Ramps. Lubrication. Torque. That is really all there is to it Id imagine. A waste of time when a simple mud wall works.
Peruvians are the superior people of this planet
Nobody built them they are background infrastructure of the simulationlike the Sistine Chapel and the Pyramids
>>542496728How could you possibly think that they built these? You’re moronic. The one pictured to the left weighs 200 tons
Apparently they all stood around and chanted a specific vibration to make it weightless
>>542496755I’m starting to think the same thing or that Aliens have a technology that turns physical matter into marshmallow basically.
They even said they didn't do it, it was before them. And you just know they'd love to take credit for it.
>>542496786>200 tonsWith enough lubrication and torque you can move something that weighs 5000 tons for 5000 miles in 500 days.
>>542496891I’m ignoring you now
>>542496859I know the aliens and they admit it - not the marshmallow part but that they designed the simulation
>>542496929>he cant into physicskek
>>542496989Big Tech that you?>>542496996Rage bot
>>542496996I'm a physicist.How do you modify a Ricci Tensor in the Great Pyramid?
>>542496662That’s clearly a natural geological formation.
>>542496996You think physiques is having enough lubrication!?
>>542497036It's me, big Tech
>>542497036It is okay if your education system failed you and you cannot understand the simple physical mechanics of moving large and heavy objects.>>542497074I dont know what that is because im not a physicist. Maybe you should ask your professor that if you cant do it or just buy your degree like the rest of your kind.
>>542496662>
>>542497074Ever seen Brien Foerster’s stuff?https://youtu.be/FWpXj_R5xpc
it was the vagiants
>>542496662watch ancient aliens debunked
Ropes and a lot of elbow grease
>>542497145Yes pretty much. With enough lube, you can slide anything anywhere you want.
>>542497178
>>542497288How did they stack them?
>>542497288Damn I didn't think of this. I suppose if you can carve out a tall slab of rock you could easily traverse 10 miles of flat plain in a day.
>>542497316Ramps are exceedingly easy to build, anon. Just pile up some dirt. What is it that you don't get?
>>542497298>
>>542497316Vertically.
>>542497149What was your last stream about?
>>542497187No I haven't seen it before - I have been inside the Great Pyramid though.Do you know what Vint Cerf's middle name is?
>>542497074Has nothing to do with building structures, fucking nerd
>>542497316Lube, aren't you paying attention?
>>542497426It does if you want to solve the back reaction problem for infinite conductance though doesn't it?
>>542496662Laser beams reflected from a pyramid. Using the suns energy concentrated into a fine point after being reflected by 1000 floating space pyramids coated with silver
When you have around 750-2000 people chanting together, it creates a frequency that would look like magic to us. So imagine 10.000 slaves doing it. It was tested in the 70s and I remember reading reports and seeing pictures on it. It has been erased from any records for a while now. Can't find it anymore
>>542497485They didn't need to, you overeducated mental midget.
>>542497396I don't make streams I thought you were calling me the King of Silicon Valley.
When you have little more to do then feed yourself and clothe yourself to do in a lifetime .. You can perform miracles and do a lot of stuff.Why do you think the jew want you occupied as soon as possible (school) until your adult years (work)?To keep you busy so you don't think outside the box when ((society)) has crafted you a rat maze to traverse until you fall over and die. Keep you busy with a empty sense of accomplishment to solving a problem for shekelstein's box factory.Remember how amazing (for most of us) your childhood were? I mean outside of school things. That you most likely by 90% don't even need today, how free you felt?They took that from you so you could kick out boxes until you die instead.We traded our freedom for fiat currency and fake promises for a future we'll never see.Back in ye' olden days, you had so much free time that only your will was the limitations on how far you could go.Now they break that will so you sleep away your weekends and hustle in the week for pennies.Fuck life!
for context this is the equivalent of their space program
>>542497498Even still to carve basalt with bronze tools (which was even a rare commodity back then) would be impossible.
>>542496662It's not as hard as you would imagine, with enough labor, any weight can be lifted, as for the seemingly perfect interlocking stones with very little cracks, you can make those by rubbing two similar stones against each other, they will eventually flatten, the softer the rock, the better and the faster the result. Again this isn't a process that takes a few minutes, a rock that big can easily take a weeks to shape.
>>542497530Literally why the pyramids exist
>>542496891This. I have experience with this anon's mom.
>>542496891Thats what your mother told me.
>>542497632>>542497633>Time of post
4 foot ancient pervuain subhumans are smarter than the combined intellect of the top educated minds of present day
>>542497614>they wuz kangs
>>542496662
>>542496859>I’m starting to thinkNo you aren't
>>542497559>>542497605All of their time would have been about gathering food and cooking it. You guys are coping normies. It’s insanely obvious that an advanced race built them. You can even see where the natives made repairs and there is absolutely no comparison to the Megaliths.
>>542496662not alien. Not peruvian. Just a different cycle of civilization.It will come around again. Electricity is not the greatest phase. Without it, many far more advance things were done. Advanced and techy don't have to be synonymous.
>>542497725>All of their time would have been about gathering food and cooking it.You do know that they have the best crops in the world right? They were drowning in excess calories and had no diseases to deal with while the old world was racked daily by smallpox, plagues, steppe invasions and shitty crops like barley and wheat.
>>542496662Egyptians did whole festivals involving moving big ass statues from one temple to another and back just for the celebration of it. Ancient people had fuck all to do with most of their time. The mind wasn't as introverted as it is today. Back then stacking blocks said this is me and this is us. It was a flex on a world that only understood the flex.
>>542497632>>542497633>>542497668Lets be frens!
>>542497725>All of their time would have been about gathering food and cooking it.>dude how do civilizations work and shit?
>>542496662They found an abandoned Alkesh and used the rings obviously.
>>542497814>>542497809Plus their societies were run by people worshipped as gods who could command hundreds or thousands or slaves to just labor on whatever whim came into their head.
>>542497725They were so advanced they forgot to leave a note or any trace at all. You're the one coping. All is this makes sense when you understand the mind. You don't need aliens or magic or whatever. Only honesty.
So many dumbasses ITT that are programmed to think we’re alone in the universe. Most likely christcucks. I don’t even think if you gave present day Peruvians modern day construction tech they would be able to build these structures.
It's limestone you low IQ retards. They soaked the rocks in water then shaped them you stupid you know what word."Yes, soaking or wetting limestone makes it easier to carve because the moisture increases the stone's malleability and helps reveal its natural bed lines."
>>542497952The note they left was the megalithic structures themselves. Non retards get it.
You can lead a Horse to Waterbut you can't make it drinkIf you get my drift
>>542498023Basalt
>>542497999You're just stupid and fantastical. Separation of thousands of years doesn't equal aliens automatically. There's zero proof or evidence of such. You just don't wanna cope with the fact that reality is much more boring and lame than all the pretty shit you've read on the internet.
>>542496662Those were built by Nephilim, you stupid cunt
>>542497999>capital is over 1,000 square miles of modern structures>"hurr durr I don't think they can move some big rocks"
>>542498056Ok wise guy. Read this. Tell me what it says. It wasnt written by aliens.
>>542498023Granite BabeIt needs to be Radio-Active to create the Lithogate
>>542496786They weren't lazy faggots like you zoomers.
>>542497328>Damn I didn't think of this. I suppose if you can carve out a tall slab of rock you could easily traverse 10 miles of flat plain in a day.Mostly right, but just not "easily." Thing is human life was extremely cheap and nobody gave a shit if a few slaves died every day doing so.
>>542498131SECURE THE BAG
>>542498131Those were carved onto them after they were found by the dynastic egyptians
How did they get these block up onto Machy Pichu? Some of them weighing 100 tons?
>>542497371the flintstones had this figured out. btw is that a jewish name? he does have the schnozz
>>542498214Do you see those bags at the top?You know the Pine Cone at the Vatican?
>>542498214You literally don't know anything do you? You just say stuff. Egypt made no mention of Göbekli. The bible does in Noah's ark. We spoke symbols before words. I accept your concession if you can't read the pillar. That's ok. It's a lost language.
>>542498278i'm gonna fuck barney's wife
>>542496786>>542498274the exact same way the egyptians did it, the only way to do it. sled, prepared track, ropes, and hundreds of people. it's really not the complicated. unless you're a dumb schizo
>>542496662They had a class of artisans and engineers that weren't wasting their time on the internet.
>>542498299Of course I know
>>542498299They literally can’t see out of the paradigm that they were programmed with.
>>542498131Hmm, across the top I see sunsets/sunrises with animal figures beside them and then a few major animal figures below that.I'd have to guess that this is marking off solstices/equinoxes by showing the animals locally associated with the constellations visible at sunset/sunrise on those dates and the larger depiction below the three is denoting the particular one of importance to this monument, which is why it shows multiple animals because for this one it is showing more constellations to make the distinction clearer.So it's a date marker?
>>542498398>Claims to know>Knows nothing Masons don't even know dude
>>542496786>The stones were moved by teams of men pulling with ropes, as shown in the drawings of chronicler Felipe Guaman Poma de Ayala.[30] Cieza De Leon also writes "4000 of them quarried and cut the stones; 6000 hauled them with great cables of leather and hemp."[23] Similar ropes used on Incan suspension bridges were made with ichu grass. Small ropes of these materials have been shown to support a load of 4000lbs, and larger ropes may have been able to hold up to 50,000lbs.[31] The stones were rolled to their positions using wooden beams on earth ramps. Unfinished chullpa at Cutimbo and Sillustani still have stone ramps in place, and a large earthen ramp can be seen leading from the quarry up to Ollantaytambo's Wall of the Six Monoliths.[7] Father Cobo saw Incan builders using a similar ramp during the construction of the Cusco Cathedral.[29]6000 peeps can pull 200tons no probs.
>>542498474Even the peruvians themselves say they didn’t build them.
>>542496748>Peruvians are the superior people of this planet
>>542498398ah, a dumb schizo then, got itthread disregarded
>>542496662the mortar they used was slightly acidic and over time shaped the stones so they interlocked.https://www.academia.edu/37497925/On_the_reddish_glittery_mud_the_Inca_used_for_perfecting_their_stone_masonry
>>542498445Do you think Aaron was a High Priest of Osiris?
>>542498538Well duh, post colonial south americans are a distinct racial group from pre-colonial, they had the misfortune of being colonized by super rapey spain/portugal which is like 80+% nafri, and on top of that the caribbean was a hotspot for jewish slave trade so they got nigger in there too, modern south americans are supremely mutted, they have no claim to pre-colonial south american culture really.Did you think places like haiti and jamaica were always black?
>>542496662Do you retards ever wonder why they only did shit with rocks? Why wouldn't aliens use more advanced building materials or designs? Why is it always stacked rocks? Why is it always something a shitload of slaves could do with sleds and leverage?
Honey, I shrunk the kids!!
>>542498618How did they stack 100 ton blocks? How did they get them to interlock so perfectly that you can’t fit a hair in between them? How did they get 100 ton stone up onto Machu Pichu. You would have tk be coping to say the natives built these things. They even say themselves that they did not build them and that their Gods did.
>>542498663>They got mutted broThe natives are still there, when the spanish came many of them dropped all their shit and ran into the forest for a few hundred years. There are still a lot of pure-blooded natives and they're nothing special.
>>542497605tjis. people forget they had as much time as they wanted. they didn't have to work for jews back than
Aliens
Fucking magnets man. How do they work?
>>542496662whitebois forever btfo by 4 foot indios lmao shouldn’t you be catching the black plague?
>>542498538they could be referring to older pre-Inca structures, Machu Picchu is 500yo.
>>542498772They had to work gathering and hunting their food for most of the day this is a flat out lie.>>542498797Remember when the Spanish arrived they thought it was their Gods.
>>542497371>They created elaborate rolling log schemes to move giant rocks hundreds of miles>They didn't make a wheelbarrel>Or figure out how to make humans pull a wagonThis is very strange, especially since their many empires would have benefited heavily from more efficient means of sending tribute.
>>542498852>Machu Picchu is 500yo.
>>542498877They didn’t even discover the wheel for transportation
>>542498692You can only see it as rock because you can't see the tesseract Why did Michaelangelo make David a Giant? Ever think about that?
>>542496662Some testing for the pyramids has shown that teams of hundreds of people can actually pull very heavy objects with a well prepared surface to drag the stones on
>>542498720>How did they stack 100 ton blocks?leverage>How did they get them to interlock so perfectly that you can’t fit a hair in between them?I literally just explained it, I posted a whitepaper ffs.>How did they get 100 ton stone up onto Machu Pichu.effort and leverage.>You would have tk be coping to say the natives built these things. They even say themselves that they did not build them and that their Gods did.what exactly is your agenda?
>>542499011Nonsense. I don’t have an agenda you do. It’s obvious that these savages could not have made these megalithic structures. I also will say the dynastic Egyptians did not build the pyramids. They were already there.
>>542498772This is true. Ignoring whatever else is said in the thread ancient people had tons of free time.Modern slaves just can't understand how life was in the past>Go out and do your gay little farming for the day>Takes like a couple hours>14 hours of the day left to NEET around doing whateverClearing fields and making irrigation systems takes a lot of time, but they did all that and they had the rest of the day to fuck around and do whatever. When you don't have to worry about a mortgage or taxes or working a 9-5 to boost (((economic numbers))) you just do subsistence AG and then socialize and do cool shit the rest of the day.
>>542498445Well? >>542498441
>>542498867> They had to work gathering and hunting their food for most of the day this is a flat out lie.Bullshit you nigger. They did necessities of life stuff (hunting and gathering food) 2-3 days out of the week. The rest of the time was dedicated to whatever. Various arts, crafting, trade, socializing and religious activities. Most of these cultures didn’t have a jewish obsession with time in the first place. They found the idea of staying busy constantly for no reason to be abhorrent in the first place.
>>542499142>Ignoring whatever else is said in the thread ancient people had tons of free time.No they didn’t. Almost all of their time was centered around hunting and harvesting food. Even in medieval Europe this was the case for the average person.
>>542496662really good loin cloth
>>542497288Missing the legs .
>>542496662Ayyy lmao
>>542499130who gives a shit who made them?Did you even read the whitepaper?
>>542499130Do you know what Roswell means?
>>542496662The nephilem built it as they did most ancient structures. Normal humans took them over after the flood.
>>542499218It simply wasn't. You can post this as much as you want, it wasn't.Best estimates show 30% of medieval budgets went to food.For a climate with no real winters like central america this would be way lower - even though many times they did starve due to retarded farming practices that depleted the soil.Food was another form of leisure and additional profit, they didn't actually need to make these fancy foods with all these different and inefficient ingredients, they did it because in the past you had a limited number of things to do for fun and preparing food and trading it with others for new food was a source of said fun.
>>542497590Rope, sand, water, fren.
>>542499343How many wings do Cherubim have?
>>542499218> Almost all of their time was centered around hunting and harvesting food. Even in medieval Europe this was the case for the average person.You lying sack of shit. The Catholic Church has all those feast days and holidays for a reason. They felt it was Christian to let the peasants have various days of rest and holidays to religiously reflect, go figure. This slaving away constantly idea is a relatively new one and based in debt and scarcity.
>>542496929lolyou can't imagine basic cranes levers rollers ectinfinite trees infinite time and your dumbass tribe would have no wall lolwell i say tribe, generally the really big projects were proto farm lords keeping workers busy out of season
>>542499356The average peasant worked 6 days a week from sun up to nearly sun down you brown shitskin fuck. Brown jungle savages did not build these structures and they even admit this is the case.
>>542499425>you can't imagine basic cranes levers rollers ectDidn’t even invent the wheel, brownoid.
>>542499434Woah hold your horses What's the problem here?Let's go back to the interesting image you posted of the Osiris PostI asked you if Aaron was a Priest of Osiris or not
I can't believe how dumb ancient alien retards are. You guys seriously see some fucking stones and go "WHOA HOW DID STONE GET THAT WAY?!" They're fucking rocks, retard. They're heavy, and yet you can move and manipulate them without any technology at all, it's been demonstrated over and over again countless times the ways ancient people could move and lift very heavy stones, and cut and shape them to size, the pyramids, this, whatever they were able to do it with the tools they had available. >DA ANSHIUNT AYYLIUMS CAME TO DA ERF AND THEY UH MOVED SOME STONES ON TOP OF OTHER STONES AND STUFF WHOA HOW THIS HAPPEN ONLY ALLIUM DO DIS!Just because you're too dumb to do some simple research and figure out what archeologists that study this shit for a living say doesn't mean we don't fucking know retard, it means YOU don't know because you are a literal mouthbreathing retard.
>>542499406Not to mention you literally could not forage for 5 hours a day or whatever, a few days of that would just deplete the area around you when you're talking civilization-scale. There's not enough food density for such an activity in the wild.And there's certainly not enough animals, which peasants couldn't even hunt anyway.So that only leaves AG + a little seasonal foraging, and that's not a 16 hour a day thing.>>542499434>Prepare field>Plant seed>Wait for seeds to growWhat the fuck were they doing in said fields for 10 hours a day while waiting the 60-90 days for said crops to grow to maturity? Real life isn't minecraft, it takes months to harvest anything and there are massive idle periods on any farm.
>>542499356> Food was another form of leisure and additional profit, they didn't actually need to make these fancy foods with all these different and inefficient ingredients, they did it because in the past you had a limited number of things to do for fun and preparing food and trading it with others for new food was a source of said fun.Correct. It was an aspect of trade and socialization. This notion of people being cut off and isolated to cook at eat alone was a lot less common too. Throughout history there have been a lot more socialized meal and food setups as a part of life. Cooking and eating alone is a modern thing in the extreme. It’s one of the ways they achieved this social atomization in the first place. Destroying eating together.
>>542496662induction
I swear this entire board os just rage bots
>>542496728This. There are videos done by anthropologists and engineers showing how they did it. The rocks basically get rolled into position, and a curved stick is used as a sort of transfer-stencil to shape the edge of the rock before it's slid into position. Then, on to the next rock. It's only mysterious if you want to see it as mysterious, which many people do. Modern people hate themselves and their modern world. They think the ancient past is idyllic somehow, and not fraught with violence and infection.
>>542499434>spaniard nafris sail up to your city>ask "did you build this pyramid?">you tell them that no, you did not build it, it was there before you were born>everyone asked gives the same answer
>>542499475aye because they'd no need of it, sleds and rollers for the heavy shit is alot easier than a cart anyway fuckton easier to lash a rock and slide it up a track of wet logs than it is to built a cart that could carry it
>>542499608Perivians say they didn’t build it today, that it was built by their gods
>>542499402I looked it up, 4.
>>542499541The meme that life was extremely awful and constant suffering must be repeated endlessly because it makes our modern predicament seem tolerable perhaps.
>>542499635peruvians today are spaniard/portuguese/nigger mutts
they just smushed them down real hard, ever had a pillow retard?
>>542497288Well, you can tell by the way I use my walkI'm a woman's man no time to talk
>>542499663Little savages didn’t piece together perfectly shaped 100-200 ton block and you know it.
>>542498023>they melted the rocks broholy fucking brainlet
>>542496786Probably formed stones (from paste.) I forget the name of the guy who's remade a bunch of these sites/constructions with a simple paste that would be easy to make even in Ancient times. Was likely known by older peoples too because you find the exact same chemical compositions in many of these 'stone' constructions.
>>542499645Exactly, four.How many wings does the Pine Cone Annunaki have?
>>542499593>No argument for extremely basic things like "what is the farm worker doing after he's planted the seed or harvested the field">It's a rage bot brosMy uncle owns a fruit farm that tries to have a consistent harvest throughout the year. Even with this there are massive empty periods in the year where there's basically no work to do. You aren't a farmer and have never farmed. Livestock is pretty much the only thing that gives you consistent work year-round and the vast majority of ancient people didn't have massive livestock herds.You can't answer extremely basic questions like this, what did the farmer do when the fields were planted? What did he do after the harvest?
>>542499770They’re made from basalt but nice cope
Fuck off back to /x/ with your ancient alien bullshit.
>>542499804>Even with this there are massive empty periods in the year where there's basically no work to doIn south America? Dummy
>>542499738I'm not thousands of years old.
>>542499857
>>542498131I read ayylmao. It says "The Dark Ones bad, the Large Nose Ones worse."Idk what it means. The centaur scorpion could mean "Kill them all" or "let them fuck your children". It's based on context and the portion of rock is missing
>>542499602> and not fraught with violence and infection.Those things are products of civilization and symptoms of it. In less complex societies people are traveling and interact across distances a lot less so naturally there’s a lot less violence and disease. Societies with smaller populations which are less complex are far more peaceful. There are occasional fights and minor skirmishes but small populations simply don’t permit regular brutal violence. Why do you think counting coup was a thing in the American west and frontier among the native peoples? The native Americans of today still don’t give a fuck about the concept of time like we do. Being strict time autists is a feature of Germanic societies to be honest. How the hell can you just assume all of humanity was slaving away constantly? Those Germanic societies were largely the ones who did that, which is why they built such terrifically powerful societies in the first place. Constant work, violence and disease are aspects of high population and complex societies.
>>542498720Same kind of stories they will tell here when the only thing left are niggers
>>542499814I don't know this particular case and I couldn't find the akshual writer on the topic but geopolymers looks like a similar enough argument. I thought it was fairly convincing desu
>>542500120They’re made from basalt or volcanic rock which would have to have been excavated from the ground.
>>542500120I found him: Marcell Foti and 'Natron Theory'
>>542500120theyre geopolymers made of poop and sand and probably quicklime.
>>542496786It’s really not as impressive as you think it is. It’s literally Stone Age shit.
>>542499857You have to wait for the crops to grow. They don't grow instantly like in minecraft if you put bonemeal on them.If they have truly year-round farm work they're not starving and they're not working 10 hour days year round, you're retarded.
>>542500241>>542500241>>542500278They’re made from basalt
>>542500363They did not build the structures I showed
its called stone air elevationwe used to ride those thingsthey probably rode them through the jungle
>>542500419I'm not even talking about that I'm talking about your retarded statement that ancient people and medieval people were working 10 hour days.Stay in your lane and don't spread jewish narratives.
>>542500470Go worship Jewsus, NPC
This thread has the most brain dead takes from people who have no idea about large weights and mass.I've moved 15t rocks around with a 45t excavator and you would have zero chance of moving that around with timber. It's too heavy and too solid while being surprisingly small, it will just grind timber straight into the ground, if you tried to use rollers it would annihilate them into splinters instantly, leverage without metallurgy is a joke. And you're talking about 200t.
>>542500541>I've moved 15t rocks around with a 45t excavatorFucking NPC looooool
>>542500541Geopolymer/Natron idea is that you just take a bucket and pour the stone in place. You can try it yourself at home (I did not because I'm lazy and not that interested.) Pretty much makes the subject boring to some though.
>>542500522Yeah nothing at all here, just spreading jewish narratives.Don't talk about medieval europe or ancient people's working habits, nobody in history was working 10 hour days except literal slaves, and even they weren't except for one very specific time period.
>>542499814>The massive interlocking stone walls of Sacsayhuamán are made from three main types of locally quarried rocks: >Limestone: The colossal, zigzagging megalithic blocks making up the outer defensive walls seen in the image are primarily Yucay limestone. This stone was quarried relatively close to the site.>Andesite: This dark, dense volcanic rock was used primarily for the foundations, inner buildings, and royal towers. It was hauled from quarries further away, such as Rumicolca (about 32–35 km away).>Diorite: A hard igneous rock that was utilized for some of the sturdy structural sections and outer walls.not basalt exclusively
>>542500592What were the giant buckets made of that made perfectly fitting 100-200 ton puzzle pieces that were then stacked on top of eachother?
>>542499804my uncle works at nintendo, and he told me that you are a faggot.is that true??
>>542500629How did a civilization that did not invent the wheel create these structures?
>>542496818That's some Vedic Hindu shit I wonder if Hindus made it out there, they were sailing thousands of years ago
The idea that ancient humans would expend millions of tons of food and fresh water to feed and hydrate workers using rudimentary tools and machinery to make monuments for just their gods/ancestors is blatantly retarded. Think about the food energy in a loaf of bread and calculate how much force can be generated in a human body with that energy.
>>542497289gay
>>542500701why would a civilization that can teleport shit or make it levitate need to invent wheels? why are you so obsessed with wheels?
>>542500701>The Incas managed to quarry, transport, and assemble the massive stone blocks of Sacsayhuamán through extraordinary labor organization, simple mechanical advantage, and skilled stone-hammer craftsmanship1000s of brown manlet cucks
>>542500844Why can’t they do it today?
>>542500878we already invented the wheel, retard
>>542500904You failed the test replicant
>>542498357Gross anon
>>542496662Pully systems. The seemingly flawless fit is a binding caused by centuries of rain & elemental sedimintation/settling. It's the gypsy niggers conning you blithering retards into believing in ancient alien horseshit.
>>542496662>believes mainstream historyHole fucking kek!https://archive.org/details/stolen-history-lifting-the-veil-of-deception-part-1-introduction
>>542500983and you didn't answer my question. why are you so obsessed with wheels? why anyone building those need to invent a wheel before building anything? do aliens need wheels in space too? do they need to invent a wheel before they can build a spaceship? do I need to invent the wheel before plowing your mom?
>>542501185>It's the gypsy niggers conning you blithering retards into believing in ancient alien horseshit.Hello kike
>>542501220>why anyone building those need to invent a wheel before building anything?
>>542500661Bucket material? I don't know. But you don't need to fit liquid, it fits to the vessel and then you pour it out however you want it to set. You will always overpour so there will be excess that you can pattern for aesthetics.
>>542501185That's just ridiculous, a pully system would have to be the size of the Eiffel tower to have that kind of weight exerted on it.And centuries of rain and weather creates erosion, it doesn't "flawlessly bind rocks together"...
>>542501292>Bucket material? I don't know.Bye
>>542496662They just stood on each other's shoulders
>>54249666212' diameter magnifying glasses.Sunlight.Buckets.Molds.Lil niggas would use the sun's rays through the magnifying glass and melt the stone, then pour the molten stone into molds. The more you know, nigga.
>>542501386They didn’t discover the wheel but they had magnifying glasses?
>>542501386did they make the buckets out of minimizing glass?
>>542501445The wheel is genuinely difficult desu.
>>542501333>>542501453Can you believe that people this retarded walk around us every day? Its scary
>>542501517Consider the effort it would take to make a wheel with brute force (of any strength/resilience.) Sanding also sucks.
>>542501008the cartoon one nigga damnwhy'd they do her like that in the movie
>>542501445why do they need fucking wheels to invent magnifying glasses? are you fucking retarded? does Big Wheel pay you to shill wheels on here?
>>542500787Not sure if sarcasm or not. The amount of chemical energy in food is massive. What we colloquially call calories in realtion to food aren't actually calories, they're kcals, kilocalories. A single "calorie" has enough chemical energy to bring a liter of water from zero to boiling. It's 4184 jules of energy. If it was perfectly harnesses, that amount of energy could launch a brick hundred of feet into the air. Our bodies aren't perfectly efficient and a lot of chemical energy is burned just staying alive and the mechanics of our bones and muscles introduce more inefficiency but the amount of energy in an entire loaf of bread is absolutely enormous.
>>542501534>walkwhy do we need to walk we invented the wheel!
>>542501517>>542501568>>542501598Paid jeets and brownoids to rage the thread to bump limit
>>542496662I propose the hypothesis that these formations were initially fabric containers filled with sand to facilitate efficient transport. Over time, the organic material degraded, while the sand underwent a lithification process. Supporting evidence for this theory includes the deliberate, masonry-like alignment and precise interlocking of the blocks, as well as documented instances of World War II-era sandbags undergoing petrification within a span of seventy years. Extrapolating this process across several millennia suggests a potential mechanism for the creation of these structures during periods of unrecorded history.
>>542501534You don't even have a job nigger.I bet you're heading towards being 200t yourself
This is the dumbest fucking thread. You browns need to fuck off this board.
>>542501677You’re absolutely retarded. Its every other theory except aliens for you box brained NPCs. Why can’t it be aliens?
>>542496662It's wrong for mediocre mental abilities populous to presume that there weren't superior societies.India mere 5k years ago was populated with Aryan peoples, none are left now due to fertile monkeys- slaves- savages eventually out breeding them and from history records .There were ancient superior people in Greece, that were super intelligent and advanced but got (fucked (warred, bred out etc) by shitskins eventually) , that travelled the world, build somewhat similar structures too."Colour me surprised" in South Americas, both or either sailors have build equal or near equal technologically complex structures, but were unable to come back, due to the way trade currents and winds operate in the band of South 70° to 70° North.the South American civilisation was (is) very much El-Niño dependent and it have taken a mere 100 years or so to decline, so savages Mayan monkeys took over, who eventually got taken over by 5ft tall monkeys, by what it's being presumed it was build... You aren't clever in asking questions, without being of an ability to comprehend the way civilisations rose and fallen throughout thousands of years of evolution.
>>542501677that's not a bad idea at all
>>542501677watch out the other retard is gonna ask how they invented containers without wheels
>>542501653Try making a wheel by hand and you'll see what I mean desu
>>542501749why would aliens invent wheels they fly through space and shit they don't need wheels and according to you they can't build anything without inventing the wheel
>>542501677Most possible answer so far, but weren't the rocks matched to be the same Basalt that was mined locally?Surely if it was some kind of sandbag it wouldn't be a match
>>542501445>>542501453https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMAtkjy_YK4
>>542498877Wheels were and still are an extremely disadvantageous in the Andes terrain, furthermore there were no draft animals to pull carts. The Inca in the sierra of Cuzco would eat fresh coastal fish through nonstop Chasqui runners.
>>542501873the quarry site was near construction>>542501909>3.5 hour vidkys nigger. the the qrd
>>542496662They had an ancient concrete receipe, just that instead of concrete it made stone
>>542499779Shit the fuck up baloney tits.
>How did 4-foot tallThey didn't. The people that built those as well as the rest of the "mysterious" relics on earth were White. They went extinct for the exact same reason the White people today are disappearing. They didn't want to believe a "jewish desert religion", so they made themselves repulsive to their Creator, and He abandoned them. Race-mixing destroys every civilization that has every existed, and the people apparently never learn.
>>542502271>We Wuz PeruviansAmerica is a Madhouse
>>542501982Pre monkey you, Pre monkey Incas structure build civilazation, that had a lot common with Aryan cultures
>>542501982Curious.Ive known a few peruvians and you have a very distinctive look, almost east asian.
>How did 4 foot tall peruvian savages in loon cloths build these structures? potatoes, corn, and quinoa. they just needed a lot of guys, who need a lot of caloriesbasic civilization is not impressive or inherently white. It just comes with the excess calories. If Romans had potatoes, they would have probably made it to space lol
>>542501982>There are no flat enough places in the whole country brolarp. I've heard this like 100 times and it's never true even in the most mountainous places. A wheeled cart still moves way more produce over a mountain than some runner does.
>>542502312Its clear the new arrivals only squatted in the ruins and used patchwork cobblestone to shore up some of the damage over time.
>>542502328>have a very distinctive lookYes we do>almost east asianNo.
>>542502304Speak for yourself, duhngheep. I know Canadians are White, as are Americans. You will never be Canadian. Even after 200 years your insistence>we are Canadianwill be as false as it is today.
>>542502355They had Llamas.Same as the Arabs didn't use wheels when they can just have a Camel train.Llamas on the mountains, and rivers and canals on the flat.
>>542502440And the same is true of the "Peruvians", the "Egyptians", the "Persians" and probably even the "Indians"
>>542502525White-GOD, just go to France and speak English and see how it goes for (You)
>>542496662>Not /pol/ post>48 post by this IDKill yourself retarded faggot
>>542502440Its hard to place. But you are descended from the hunter gatherers that crossed the bering straight when It was iced over. There is a huge possibility you had influence from east asian cultures by accidental contact.TLDR you look more ching chongy than any others and I kinda recognize that shit cause im a fingolian.
>>542502355It's true of the Andes, the majority of the flat places were coastal sands and the Amazon jungle.Yes... a wheeled cart can carry more than a person but you're only considering one variable - capacity, what about the speed, the incline of the terrain, the staircase nature of the Qhapaq Ñan, deep gorges connected through rope suspension bridges?You do know all our produce came from mountains slopes transformed into andenes? Andeans are a mountain race.
>>542498274>>542496786>>542496662They piled small rocks as ramps and then pushed the big rock with wood and ropes.>>542498538Citation needed. And no,some grifter on the ancient aliens show does not count. If you actually go to the Sillustani ruins, you can even see unfinished examples of construction with such huge rocks in different states of completion.
>>542496662I could lift a locomotive if I was in a loon clout. WTF are you on about?
>>542496662They used the sun to melt stone
>>542502854>Roll produce down a mountain slope>Use a cart to move produce while harvesting itCarts are still useful for all of this. Two guys with a wagon vs carrying a huge amount of baskets.
>>542503010Alright where does the cart come into play here? We transported things the way ants because it was the path of least resistance and logistically it was all masterfully organized, why fix what wasn't broken.
the peruvian agenda, its callender a
>>542503010>push full wagon back up mountainvs>just as many slaves carrying it up>>542503263>invent wheel>try it out>rolls down, never to be seen again>invent wheel>try it out>rolls down, never to be seen again>give up
>>542496748They have some pretty cool insects but the people are kind of retarded
>>542503263>Roll cart on the obviously flat parts of this>Make slope downward for it at the end>Don't have to have multiple baskets or pick them up and walk them up or downI see flat areas here.Manual grape pickers will have grape lugs, which are then loaded onto carts, and the carts are wheeled around. This is doable on a slope like this easily with a simple rope system and sloped path. It takes one (one) singular road and lets you move a whole lot of stuff instead of lugging it literally up and down a mountain.>Carrying all that shit up and down a mountain is more efficient though!I just went grape picking, on no terrain is lugging those things around with no wheels efficient.>>542503530Clearly they lacked basic understanding of many simple principles. This is one of those things where a rope and wagon would be 100x more efficient.Yeah, it's just that they gave up after seeing that it took a couple brain cells.
>>542496662A primitive culture that doesn't have a lot of things discovered yet will tend to hyperfocus on the little things they do know. Knowledgeable people from this period in history could give you a ten thousand page thesis on every detail about rocks and ropes. The construction looks complex because modern people don't know shit about rocks and have too many other things that need to be learnt to deal with that.
>>542503679Notice that it needs just ONE use case, every time it's>Bro it doesn't work in this one extremely specific circumstance>No, they couldn't just use it in another way, it had to be done this way>Carrying things on your back for miles is the best way to transport at the end of the day, it's perfect>Gigantic wall of excuses as to why there's not a single flat area in your countryWheelcels are honestly pathetic.>>542503856>Rocks and ropesIf they knew so much about either of these they would have the wheel, they knew how to make "roller logs" to roll these 200 ton rocks several miles over mountains but they couldn't engineer a wagon?Rocks and ropes? Oh, can I see their returning carts system then that they could use to travel to the top and bottom of mountains, or do we not get to see any great rocks and ropes inventions (the likes of which europe had centuries ago)
>>542503679>The Incas constructed large, packed earthen ramps to pull the stones up the steep mountain slopes. They laid smooth river cobblestones, wooden beams, or rollers underneath the blocks to minimize friction.think of the rollers as wagonless mini wheels retard
zap the stone full of extra electrons and they become shapable like playdoh and they float like balloonsedward leedskalnin knows
>>542503996These people... built all these ramps and made all this tech to move gigantic rocks from one place to another but they never thought of a wheel that they can put on a wagon? They never used these techniques for anything actually useful?This is the thing, I'm thinking of that and you're being an NPC. They have these special roads and mini-wheels and are masters of rope and stone, but they can't make a wagon and use it to transport goods or smaller stones?It doesn't add up.
>>542503679Mate, the flat areas you see there were where the crops were grown, that particular Andenes is no longer operational.
>>542496662Yakube wiped out multiple civilizationsWhat's happening in Europe is just karmic justice
>>542504113>Pick crop while harvesting>The crop is no longer there in the way and you push your cart along????
>>542503967>If they knew so much about either of these they would have the wheelThis is a common point people bring up, but again modern people also don't know shit about wheels either. All ancient civilizations had wheels and understood the concept of wheels. The reason these cultures rarely used them for moving heavy loads is that wheels only function when the surface beneath them is optimized for handling the concentrated force at the contact point. Which means you need to use steel rails like a train or an extremely smooth hard surface to roll on since pneumatized tires didn't exist. In order to function on soft bare ground you need to make the wheels giant like the ones used on horse drawn carriages and even then it requires complex construction which isn't practical. This is why moving by sleds or back-and-forth rocking was the considered instead.
>>542504147So you're proposing a cart per lane, and then when it gets full they're suppose to 180°, unload and comeback until the lane is finished?Instead of just having all the laborers harvesting simultaneously at every surface area point?
>>542504377So they had the roads necessary to move giant nigger rocks but not little wagons?>>542504403I'm not proposing anything like that at all.
>>542504083>Bronze and Copper: Were the utilitarian workhorses of the empire. They mass-produced bronze pry-bars, heavy mason axes, chisels, star-shaped mace heads for warfare, and agricultural tools. Laboratory evidence of heavy use-wear marks on blunt bronze bars found near major masonry sites confirms that these bronze tools were actively used by stonemasons to work hard rock material.they weren't some retarded nigger brained tribe in africa that you share an iq with. mining, metallurgy and civilization points to enough intelligence to produce a wheel but geographically unnecessary. they are used llamas which have 4 wheel drive articulable wheels or legs.
>>542497316>How did they stack them?Usually one on top of the other. No need to thank me for my great insight. Your welcome.
>>542498274looks so fake.the ground is perfectthe "stones" are just poured and polished concrete.
>>542504652Once again, no wheel, giant nigger rock structures. Sorry, there's just no situation in which you don't want to haul something in a wagon if you're an AG civilization, even if it's just restricted to a small area.
>>542497725An advanced civilization wouldn't make a stupid rock wall
>>542504499They wouldn't have been able to make smooth roads to use and even if they could, without pneumatic tires or suspensions any hard rollers would be quickly cracked or crushed. Wheels simply aren't practical for heavy loads without the proper surface available, that's why heavy construction equipment and battle tanks also don't use them.
>>542496786They just flooded a river and let a giant rock erode thats how they got the lines I saw a documentary on how they are all just cut with water its erosion patterns not cement
>>542496662If you really want to know...It's ancient cement blocks - they were poured in place
>>542496882This. They didn't. They just found it and started using it. Their myths admit this. They told the Spanish this when they asked for their creation methods and techniques..>LMAO the gods just gave it to usNah... some other civilization built it, died off and then wandering savages came from the north and found it.
>>542505536Doesn't make sense. If you were going to use a moldable material like cement why would you make completely random shaped blocks and not use agglomerate to just make concrete.
>>542499732KEK.
>>542498542This is what the white race did against America... back when Hispanics like the Inga, Montezuma, and Esquivel families ruled America, its eople libed better lives.
>>542496882>They even said they didn't do it>you just know they'd love to take credit for itESL spotted or imbecile, hard to tell.
>>542496662levers and being 200 savages
>>542496728Retardo missing the elephant in the room
>>542496786Don’t judge other people by your own towering limitations.
>>542506008Oh, and patient savages, extremely patient. In ancient times everything took ages, and these sort of megaprojects took decades, because moving one rock is so cumbersome and takes an entire week or god knows how long.>they had nothing better to do
>>542505865I put no effort into posting here its people like you
>>542496662Coca leaves. Lots and lots of coca leaves
What was the purpose of the nubs?
>>542496662>“Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.” —ArchimedesOnly a retard asks questions which have obvious answers and then shrugs his shoulders.
>>542506150Ah! That's the stuff! Ah yeah!
>>542497559Based
Why does this quarried outcrop in China have nubs?
Do any modern schools of masonry use this technique in corners?
How and why were these stones modified as such?
Trapezoidal niches in Malta
>>542506262butthole and back scratchers
>>542499602
Trapezoidal niches in Peru
>>542496662This guy would have been able to tell youhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Leedskalnin
>>542496662They had some giants and alien technology, fucking retard.
>>542506500I want to believe
>>542496662It's concrete anon. A recipe that hasn't been used in a few thousand years.
80 ton blocks of granite quarried 800 km away, lifted 154 feet above the base of the pyramid....how?
why would any modern school teach you about this conspiracy bullshityyeaaahh mann its true*take another hit*no rreeaalyy
>>542506592There is zero evidence to support the "it's concrete bro" idea, and granite concrete can't even be produced today. The idea is just some French homosexual's fantasy.
>>542506262>>542506310>>542506360>>542506456they were all cut with modern tooling and/or poured in-place. there was no lifting of these stones, they were poured, cured and cut by freemasons in remote parts of the world before there was prying eyes, airplanes or cameras.
"Inca" megalithic wall in....Japan?
>>542496662>nonwhites do something complex in the past>UFOS DID IT!i thought we already had this conversation
Man these people had a lot of free timeI guess if I had no phone or pc or tv I might go out and haul some stones too
>>542496662antidiluvian architecture, probably built by the survivors of the disaster that destroyed atlantis
>>542499387Was going to post something along these lines. O remember seeing something in, i think it was an egyptian documentary about using sand, water and the tools they had to basically grind away at the stone. Sort of how we use a grinding wheel or a cut-off wheel these days. Maybe they had some kind of other method that qorked better, like you said with large ropes pulled by many men, coated with the sand and maybe tar ot something else adhesive. Dunno but, again, sounds plauseabe.
>>542506683The geopolymer idea doesn't even make sense given the existing evidence. Why pour irregular blocks in the first place? In most all of these megalithic sites, also, the quarries have been found. Faggots like to claim "oh, but they were quarrying gravel to reconstitute it later," but they ignore evidence like tool marks and "forgotten stones" that are littered in between the quarries and the construction sites. Do everyone a favor and don't make claims that you not only can't prove, but which ignore a large amount of existing evidence.
>>542497498The walls of Jericho were felled by thousands marching widdershins around it and shouting in unison.It's in the Bible anyway.
>>542496662history is a liehttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/213697329
>you have to believe me
>>542496662>>542506713Guys it was literally giants
>>542506728>guess if I had no phone or pc or tv I might go out and haul some stones too>No phone or pcYeah, nice try retard. If you don't have a phone or pc how the fuck are you going to learn how to build it? How do you get the schematics and shit??
>>542496662A white man taught them how to do it
>>542496786They just did this impossible thing okay? Stop asking questions.
>>542506874Makes more sense than the geopolymer idea.
>>542506874Genesis 6:4 KJV;There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
no rreaaallyyreally its realyou must believe meive seen ithttps://youtu.be/kceJXOKu_3g?is=
>>542500787I bet they lived in greater abundance in certain parts of the year than we do and food storage was their problem rather than growing or gathering enough.
>>542506346Heh
>>542500701Because they already invented 'the board' and 'the sand', which are all you actually need. The best available wheel for that time would've just been 'the log', and they probably knew about that too, but ultimately decided against it because how the fuck do you control a 200 ton rock rolling on logs?
>entire temple carved out of the solid mountainside>entire thing is one solid piece, no room for error>including interior rooms and extensive tunnels>400,000,000 pounds of stone removed >hard basalt, does not yield easily even to steel tools>no one knows where all the rock was deposited - the ancients weren't actually good at hiding things like that...imagine the rock pile that still sits at the base of Mt. Rushmore x 10,000 >mainstream history claims jeets did this, based on a couple inscriptions on the temple
posting in a retarded lunatic conspiracy thread full of crazy people
>>542507177Do you have an explanation for why the ancient Peruvians carved a hillside like this?
>>542507261you don't have to believe meall im saying is you have to believe me, you have to
https://youtu.be/fVlL9sJGKwY?is=
space menja man.shitt
>>542506684spics are chinks, look into it, with your third eye
>>542507165Making huge, multi-generational rock carvings were a way for pre-literate people to have a piece of immortality. Rock removed in small amounts over hundreds of years. Waste pile consumed as quarry for smaller buildings.>mainstream history claims jeets did this, based on a couple inscriptions on the temple2500 years ago Indians were extremely wealthy. Present day jeets are what happens when the (((brahmin))) win and breed the underclasses into a degraded servitor race.
https://youtu.be/OrW4KC38f48?is
>>542497328>Damn I didn't think of thisThis one statement applies to most historical shit.
>>542507554>Making huge, multi-generational rock carvings were a way for pre-literate people to have a piece of immortality.Do you even know the first thing about what you're talking about, or do you just lift lines from popular fiction and pretend they are your thoughts?
>>542498538No shit living people didn't build them.
>>542507668Do you claim to know exactly what pre-literate people were thinking 3000 years ago, or are you just deliberately ignoring the simplest explanation because it's not interesting?
>>542496662We'll never know because the Spanish burned all their books.
>>542507768Where does this 3000 year number come from?
>>542506500Completely disregarded since they used niggers instead of ancient Egyptians to portray the constructors. And before some redditor answers "b-but, ahkshually the niggerinos were slaves brought in to work in the pyramids by le evil Pharaoh", being a constructor of such an important cultural and religious monument like a Pyramid was a highly regarded and respected job in ancient Egypt, they were even buried in the vicinity of the monuments they built, near the Pharaoh and the Gods, a honor that not many military men and nobles ever had, so getting some nigger cheap ass slave workforce for something so important was unfathomable. That doesn't mean that the workers weren't exploited or mistreated to some extent, we still do that in 2026.
>>542507911The same orifice as your aliens.
>>542496662with stone softening liquid chemicals
>>542508010Maybe they used magic, or other powers that don't exist.
>>542508010you could smooth out the surfaces of limestone with acid after hewing
>>542508224It's granite.
>cast not carved>hurr hurr hurr>they softened the stone with chemicals>durr durr durr
>cast not carveduhhhhh, oops. except they literally carved the blocks out of the quarries
>>542508263basalt probably. (ande)site maybe. exterior is limestone
>>542508164tard
> tfw you come too late to an Andy Hall/Roger Cunningham/etc. thread> t., Eddie Leedskalnin
>>542497859Goould?
>>542507165It isnt like they were working with power tools or explosives even today working with rock is veeerry sloooow so you can take time to be a perfectionist. There are smart jeets and there were probably more of them back in the days before modernity allowed their more retarded population to proliferate with the fecundity of today's poos.
>>542506646There's enormous evidence for it, just as there is that you are a low IQ glownigger.
The old flat earth trolls on /b/ back in the day playing devils advocate for shits and giggles before people who didn't get the joke fell for it and broke containment were much much much better at this than you guys are.
>>542509716Yeah, when you used to suck cock back at the rail yard everyone said you were special and you still miss those days.
>>542508551Do you think the OP image is Egypt? Understandable....although a large amount of the casing stones of the pyramids were probably granite as well. And many had nubs. Why did they have nubs?
>>542509587Zero. Granite concrete can't even be produced today.
>>542509782It's the suction point for the polymer injection.
>>542509813We only relearned Roman concrete a few years ago, blood was the secret ingredient. Yet we still can't produce concrete of equivalent quality.
>>542509823What polymer? Point to your evidence.>>542509864Roman concrete is based on limestone, not granite, and there has never been a period of history when anyone ever forgot that the Romans used it.