How does Trump stop this? This is pretty much the end of the world type scenario now. I'm actually getting scared now.
>>542566450He can't.There is no stopping it.Iran knows all the wests soft spots and they've been planning 50 years to attack them
>>542566450>>542566529its so fucking over
>>542566450Americans deserve this for sure
>>542566529Don’t clap too hard leaf. We’re gonna annex you for timber when the oil runs out.
>>542566450Maybe if he guzzles more Jew cum your life will improve. What did you cuckstain priest tell you during church service this morning?
>>542566611>flaggotKYS
This is precisely how Trump gets a third term
>>542566611>>542566637Same unimaginative troon switching vpn
>>542566611your shithole country will be effected by this
>>542566450truck stops are who are fucking truckersthey are consistently higher than "4wheeler" gas stations.
>>542566450we deserve this. we aren't going to get out of this without a lot of pain. you are naive if you think this hasn't been decades in the making.
>>542566450I'll say it, that's cheap.
>>542566450He can't because he started this war and stubbornly persisted, which resulted in the Strait of Hormuz operating at a trickle of its usual traffic for months.He could have stopped this months ago by simply abiding by the ceasefire, but his ego prevents him from agreeing to anything that is not a one-sided agreement where the other party grovels before him.His best bet was to take the deal Tehran was offering in Feb that was better than the JCPOA, but either he wanted war anyway or Witkoff and Kushner were too retarded and ignorant to realize that great deal they had on their hands.In short, the best thing Trump could do at this point would be to resign like Nixon.
>>542566450maybe he shouldnt have started and lost a forever war with iran........ at this point just pay iran the reparations and surrender you lost.......
>>542566782But israel has the tapes of trump fucking kids.
>>542566450You all will see how, on 9/15/2026.Its happening. And its gonna be big. There'll be no denying it, anymore.>Shreetshot this poastSEPTEMBER 15th, 2026.Its gonna be biblical.
>>542566902whatll happen
>>542566893You are disgusting. You are a shitlord.
>>542566450If the Hormuz and Bab al-mendeb straits are blocked i think all that's really left in range of Iran is the Azerbaijan pipelines which are probably safe. The other option would be to double down on Al-Shabab and have them pirate oil tankers going the cape of good hope route, which is much more doable, Africa in general is to much of a mess for me to know who backs what but Libya/Algeria/Nigeria are all relatively large oil producers which could face some issues if the Sahel destabilizes further at the hands of islamic terrorists.
>>542566773>egoDude he is doing this for Israel. That’s all he cares about now.
>>542567066I can't say that right now. I've said too much already. I don't want to be responsible for a repeat of when /pol/ saved the Space Needle in Seattle.What is to come, must be.To stop it is to interfere with fate, itself.
>>542566611EVERYONE is effected by this.
$5000 to every farmer
>>542566450Doesn't the bulk of American alfalfa hay just go towards feeding racehorses? Just stop wasting agricultural land on feeding vanity projects!Also how much corn is turned into ethanol?
>>542566450How? End the Iran war - essentially cave to their demands. Cut the federal fuel tax. End tarriffs, reinstitute full trade agreements with Canada and the EU. Institute windfall taxes on resource extraction and processing. Assume federal control of petroleum refining.
>>542567095I'm not the guy who voted for a pedophile.You are.
We call this winning down in my deep red state.
>>542566902>>542567260>Q posting nigger faggot in the year 2026Imagine, lmao truly
>>542566450time to nationalize big oil
>>542567309No. The bulk of American alfalfa goes straight into the arms of our enemies.China and Russia.Courtesy of some of our traitorous American farmers.
>>542567260I sure can’t wait until Tuesday when ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENS!!!!
>>5425666111,00000 percent
>>542566450>How does Trump stop this?1. Fuel Tax moratorium2. Stimulus checks3. End the warsThat's the reality of it all.p.s. he doesn't give a fuck about you, so none of the above will happen.
>>542566611Everyone who talks shit about nations from behind a memeflag is a sloppy pussy of the smelliest order.
>>542566450You are inside the looking glass nowToo late to be acared
>>542566686Guzzle more Jew cum cuckstain
>>542566633First finish off Iran goy or else.
>>542567391I didn't vote for Joe Biden. I was going to until I saw all those videos of him creeping on little girls the daughters of Senate members, at all of those ceremonies.The diary of his daughter, Ashley Biden, where she wrote about having been sexually abused by her father, didn't come out until later.
>>542566902>biblicalso it will be a fake story used to scare retards?
>>542566633this doesn't make any sense
>>542566450I've been saying for years we need to invest in biodiesel. With just a small modification, any diesel engine can run on used cooking oil. Fuck ai bullshit, we need to be investing in that.
>>542566450>How does Trump stop this?Stop why?He doesn't care.He's explicitly said he doesn't care.
>>542567460o7
>>542566669Fourth you mean.
>>542567759we already use biodiesel. in california its 100% biodiesel in damn near every other state its some mix of regular and bio diesel ( generally called diesel #2 or some shit)
Trump is not in charge retards.
>>542566450The USA's going to invade Canada over this.
>>542566450>This is pretty much the end of the world type scenario nowMore like the end of the Collective Zionist West
>>542567391
>>542567673>Whataboutism will certainly work this time
>>542566450It isn't up to TrumpTrump serves IsraelIf he was calling the shots, we would never have attacked Iran
>>542567922
>>542566611We didn’t do shit, you jealous faggot
>>542567497Its happening faggot. Screen shot my post to prove it. In Wednesday come back here and acknowledge meeeeee
>Be Iran>dig your grave>jump in>get blown up>blow up al Qaeda for revenge>blow up your own oil for revenge>any oil that does get out sell it to China for 90% to buy Walmart quad copters>when everyone’s buying EVs, SMRs, solar and fracking>oil’s worthless>you become only a desert again>everyone there diesgreat job
>>542566633Who the fuck is we? You think America should attack its only reliable source of heavy sour oil now in the middle of the oil crisis?
>>542566529FPBP
>>542567680You sound like the flimsiest faggot from here to Texas, desu.
>>542566450It begins. Costco and other retailers are officially rationing motor oil in preparation for the fact it won't fucking exist in a couple of months
>>542567962>7 dollars a gallon for diesel is winning.Hope you weren't dead set on eating every day.
>>542567922You talk like a faggot.
>>542567759This would make the problem even worse. You need a huge amount of agricultural output to produce biodiesel.If you're worried about people starving then you need to stop turning food into fuel so that retards can drive inefficient cars around in circles.
Trump is doing a controlled demolition on the USA, just like how Jews did 9/11
>>542567825Then why the fuck is it so expensive?
>>542567962Lol. Facts. They hate him cuz they ain't him.
>>5425669022 MOAR Days
>>542566450Buy an ad.
>>542568362That's retarded thinking from a person whose country is 99% uninhabitable. We have so much agricultural production. If we shifted production from high fructose corn syrup to biodiesel we could solve two problems in one go. We export food out the ying yang. It's a non-issue.
>>542566450Stop?Why would he stop when high gas prices fill the wallets of the (((tribe)))?
>>542568510What you're saying is that the farmers are going to use biodiesel to grow more biodiesel? And this will lower food prices how exactly?
>>542568044will this be a net positive or net negative. in 2 more days.
>>542568441This guy gets it.9/15/2026All will be made clear.It will all make sense. Finally.>SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T TELL THE PEOPLE, YOU MUST SHOW THE PEOPLE>THEY WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO WALK DOWN THE STREET>DARK to LIGHT>IT HAD TO BE THIS WAY>Nothing can stop what is coming.Nothing.
>>542568696A net positive. It will only be bad, for all the ones who are doing bad things to good people.
>>542568691They obviously grow more than they use like any other production in the world. If they don't then that's why they need to research it instead of ai. Your dumb ass doesn't complain that we use machines that run on oil to dig more oil. Stop being stupid.
>>542568312>Has to claim diesel instead of just gas and inflates the number as wellThat's it? This is going to be the cheapest and easiest war US ever won. Life was harder under Biden
>>542567962>Rampant inflation and $7 gallon gas pricesAre you Dobson?
>>542568840Yeah but how does converting more agriculture land away from food production lower the cost of food?
>>542566529This isn't to fuck America.This is to fuck Israel.Hormuz would be open if Israel didn't order the strikes on the ayatollah.
"I never thought the leopards would eat MY face" sobs farmer who voted for leopards eating faces party.
>>542568969Because not every food is corn and it lowers transportation costs across the board and we have so much farmland we don't know what to do with it all anyway. Your deformed chinese brain can't even fathom the amount of food we produce as a nation.
>>542568881Well also in real terms that diesel price is actually lower due to inflation. But a problem is that interest rates have risen considerably this time. So people are hit with higher borrowing costs and higher fuel prices.
>>542566450>carfags in apocalytpic panicOh wow thats just uhh *walks by you stopped at the red light* thats just too bad whew I mean... *gets from point A to point B for free* that really sucks! Really, thats just uhh *checks my perfect BMI, blood pressure, and general health* zamn that sucks!
>lol
>>542568720MotherOfAllRetribution
>>542568720It'll be my birthday so I'm expecting a major fucking surprise anon DO NOT DISAPPOINT
>>542568900inflation rate increase is flat, literally 0% rate increase the last 9 months and diesel has not even gotten to $6 USD. gas still under $4.5 both of which are bellow Bidden levels. These are all easily looked up numbers.
>>542569131Well I actually do study agriculture and know that the US agricultural output is massive. But you already turn a lot of that into ethanol for fuel. So I fail to see how making even more agricultural products into fuel is going to lower the price of food. And clearly you don't know how it can either or you would be using some clear and precise maths to prove your point.
>>542567673You mean those diary entries Republicans completely made up?
>>542566529they didn't even do anything. we did it to ourselves.
>>542566450this would end sooner if trump just came out of the closethttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU51S26hrA&ra=m
>>542569241Why would I need to use math when it's common sense, dumb ass? When you lower the cost of transportation, the cost of goods don't increase. If you truly studied it then you'd realize we export over 40 million bushels of corn every year. So stop trying to act like it's not feasible with our current production to turn it into biodiesel.
>>542569106Be advised that when presented with the Iran question, Kamala Harris, jeet scammer and presidential nominee without winning a primary, said that "all options are on the table". Don't fucking act like vooooooting means a god damn thing in weimerica
>>542569340Ok. So let's say you reduced the corn output/export by 20 million bushels. What happens to the global market price of corn? Does it go up or down?
>>542566450How could Biden do this? Someone should stop him!
>>542569483Diesel is woke and just trying to make Trump look bad
>>542569468Who fucking cares about global corn prices? We are using it to help our domestic industry. Why are you such a dumb bitch that you act like destroying millions of acres of farmland for resource sink data centers is better than using that land to make biodiesel?
>>542569355Are u American, that's not how politics works here
>>542569577Well the global corn market directly impacts the price of corn in the USA. So when you reduced domestic corn production the price of corn increases in the USA. Hence, you end up increasing the price of food.
>>542566450Wait a second.. What happened after Germany had all that hyperinflation again?
>>542569355I was referring mostly to farming subsidies and assistance, but sure we can do Iran.Saying options are on the table isn't really commitment one way or the other.
>>542569483I'll worry once someone starts saying, 'shiny and chrome' as they hang off my car door.
>>542569609You have to be trolling nigger. If not you should probably get up to speed on the fact that yes that's not how things work here and yes they fucking installed her anyway and yes millions of faggots said OK and voted for her. Either way, the point I'm making is this Iran shit was in the script regardless of who won
>>542569650Can't wait for the global economy to collapse and suggesting the concept met with swift execution for centuries to come
>>542569650Yeah, maybe if we were importing it. Pretty sure we can charge ourselves however much we want for it. Just embargo the export of corn if greedy kikes want to sell it elsewhere. I really don't see how oil can make shithole countries rich but biodiesel couldn't make us rich. The only limiting factor is the evil big oil lobby that will kill anyone that tries to cut into their profits.
>>542566450>emergency gibs for 'farmers'every fucking time. free money for these cunts.
>>542569698You can guess all you want, but you're still guessing at what would happen. And predicting the future is a shit proposition. If it worked, kamala would have won like everyone was predicting.
>>542569775Well yes if you cut yourself off from the international market then your idea becomes a lot more viable. You're talking about growing enough food for yourself and then converting the excess (which you previously exported) into biodiesel. But you're now talking about some serious changes to the international order. I was merely arguing that under the current constraints of international trade your idea would lead to higher food prices in the USA.But I think you also a very good question, why should the US government spending billions in subsidies to farmers so that they can grow food for people who hate America?
>>542566450>How does Trump stop this?He has to do the one thing he'll never do - give up on the warSince he is unwilling to actually use the force needed to decisively end the war in our favor (ground invasion or tac nukes, both of which would be a disaster anyway) then the only option is to accept Iran's conditions and basically surrenderThe military is already debating wether it's even worth it to rebuild our Gulf bases that have been made inoperable, and moved those forces further west, which ticks 1 of Iran's demands of us dismantling our presence in the middle eastNow we just have to accept that Iran will control the strait, and allow them to charge for passageThat's it. That's the only way this ends without spiralling into an energy crisis. Iran will not fold, they are getting by just fine even with all the sanctions on them. "But we destroyed their navy and air force!" - doesn't matter. The core of their military force is cheap missiles and drones, and we've proven incapable of stopping them from building and launching those. He has to just give it upAdmit it was a mistake, capitulate, and leave the regionBut because this is HIS war, he can't do that. He can't go down as a loser.So we'll get a global energy crisis.
>>542566450>Not using the corpses of the dead to make LPGYou and me are not the same.
>>542569652Kikes took full control and enslaved the German people. Trannyism. Woman and child forced into brothels. Pedophilia legal and rampant. [YOU ARE HERE]. Germans stripped of all worldly possessions. Wheelbarrels of cash worthless. A (((communist))) uprising. Germans mowed down in the streets with machine guns. Everything following is good shit however
>>542570023Corn is one product. We could just as easily export biodiesel for better profits. The only problems are the aforementioned cutthroat oil lobby and lagging technology (due to the shithead oil lobby) causing refinement costs to be higher than they need to. If we invested as much money into biodiesel as we have into worthless data centers, we'd have no problem lowering energy and transportation costs around the country. But instead we pump money into things that consume resources instead of produce them.
>>542566450> How does Trump stop this?Why contain it?
>>542570265I get your point. At least you still have some type of functioning oil and diesel production. Australia is also a big agriculture exporter but we pretty much import all our diesel, fertiliser, machinery, and Ag chemicals. Our government collects more tax on taxing local alcohol consumption than it does on our entire LNG exports (of which are quite sizeable).
>>542568382Im just telling you what I see out there. I drive a truck and go to each coast on alternating weeks. California has the most expensive diesel by far and it's also 100% biodiesel.
>>542566773>His best bet was to take the deal Tehran was offering in Feb that was better than the JCPOADude, yes you're right about most of your analysis but could you stop groveling to Iran? They did not give a better deal than JCPOA. It was a worse deal and everyone said so which is partly why Trump rejected it. After being the largest critic of JCPOA when Obama signed it, you couldn't then sign an exact copy of it that was objectively worse than it
>>542570085Yeah but that'd also collapse the petro dollar so you know. Fucked either way.
>>542569197When does a bird sing? Well guess what? Sing song times are over now.The storm is upon us. Justice. Is. Here.
>>542566611>>542566633Check'd
>>542570686Yep. Dragged into a lose-lose situation by Israel yet again.
Just tell Iran they can have a nuke in exchange for free oil.
>>542570669>They did not give a better deal than JCPOA. American Public School education hard at work.Before the war, the Iranians offered Wittkoff and Kushner a deal that made massive concessions to their nuclear program above and beyond the JCPOA. The mouthbreathers were too fucking retarded as inexperienced negotiators and did not have a proper delegation of nuclear and general energy specialists that would be standard for such negotiations to understand that the Iranians were offering them a huge gift. Turns out that running the most powerful country in the world like your corrupt family business in service of your foreign business interests actually has fucking consequences.
>>542566450don't bail out the farmers, those selfish fucks wanted thislet them know pain
>>542566450Should have bought Teslas like Trump endorced
>>542569206I'm gonna pull the whole thing down.I'm gonna bring the whole fuckin' diseased corrupt temple down on your heads.It's gonna be Biblical.>Enjoy the Show.
>>542570832Israel would never accept this. They would do something drastic. And not to Iran, but to America.
>What is Trump going to do about thisSend a legion of shills to deflect blame of course.
>>542569254No. I mean the diary written by Ashley Biden when she was in rehab, due to how messed up in the head being the child victim of sexual abuse made her. Even as an adult.
>>542566450Trust me when I sayNOTHINGEVERHAPPENS
>>542566529Shut the fuck up Leaf, we are waging a war against China, and this is part of the payment to Canada from Trump for your loyalty. Your oil sands produce the ultra dark crude that makes the best diesel. Your oil sands will completely float the Canadian government with tax revenue. Calgary will flood with money. And here you are griping. You are lucky Trump wanted you as an ally and not a foe in this war.
>>542566773You knucklehead, he WANTS the straight closed. This is WAR. We either starve China out now or face them on equal footing in ten years. Trump is being smart and taking our last chance to beat up on third world China instead of fully operational China.
>>542566450Those farmers should have learned to code
>>542566902stfu faggot, you know you have no power
>>542568071Yes
>>542566893Trump's going to take down all the Deep State, Zionists & Pedos with him. Epstein & Q predicted this.
>>542569355What was the alternative, to going to war with Iran? Don't just say " not going to war with Iran ", either, to get out of answering the question.
>>542571048China hasn’t been truly third world in nearly 20 years
>>542571048>You knucklehead, he WANTS the straight closedthe American people don't>This is WARa war that basically nobody supports>We either starve China out now or face them on equal footing in ten yearsTry telling people that they have to pay $6/gal for gas because it's all a 10-year strategy to "weaken China"see how that goes over with them
>>542571048if china percieved this an actual attack on their critical oil supply chain by america and israel they wouldn't do nothing they would be going to war. japan understood this when they preemptively attacked the US in WW2
>>542567534ZERO of these things will happen. gg no re, faggot migatards
>>542566450The 5 thousand dollar relief cheques will more than cover this slight rise in prices. Americans should be celebrating.
>>542571048>We either starve China out nowLol, they have deeper oil reserves. This is not something that America c.Feb 2026 was in any position to win.And it increases the appetite for green energy and electrification in international trade where China is world class in>on equal footing in 10 yearsYou are 10 years behind the times. We were on an equal footing with China at the start of the Trump era. After 10 years of naval buildup and observing from Ukraine, China would realistically win in the Pacific if push came to shove.Trump fucked up the Asia-Pacific policy of the Cold Warriors that Obama had started to rekindle after years of GWOT neglect and reduced readiness in his first term.
>>542568044I am gonna screen shot it and come back and post the screen shot publicly so everyone can laugh at your ass when ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPENS!!!!
>>542567962>Trump is winningName one way that he is. No, made up deportation numbers spewed in monologues doesn't count. The government stopped reporting monthly PHYSICAL DEPORTATIONS the moment this orange nigger took office. We only get immigration arrests. That's NOT deportations.
>>542571128You aren’t wrong, this is unpopular. But it is a reasonable opinion to take that war with China is inevitable. If you hold that opinion, like Trump clearly does, it makes so much sense to wage that war now than wait for China to be ready for it. And the best way to wage it now is to starve China of the only resource they need, oil.Trump is an old school play for keeps kind of guy. He won’t suffer slipping behind China meekly without a fight. This is the best fight we can wage whether the normies like it or not.
>>542571048>Muh 4D Chess Anti-China gamesmanshipYour brain on Fox News. If Trump had even a glancing plan to actually corner China he would have rallied the US' allies to unify against China. Instead he alienated those allies and so they are all making deals with China not just behind the US' back but openly because everyone except MIGA faggots see Trump as a fucking joke. Cherry on top? Those same allies could have helped corner Iran too. Turns out that telling all of your friends to go fuck themselves right before you need their help is a really fucking stupid thing to do.
>>542568881You're a fucking retard shill. Diesel trickles through the entire fucking economy. You don't realize how fucked you are for this billionaire kike loving nigger faggot to profiteer more, and suck israeli cock.
>>542571201Why do you think we are aggressively projecting our military inadequacy? Why every report is on overflowing bathrooms and missile supplies? We are doing the EXACT strategy that got Japan to attack us. We WANT China to lash out so we can whip them now.
>>542570085You lack imagination.Not to mention, you are a real Debbie Doomer, as well.
>>542571232China only has an oil surplus because they aren’t stupid and saw this strategy coming. It will still work. We are chipping away at their reserves and in another year they will be out. Meanwhile we will be just fine, albeit much poorer. But this is war, you can’t get away clean every time.
>>542571283LIBERATION DAY was just the sort of thing Trump wanted to do in his first term, but was held back by the establishment. He settled for merely torpedoing TPP and handing Southeast Asia to China on a silver platter.
>>542571048LMFAO
>>542571276>And the best way to wage it now is to starve China of the only resource they need, oil.Overnight China decimated their reliance on oil and it took the rest of the financial world months to even figure out it happened because they did it so quietly. If you really think that China can't ween itself off oil at a rate an order of magnitude more smoothly than the US when China is actively expanding its alternative energy base by advancing solar and battery tech then your brain is so pickled by Fox News poison that you are functionally retarded.
>>542571276It's really not hurting China that much at all though. It's hurting us a lot more. The strategy is not working, it's not worth it. It's a bad play.All that Trump is doing is impotently dragging this out saying "Iran wants to make a deal just 2 more weeks patriots and if you don't like high gas prices then FUCK YOU!"there's midterms coming uprepublicans are going to lose and the last 2 years of Trump's presidency will be a lame duck session where he can't get anything done. Americans won't put up with a neverending war that starts seriously eating into their quality of life.So what are we doing here, exactly? Is this actually worth it? Clearly not.And Vance, or whoever comes after Trump on the Republican side, is going to have to own all of this bullshit, and it will probably cost them the 2028 election. So this 10-year strategy to fight China will not actually be seen through to the end, as a new administration will abandon it completely as soon as Trump is gone.The war was an unforced error, and a pivotal one. >This is the best fight we can wageThen we're a pathetic country
>>542570828You underestimate the United States of America, all too quickly.
>>542571283Europe was already in bed with China. That is why Trump colluded with Putin to get Ukraine going. To punish their disloyalty. Europe never would have gone against China, they were making secret deals to embrace China as the new world power and ditch the USA. Trump sniffed it out
>>542571383It will not work. The SPR that was drained under Biden will not hold out longer than Chinese reserves. In no small part because Trump didn't put in any real effort to refill it with petroleum near all-time lows in Feb before launching this war.If you hastily start a war on the basis of a brainfart, you will have piss poor logistics.
>>542571367>You lack imaginationOk Mr. Imaginationtell me how we force the strait open without a ground invasion or tactical nuclear weapons?I'll waitwhat's your plan?
>>542571428It’s funny because China has spent decades playing it off like they are just “woke” on climate change and not actively decoupling from the global oil market. This has apparently worked to keep western governments from caring about the shift for some reason.
>>542571383>Meanwhile we will be just fine, albeit much poorer........the entire country becoming much poorer in 1 year's time is not being "just fine"
You better hope fat ass polyester mannequins are palatable.
>>542571428We don’t need to ween ourselves off oil. Assuming Canada stays with us we have all the heavy crude we need, and we produce double the light crude we need. China won’t completely ween themselves off before they need to.
>>542566450>How does Trump stop this? This is pretty much the end of the world type scenario now. I'm actually getting scared now.Revoke recognition of the so-called "israel", recognize "israel" and "zionism" as terrorist movements, launch a full-scale invasion of the Levant to destroy the israeli terrorist organization.That's the ONLY thing he could do, but he won't, because he's a jew.
>>542571428This idea that it's somehow about owning China by proxy is also sanewashing it. Trump and Hegseth have said nothing to imply that was even a tertiary objective. Trump, Rubio, and Hegseth are not Kissinger and Brzezinski imagining a grand chessboard.
>>542571431I’m fine with saying this is a bad strategy, but you are being retarded. We are a net oil exporter and China a massive oil importer. The majority of their oil came from Iran and Venezuela.
>>542571452No, I'm estimating us very accurately. We hit them with almost everything we have short of ground forces or nukes, and it's not working.The American people have never had the stomach for long wars especially when it starts really hurting at homeUnderestimate?What exactly else do you think we're going to do here? We've been in a fucking stalemate with Iran controlling the strait and us not being able to do anything about it for months now, and nothing has changed and nobody has a plan to change it.
>>542571454Utterly insane migger cope
>>542566611It's a couple of bucks. You aren't a serious human primate at all.
>>542571498You are a soft and spoiled piece of shit. War requires sacrifice. We are at war with China. Get used to war rations.
>>542570852>the Iranians offered Wittkoff and Kushner a deal that made massive concessions to their nuclear program above and beyond the JCPOAConcensions that seemed inconsequential when you take into account the expanded nuclear infrastructure and enrichment capabilities. Remember this is about ultimately preventing Iran from getting nukes. They have not shown any sincerity in actually wanting to stop. They just wanna stall until they get them.>to understand that the Iranians were offering them a huge giftIts no gift to bullshit people. They needed to accept zero enrichment. They didn't.If they did that they would have got a deal and we avoid all this. If they really just want a civilian nuclear program, they can just import it like other countries do. No big deal.Iran is a shithole mudslime state intent on destroy America and I tend to not want to allow countries to destroy my nation. Nor should any other americans want this.
>>542571567>miggerTrump does not care about Israel. Like at all
>>542571272>"I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made">Troons, communists, browns, genders studies majors, feminists, epstein, muslims, criminals, scum of humanity, jeets,...
>>542571506It may have been a good idea not to start a trade war with your nearest supplier of petroleum before starting a war that shut down Middle Eastern petroleum exports. But that requires thinking about second order consequences and prerequisite steps before undertaking a course action, something you don't do when you act with an impulsive id.
>>542571594I won't have to get used to war rations, people are going to vote against this bullshit and Trump is going to be gone in 2 years
>>542571276The other two guys are debunking you pretty well on the points, I'm just here to laugh at how desperate the rationalizations are now. The Iran war happened because Netanyahu asked and Trump is stupid. That's all. There's no 4D chess here, not even from Netanyahu, he just made the same house call he's been making for 40 years and finally got an idiot who'd say yes. This war is happening because Trump is stupid, his cabinet is stupid, his family is stupid, and his donors are REALLY stupid. Imagine being Miriam Adelson right now, having paid out 500 gorillion dollars just to set Israel on the path to total annihilation. W H O O P S. Better hope that Mashiach comes soon, that's the best hope they've got.
>>542571547>I’m fine with saying this is a bad strategyThen why do you support it?
>>542571566So we can take Venezuela’s dictator with what his guards regarded as alien technology, but we can’t beat the Iranians because of their bottle rockets? Thankfully the Chinese aren’t as gullible as you are otherwise we would be in a hot war like Trump is trying to trick them into.
>>542571486If that's really what it was, it's pretty damn smart.
>>542571454>Trump sniffed it out>More 'Muh Trump is a Main Character Ubermench Fox News bullshitYou can fuck right off to /ptg/ with that bullshit. In reality: The Europeans watched the US elect a pedophile New York Conman boomer with a pickled brain and they started to question if it made sense to follow the US into an emerging technological and warfare era. Then you elected him twice and the Europeans realized they they were allied with a country of retards and started to hedge their bets and every day since Trump has proved their move away from the US to be the smart play. There's a reason why Mark Carney's speech about the death of the post Cold World order that serves the US first got him handjobs from the Europeans: He said the quiet part out loud that they were all saying behind closed doors to eachother.
>>542571078Mark my words. Remember my posts.Also, " I " am not the one doing anything.I can't go into it much more than that because like I said, I don't want another Seattle Space Needle event to (not) happen.Sometimes you think you're helping a situation by stopping what looks like a coming disaster, when really, intervening ended up causing a lot more problems.Real monkey's paw shit.
>>542571621>Better hope that Mashiach comes soonHe did, two thousand years ago. They done fuckin' goofed.
>>542571327but we don't. the us is involved with ukraine-russia and israel-iran. america doesn't want to deal with china until it can focus entirely on china. this is why people saying this is an attack on china are stupid. as if america needed to go through some side channel like iran to do it when we can escalate throughout a 100 better ways then gettiing sucked into another middle eastern forever war
>>542571656Yes, Iran is winning. This is fine.
>>542571547We are a net exporter of refined petroleum. We are a net consumer of petroleum more broadly. And again, oil is a global commodity. If the Persian Gulf is corked, Asia in particular will start bidding up oil from the Americas.I mean, we fucked over some of our staunchest allies in Australia, Japan, and South Korea for one of our worst in Israel.
>>542571656>So we can take Venezuela’s dictator with what his guards regarded as alien technology,You don't actually believe that story do you? It was a deal with Maduro's replacements, they just turned off the air defenses and told us where he'd be.
>>542566450By hoarding oil
>>542571619lol, you think the uniparty isn’t in charge this very second? Why didn’t Trump stop the obvious rigging of 2020? Why did Biden complete the necessary phase 1 of this operation in Ukraine? Why did Biden obviously throw the election for Trump in 24? Don’t worry, the uniparty will continue down this road after the change in leadership.
>>542571656>So we can take Venezuela’s dictatorYes, that was a succesful operation >but we can’t beat the Iranians because of their bottle rockets?That's right. They can make their missiles and drones very cheaply, very quickly, and we haven't been able to destroy the manufacturing sites or the launchers, because they are deep underground/highly mobile in that orderA single surprise operation to grab a head of state is not the same as a protracted standoff over a sea strait. The weapons systems involved are completely different.
>>542571757>Why didn’t Trump stop the obvious rigging of 2020? Why did Biden complete the necessary phase 1 of this operation in Ukraine? Why did Biden obviously throw the election for Trump in 24?holy cope lmao
>>542571634I DONT support it. I think we can live peacefully with China in a mutually beneficial way. I’m a lolbert. I am just correcting you on what is happening right now.
>>542571712Almost like US is cutting off China's partners one nation at a time. Isolating them. It reminds me of Kennan Containment Strategy used against USSR. What happened to USSR again?
>>542571595>Remember this is about ultimately preventing Iran from getting nukes.No, it's about destroying Iran the same way they broke the other 6 countries mentioned in the Clean Break strategy. Peace was never an option - from the US/Israel side. Israel wants Iran off the board and only balkanizing the country does that.
>>542571712It's just post hoc justification and sanewashing that has nothing do with anything the administration has said or implied. It's quite frankly a coping mechanism.
>>542571747And you don’t believe we have been in cahoots with Iranian leadership for 30 years? Ask any Iranian, they will tell you that the CIA basically controls their country.
>>542571757You're very close anon. There's a boring explanation to those questions that you're possibly ignoring.
>>542571506>Assuming Canada stays with usAh yes, the Canadians whose politicians are seeing a massive boost in their numbers by telling the US to fuck off and who just for the first time ever opened military coordination talks with the Chinese Military. Yep, those Canadians that you keep fucking with will follow you into the breech rather than China that is actively courting them and isn't ran by a braindead pedophile conman.
>>542571860Is it Jews? Lol
>>542571810Trump hasn’t paid attention to Asia in years. It’s all Israel all the time now
>>542566450Just put boots on the ground and fix your mistake America
>>542571886Did you even follow the last Canadian election when Trump hand picked Carney and basically campaigned for him by doing hilarious jingoistic acts that Carney could reply “elbow up” to? They are on the level. The conservatives would have won in Canada but Trump stoped them.
>>542571928Yeah those leafs better not fuck around or they will find out. Back stabbers will be punished.
>>542566450Remember when retards were saying farmers should pay whites more instead of the rightful owners of America?
>>542566450Trump should tell Iran he's sorry
>>542571473Lets just say that all this quibbling about the Middle East or China or any of our enemies will feel like the insignificant bite of a flea, come 9/15/2026.
>>542571886>>542571860>>542571852>>542571812The whites squatting in America have two options: side with immigrants, OR side with the war against Iran.
>>542571975It was legit funny to watch Trump become pure poison in real time over there
>>542571927we'd lose, it'd be a death trap
>>542572070so like in a good way or a bad way?
>>542566773The negotiations weren't real. Israel was doing one last push to try to remove a rival and failed.
>>542571923You mean other than Cuba, Venezuela, Panama, ect. Forcing China out of one nation at time across the globe.
>>542572134I am willing to accept that outcomeDead Amerigolums and Mudshits and a weakening of jizrael with its attack dog raped to deathWin-win-win
>>542571927No, what are you going to do about it?Cry more?HAHAHAH
Nationalize the oil industry, ban all oil exports and decouple from world oil markets. American oil for Americans.
>>542572245He is going to lose to the blue midterm wave
>>542566450>gallonPlease use the International Standard units.
>>542572264I mean, Trump has already gone full commie/socialist with the $5000 handout so may as well go all in for the votes and fix the oil prices for good and buy all those votes and lock in November and 28.
>>542572119
>>542571927There will be zero American boots on the ground.
>>542567260West Coast seismic event?
>>542572343There will be if they attack israel
>>542567260A third September attack would have everyone rolling their eyes.
>>542572264>>542572326Trump has already set the precedent for unilateral illegal executive action with no congressional oversight, so an oil takeover would be easy.
>>542572181In the absolute best way, anon.The best way.>Dark to Light
>>542569241>mathshow many "maths" are there? are they in the room with us now?
>>542569340>>542569577dude youre a fucking retard
>>542572290I doubt it. >Lowest poll numbers ever recorded for democrats
>>542566450>emergency relief for farmers and trucks, but fuck the average person, they can die
>>542571506>Assuming Canada stays with us we have all the heavy crude we needlol you're just gonna have to do glow ops on us for that to ever happen
>>542566450This is why you don’t start a war that could cause a global catastrophe just becasue some ratfaced kike told you you’d win in 48 hours.You can’t stop it. Saudis just had to shut the oil pipeline going across the country as well and Houthis control the entire western Yemeni coast.
>>542572643Trump is such a monster he has even said he wanted to cut off heating oil assistance for low income seniors etc. right as his retarded orange ass drove oil prices up at Israel's bidding. Idiots that voted orange are going to freeze if he has his way.
>>542566633Invade With what oil? The SPR has been drained to the point those caves are only weeks away from collapse from being so empty. If rationing happens to get the military the fuel it needs to occupy British Colombia and Toronto, the military will first need to quell the insurrection in the streets of the U.S. first There is NO WAY OUT for Trump. If he was half as smart as he think he is, he’ll resign and leave this shit pile he created for JD Vance to deal with, aka go groveling to Iran, Canada and China to put things back the way they were in 2024
>>542567066>whatll happenEven more vagueposting.
>>542572622It's cause everyone's riding with DSA. 47% approval. Higher than either party
>>542566633USA can't even deal with Iran. What hope do you have against Canada, let alone any other country? It will be another turtle defense where USA spend most of their money on missiles that doesn't really do anything and nations will probably start selling off their stocks and bonds related to USA and start trading more with China.
>>542566450I don't think he wants to.
>>542573022i was actually pretty worried the moment trump started talking about annexation but now i know that it's just a paper tiger. sure, i'll suffer if they invade but they'll lose.
>>542573079It would be a "USA wins the battle, but loses the war".
>>542573068Does Blumbf know that if the global economy crashes, his own money will be gone too?
>>542566450Stop this?You can't. Are you retarded? The machine is on. You can't turn it off.You will die in Iran. I tried to warn anyone who would listen to stay out of Iran for years.
>>542573110big part of me hopes i'll see videos of zogbot torture before i go if it does happen
>>542566529>>542567391>>542566893>>542567922>>542568312I can smell you schlomo.I can smell the Sabra.
iunnoi got off gas like 15 years ago brahenjoy your kike theater or whatever though
>>542573079Trump is planning on trying to destroy your auto market and manufacturing to turn you into basically a raw material producing low skill level economy to produce raw resources for our corporations like ford.Hell one of the requests was to remove French so companies have less printing costs when we sell your crap.
>>542567644....or else.
>>542566611this
Fucking nationalize the oil. That is what you do here. But he's too weak, he's coloring within the lines instead of taking action. Roosavelt would have done it.
>>542573293good luck, now that we know you'll keel over and die if you use any kind of force we can kinda get away with dragging out the negotiations and diversifying our exports
>>542566450Its only 3.30 in my state. What sorta femocrat hellhole are you guys in… im in the richest county in america living on low mid wage and its way easier now than under biden or even last year. Why arent you guys seeing progress? Its much cheaper now than it was… here at least.
>>542569698That's not how politics works in america
>>542573335Brother. I'm on your side. I been fighting Republicans (American Israelis) for almost 30 years.
>>542573335I hope you win.
>>542573466sorry man, i just used to think highly of americans so now i assume any american flag on /pol/ writes in bad faith.
>>542573327Roosevelt would never of had to. He wasn’t a fucking idiot like Trump who antagonizes the whole world and is surprised no one is coming to our side except useless UK with no raw materials to offer us, just gum-flapping and cultural shit we already had of theirs anyways Roosevelt knew about the value of alliances and good relations with nations, and even had one with fucking Stalin, since lend-lease meant big time sales for the American defense and auto industries
>>542573079The US could very easily flatten most major Canadian cities, as they're very close to the border. But like, why? The whole point of invading is to gain more resources than you spend, and just occupying Canada would be a logistical nightmare. The people aren't the problem the environment is. The hellhole that is Ontario is covered in snow for 1/3 of the year. Fuck, even our own government can't fix all the broken roads. Toronto, and large swaths of Ontario, are just a big swamp.
>>542566450Ukrainians and Europeans are seeing gasoline hit record highs. Well, what, didn’t you think about the consequences of strikes on Russia’s oil industry? Just fairy-tale degenerates.
>>542573535which is exactly why the arrangement we had before worked great. we WERE pretty much an economic vassal anyway but enough is enough.
>>542573532Roosavelt was a communist, big surprise he allied with communist. I'm just saying he would have nationalized this industry. Trump seems to be unable to do that. You can get the prices down to like 1/4 if you just nationalize it. Take over Canada too, why haven't we done that?
>>542566450>emergency relief>for truckersTruckers make over $40 an hour. Fuck off.
>>542573335>imports 3 million jeets>loses jobs at a million a year rate>profit?KEK can't wait for the western Canada October secession vote.
>>542573555I got called an FSB shill for suggesting that price capping Russian fuel would have significant economic consequences. Gee, sure is interesting how I was ultimately proven right.
you know americans are running out of arguments when they start ranting about jeets
>>542567806>I'm only pretending to be retarded
>>542572070I can’t wait to turn on the nightly news on September 15th, 2026 - the news anchor will appear on screen and say “Folks, sadly we are not going to be bringing you a news broadcast this evening because ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAS HAPPENED IN THE ENTIRE WORLD TODAY!!!!”
Oops civilization failed try again next time .You left the literal energy used to power your nation in the hands of jews and let it be a global market.Yup they wanted to be able to actively trade said commodity global on indexes so even if you have enough and secured your supply it's still a global commodity and basically civilization is gonna fail now because of jews, no way to stop this.
>>542572070>two more days
>>542573509I would of done the same thing.I was cock and ready to call you you Israeli too lol.>>542573211They always false flag and Canadian is one of their favorites around this time..I got a spreadsheet. It's my fishing
>>542567066Nothing as usual.
nothing will happen you stupid niggers
>>542573623I make $80 an hour, 8-9 hours a day, 6 days a week and I’m struggling in this economyI really don’t know how anyone else is managing these prices and these costs making less than I do.
>>542566450>election tourist first gas crisis
>>542573832and it was entirely avoidable this time. it's YOUR country's fault.
>>542566529Maybe on tiktok. Funny that you never see situation in iran because its all censored but trust the facts right everything is normal there kek
>>542566450Oh wow Trump is just another NWO shabbot goyim asshole, I'm so surprised!!
>>542573509Not to mention I been a socialist since the 80s.I'm kinda use to these reactions brother. So don't worry about it.
>>542571048China is already more ready for war than we are. We’re having to divert resources from our allies because we’re running out of bombs and supplies. China has the factories to make millions of drones a month and more war ships in a week than America can produce in a year. Yep, it turns out that offshoring all of our real production capabilities was fucking stupid and is coming back to haunt us now. Go figure!
>>542566450There’s literally nothing he can do.This is exactly why every other globohomo President before him told Israel to go fuck themselves when they suggested this war. Get ready for 10% annualized inflation because it’s coming, fast.
>>542573943The average chinese is about 50-60kg, living alone, and demoralised. In what world are they "ready for war", they even lost border skirmishes to jeets
>>542571048>equal footing in ten years.You're a nigger ridden 3rd world hellhole compared to china.
>>542566450Literally half of what we pay. But then we use this tax to pay for healthcare. Americans will still unironically defend trump. Gee just where are those Epstein files anyway
Americans are obese and mentally ill desu. WW2's hangover is ending
>>542573943Empty threat Cheerleader armyTemu plashipGo figure!
>>542566450>How does Trump stop this?Easy, nationalize the oil, all our gas and diesel is homegrown. USA 22 million barrels a day.Next is Saudi at 10 million a day, rest of world is about 6 million barrels a day.We gave the oil in USA to a few old guys, we can take it back why should they get all the money? It's our fucking oil.
>>542574168Our country hasn't won a war to people in sandals and our overall is that be dramatically lost more than we won.The wars we won were with tremendous ally backing and we even lost a few with tremendous ally backing.This was against illiterate goat herders with weapons from the 70s and 80s.Do you honestly believe the usa has the stones to stand up china even if it's farmers and temu rifles?I don't.
>>542574256afghanistan is currently having famine and begging for US and UN aid while you are typing
>>542566773At least there aren't boots on the ground. With this economic war everyone is suffering equally so maybe there will be more impetus from all sectors of society to end it.
>>542574306>Some how that means they won the warNo it just means they go back to be Afghanistan
>>542574256https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/08/1168069millions without food as taliban fail to provide basic necessities while they execute their own people and cry for US aid xD
>>542574319I would not be too optimistic. Looters will simply loot harder. My government, for example, just reinvested in a different losing war.
>>542574365taliban are now clowns who dven lost skirmish to pakistan now as they have no manpower left, no power projection and are just watching millions of their own ppl starve to death that's a big win lmao
>>542566450>How does Trump stop this?Don't start a war with Iran out of nowhere in February 2026.
>>542574430Yes doesn’t change the fact the US lost in Afghanistan thats the point you stupid polack
>>542574456its inevitable. Iran sponsors mass immigration, supports Russia war against europe, and openly states their goal is to establish global islamic caliphate.
>>542574485us defeated the taliban and removed them as relevant player and now funnels aid to taliban under huge penalties to them doesnt sound like defeat to me when taliban are the ones paying tribute and dropping dead of starvation
>>542567759>>542567825We already have cars that run on water, and who knows what else which has been suppressed. Maybe this is how we get actually environmentally friendly vehicles.
>>542574485>>542574525correction I just read usa removed Afghanistan from countries eligible for food aid. so they are fucked as no food will be sent to save Afghanistan from famine, im sure more sharia law will grow food though LMAO
After reading this Poland-anonymous' posts I have begun to feel very confident in the United States of America and I feel very negative towards the enemies of the United States of America. Thank you Anonymous
>>542566611I consistently have been against all American wars, invasions, and economic sanctions my entire life and I've been screamed at and attacked by both the left and the right the whole time.
>>542566450>Hash out secret rippentrop style agreement with Iran>Immediate nuclear strike on Israel, targeting their population centers and nuclear sites.>Hunt down and sink their two nuclear armed submarines.>Continuous airstrikes to destroy all air force and ground forces>Gaza/hezzbolah allowed to claim whatever they want>Iran and US setup joint toll booth on the strait.>Create a second toll booth in red sea with yemen>Pay down the national debt with said tolls.
>>542566611
>>542572825I'm actually fine with it if the consequences of this fall primarily on his voters.>Fuck them all
>>542574605Even in this hypothetical, you would not see positive results from such a thing. Said tolls are an aggression on all of Asia.
>>542574605communist delusion at its finest.
>>542566773>but his egoHe does it for Jews and Israel and it's insanely obvious and objectively true that's the case. I really hope when we're all starving and dying from the fallout of all this you lefties fuck off with your copes. We seriously don't have time for this shit anymore. Yes, it's "the Jews."
>>542574655IOW you would just juice Pan-Asia and Russia vs. US-Iran which would end very poorly for US-Iran.
>>542574306We still lost idiot.France had a famine after workers overthrew their king too.It's called restructuring. Companies do it all the time.Maybe start a blog about all the fired workers from restructuring if your so concerned.
>>542574372Ask me how I sleep at night not being in Afghanistan vs being there.Ask me.
>>542574319>impetus from all sectors of society to end it.Only Jewish interests are ever listened to or acted upon by those with power. There are no other interests or groups that are even considered besides Jews and Israel. Yes, they will allow the entire nation and the world to suffer and die if that's the cost to doing everything the Jews want. They hear and see the American people's economic suffering. They don't give a fuck.
>>542574372>>America invaded and burns all the fields but the poppy ones. Several years later a Israeli tells me that they are Ein famine and they need us :(Convincing.
How the fuck one man can fuck up everything so bad? How?
>>542574963By doing everything in his power to lick Israel's balls
>>542574573It takes more energy to get hydrogen out of water than you get from burning the hydrogen. Water powered cars are always scams with a battery hidden out of view.
>>542574963He didn't really do that much other than pull the trigger. The conditions have been in the oven for 3 decades at least, but I would argue 6 decades.
>>542574498Wow a Polish retard who sucks ZOG toes, what a surprise
>>542575031What a retarded statement.>>Well I mean he didn't do anything except the literal action that makes the gun go off.
>>542566450>...could reach $7 a gallon by the end of this month.So, 2 more weeks?
>>542566450>I'm actually getting scared now.Liberal shill detected.
>>542566450All the US needs to do is nuke israel, or start the global shiah, there is no other solution
>>542576574*shoah
