If the white race is so superior then how come they got their shit pushed in by nomadic bugmen at a time in history when personal combat prowess had a tangible effect on victory?Any of them that encountered the Mongols (a fucking advance scouting party led by Subutai no less - if the Khan hadn't died he could have BTFO whitey all the way to the Atlantic) they described it in terms more akin to a force of nature or an act if God rather than a conventional opponent.A-are the Mongolians the true master race all along?
>>542608301>white race>SlavsPick one.AFAIK, Mongols never managed to make it into western Europe, so they never actually conquered any true White lands. Eastern Europe isn't White. Never has been.
>>542608301because bugmen are based. I have zero issue with east asians. they're smart, civilization builders, and are the least violent race on earth. the brown races can all die though.
>>542608301>literal horse zerg>get raped as soon as they run into actual whitesWtf are you even talking about? Their horses did all the work.
>>542608301They are superior because western governments view them as the greatest threat when they commit the least crime because they're smarter and more capable than anyone else. White men are the only demographic who actually matters for freeing humanity and empowering the common man. Every single other group all collectively steal from taxes instead of paying in and very obviously have the goal of enslaving the real tax payers and installing themselves as "high caste" like in their shitholes they come from where the entire middle class has servants.Thats why you never ever hear about anyone besides white men building great things that everyone loves, because white men actually have to do work and every other lazy parasite is chasing the highest caste DEI fake job they can get their entire lives. Movies and AAA games are all trash now that lazy entitled non-whites and women are being put in charge of everything and these low IQ arrogant vermin truly believe they're going to replace white men and inherit this great successful society when they're too much of adult children to even make a decent video game and thats why they had to flee the shitholes they came from.I live in a country that forces big companies to hire these rats and I keep my company small for that reason, 30 years ago I would've had hundreds of employees who can all afford families.China would be importing this DEI trash if they had any value, very obviously they are voter cattle and urgently needed in the West by the epstein pedophile class to rig elections and ensure native populations are enslaved. Thats why fake jobs exist.
>>542609953>Their horses did all the work.Horses and arrows. They didn't fight like actual men. They shot arrows, and then fled. Shot arrows and then fled. Rinse and repeat. Sure it worked, but it was the most cuckish way of fighting battles.
>>542610437>muh honour
>>542608730fat amerimutt
>>542610261white people were also the only ones that have a proper race, and the only ones that can be considered aryan. because all others assimilated all subhumans they enslaved and raped. thats why theyre all brown with brown eyes. mongols are even part midgets. its the same story with all brown "races", they all got assimilated by their conquerors who were already assimilated mutts, their armies are always comprised of conquered slaves.
>>542608301That never happened and you can’t prove it. The only people who managed to conquer Europe were Germanic Vikings.
>>542608730>whites lost the space raceKek.
Mongols would've been curb stomped in Western Europe. They were only successful in areas where they could graze their horses.
>>542610984They got their shit beat in by Poolanders.
>>542609953They slaughtered best army Europe could muster in that era; with French Hospitaliers and Muscovite Heavy Cavalry. If Gengish Khan had not died they would've went more west from Poland.>>542610437Not completely true, they were just better. They were almost always outnumbered on the battlefield, but they had better steel, better tactics, better horses, better warriors and most important: logistics. Their heavy cavalry and siege weaponry were even more deadly. These guys were just stone cold killers with great discipline and generals.
>>542608301>rangecucks It's class not race that granted them advantage
>>542613512West Europe was fighting over provinces and castles with court schemes and who gets what castle. There was simply no teamwork there to be had; and the best men were already dead in the Crusades. Few of the Knight Templars actually roused some troops to fight the Mongols in East Europe but they suffered defeat.
>>542608730another example of why "white" is self-defeating. remove all the browns from the world and whites would turn on each other, never finding peace.
>>542608301what wars did india win?
>>542608730we have probably only language with word for slave coming from aryan instead of slav
>>542610984GRRM is a fat nihilist who will die alone. Thats what his worldview gets you
>>542610984This is what becomes so absurd. Honor. Were the Mongols honorable when they were cannabalizing chinks and throwing rotten bodies over the walls? Were Ottomans honorable when they used cultural subversion and slavery? Were the Britians honorable when they used mustard gas? Was America honorable when they used atom bombs and now advanced theatre orchestration with AI?
>>542608301Japan's defensive strategy against the Mongol force—comprising 4,000 warships and 140,000 troops—was to hold the coastal defense line, prevent the Mongols from establishing a base on land, and wait for a typhoon to strike. An average of 25 typhoons occur in East Asia each year.Japan fought the Mongols for two months; the Mongols failed to establish a land base, and their warships were sunk by a typhoon.Good job, samurai.
>>542614742In the First Mongol Invasion, they got Tsushima by surprise and slaughtered everyone, using the island to stage the 'real' invasion to Japan. However, the Japanese were warned, and what was waiting for the Mongols were hundreds of years of tradition in sword arts - practiced by gloryhound rivals in the same death cult. The nips literally did suicide bombings, swimming the unsure ocean with sharks to burn the relief ships.The Second Invasion was also a disaster to Mongols for thousand reasons, but simply put: The Japanese were prepared.
>>542613339And Germanic Vikings were conquered by arabs and niggers
>>542608730
>>542613753Man you have such a simplistically bad view of history i'd suggest you stop sharing your opinion on it.
Even Indians are effortlessly conquering white countries
>>542608301>personal combat prowess>mongolstheir tactics were defined by attacking in groups you retard. read about their invasion of japan instead of spitting out bog-standard anti-white nonsense
>>542613609>They slaughtered best army Europe could muster in that era; with French Hospitaliers and Muscovite HeavyAnon, Moscow was a fucking town in the 1230's. That's not an exaggeration, it was about 80 years old and a little fort with a wooden pallisade.
>>542615206Good times create weak men. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>542615341You call it bad but its correct. Europe in that era was all court and schemes. You really think Europe in that era would've bury their hatchets and be some le hella EBIC Avengers team? Fucking idiot.
>>542608301didn't you see the video of that stocky middle aged buryat that absolutely raping the young tall blond ukrainian dude?
>if the white race is so good then why did millions of horseback raiders take a tiny chunk of europe for a few decades before they were expelled daily reminder that russia has held mongolian territory for 400 years
>>542615567>Because familes schemed about castles, that means they'd kill each other rather than deal with a foreign invader.Ignore the fact that Europe stopped going after itself on numerous occasions to deal with external threats.Also ignore the fact the Mongols lost and fled east, so obviously everything you're saying is fucking nonsense. But i'm going to guess you're a Russian expat who fled the draft which is why you're pro mongol, its what your people are.
>>542608301They never touched the actual whites though. Mongols under Subutai wrecked the rusnigger principalities (modern russia/ukraine/belarus/ half-asiatic mix already), smashed hungary & poland raids, rolled over kwarezmian empire (iran/uzbekistan/afghanistan/turkmenistan), the abbasids (iraq), song china, and a bunch of other steppe nigger tribes. All of that is either turkic, persian, arab, chinese, or easternmost fringe of EU that was already mongol adjacent and/or heavily mixed. They never hit the core of western europe, no france, no england, no germany proper, no scandinavia, no low countries. The moment they got close after Mohi the Great Khan died and the whole army had to turn around for the kurultai. If that hadn't happened maybe they'd have tried, but they didn't, the places they actually BTFO map almost 1:1 onto modern non white or heavily mixed countries. So the "force of nature" meme can only apply to the easterners and the middle east.
>>542615492I never stated it was some metropolis you doofus, it was a heavily fortified frontier town that was burned in 1238 when the Mongols got there. I was just stating a fact what troops were there to stop them, since they were what they could muster. There were Knight Templars too which i forgot to mention, and they all died.>>542615705They fled to East when Gengish died, they were not bested in battle. A decade later Kublai Khan would finish the job and vassal Middle-East, Kiev, and more.
>>542615131>were hundreds of years of tradition in sword arts - practiced by gloryhound rivals in the same death cult.No, swordplay only really developed in Japan during the Muromachi period (mid 1300's to 1500's). Like Katana legitimately don't predate the period, they had tachi, greatswords used to fight cavalry, but archery was their martial tradition.
>>542615860It was Ogedei who died Not Chingis. And they never even got through Eastern Europe at any point in time, so you're still 100% wrong.You're embarrassing
>>542615860>it was a heavily fortified frontier town that was burned in 1238 when the Mongols got there. I was just stating a fact what troops were there to stop themNigger. It's a town. You're a retard you claim them Muscovite has any bearing on their quality, it's a few hundred people at most.
>>542615899Fucking idiot.Kamakura period started in 1192; the most fucking essential era of the Samurai. It was well developed as a social class and into social hierarcy.Read a fucking book.
>>542615860>They fled to East when Gengish diedActually Mongolian chroniclors recorded that Subutai didn't know about it until their journey back to Karakorum. He was pragmatic and smart enough to realize sraying in Hungary with an expeditionary firce wasn't a longterm plan.
>>542616084Nigger, Samurai didn't fight with swords until later. Go on, fucking tell me when the Japanese consider the Katana to be developed?
>>542616084Samurai of the late 12th Century are nothing at all like the Samurai people think of in the much later part of the "middle ages". Hell almost every "Samurai" of the 1200's is a bandit, criminal, murderer, or violent lunatic, and that was by intention due to Japanese Taboo on Violence from the era.You really do not know anything about any topic you keep bringing up in here.
>>542616193>>542616084Ohh and like the other guy said, Samurai didn't use swords, they were mounted horse archers for hundreds of years.
>>542615860>it was a heavily fortified frontier town that was burned in 1238 when the Mongols got there.No it wasn't retard. Moscow barely even existed. Even in the 14th century it wasn't anything.
>>542609850I mean most of that would be true if we weren’t specifically talking about the mongols who have never built shit.
>>542616400Well it was a defended town. It was essentially a Slav motte and bailey, calling it defensive is a lie. Same as saying they contributed any meaningful 'heavy cavalry' presence.
>>542616322>Samurai didn't use swords,They did use Tachi, but that was to fend off cavalry. It's like a glorified pike.
>>542616638I should've said they didn't use swords in the way an average person thinks about Samurai/Katana
>>542615206And Mongolia is a shitty poor third world country getting spit roast by Russia and China.
>>542608301the mongols back then were much whiter. look up the scythians, they learned herding from whites who later abandoned the steppe because it was/is a shit place to live.>t.actual half gook former nomad
>>542608301>entire strategy is ragebaiting with horsesWhich turned into whitey inventing guns so they couldn’t run away. Moot (rip) point
>>542616726Yeah true, they used Chinese styled Tsurugi. Which were straight blades and were just an arming sword when you couldn't use your bow. Japanese culture while very old in a lot of ways didn't really diverge much from mainland Chinese until the 1300's onwards.
>>542616827>And Mongolia is a shitty poor third world country getting spit roast by Russia and China.By definition it's 2nd world.
>>542608301>he could have BTFO whitey all the way to the AtlanticNo. The terrain becomes more difficult and euros had stone castles.
>>542608301Why do we have to keep going back and forth with you faggots about shit like this? Are you retarded?Just because bugmen won the battle doesn't mean they wont the war;Whites created everything in civilization that matters today and then some including the language you are speaking, the internet you are using, germ theory, we put 12 men on the moon. "If white man so great why come [cherry pick xyz]" Stfu
>>542608301As a white man, I respect the horde-era Mongols. I would actually consider them a contender for master race of earth. They balanced unstoppable power and battle prowess with administrative ability and respect for natural law.In "The Lightning and the Sun" by Savitri Devi, she places Genghis Khan in a trinity with Akhenaten and Adolf Hitler.
Haha post noseFlag is a wage of time with you people, I want to see the nose
Common minds are too obtuse to comprehend that people have not been the same in every historical age.The Romans of ancient times were much different from Italians of today.So Mongols of medieval times must have been fierce, while their descendants of today are like cats compared to lions
>>542617202they looked at city dwellers as decadent and weak. with regard to the khans in the far east, the chinese were actively subverting their clan structure and causing constant unrest among the tribes. so basically they were getting jewed and decided to subjugate all sedentary tribes to prevent it ever happneing again.
>>542609850They eat dogs there subhuman simple as.
>>542610984Where's your fat Santa's wow book
>>542609850>>542617603steppe people aren't bugmen but I wouldn't call them advanced either. kind of like people on the rez in the US accept a lot wealthier and more shifty
>>542613799None they started the black plague though and the Mongols brought it through the white nations
>>542608301why do you brown people keep looking for an excuse to exist in white countries?
>>542617515The Chinese had a point though, nomads have been raiding them since man first tamed the horse. Its probably one cultural point we here in the West really do share just wholesale with China. Hell both our cultures dealt with the same people for thousands of years. Scythians, Huns(all four groups of them), Turks,Mongols ect...
>>542617712They are savages look what they did to Genghis as a kid and they rape women repeatedly that's not the markers of a civilization
>>542617737herding vs farming was the only "lifestyle choice" for people back then if you wanted to live in a huge group. worldview and culture aside the two have always not coexisted very well, especially farmers and sheep/goat herders. they STILL get into disputes>>542617896always thought wife stealing was a pretty based tradition, kek
>>542608730Mongols defeated an army comprising Western European crusader knights, Teutonic knights, knights Hospitaller, etc.https://youtu.be/CervImP0YS0?list=PLez3PPtnpncQzGwDhAmI28i7uTjtKCgYX&t=653Youtube blocked sound for the first 2mins because it used an old Medieval music:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttlOOV5Y57E
>>542618009Well farmers Vs Herders is the oldest conflict crossing every single culture known to man.Then the white man invented guns and suddenly being a horde of herders was no longer viable.
>>542618101Naw, air power and better mechanized cavalry. Still most popular way of hunting down problem nomads on horses is shooting them from helicopters. tanks also didn't help.
>>542618208Except nomadic hordes were crushed long before helicopters anon.
>>542608730fpbp historylets btfo
>>542618739Long before guns too. Novgorod were attacked for protecting nomadic hordes the Mongols considered their subjects. The element of surprise was their biggest advantage, Novgorod assumed the tribes were a buffer. After Genghis died the tribes who had developed the most under western influence pushed back and won.
>>542618739>>542619591they were taken down by the good life eventually, every time they got rich. nobody wants to herd cattle in the cold if they dont have to
>>542615131I believe the first Mongol invasion was intended as a reconnaissance mission and a show of force.What I described was the second invasion; it involved a massive fleet, yet the samurai were well-prepared and fought effectively.
>>542620294and then the shogunate tanked the economy trying to pay them
>>542608301>MUH SUPERORIITY!!!! >WE WYTEZ ARE TEH BEST AT WAR!!!They are the most servile, easy to replace, docile people on earth. They are ACTUALLY being replaced. In real time. And all they do is shitpost about muh guns and do nothing. It’s actually hilarious. Being “proud” over it too. Something they have ZERO control over nor actively contributed too.
>>542615485And timmy had no defense for this. Nor did the Arab or the chink. Hence, the mongol ubermensch curbstomped his way to establishing an empire that stretched from the outskirts of Austria to China. And you're still seething about it all these years later.
>>542615627Daily reminder that the Mongols aren't locked in with the Russians. The Russians are locked in with them.
>>542608730Even with your race divide D&C bullshit, they beat western westerners too.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Legnica
>>542615492Moscow was irrelevant yes but every other town around there still existed, and Kiev had a population of 40k making it one of the largest towns north of the Alphs at the time.They had heavy knights too, Druzhyna, but that didn't help nor did the Teutonic ones help either in Legnica.
>>542622015>they beat western westerners>they beat polescmon anon why are you acting dumb?
>>542616400>Moscow barely even existed. Even in the 14th century it wasn't anything.1299 - Metropolitan of Kiev and all Russia moves from Kiev to Vladimir1325 - Metropolitan of Kiev and all Russia moves from Vladimir to Moscow
>>542613761This is such a retarded lib take
>>542608730Attila crossed the Rhine. He was from the Xiongnu.
>>542622015Poles and Moravians are Slavs. I guess the Knights Templar count as western, but they made just a small component of that battle.
>>542625304you literally see it in every thread discussing who gets to be white what are u talking about
>>542621014you're illiterate
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>>542627183Glowies, can you make your gay ass darpa bots less cringe?
>>542625369He was white and highly educated based on Roman tradition. He was born in Gothic Hungary, spoke Gothic and Latin and knew the history of Roman battles. His military command was Heruli (the warwolves), a mercenary tribe originally from Denmark who were given land in Ukraine and later became a big influence on the emergence of the "viking age". They're mentioned by name in most Roman battles despite usually numbering only a few hundred, sometimes on both sides. Renowned mercenaries but poor administrators. Odoacer (Auðvakur) was Heruli from the same area as Atilla.It's interesting that the closest relative to the Icelandic horse today is the Mongolian horse, they're smaller, smarter and easier to fire arrows from but slower and can't take as much weight like needed for charging with fully armored knights.
>>542618068If you want a comparison of the Mongol vs. European weapons + armourhttps://youtu.be/CervImP0YS0?list=PLez3PPtnpncQzGwDhAmI28i7uTjtKCgYX&t=65
>>542608301Mongol bow tech mogged everything else in existence. It had all of the power of a 6 foot long bow, but was small and light enough to use from horseback.
>>542609850Mongolians are like Chinese Churkas, dumb as shit and were only good at raping and pillaging until they met Europeans who kicked their shit in.
>>542631471The Iranians, Chinese, and Koreans all developed the same tech.
Mongols did destroy Western Europe. They sent in rats and plague.
>>542608301Europeans defeated the Mongols
>>542613609Wrong. Those victories were because Europeans didn't know not to engage them on a plain. Once they stopped doing that they defeated the Mongols
>>542608730slavs won against whites in ww2 though which means whites would also lose against mongols
>>542625548we have diversity and we don't have peace eitherthat's why it's retarded
>>542625374>they made just a small component of that battlethey were like 80% of the army lol
>>542631680isnt their IQ like 100?
>>542610261I have never heard of any canadian law mandating that companies hire specific ethnicities or races. Can you expand on these claims? Or else you're lying.
What did medieval mongols contribute to humanity other than conquer,rape and pillage?Other empires such as the british empire gave humanity the industrial revolution, trains, abolished slavery and civilized half the worldOther civilizations/empires of the world had institutions,technology,development, human flourishing while the steppe was just empty, no development and a bunch of tentsThe roman empire and ancient greece had civilization and with their intellectualism paved the road to today's comforts and flourishing such as computers, electricity. In the short term medieval mongols rapidly conquered but in the long term, ultimately mongols still had no civilization just vast nothing while europe had civilization.Naturally a people who could only learn to sustain themselves by stealing,conquering and raping others would never build anything themselves, never contribute or never do anything because why work hard when you can easily take someone else's hard work?Modern mongolia was built by russians, before russians came it was an empty medieval buddhist theocracy, no electricity, no plumbing, no infastructure, no education, no one was literate(despite modern reinterpretations that we wuz using mongol script and sheii), name anything modenr and it didnt exist until russians showed up and built a modern country here.Honestly modern mongolia is more post soviet than a continruation of medieval mongols because everything that makes up a modern state is inherited from what the russians built here
Whitey are too busy oppressing and throwing their own into jails to be a force to be reckoned with.
>>542634390but russians are mongol rapebabies in that sense all their accomplishments are mongol accomplishments and mongolians just went back to civilize themselves
>>542634821we wuz khans and invented russia and sheii
>>542608301mongols used horseback archery it wasnt a straight up melee fight
>>542608301have you ever wondered why its only the whites who keep going on and on about their superiority. deep down they know its pure luck and clever scheming that got them at the top. its temporal anomaly that requires constant re-enforcement.
>>542632002Europeans never totally defeated the Mongols on the First Invasion. Medieval warfare with chivalry was massive disaster for Europe, it was not suited to fight the much superior, faster and skilled Mongol tactics.Second Invasion they held better but still, pretty much everything East from Poland to Greece was vassalled to the Mongol Empire; which would later fall to infighting.
