an actual source and not some cockroach dribbling on twitter
>>542474140Unable to? NoStrategically unwise to? Yes
>>542474313Hong Kong is Chinese brother. That’s long over.
>temporarily embarrassed warriorsmutt-GODS...I kneel
>>542475633It's from her interview on morning Joe
>>542475706Okay? So no source. Just a cockroach
>>542474026I suspect thats not what she said.
>>542474601>But we now know our military consists of Mexicans and blackYou think white people want to die so TSMC can maintain its monopoly
>>542475616The PLA was a meme until Xi Jinping reformed it into something resembling a modern military but they still have no combat experience in modern history plus officers spending a lot of time studying political texts, something Xi won't discard because he believes the August 91 coup failed from the Soviets forgetting to keep their military indoctrinated.
>>542475173>when we marshal the output of our society to engage in existential war against China,It's not an existential war for me, it's one for the government. And right now that government is wholly owned by israel. China could play the role of the French and help patriots liberate the country from kikes.
>>542475815Mercs fight for pay. Yes most of them are white. Not sure why retards on /pol/ think nonwhites in america are bad but nonwhite enemies of america are godmen.
>>542475554> No war has ever been won by airpower alone. What happened isn't a mystery. Our neuro-monocellular leaders decided to ignore history and play a game of pretend that this time would be the first. It's not at all a mystery why we failed. Holy shit you’re dense or very young and naive. The world itself is at war, we’re in a psychology of poker environment. Everything that’s for show is somehow a distraction for the real reasons it’s occurring. They started that war knowing full well what was going to happen. Either they’d somehow get stupidly lucky knocking off the Iranian government, or the Persian Gulf would no longer be the oil exporting hotspot region of the world.It was the U.S. and western powers who helped those Gulf Arabs develop their oil infrastructure and economies in the first place. The rest of the world developed off of that architecture for the world economy while we lost for 80+ years. Now we simply can’t afford it anymore. The globohomos therefore calculated that the hit to the image of American military power was preferable to adversarial nations being able to continue to get wealthy and strong on economic systems they never set up or maintained in the first place. This is how the fundamental economic architecture of the world gets changed. It’s happened before and during ever major war.
>>542475412Everyone knows the is controlled by Jews. This war with Iran is the US trying as hard as it can
>>542474140>We wont do shitWas a very stupid thing to say on live tv.
>>542475905>nonwhites in america are badBecause they're in America. >but nonwhite enemies of america are godmenbecause they're not America, and are fighting mercenaries who are paid with our tax dollars that are taken from our paychecks at gunpoint
>>542475940>The world itself is at war, we’re in a psychology of poker environment.Okay, but I'm not talking about poker environments or psychology or whatever. I'm talking about wars being won by airpower alone. I'm not sure why you went on a three paragraph rant about something totally unrelated to my point but... cool story, bro?
>>542475905>White people are good because they kill people for money Shalom
>>542475873With how xi purges the pla every 6 months now is suspect its less capable of fighting than ever before. Not that it matters Ukraine proved china cant invade taiwan. If thy could destroy the russian fleet with no navy and a few home drones what do you think taiwan would do to china barges slowly crossing the 100 miles of water separating it from the mainland? If china wants military glory they will have to look elsewhere.
>>542474466Even worse Taiwan is a fortress island. Russia has a land borderUS has a dozen bases in the region and can't even take the tiny Kharg island with 90% of Iran's oil exports.People are delusional to think the Chinese could pull it off.
>>542476055Yes
>>542474026why isn´t this childkilling mutilateing blood drinking witch dead yet ?
>>542475959She's controlled by different Jews allied with China. Or they may all be allied with China and it's all a charade. Meaning nothing she says matters. Why you would have to take it a step further and lie about what she says is next level ridiculous and OP should be shot
>>542475629Have you ever heard of the term "asymmetric warfare"? Go look it up and then consider how that differs from conventional war. The US and China are peer powers at this point. Asymmetric war is totally different from near-peer war. The threat environment is totally different and you optimize for it differently.
>>542474140Mrs Clinton is right if she claims that the USA is unable to stop Mainland China from taking Taiwan. Luckily for the USA, they also appear unwilling to protect Taiwan.
>>542475940>send them all the jobs and factories>just bring the factories back?>no, let’s start a suicidal war instead
>>542474140No, she's dunking on DRUMPF for not allowing HER turn, since she's never getting now that turn
>>542476120>She's controlled by different Jews97 percent of Jew are Zionist the other 3 percent are controlled opposition.
>>542475905>that’s all American White men have ever been, goyim mercs who fight for pay Fuck you, White man hating globohomo jew piece of shit
>>542476152China is the definition of a paper tiger. The fear mongering has gone on long enough
>>542476146>asymmetric warfareLike bombing elementary schools? That may be a good way to celebrate passover but it did nothing to help zog with the war
>>542474026She's a chicom puppet and always has been. Most of the DNC is. Oddly, from a recent-ish interview about the Taiwan issue I think AOC is too dumb to even be allowed into their cabal.Taiwan is Arrakis. Those semiconductors MUST flow. I was not here. I did not say this.
>>542475940You are a lifelong zog dog and you have overdosed on copium. I guarantee you are the type of person who still cannot admit we lost the War in Afghanistan
>>542476081Yes as I said the US military considered invading in WW2 and then decided it wasn't worth the projected casualty cost.
>>542476296No, not like bombing elementary schools, retard-kun.
>>542476207Yes thats what the military is and despite shitskin cope meme when you look at any combat unit in the us military its gonna look like the /pol/ ethnostate fantasy. Oh and recruiting these days is at a highpoint.
>>542476405>Starve the people>The military recruitment is doing great*Urinates on your tire*
>>542476405The US military is even less white than the US general population lmao
>>542476039> Okay, but I'm not talking about poker environments or psychology or whatever. I'm talking about wars being won by airpower alone.Your post was talking about how unintelligent the decision makers are about conducting a war when you don’t even understand their motivations. Their motivations weren’t a glorious American victory that wasn’t possible. Fucking up the world oil markets to hurt our adversaries was possible though and still is. That’s my point in trying to illustrate the strategy for you. You’re in here asking questions like “Why would an offensive football team waste a down to spike a football”. It’s as if you think there isn’t a clock that’s a part of the game they’re playing.
>>542476458Are you starving ranjeet?
>>542474026she and her husband received donations from ccp agents>>542474200that was 30 years agogermany rearmed in less time after ww2, also after a humiliationeven if you're conservative you cannot objectively look at trump's conduct and conclude that he presents a credible deterrent to _peer_ adversaries
>>542474140>Is she wrong?Let's just say if China invades Taiwan they will figure out why we don't have feee healthcare.
>>542476462Nope. Its more white and the combat units are ethnostate levels of white. Spotting a nigger in special forces is like playing wheres waldo.
>Irrelevant powerless harpy says a thingAnd we should care, why?
>>542474645Taiwan's west coast is mostly flat, is nowhere near as fortified as Normandy was, Taiwan's military is mostly outdated, and Chinese production capacity is so insane they can spam cheap drones and make life in Taiwan such an impossibility the Taiwanese have no choice but to surrender. Which they should do now because why be a backwater getting browner every year when you could instead be the richest province in China?
>>542476496>that was 30 years agoSo back when the US was still a majority white country and not 40 trillion dollars in debt
>>542476490>Fucking up the world oil markets to hurt our adversaries was possible though and still is. Retarded zog dog, this is like cutting our own throat to bleed on Iran's white coat>haha rekt you>empire dies
>>542474026She's right, you know.
>>542476321NORF FC NOOO!
>>542475173If china went total war they would fuck up the US. They control tons of critical resources that you aren't even aware of. Pharmaceutical and nutrient precursors for one. They'd also be able to pump out a billion drones a day, with 30M extra fighting age men with no purpose in life. They also have 3M+ chinks in the US, just one percent of those go rogue that's 30k slants fucking up your infrastructure from within. Good luck.
Burger-bros shouldn't you deal with Iran and Russia before getting excited about a new fight?
>>542474026>Chinese sock puppet says Taiwan should just surrender already
>>542476590Well at least the Republicans are going to lose the midterms
>>542476616Nah, were going for Cuba next
>>542476183Yes sending them the entirety of our economy and manufacturing was a calculated giveaway the globohomos did to help the Chinks develop. They thought the chinks were just gonna magically turn into a Democracy I think. In any event the globohomos sold us out. That’s why the Chinks have Henry Kissinger CPC state medals despite being an American member of the Nixon admin lolIt was a retarded strategy that didn’t work out. Most of us understand it. That’s why none of us are willing to go to war for the island chinks on behalf of globohomo jews anyway.Clearly they have and still have retard feminine kikes calling the shots on everything. It’s retarded to fight for a system like that.
>>542476492>haha people starvingoh so you do work for the government
>>542476602Remember too that China enforces ideological conformity on both the people they send abroad and the ones who are already here, like those CCP police stations they operate in the US and Canada and even shit like the Confucius Institutes they have in colleges. They absolutely could find many Chinaman to bomb some infrastructure without an issue.
Couldn't even beat the houthis.
>>542476517Did the Houthis find out?Did the IRGC find out?Did the Taliban find out?
>>542476683>Invade a country we have had blockaded since the 1960's to finally prove communism doesn't work.
>>542476324You answered your own question. The husk has been fed enough to keep the demon walking.
>>542476490>Their motivations weren’t a glorious American victory that wasn’t possible. Fucking up the world oil markets to hurt our adversaries was possible though and still is.This seems a little bit too schizophrenic to me. It requires a degree of competency and forethought which doesn't seem to be present. Trump is a "gut feeling" kind of guy, not a planner. His secretary of defense is a Fox News host and national guard major. This isn't exactly the geopolitical powerhouse you want to imply. The much more parsimonious explanation is unfortunately that we went into Iran with vague goals, an undefined win condition, and tied hands: no ground troops. The idea that this is all 4D chess is additionally complicated by the fact that China -- by far -- has the largest strategic oil reserve in the world. But you left "our adversaries" undefined, so I don't want to steel man your argument too hard, mostly because I'm not sure you have a clue what you're talking about kek. Which adversaries was this designed to hurt? What makes it worth the humiliation, the loss of stature in the ME, and the fact that we seem to have hurt ourselves more than our adversaries -- diesel prices are currently skyrocketing.
>>542474713>American isolationism is at a local high>just bombed Iran for no reason at allIt all depends on if jews care about a free Taiwan or not
>>542476889>just bombed Iran for no reason at allAnd this is exceptionally unpopular. I'm talking about a potential future president responsive to the people who elected him or her, not Trump.
>>542476323What? I point out that we lost in Afghanistan constantly. That doesn’t mean the strategy of globohomo going out and starting losing wars to achieve various strategic aims is incorrect. That’s the kind of shit empires do man. If a minor war must be lost with a hit to the international image being the cost while some greater strategic aims are achieved, it becomes worth it in the eyes of those types. In Chess various pieces are routinely sacrificed as a part of the greater strategy. Thats why it was always called the game of kings.
>>542476813Damn, they've been at communism for 60 years and it still hasn't worked? I think they've proven it themselves, experiment over. Time to bring freedom to the Cuban people
>>542476602>brillions of drones a day! brillions of drones a day!Oh it won't be us, alone, chang. We're gonna take some overdue nanking happy snaps.
>>542476929>we're not going to tell you that's what we're doing>we're also not going to tell you our actual goal
>>542476546> and the combat units are ethnostate levels of whitDamn the sign really is right. You globohomos are insanely evil. You can’t even respect and humanize us enough to capitalize the word. Fuck off nobody believes your lies
>>542476323It’s part of the great reset
>>542476252Did you also see Iran and Russia as paper tigers? How about Muslim peasants? Did you see them as paper tigers?In a war, the Chinese supply lines would be short. America lacks the industrial capacity to supply a war against China, even if they could supply their troops. Once American carriers are sunk, American won't be able to build new ships in time to be relevant for the war.
>>542474713kys loser
>>542476765the US imports an estimated 78~ percent of its vitamins and 62~ percent of its feed-grade amino acids directly from Chinese producers. Biotin, folic acid, and Vitamin B12, the U.S. is 100 percent import-dependent on China, with absolutely no viable alternative sourcing currently available anywhere in the worldChina exercises near-total control over the complex fermentation-based processes necessary to produce 6-APA and 7-ACA. These are the mandatory precursor molecules for virtually all penicillin and cephalosporin antibiotics globally.The highly volatile and complex fluorination processes required to stabilize and formulate statins (cholesterol), sartans (blood pressure), and SSRIs (antidepressants) are predominantly located in China.The U.S. relies entirely on China for 36 specific molecules, including critical antibiotics (streptomycin, tobramycin, gentamicin, capreomycin, sulfadiazine), essential cancer therapeutics (mitotane, abemaciclib), and critical anesthetics/respiratory drugs (isoflurane, ipratropium bromide).The US has been stripmined at this point.
>>542476321wtf did i just watch
>>542476728Are you starving anon? Do you need assistance from the food bank?
>>542477067Russia is obviously not a paper tiger and the real threat, by virtue of being a non capitulating white state
>>542476590I’ve just been in here telling you what the globohomo strategy is. Not that I think it’s great or that I agree with it. Were strategy autists here. Are you so dense you can’t leave your retard blue team red team domestic shit at the door?
>>542477133>it's okay if other people starvecalm down gman
>>542476928The American public wanting isolationism has no bearing on what the government actually does, regardless of the colored suit the president is wearing. What Israel wants, Israel gets
>>542477019No I dont respect low iq memeslop from anons too young and too brown to post on a red board.
>>542477167Are you starving?
>>542477240Literally or figuratively?
>>542476928>I'm talking about a potential future president responsive to the people who elected him or her, not Trump.Presidents decide to start a war even if the people don't want it. That wouldn't be something new.
>>542474140 Nope, Taiwanese would get slaughtered
>>542477019Reminder that all of the Ottoman Empire’s Janissary soldiers were White.
>>542474200Yeah. The Navy has become far smaller, less advanced in relative terms, and more corrupt in no small part because of the War on Terror.
>>542477067>Did you also see Iran and Russia as paper tigers?Yes, in fact Russia hasn't gotten more than 20 miles into Ukraine in 4 years of attempts.
What chance does any country have without the US
>>542474200Nigger the 90s might as well be a different dimension at this point. From demographics to culture America today is far different than the 90s
>>542475173Why would you bet on a country that can't repair a bridge in Maryland over the world's factory in a total war?
>>542477259Literally
>>542474713>isolationist >while being Israels lap dog in the middle east rnHuh??
>>542474140NOPE YOUR JEWISH RACE MIXING ECONOMIC ZONE IS ACTUALLY COLLAPSING KEK SHILLARY 2069 IT'S HER TURN
>>542474348>pull up catalogue>ctrl+f "BRICS">0 resultsHuh that's weirdfor an entire website full of jeets I mean
>>542476872> This seems a little bit too schizophrenic to me. It requires a degree of competency and forethought which doesn't seem to be present. Trump is a "gut feeling" kind of guy, not a planner.>Trump is a gut feeling guy not a planner That’s exactly the public image a theatrical administration made up of actors and TV personalities would present You ask “what adversary” then go on to name the obvious elephant in the room. You’re engaging in that weird lefty pretend not to understand stuff. Go ahead and throw your shoulder out of socket patting yourself on the back about how intelligent you think you are.
>>542474303>> PROTECTING 90% OF THE HIGH END SEMICONDUCTORS & 60% OF THE ENTIRE SHARE OF SEMI-CONDUCTORS MARKET >> SHITSKIN RAJEET NIGGERFAGGGOT MEMEFLAGGOT IS TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THINGS POTTERY
>>542477402Because we are the world's armory, and because we have more or less been at constant war since our inception.
>>542477014>whatever we do, we are victoriousIt's sad that they believe their own garbage
>>542474026
>>542477491>and because we have more or less been at constant war since our inceptionNo we haven't. There have been multi-decade stretches between wars.
>>542477491Now this is KINOKeep it up
>>542477408Literally my economic, political and social mobility has been taken from me, my political representation is borderline nonexistent and my rights trampled, yes. Literally people in other countries are starving or may starve, yes. Such conditions may induce people to join he armed forces out of desperation, without thinking of the consequences, yes.
Technically the last time China fought a war was invading Vietnam in 79 when they lost 20,000 dudes in three weeks.
>>542477335They've been further in since day 1 than we've gotten in to Iran this whole time
>>542477402Because the reason that bridge is a low priority is because there are several other bridges already there that do the job better. They shouldn’t rebuild that bridge at all as it just impedes shipping traffic into a major port and few even used the bridge.
>>542477479>You ask “what adversary” then go on to name the obvious elephant in the room. You’re engaging in that weird lefty pretend not to understand stuff.That's it? You have nothing to say about China's petroleum reserve? No explanation for the fact that this is hurting us more than China? What makes everything we've lost worth it?This is a fundamentally unserious position. You can't even outline the mechanism by which China would be hurt by this, much less more than we are hurting ourselves. Stop posturing and calling people names. Actually make your argument if you can.
who?
>>542475173You forget the most important part, there's a good size of the American population that would willingly aid and join the Chinese side to overthrow this kike gov
>>542474026Isn’t it because the US and China are allies?
>>542477565So you’re hungry right now? No food? No ability to get food except by stealing it? In america and not pakistan?
>>542477640See, that's the problem. China is extremely dependent on oil imports and that can be easily cut off.
>>542474746So official CCP goals such as "Reunification by 2049" (PRC centennial) are, what? Just bluster? There are real political consequences to rallying your nation around a goal and then not carrying through. This is a nationalistic project—national rejuvenation by the centennial is a pillar of Chinese morale in both military and civilian settings. For an average Chinese citizen, taking a two hour commute to slave away at a manufacturing job and then return home to a high-stress family environment where their son's scores on standardized tests could make or break their whole family's future, it becomes necessary that everyone believe in a future of abundance through national progress. If the CCP cannot carry out that future, then God will weep at the ensuing nihilism that will stir the contents of the pressure cooker that is modern China. 1,000,000,000 people, packed into an endless nightmare existence at high density, losing hope.
>>542476081What is the actual consensus among Taiwanese normies being turned into another Ukraine?
>>542474026Apparently 33% of Americans are lower than 80 IQ.
>>542475616>combat experienceWho do you think is helping Iran?
>>542476928> I'm talking about a potential future president responsive to the people who elected him or herDo you actually think the American people have ever had a say in which wars are conducted, started, or even how they’re cleaned up after the fact? Anon, Presidents do whatever and then a big meme thing gets started and next thing you know dudes are getting drafted. Every single time. People voted for FDR who ran on a mostly isolationist, no war platform. His administration got in and sanctioned the Empire of Japan such that they would existentially die if they didn’t gain access to some oil, so they attacked Hawaii then. It happens no matter what.
>>542474026>Americans with an IQ of no less than 80Haha niggers roasted yet again
>>542477680Maybe you didn't grasp what I was talking about when I said people were starved and forced to join the military. I meant starved of options
>>542474140Yes. Attacking is far more difficult than defending
>>542477014>we’re not going to tell you our goals or what our true intentions are Anon, we call them globohomo jews for good reason. It’s exactly what they do.
>>542477213>t. White man hating globohomo jew
>>542474994You’re a retarded leaf that’s only capable of communicating in twitter clap backs. The objective of operation rough rider was to stop the houthis from destroying American ships transiting bab al mandab and the houthis agreed to stop.
>>542477850Especially when you consider how mountainous the west coast of Taiwan is.
>>542477314>the Ottoman Empire brutally captured ethnic European boys to turn them into slave soldiers to fight against their own kind for centuries We know evil ethnic European hating shitskins do that and always have. You’re in here simping for the continuation of it. Why are you so bent on the extinction of ethnic Europeans?
>>542477706China has the largest petroleum reserve in the world by far. China additionally is an autocracy which can arbitrarily cut its use of fossil fuels. The reason why they have this reserve is the exact thing that's going on right now -- so that they can run off reserves instead of being vulnerable to disruptions in supply.
>>542477335>Russia hasn’t won on the time table NAFO trannies demand therefore it’s a loss!Lmfao
>>542477995there's always china disintegrating because it's run by loose federations of mobsters
>>542477841They aren't. There are loads of options. People are joining the military because the current admin cut down of the dei tranny stuff that was driving recruits aways. You may personally be a loser with no options but your average white man is living well in america. More likely you're not white and have a host of mental and criminal issues that limit your job opportunities. I suggest moving to California or Minnesota where the gibs are handed out liberally to such people as yourself.
>>542474200America lost all of its military advantages after 2008. Nuclear weapons do not exist and aircraft carriers are sea yacht coffins after advanced hypersonics innovations.
taiwan is literal heaven on earth. chinks are mad jelly
>>542478023>CISSYTO trannies claiming they would win in 2 weeks now say they won after 4 years and barely controlling the eastlol
>>542478131I'm drowning in bad takes. Someone hit me with a good one please.
>>542477640> This is a fundamentally unserious position. You can't even outline the mechanism by which China would be hurt by this, much less more than we are hurting ourselves.If you think an economy of 1.4 billion can just conduct total war and maintain a navy and feed its people all without energy and risking major internal destabilization, you’ve got a lot of learning to do. By all means though, go ahead and think that chink petroleum reserves are infinite. Players in the Chink oil industry who make a living on it seem to have a different attitude than you, but you have all the answers.
>>542478158every new recruit in the military was promised no new wars, weren't they? lets not be pedantic
What does that hag have to say anyway?I‘m pretty sure Trump is president He will find a way to bullshit his way through, despite the lack of gas
>the us can beat ChinaAll the Chinks would have to do to beat us is to spread crop biowarfare in the middle of the country and stop exporting fertilizer to us. The country would collapse in chaos without access to burgers and corn slop
>>542478178I hate to say eet, but one reason the armistice negotiations in the Korean War took so long was that all the Chinese and North Korean POWs demanded to go to Taiwan and South Korea; none of them wanted to return home.
>>542478231I can guarantee you a state like china is struggling much more with internal loyalties than they'd even utter within their own party
>>542478234Okay, I've given you more than enough opportunity to substantiate the actual mechanism beyond endless vagueposting and strawma'am garbage. I never said China's reserves are infinite. The claim that China would have no energy flow is unsubstantiated and I think it's wrong. The idea that China wouldn't be able to feed itself (or import food) is also unsubstantiated. I have no clue what "players in the Chink oil industry" you're talking about, and neither do you. That's enough of this garbage.
>>542477680>So you’re hungry right now? No food? No ability to get food except by stealing it? In america and not pakistan?There are tens of millions of homeless, underhoused and hungry Americans anon. I see the line of cars for the food bank wrapped around the block on my way to work regularly. That’s not even including all of the people who simply don’t get the food because maybe they live way too far away from a food bank. I fast and skip breakfast and lunch myself every single day. I keep myself going with cheap pot coffee. Yes, there are all kinds of hungry people in America faggot. I work full time, too.
>>542478281>the usChinsect ESL. But if the US wanted to beat China all they have to do is blockade China and Chinese people will start eating each other in a few months
>>542474026>>542474140It's not that the US can't help, the US still follows the One China policy fifty years later. I don't hear many politicians discuss that.She's an idiot.
>>542478238Nobody in the US Army in 1950 had signed up to go to war either. They all assumed they were just going to go to Japan and fuck hos in Soapland. Unfortunately, stuff happens.
>>542478423>blockade Lets see how that's working out for you zogbots in Iran
>>542478532Zognald is trying to keep the straight open near Iran. Against China you can just carpet mine the place.
>>542474140is not even a matter of ability is a matter of will
>>542477995> China additionally is an autocracy which can arbitrarily cut its use of fossil fuels.Reality simply doesn’t work that way for resources your economy and military depend on anon. However big you think chink reserves are, they can be strangled and cut off to the point they dwindle. A serious argument would be the Chinks magically locking down new sources of oil imports which cannot be easily touched or disrupted by globohomo. None of that has come to pass.
>>542478158> People are joining the military because the current admin cut down of the dei tranny stuff that was driving recruits aways. You may personally be a loser with no options but your average white man is living well in america. Everything you said is the polar opposite of the truth faggot. You can’t even humanize us enough to capitalize White, so it’s pretty obvious what you’re up to.
>>542478351There's a lot of mysteries surrounding china's economy. For instance, is their closing of coal mines because they are empty? Is their massive reliance on imports because they have run out? Is the shift to "green energy" an emergency protocol? It hasn't replaced fossil fuel generation capacity. And China would be the first to lie about their power generation and grid strength. Then why are they continuing to build coal plants? Droughts are causing rolling blackouts. They don't even make their own coal coke. There's a lot of logistics that would have to go into determining how long they would survive
>>542474581China doesn't want to take Taiwan by force because it has no use for a hostile population of millions. It would be a burden.And they would destroy their chip industry anyway.So why even bother taking it by force? Just slowly make them irrelevant until they want to rejoin China or just lose their global relevance.
>>542478653>China will just let us carpet bomb them>ignore their bases in south America>ignore their bases in Canada >ignore their spies in america>ignore their navy that's patrolling near south American watersAnon, if america hit China with a carpet bomb offensive, America would get hit with a giga pearl harbor
>>542475185It certainly looks like she got her adrenochrome supply issues fixed and enough work done to pass for human briefly enough to take another shot at it. I would love to see here loose again.
>>542475173You’re out of your mind if you think America would rally together to fight a “total war” with China on behalf of our pedo kike overlords. We’ll just do Holocaust Pt. 2 But For Real This Time instead.
HC is the best. we love her
>>542478351> I never said China's reserves are infinite. The claim that China would have no energy flow is unsubstantiated and I think it's wrong.Because simply disrupting even 10%-30% of oil supplies is enough to induce major economic shocks, disruption and social destabilization. You globohomo weirdos think everything in this life is black or white. I’ve never once said the Chinks would be cut off from all oil imports. They have that pipeline from Russia going through Siberia already in operation with oil flowing. The point is that isn’t even enough to cover the demand they have by a long shot in the event there’s a total disruption of sea borne oil imports to China.
>>542476872>Talks about diesel prices>Not about bondsOh, you a vile negress!
>>542478434> the US still follows the One China policy fifty years laterCorrect that’s been our official policy which was used to justify globalization and destroying the economy of my country. I sure as fuck ain’t gonna help these niggers reverse it because their huge gay gamble failed
>>542474364>Actually wrong, we just need to start using nukes...This is what people dont get about American power, most of it is for show because of politics. The "arsenal of democray" that dominated WW2 was enabled by circumstances that are politically non-viable in America (and have been for decades, especially after Vietnam). Politically, we cannot even pull off another Desert Storm. Its not logistics, really, its politial will and the nation being as dividied as it is. After the cold war, we dominated because everyone else did not give a shit.
>>542474140>Is she wrong?Sort of. She's showing who owns her. Hilldawg and Ol' Bill are 100% Chinese properties. This is the exact kind of shilling you get from her, Pelosi or any of the other CCP kompromati.
>>542478508> Unfortunately, stuff happens.by stuff, you mean constant globohomo jew unannounced empire wars right? Stuff that just accidentally happens no one can foresee
>>542478961Its almost like she is saying whatever she thinks will get media attention and stir shit.
weak pathetic LOSER trump getting dabbed on. SAD!
>>542474026The problem is that if China attacked the US wouldn't come to help Taiwan, as they are incapable of doing that, rather they would come to "strategically" strike TSMC fabs as a scorched earth tactics, "if I can't have it no one will". USA is essentially terrorist and Taiwan knows that and they even secretly plan to target US army if it attempts to pull this shit
>>542478920China has more to lose than we do, they are also less spread out than we are. Most of their population is in the east. You are also ignoring all the shit we have near them.
>>542474601I agree that Mexicans and black women won't fight for the USA, but what makes you assume white men would fight for Taiwan?
>>542479235> She's showing who owns her. Hilldawg and Ol' Bill are 100% Chinese properties.Perhaps globohomo jews should have been concerned about all of that before allowing her to help get rid of the Nixon admin, get her husband elected to the presidency, and spend decades in public life and office herself. At this point she is correct even if she is parroting a chink narrative. None of us are going to fight the chinks for globohomo. You guys fucked us, ruined our lives, communities, families and subjected us to endless demographic replacement and erasure. It’s not our fault the big gay multi-generation strategy failed. Don’t put retard feminine jew types in charge of empires.
>>542474026Maybe, but shes a cunt for saying it out loud. This is why you never elect women
>>542479379Other than commie China's hate boner against the Taiwanese government, the only reason to invade Taiwan is their manufacturing capability. All the world knows this, and have taken steps to produce domestically what Taiwan currently produces for them. So, it would be in the USAs best interest to eliminate that that capability, so that all China is fighting over is a shitty little island that suddenly means nothing to the world, and the US beccomes their chip supplier instead of Taiwan.
>>542474140She’s fundamentally retarded.Let me explain, Taiwan is Ukraine and we have given Taiwan tons of fancy weaponry. Also: Taiwan isn’t a beachhead it is a cliffside. In order to invade Taiwan it’s an amphibious assault line Utah beach, then you must grapplehook your way up a cliffside under western weaponry fire. Chinks Woukd win but the cost would be so great it would not be worth it
>>542476183well is not that trumpo is not trying to bring them back, but cheap slavery is cheap. he would need a more... heavy hand.
>>542479407You're forgetting the most important part. There is no appetite for war from the American public and the American youth would jump at the chance of a revolution, which if China was attacked, would fund and supply to make the American home front another theater of war
>>542478920>America would get hit with a giga pearl harborI wouldn't be too worried about their 1980s military tbqh.
>>542474026its not that we are incapable, its just not really worth it for us do so. We are really no longer in the spreading democracy business, since we won the cold war.
>>542479636keep in mind it would also be in her interest to portray china has holding all the cards in this situation>>542479717it's pretty strategic to keep a meme state like china constantly worrying about a little island, then again how much disconnect with the mainland there really is is up for debate
>>542479717Most Taiwanese are actually pro-unification, especially the younger people, as the US reputation wordwide is plummeting
>>542474026chink propoganda>amellica no make ai>let us take taiwan fab labs>its hopeless anyways
>>542479717As was mentioned before, Taiwan is blocking them from open access to the Pacific, which they want.
>>542479407> China has more to lose than we doWe’re posting in this thread and it’s amazing to me most of these anons haven’t even figured out the hunger games on the horizon. India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other south and south East Asian nations have greatly reduced acreage of staple crops planted. The same story is true in China but at a reduced level. Food inflation and scarcity are coming big time, but especially to South and East Asia (probably Africa to an extent too). The Ukrainians and Russians have essentially cancelled each other out from Black Sea grain exports. The massive populations which were always the secret weapon of these developing adversaries will now become their massive strategic liabilities. Of course we’ll experience food inflation here and we already are, but it will be comparatively much better in North America.
>>542479819>it's pretty strategic to keep a meme state like china constantly worrying about a little islandAnd we still do, because if China thought it was worth it to invade, they really had the capability to roll the dice a long time ago. A lot of the whole Taiwan game is domestic politics, giving a reason for the PLA to develop tech and modernize.
China is pretty dependent on food imports because after farming was privatized in the 80s, many farmers chose to plant cash crops instead of food staples.
>>542479819Dude. I don’t care if she’s an obvious chink sell out or not. None of us are gonna go along with some big gay chink war for globohomo jews idea. Make sense?
Taiwan is fucked or no reason other than that the persian war is fucking up their fuel imports. They're already in a state of mild siege.
>>542479852>as the US reputation wordwide is plummetingthe US reputation is the same as it has been for quite awhile now, all that is happening now is the political class coming to terms that the US does not give a shit about them anymore unless that they have something we want. The places where its "plummuting" are worthless. And Poland has been eagerly sucking our dick to get troops based there.
>>542479958You're not wrong, which is why food prices skyrocketing from the iran war will most likely lead to an escaping war if not all out world war. But you're overestimating the state of America if you think we're leaving this unscathed. Honestly, I feel we're watching a modern bronze age collapse in real time. The upcoming world war + melting glaciers in Antarctica will change the world as we know it
>>542479961China's not very good at that whole projecting power thing. They massively benefit off of the US playing nice with them, and spreading their tendrils. It would make sense they would deeply desire to manipulate western governments to say, deindustrialize and buy their cheap plastic garbage.
>>542480151>China's not very good at that whole projecting power thingOne reason is their geography. They can't really project power much of anywhere. They're surrounded on all sides by mountains, desert, and unfriendly neighbors.
>>542474200The 90's are long goneAll the ships they have are those same ships from 96
>>542479888>aiwan is blocking them from open access to the Pacific, which they want.They only "want" it to give a direction to point in; they will do nothing with it. Chinese statecraft outside its immediate area is pretty much on its back foot after them trying to advance in the last five years or so. Most of their overseas economic projects failed. China under its current form of government is more concerned about getting murked by its own people than doing jack outside of it.
>>542474026Funny how Hillary is more of a leader than trump. She can see he abandoned America, along with everyone elseThe irony
>>542474026Incapable isn't the word, we can and have been doing this for decades. We are moving away from that because Taiwan thinks they have enough leverage over our digital infrastructure to trade with China without consequence, there is no benefit to protecting someone who enriches our enemy to our detriment. No one is going to protect Taiwan if we don't and the point is getting Taiwan to recognize this fact, we hold their lives in our hands. If Taiwan allows China to reabsorb the island, we'll just bomb the hell out of them in asset denial because if China got hold of it we're dead in the water regardless with no alternative.>>542474140She is, which should be expected when women open their mouth hole.
>>542480067The US is also a net food importer
>>542480151>deindustrialize and buy their cheap plastic garbage.they did that, but the costs of that are now apparent, and the Chinese are caught in the double bind that in their effort to grow a middle class, their shit is not so cheap anymore.
>>542474466It's NATO that's losing in Ukraine though
>>542474026Why is she still talking?
>>542480430Especially now with the isreal bio-reactor food. Fun fact isreal uses mold as the bio reactor for fake dairy MoldAs artificial dairy Mold
>>542480382>t. White man hating globohomo jew lefty
Go outside the tourist zones of China and it looks like Africa.
She is not wrong.The numbers are simply not there. China produces weapons and military equipment in numbers way beyond the US. Even Rubio has said so along with a ton of other people with higher positions in the US military.The only way Taiwan at this point could be somewhat safe, is if they got nukes. Big nukes. There are no other ways.The US is without any doubt in a very bad position in the middle east at this moment, and they are going to stay in the middle east for many many years to come and they have to ramp up a lot down there to be able to have some sort of success. They have the option to just leave and tell their citizens they won, but no matter what, they will lose there unless they go full on with everything they have. And if they do that, they will not stand a chance against China when its over.So Hillary is not wrong here. The Iran war was the dumbest fucking mistake the US has done in the past 50 years. They should rather have focused on China instead of Iran and this whole bullshit story about "iran having nukes". But of course, Israel managed to fuck up everything for the US on this matter and they have seriously weakened the US a lot.
>>542480151>projecting powerChina doesn't care about exercising soft power. They don't care if westerners watch Nezha, Wuxia, eat moon cake or wear Manchu fashion. What they do care about is hard power like controlling your manufacturing. Pick up an object and it says Made in China, how is that not exercising a sphere of influence?
>>542480449I don't think they're too worried about building a middle class as much as they're worried about getting rid of their overproduction
>>542480522Oh please, even Hillary can see it. The beautiful irony that Hillary the scumbag Clinton can see that trump ditched the USA. Kys, team Jew
>>542480553Go outside the US state of Maine and it looks like Honduras
>>542480598Well what happens when 1970's western tech doesn't sell like it used to
>>542474026Why was an ex president's trophy wife with no political experience allowed to become the head of the state department?
based hilldawg actually desudeath to democracy
Basically most of China looks like this.
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>>542474026trump has pulled out all the major naval defense for Taiwan too. he doesn't seem to care about Taiwan either but miggers in this thread are really upset for some reason?>>542474140no
>>542480971>Is that Newark?
>>542474200I’m old enough to remember when the West was freaking out about Hong Kong reunification. Hong Kong is still Hong Kong. Nothing really changed except the trannies and foids were told to shut their filthy mouths. It’s better now than ever.
>>542474713>American isolationism is at a local high.lmao
>>542480870>Hillary>trophy wifeBehold, the trophy wife
>>542481600>We don't have to worry about the cat anymore, I took care of it
>>542474026kek this reminds me. the other day, youtube algo was pushing me videos about how Jackie Chan is a disgrace because he doesnt want to engage the Chinese army in single combat over the "sovereignty" of singapore
>>542475248You are from malaysia
>>542474746>why would the usa give a shit if their ideological enemies control cuba
>>542481960Don't do it hilldawg you have so much to live for, like your beautiful daughter you had with bill
>>542481600>he ain't know 'bout dat grippy
>>542482130and the next season of Pokémon
China doesn't need to win. They just need to show they offer a better future than jewcum guzzling homosexual child fuckers.
>People seriously think that's HillaryBros...The bitch died by 2017 at the latest. It's been almost 10 years, or more, since Hillary Clinton drew breath and walked the Earth. She's fucking dead, guys. Stop being such suckers.
>>542474026why is this hideous cunt allowed to comment on anything? shes like AOC that has dozens of associates killed
>>542482242I can tank it... I can tank it...
>>542474313That's not really an argument against her position. She's not saying that Taiwan should want to get absorbed by China, she's saying that Taiwan should start getting ready for that to happen because they won't have a choice in the matter. What Taiwan would prefer is immaterial in this scenario.And no we're not sending them nuclear weapons, nor are we going to use them. This is the Obama Standard; China cares more about Taiwan than we do. We're not going to take those risks to defend a place we have no real vital interest in. We would probably use nukes to defend Canada or maybe even Mexico, but not Taiwan.
>>542482503In the first two years of the Clinton Adminstration they used her as a co-president and she was disliked by literally everyone except some boss bitch feminists that she was quietly binned after the 94 midterm debacle.
>>542482124USA hasn't cared about Cuba being an ally of his enemies since the missile crisis and specially since the Soviet Union disappeared. If not tell me why they haven't tried to take it before?
>>542482521Playing incompetent is so exhausting.
>>542474645Normandy Beach was attached to a mainland that couldn't be encircled. Taiwan's coastline is not.
>>542482725>since the missile crisisyou mean since the Soviet Union dissolved in the 1990s. economic incentives were mostly used until recently Trump doctrine of speaking loudly and carrying a little stick
