This vegan woman has spent about 2 weeks locked in a farrowing crate in public to protest pigs being kept in them. She has about another week to go. She is locked in this crate in public day and night and other volunteers occasionally check up on her or put a tent over her crate so she can relieve herself. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/bIRbgjlJU_s
Actually immure her as a joke. Brick her up and leave her in a forest.
>>542627792Lots of people have visited her because they saw videos of her posted on TikTok. She is still in the same spot and still locked up in the cage if anyone wants to interview her In this video her mom is visiting her https://m.youtube.com/shorts/2qlsqjDBkf4
>>542627792>go to crate>pick up crate and load it into truck>drive offfree hole.
>>542627895Part 3 here https://m.youtube.com/shorts/tM8Gz4lPkggTheres more videos on other platforms like tiktok I think
>>542627906>get a shovel>backyardfree holeless nagging
>>542627951Part 4 last one I can find rn it was posted on September 13th / yesterday and she has been locked in cage for nearly 2 weeks and still has another week to go https://m.youtube.com/shorts/AJNwRjUFHy0
>>542627893if its not in public it isnt productive
>>542627792Can you milk her?
Pig farrowing crates are extremely cruel. The pigs literally can’t turn around for weeks straight.The woman in the video is actually much better off because she has people looking after her and she is smaller so she is less crammed
>>542628154she hasn’t given birth recently or ever as far as I know BUT it’s not uncommon for piglets to bite their moms nipples and drink her blood instead of her milk
>>542627792unironically based as fuckPeople with no empathy towards animals must be purged from this universe, their genes wiped forever so they may never replicate
>>542627893>immureHow the fuck do you know this word??
>>542628314nta i know of that historical practice a little and I’ve seen at least 1 drawing of it but I had to look up the word
>>542627792does she shower? Does she wear deodorant? How does she poop?
>>542628314I bet he reads Malazan
>>542627792She should be tied up like a good little piggy in that crate.
caged woman
>>542627792>put a tent over her crate so she can relieve herself.shows a lack of commitment as far ass I'm concerned
>>542628387She washes herself (including her hair) inside the crate, uses the toilet with a privacy tent, and no public details address deodorant specifically.From coverage of Michelle Farnham’s protest (e.g., Manchester Evening News reporting on her setup in Trafalgar Square):She has been washing herself from within the bars of the crate, along with brushing her teeth. Washing her hair is one of the activities she finds most awkward under public scrutiny. This is not a full standing shower—space is too limited (crate height ~43 inches / ~1.1 m, so she can’t stand upright fully)—so it is sponge-style or limited rinsing with water and supplies provided by the volunteer team that monitors her around the clock.For the toilet (including pooping), volunteers put up a tent over the crate to give her privacy. She uses the bathroom inside the enclosure with that temporary shielding; the same tent is also used when she needs to rest. She has noted that she still feels heavily observed even then.No detailed public statements or reporting specifically mention whether she wears deodorant (or similar personal products). Hygiene is managed on a basic, supported basis with volunteer help for supplies and privacy, consistent with the temporary, public nature of the stunt. The overall point of the action is to approximate (while still having human support and an exit plan) the extreme confinement sows experience in commercial farrowing crates.
how much to piss or coom on her?
>>542627792if it's good enough for a vegan foid it's obviously good enough for uncooked bacon. the farrowing crates shall continue
>>542627792She went home at night, had normal food and water, took showers and shits in a toilet... and she's supposed to be committed? This is a stunt, somebody's art project.
You can save her anon
>>542627906Yeah but the cost to feed and keep is more than the cost to rent a willing woman here and there. It’s not worth it. Math is math.
Look you can see some melon balls right next to her, she's like meditating in yoga pants. She should be naked, and her visitors should be encouraged to have sex with her, as she presents her pussy like a sow in heat.This is just a vapid hoax.
It can't be that bad if she can spend weeks in it. Kind of undermines her own argument.
love you Michelle
>>542627893Most likely some of the inmurement legends throughout Europe started as tribal pranks
>>542627792Finally, crate training for women
>>542628640She's not locked in. If she has to poop, she gets out and goes to the toilet.It's a vapid stunt.
>>542627792Some indian will pick it up and carry it to his basement.
>>542628305You can kill and eat animals and still have empathy for them. Are you retarded?
>>542628573pigs are much bigger.>>542628585Where is your proof of that? It’s in public so if she did that someone could see her entering or exit cage.
>>542628675not in india where shell be shipped to the highest buyer
>>542628314Voracious reading when I was a child for there be no other entertainment for a boy born in the late 90s in Singapore if he doesn't know the wonders of the dial-up internet but lived close to a public library. The consequence is severe autism.
>>542628675Do you have any proof of that? The only way she could do that is if she leaves the cage while under the tent but she’s still locked up just in a bigger cage at that point
>>542628703People with empathy for animals oppose gestation crates.
>>542628696there is lots of volunteers around watching her and shes on camera
These white foids think animal cruelty and racism are the worse atrocities in the world. Meanwhile they murder their children and have infinite abortions.
>>542628756>Do you have any proof of that?You can tell, there's no shit everywhere. There's no proof she's locked in. All there is, are a few Tik Toks, probably filmed by her friends.If you think that a few Tik Toks makes a stunt like this real, you're hopeless AND stupid. But plainly she's not been in there 12 days. There'd be shit and piss and maybe menses EVERYWHERE. She's clean and happy and doing yoga.
>>54262885173 fuckibg million abortions per yearAnd we are expected to feel empathy for women (lol)
>>542628798kill every non-white and fag on the planet and we can all eat only the best treated animals because we won't need absurd scale
>>542627893Rarely does someone's vocabulary impress me.Yet here we are. Very well done.
>>542628884>>542628851https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/abortion30% of all pregnancies are aborted at the hands of women. If 6 gorilluin Jews is the worst atrocity in history, then Women do 12.3 WW2 scale genocides per year. Every year.
Why would somebody do a stunt like this? Are there people dumb enough to care? I mean other than other vegans?
>>542627792She's a fucking idiot. These people advocating for ethical treatment of animals won't even address picrel, but they'll only try to upset normal people for doing normal things.
>>542628969Women aren't serious people, so other women will yaas qweeeeen her on the way to the abortion clinic to ensure she doesn't accidentally have consequences for her actions
>>542627792Impressive. Pathetic scum who would never fight for a cause.may ridicule her but these "people" are less than nothing. Eating/killing animals is a sick ideology that must be eradicated.
>>542628873Because they put a tent over it and she can put the pee and poop in bags or bottles and the volunteers collect the pee and poop and tent. Theres also local news footage and public presence in a high foot traffic location. Anyone is free to film a video of her leaving or entering the cage or tent over the cage
>>542628969Have you ever seen a nigress or chink woman do this shit? No. Only white foids with mental problems virtue signaling to other mentally ill white foids.
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>>542629069>Because they put a tent over it and she can put the pee and poop in bags or bottles and the volunteers collect the pee and poop and tent.Dude just stop being retarded, there's no proof of any of this other than a handful of tiktoks. It's just yet another perfomative female vegan stunt, nobody cares. It's fake as hell.
If strangers could pound her shit-covered pussy hole any time they wanted, like a real caged sow? That's a different story, that's news.
So like if I walk up and piss on her can she do anything about it?
>>542627792Would be hilarious if some sand nigger threw acid on her in the weeeee hours on the morning. If you dont eat Bacon you are the enemy
>>542628314>>542628950It was invented by the hardcore metal band Emmure who popularized it throughout the Americas
>>542629160There is proof besides tikoks. Stop lying or being willfully ignorant https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-living-like-pig-three-34597081https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/26539899.woman-living-pig-crate-expose-reality-uk-farming/#:~:text=Michelle%20Farnham%2C%2028%2C%20climbed%20into%20a%20farrowing,wide%20(83cm)%20and%2043%20inches%20tall%20(1.1m).
>>542627792>>542628453women are willingly caging themselves and ur blackpilling
>>542627792Pigs don't wear clothes dummy.
>>542628960bullshitvits nothing till it becomesyour thinking sacred of some pump n dump there's no life, its not a livid being
>>542628969Not everyone is worthless npc trash like you
>>542629160https://www.newsflare.com/video/920543/animal-rising-campaigner-michelle-farnham-sits-inside-a-pig-farrowing-crate-outside-the-national-gallery-in-trafalgar-square-during-a-protest-against-intensive-pig-farming
>>542629341By that reasoning every animal is just a collection of cells behaving in a biologically pre-programmed way including you. Can I abort you?If it wasn't a life you wouldn't get double murder for killing a pregnant woman
>>542629073Not surprising that a piece of shit like you would attack humans and praise npcs
>>542628749You alright booksperg
>>542627792She looks delicious.
>>542627792>This vegan woman has spent about 2 weeks locked in a farrowing crate Okay. We should do this for all women.
>>542628616What? The calorie needs of a woman sitting doing nothing isn't as high.
cmon just set her on fire already :DD HhUuRRAAYY!!!
>>542628675Oh, so like every single 'magic' stunt where they claim to be psuedo stylites like David Blaine. You're not 'suspended for days' if you take a break every 5 hours.
https://www.mylondon.news/news/real-life/woman-living-pig-crate-trafalgar-34595348>A team of volunteers care for her around the clock, working in shifts to ensure she remains safe and has everything she requires, including food, water, and buckets. Vegan activist Michelle, from Hertfordshire, is undertaking the challenge to highlight the conditions in which mother pigs are kept.>>542629450https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH3vrevU9o [Open]Abortion pills which can be easily obtained and ordered online work to to 14 weeks legal in all fifty statesThe earliest case for which I believe the precautionary principle should hold was around 43-45 days. Which comes out to be 6.1-6.4 weeks.The fetal brain begins to develop around 3-5 weeks gestation. So I am okay with abortions prior to that timeframe.It's hard to say what the levels of sentience equate to at each week. But I wouldn't not assume this is a miniscule amount of sentience. Many EEG brain patterns observed in fetal brains as early as 6.1-6.4 weeks ( high voltageslow waves with superimposed fast activity) are comparable to mature birds, mature frogs, mature rabbits and the mature marmot. We can even observe sleep spindles in the fetal brain this early.Does this prove the same degree of sentience? No. Does this give us reason to take the precautionary principle with respect to this degree of sentience? Yes
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>>542627792>woman spends 2 weeks in metal cagenow she knows what my penis goes through
>>542629069It is not large enough for her to stretch out or stand in, she hasn't been in there for days without respite. I guarantee it. You have to be a monk or have severe ptsd to be a stone for any length of time
>>542628675>Michelle Farnham, 28, is spending 21 nights in the 43-inch tall farrowing crate, situated in one of London's most bustling tourist destinations. Since climbing inside on September 1, she has been sleeping, brushing her teeth, using the toilet, and even washing herself from behind the bars.She’s been locked in this crate in a very high foot traffic location and with multiple news outlets and social media reportings for 2 weeks and I am not aware of any locals disputing that she’s been in the crate / tent the entire time. You are just making baseless accusations
>>542628749my favorite way to dispatch someone is the oubliette.no fanfare, no show, just a hole in the ground that you throw them down to forget about them.dying of thirst with broken legs in a narrow hole standing on the remains of the last guy that they threw down is a bad way to go.
>>542628210>>542627792They say the same thing about those a-frame farrowing shelters for pigs. You have to put them in something like that or the fucking retard pigs will sleep on their babies and kill them. Also, pigs really don’t move a lot unless there’s food to go to. I’d imagine most of those pigs honestly don’t give a fuck.
>>542629800If she was truly in there 24/7, a migrant would have raped her by now
>>542629824>you have to or they roll over and kill their infantsLike some human sows. NEVER SLEEP WITH YOUR BABY IN A BED, RETARDS
>>542629690Im ok with abortions too and I agree we should set a cognitive baseline for when abortion should be acceptable.If killing children because of a lack of cognition is acceptable, we should be ok with aborting animals for food and people with brain damage so we don't have to keep fucking paying for their healthcare
>>542627792impressive
>>542629761Yeah that is the point just like how pigs cant turn around for weeks but at least she can turn around since shes smaller. Yes, she can lie down fully inside the crate. The farrowing crate used in her protest measured 83 inches (approx. 6 ft 11 in / 2.1 m) in length, 32 inches (83 cm) in width, and 43 inches (1.1 m) in height. MyLondonBecause the crate is nearly 7 feet long, she has enough longitudinal space to stretch out and sleep/lie down flat. However, due to its dimensions:Height (43 in / 1.1 m): She cannot stand upright. MyLondonWidth (32 in / 83 cm): Her ability to turn around or move side-to-side is severely constrained.https://www.animalrising.org/post/woman-to-spend-21-days-and-nights-in-pig-farrowing-crate-in-trafalgar-square
>>542629947You do know domesticated pigs pretty much sit and wallow most of the day anyway, right? As another anon has said, if the sows aren't held in place, they kill the nursing piglets. This cunt is free to try to wrangle all the heavy sows and make sure they don't kill the piglets for free
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>>542627893classic prank
>>542629824They do mind it they go insane. They cut their teeth and tails for a reason, because they go insane in the conditions they are kept in .
>>542629947It should also be pointed out A PIG can stand in such a sized crate.
>>542630066You're free to provide a better solution to prevent sows from killing piglets.
>>54262779221 days? who will have sex with her ?
>>542627792Imagine the smell.
>>542628640This, it's like being bed ridden except you can kind up and hunch over. The average person in a nursing home has a worse experience.
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>>542630127I’ve got a great oneNot raping / artificially inseminating them.Then there’s no piglets and no need for farrowing crates. Plenty of vegan animal sanctuaries demonstrate this. Also >Modern alternative designs ("free-farrowing" systems) attempt to protect piglets with heated creep areas and protective rails while giving the sow room to turn around.
>>542630154>In LondonHomeless niggers and stray animals (via rape).
>>542629033that is why I cannot be around homeless people.every fucking time I am around them, one of them smacks their dog around, I step up and smack them, and then I get jumped by all of their stinky friends. it's just not worth it. you can't teach these people.just fucking kill them all.
>>542628367The only time I ever encountered the word is when we discussed Edger Alan Poe's works in class.It's very rare to run into it now because who the fuck ENTOMBS stuff into walls now a days? Especially in America with cardboard houses.
>>542627792>look at me look at me look at me I'm a foid and I'm going to get self righteous about something that is absolute bullshit look at me look at me! are you looking? at me? because you should be. Looking at me I mean. GIVE ME ATTENTION NOW!!!just when I thought I couldn't possibly have deeper contempt for holes ...
>>542630205>don't eat meat I'll eat you next if you keep suggesting such retarded shit. >attemptSo, it's not as effective and costs more?
>>542630154the simps who wipe her diarrhea stains off the bars. imagine being a faggot vegan.
>>542628305protip: most creatures are predators, especially animals hypocrite
>>542630216Every homeless person with an animal is an abuser. Most of them are kept only for sympathy, if you can't house yourself there's no way you can pay to take care of your dog properly.
>>542630238We can start by entombing vegans as a joke of course
>>542630127Sweden, Switzerland, Norway Completely Banned (Sows must be housed in loose pens or outdoor huts).
>>542630331And it's cheaper and more effective? You seem to be misunderstanding the point is to raise pork
>>542630066>>542630127Like this anon said. Come up with something better. It literally has to be done. I raise organic pasture pigs that are finished in a fucking honeycrisp apple orchard. I sell fancy pork. Sows HAVE to be put in something like that where they can’t roll over or they’ll crush all of their babies to death while they sleep. Then eat them as a tasty snack afterwards.
>>542630249She is suffering greatly and doing so to help animals. She is altruistic and brave.
>>542630282They won't be able to fight off the migrants in London.
>>542627792I'm basically a NatSoc and I would like to remind pol that animal welfare was front and center of NSDAP moral platform.
https://imginn.com/p/Dco16SaErrb/Animal rights activists will never focus on easy problems they can solve. They'll always insist on (you) changing your entire way of life to care about animals on an industrial farm that feeds millions of people. They just want to be disruptive and don't care about utterly senseless animal cruelty with no purpose.
>>542630391>suffering gratelyThere's no proof she's actually in there 24/7>braveShe has people watching her, so brave
>>542630386>or they’ll crush all of their babies to death while they sleep.If that's the case, how did pigs/boars/hogs ever survive before they were domesticated?
>>542630331The outdoor huts are literally those same dimensions instead made as a wooden A-frame that also prevents them from rolling over. You know absolutely nothing about which you speak.
>>542630264It costs more yes. >Higher Capital & Footprint Costs: Free-farrowing pens require 30% to 50% more floor space per sow compared to a traditional crate. Converting an existing barn requires either cutting total herd size or spending significant capital to expand.>Yes, pigs still crush piglets inside traditional farrowing crates. While crates lower the risk compared to open pens, they do not eliminate it entirely. Crushing remains the primary cause of pre-weaning mortality in commercial pig farming, accounting for 20% to 50% of all piglet deaths (roughly 3% to 6% of all live-born piglets)
>>542630468Wild pigs aren't as large and have different behavior. Domesticated cows can't really birth without assistance reliably anymore, how'd they do it before?
>>542630468They have massive litters and maybe 1 or 2 won’t end up crushed. I’d estimate piglet survival rate naturally at about 5%.
>>542630500Okay, so your solution is a non starter, it takes more space and reduces output.
>>542627792The funniest thing to do would be to break out a camping stove, a frying pan, fry some eggs, onions and bacon, and blow the smellz over to her with a fan blower, just out of her reach.
>>542630376no it costs more and is more humane. Not everyone shares your priority in fact most people disagree with you This man was ON VIDEO RECORDING HIMSELF COMMITTING HIS CRIME And was completely acquitted by a jury of breaking into a factory farm to rescue two sick piglets despite overwhelming evidence that he did it. They literally filmed themselves committing their “crimes” and confessed but were still acquitted.Thishttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_7q87fAYbZk 4 minutes and 30 seconds in you can see live footage from courtroom of verdict being read.The animal rescue took place in March 2017 at Smithfield Foods' Circle Four Farms in Beaver County, Utah, and the trial was held in neighboring Washington County, Utah in October 2022.Beaver County is extremely rural, heavily agricultural, and politically conservative. In political elections, both Beaver County and Washington County voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump (winning roughly 80% and 70% of the vote, respectively).Pregnant pigs were locked inside 2 by 7 foot metal gestation and farrowing crates, spaces so narrow the animals could not turn around. Many sows suffered from open pressure sores, were covered in feces, or bit cage bars until their mouths bled from distress. In one instance, a sow's nipples were so torn that her starving piglets were drinking her blood instead of milk.Investigators documented piglets experiencing seizures, dying of starvation, being crushed under their mothers, or falling through metal floor grates and getting trapped beneath. The two piglets rescued by Hsiung (later named Lily and Lizzie) were severely malnourished, infected, and near death.
>>542627792I sometimes wonder the degree to which animals have a conscious awareness and experience of the world. I would hope its very limited, because the suffering inflicted by nature and now by humans is absolutely mind blowing. I eat meat, but to me it seems obvious that we should work to advance artificial meat growth technology so that we can replace the system of demonic torture where we raise billions of living beings with brains and thoughts to then murder.
>>542630522Dogs frequently eat their litters too. It's almost like a litter is a survival strategy to counteract a high death rate
>>542630460>She has people watching herThis is the worst part of it all. If you willingly go into the box, by law of the jungle you are at the mercy of those outside the box.
>>542630577>>542630544
>>542627893>For the love of God, Montresor!
women don't need food they just need constant attention, so this is a perfect stunt.
>>54263031275% of them were abusive as fuck. 25% did the best they could for them and would give their last crumb of food to their dogs.you will make way more money spanging with a dog than just standing there with a sign. a lot of them take advantage of that and use the dogs as props to get more dope money.
>>542630416most of pol is non white. a lot constantly post about “traps” too
>make protests>it's actually set up as a sexual fetish to someoneHmmm...
>>542630578Peta funded a study to burn their bridges with pescatarians and it found fish lack the nerve structure to experience pain tje same as mammals. All animals certainly have the sense of going toward pleasure and away from pain, that doesn't make them sentient. A dog can remember a lot of very specific things, that doesn't make it sentient. I wouldn't eat a dog unless I had to, but that's more because carnivores tend not to taste good. Not eating meat is retarded, it is a dense store of protein and vitamins.
>>542628314how do you not? Illiterate retarded zoomer
>>542630416>I'm basically a NatSocYou aren't fuck all faggot
>>542630723You laugh but that word literally did not exist until anon typed it out
>>542630482In Sweden Switzerland and Norway animal welfare laws strictly mandate that sows must have enough space to turn around at all times during farrowing. Outdoor a frame huts / anrks are a lot wider than farrowing crates and do not lock the pig in placesSloped Wall Guidance: As the sow lowers herself to lie down, her back hits the angled roof mid-descent, forcing her to slide down gradually rather than flopping down unexpectedly.Triangular Safety Pockets: Where a vertical wall creates a flush right angle that traps piglets, the sloped wall of an A-frame leaves a wedge-shaped gap at floor level where small piglets can seek refuge without being pinned.Nest Building: Because the hut is wide enough to turn around in, sows can still gather straw, turn around, and construct natural nests for their litters.https://www.freefarrowing.org/farrowing-systems/outdoor-systems/
>>542630544It’s already finished in multiple countries.
>>542628906Wow all the problems do stem from Jews and niggers (any nonwhites). I'm not being facetious. The image of all the meat in the store being grass fed free range because we don't have to feed a billion niggers reminds me of a utopia I never knew
>>542627792
>>542630578It is a lot. The Cambridge declaration of consciousness and New York update to it totally agree that animals like birds and mammals are conscious to a significant degreeall those Cognitive neuroscientists, neuroanatomists, neurophysiologists, neuropharmacologists, computational neuroscientists, ethologists, behavioral biologists, theoretical physicists, philosophers, comparative psychologists, evolutionary biologists, neurologists, animal welfare scientists, legal scholars, professors of law, public law and human rights lecturers, computer scientists, veterinary professors, environmental studies scholars, chemical and biological engineers, linguists, and chief executive officersAgree that all birds and mammals have a significant amount of consciousnessThey can suffer a lotThey can also experience wellbeinglike me
>>542630703https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NhCxCLZXYtAFish are conscious and can feel pain. So can human fetuses
>>542630578>>542630931What’s the most painful thing that ever happened to you? Seriously take a moment and contemplate it, try, in as much detail as you can, to remember what it was like. Maybe, for a few of you it was childbirth, an experience which, when it takes place without anesthesia, is temporarily completely debilitating. Nothing other than the pain occupies the mind of the sufferer.Perhaps it was getting a tattoo. Someone on Quora summarized the pain of getting a tattoo in the following way:>They hurt.>There are between one and 20 needles being poked through your skin hundreds of thousands of time in a single session. The number of needles will determine the type and intensity of pain. So expect it. The real question is how much will it hurt.I’ve been quite lucky and never experienced any particularly severe pain. I can remember quite a few times I’ve had pretty intense pain, barely eating for two days, having a doctor press down on my infected finger until it popped when I was 8, having a very severe stomach ache, falling out of a treehouse (though remaining in the tree) and banging my chin on the side of it, but nothing has been that bad. I’d guess the worst experience of my life is a lot less painful than a wrist tattoo.The most painful experience that most of us have ever had is classified as disabling pain. This is the sort of pain that’s bad enough that during it you can’t enjoy doing anything else, you can’t, for instance, enjoy a game of chess while giving birth, and that makes it impossible to focus on anything other than the pain. Examples of this kind of pain include a very painful fall, breaking a bone, burning yourself, giving birth, severe dog bites, getting a tattoo, kidney stones, and hemorrhoids.
>imagine the smell138 posts and i'm the first to say it? /pol/ is done, cooked, pack it up.
>>542631059While we often forget about these later, when they’re happening, they feel like the most significant thing in the world. They’re extremely bad, if you offered me $1,000 to get severely bitten by a dog, its teeth ripping off a chunk of my flesh, or have needles pierce my skin hundreds of times, I wouldn’t take the deal. Certainly I wouldn’t undergo childbirth for 1,000 dollars, especially if it was without anestheticSadly, on average, the animals that we eat endure hundreds of hours of this kind of debilitating agony over the course of their life. They endure somewhere on the order of an hour a day of this pain.I’ll just discuss one such case, the case of the egg-laying hen, with the facts gathered from this report. https://welfarefootprint.org/research-projects/laying-hens/Egg-laying hens in conventional farms endure about 400 hours (!!!!!) of this kind of disabling agony. Remember, this is agony about as bad as the worst thing that’s ever happened to you, unless you’ve had an experience as bad as being severely tortured. This is the agony that makes it impossible to think of anything else. The hens endure about an hour of a day of this extremely intense agony.This intense pain comes from many sources including (this list is non-exhaustive):Bone fractures.The majority of hens experience a bone fracture over the course of their life. On average, they have three. Imagine if you broke the same bone three times This is, and I can’t emphasize this enough, what most hens deal with the industry that produces our eggs is so cruel that it breaks the bones of most hens multiple times.In fact, the situation is much worse for hens than it would be for us because the area around their keel bone, which is the most common kind of fracture, has a huge number of nerves. While such experiences in humans usually produce disabling pain for about a day, for chickens, such pain lasts about a week
>>542630990>Doctor (((Avi)))Not listening to a jew. Thems just the rules
>>542631084Often the bone doesn’t heal properly, leading to constant intense agonyInjurious pecking.In a hen's natural environment, she’ll spend most of her time pecking the ground looking for food. In a modern farm, hens can’t do that, so they spend a lot of their time pecking other hens, often leading to severe injury (just imagine that you were being bitten all the time by people surrounding you). It’s not terribly uncommon for hens to be pecked to death (seriously imagine what it would be like for that to happen) or for pecking to affect a hen’s body part known as the vent which is particularly sensitive (in this case, for the males reading this, imagine someone biting your balls). Often this becomes infected.Every one of a hen’s natural behaviors are thoroughly squashed in the farms. Hens cannot make a nest prior to laying an egg, which causes them quite severe distress. Hens are willing to undergo strong electric shocks in order to get a suitable nest, about as strong as the electric shocks they’ll endure in order to get food after being starved for 28 hours (!!!!!). Remember, hens lay an egg roughly daily! This may not seem like a big deal, but only because we don’t appreciate the experience of being a nesting hen; an alien wouldn’t understand why we care about sex so much. Konrad Lorenz, a nobel prize winner summarized:>“The worst torture to which a battery hen is exposed is the inability to retire somewhere for the laying act. For the person who knows something about animals it is truly heart-rending to watch how a chicken tries again and again to crawl beneath her fellow-cage mates to search there in vain for cover”>>542631086Then go read the study with the bottom feeder fish that wouldn’t bottom feed after getting lip injections. It seems pretty obvious it is because bottom feeding would be painful
>>542628453Madam, while you are down there...
>>542627792>open up can of surströmming>put it upwindDevilish...
>>542631086The study you are referring to is Dr. Lynne Sneddon’s landmark 2003 experiment (and follow-up research) on rainbow trout. Researchers injected a mild acetic acid solution (or bee venom) into the lips of fish. Instead of simply reacting with a quick reflex, the fish exhibited complex, prolonged distress behaviors: they stopped feeding, rocked back and forth on the tank floor, and repeatedly rubbed their lips against the gravel substrate and glass walls.Crucially, when the researchers administered morphine to the fish, these behaviors vanished, and normal feeding resumed. This proved the response was a conscious pain experience rather than a simple unconscious reflex (nociception), as analgesics specifically target central pain processing.
>>542628314Have you ever spoken to a Singaporean? It's like speaking to an autistic dictionary, it's great.Pretty sure it comes from latin 'murus' which means 'wall', to 'wall in' then English phrasal verbs just aren't classy
>>542631059I snapped my shin bone in half after coming off a motorbike. No painkiller until the ambulance arrived about 44 minutes laterThey gave me the green whistle and then while high as balls I tried to get the paramedics phone number kek
>>542627792>Oh, those poor pigs must suffer so much!>How would the evil farmers feel if someone did that to them?>I know! I'll lock myself up! THAT'LL show them!Your brain on vegan
>>542631236ouch
>>542629256Holy shit its literally the size of a personal camping tent. The frontal shot made it look like she has almost no room to move around, but she can do push-ups in there. She can even go to the other end and just stand up because there are no bars on top on that end of the cage.What a fucking joke.
>>542627906I'd make her SQUEEEEEEEAL like a pig!
>>542628749This nigga eloquent.
>>542631259lots of social and political movements have used tactics like this such as hunger strikes
>>542628305I've got something way cooler than that.We should genocide all wildlife, dump garbage and feces and radioactive waste in oceans and water streams on an industrial scale until the world is a total shithole as if it isn't already and the stupid faggots that tongue the butts of the matrix overlords with their worship.
>>542631137Whenever you purchase a few cartons of eggs, you are consigning a chicken to living in these horrifying, excruciating conditions. Before you next purchase eggs, or chicken, or most any other animal product, though eggs are likely the worst, remember what the worst experience of your life is like, and vividly consider the fact that your purchase will likely cause others to endure many hours of an experience just as bad.Tragically, the true scenario is much worse than that. Even worse than these scenarios of intense yet bearable pain are experiences that the authors of the report call excruciating pain. This is the sort of pain experienced when a person is brutally tortured or slowly eaten alive or burned to death for minutes; the sorts of pain that, if you’re really brave, you can read about in some detail here. https://www.simonknutsson.com/the-seriousness-of-suffering-supplement They’re horrible enough to take on an almost qualitatively different dimension, something most of us wouldn’t trade for many decades of happy life. This kind of pain is literally inconceivable, it’s so bad that many people who experience it attempt suicide. A hen might experience this right as she’s being trampled and pecked to death.Hens experience, on average, about two and a half minutes of this horrifying agony. The hundreds of hens that the average person eats over the course of their life (and yes, your consumption of eggs does cause more hens to be brought into existence, mistreated, and killed) mean that the average person is probably causing several hours of this unfathomable agony, the sort of agony one experiences in the minutes that they die from burning, boiling, being eaten alive, or suffocating to death; the kind of agony worse than being mauled by a dog, worse than childbirth, worse by orders of magnitude than anything you’ve ever experienced.
>>542631415The kind of experience that, to take a contemporary example, George Floyd probably experienced for the minutes that he was suffocating.The average meat eater causes hours of that!This is why factory farming is such a great moral emergency. It’s the cause of agony beyond what we could hope to imagine. Amounts we cannot fathom of agony that we cannot fathom. It’s not just egg-laying hens that experience this; it’s ubiquitous in the entire factory farming industry. As Ren says in an https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xtcgsLA2G8bn8vj99/reminding-myself-just-how-awful-pain-can-get-plus-an#Miscellaneous_thoughts_and_takeaways article that’s very worth reading, describing her own experience with fairly intense pain:A single broiler chicken experiences fifty hoursofhttps://www.pain-track.org/broilers[disabiling] pain during their lifespan, which lasts 4-6 weeks. There are 69 billion broilersslaughtered each year. That is so many hours of pain that if you divided those hours among humanity, each human would experience about 400 hours (2.5 weeks) of disabling pain every year. Can you imagine if instead of getting, say, your regular fortnight vacation from work or study, you experienced disabling-level pain for a whole 2.5 weeks? And if every human on the planet - me, you, my friends and family and colleagues and the people living in every single country - had that same experience every year?How hard would I work in order to avert suffering that urgent?
>>542631285It’s a real farrowing crate. They are not designed for human women
>>542630879And they don't produce as much pork per space. So the next step you faggots take is saying it uses too much land
>>542630990>the vegan retard disputes the peta funded study because it contradicts themI didn't say they didn't feel pain, you fucking illiterate retard, did I?
>>542631612Both factory farmed and pasture raised animal agriculture is less efficient than growing and eating grains.
>>542631059Nigger, I got molested at every holiday for 7 years as a kid and my family refuses to acknowledge it because my cousin did it despite his conviction for molesting another kid. That's just the psychological pain I've endured. My father liked to beat for the slightest mistake, and your dumb ass can't fathom what it was like when I had regressive fecal behavior because of the molestation. You're a cheap coon that relies on emotional tugging and pseudological bullshit because your ovaries cause you to anthropomorphize anything that's cute. Yeast are alive, better stop drinking too
>>542631415>muh chickensThey're retarded and violent, I've raised them
>>542628314Singaporean education is better than yours on average by considerable objective measure.
>>542631744>I'm going to prove your pointMillions of animals are killed harvesting grain and go to waste. The grain also increases in nutrient value when filtered through an animal
>>542631758Yeast aren’t conscious. How can you determine a 1 year old human child can feel a significant amount of pain and suffering but a healthy young adult pig can’t?
>>542631744dairy farmers in canada dump a "billion gallons" each year to keep the supply steady but restricted enough for prices to remain high, there is no such thing as taking it from calfs
>>542631780There’s plenty of news stories of dumb 3 year old humans shooting dead other even younger children. Doesn’t mean it’d be ethical to factory farm them even if they were born severely and permanently mentally disabled
>>542631852>ignore the extreme human suffering you were just told about because you want me to think I'm equal to beasts of the landNigger, you dumb. Fish aren't concious, chickens maybe. Being multicellular doesn't equate to concious. A fish is retarded enough to bite the same lure it was just caught on
>>542631901>complete grasping at straws and now revealing you are indeed retarded enough to think all animals are 'equal'I read the writings of the guy who wrote peta's 'constitution'. He's a literal beastiality fag that thinks animals can consent. South park wasn't joking about peta. My kike philosophy professor made us read it and I pointed out what a sick fuck he was. I don't take ethics from animal or kid fuckers, sorry
>>542631840Lots of humans die in the production and transportation of grains and meat. Agriculture and trucking are some of the absolute most dangerous jobs per capita The Argentine study on Azara’s akodontAzara’s akodont is a grass mouse native to the Pampas of Paraguay, Uruguay and eastern Argentina. In 2005, a team of Argentine researchers studied the populations of the akodont in wheat and corn fields to understand the effects of harvesting. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167880904002944They found that following harvest, the akodonts ditched the fields and moved to grassy borders between the fields. By being adaptable and moving to a different habitat, they were able to avoid the harvesting machines as well as predators. The study found no evidence to indicate that their numbers were affected in any significant manner by the harvesting process.The German study on common volesJacob and Hempel studied common voles on wheat fields and pastures in central Germany in 2002 to understand how farming practices alter their behavior. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10164-002-0073-8#page-1 In this extensive study, they fitted radio collars to 85 voles and studied them before and after mulching, mowing, harvesting, harvesting and ploughing.As expected, they found that any removal of cover, such as harvesting, mowing, or grazing cattle, decreased the spatial activity and home-range size of the voles, meaning that they didn’t travel far from their homes without the cover of vegetation. But they did not abandon the fields and did not shift their centers of activity. The voles rapidly adapted to the decrease in the height of vegetation and changed their habits, their travel routes and how far they traveled. Jacob and Hempel found that pretty much the only danger that agriculture presented to voles was an increased risk of predation. But they adapted by changing their behavior until the vegetation grew back.
>>542627792Wait how is she in a crate overnight for weeks in England without getting raped or at least pissed on?
>>542632038>muh misdirection strawman >voles are the only animal!Nice samefagging too. You cunts have been around forever, before any chans
>>542631932> •Cleaner wrasse fish have successfully passed the "mirror self-recognition test" using a mirror to identify a mark placed on their body and scraping it off against objects, a cognitive feat previously demonstrated only by primates, elephants, and dolphins.>Fish possess specialized pain receptors (nociceptors) structurally similar to those in mammals, along with A-delta and C nerve fibers that route pain signals into the central nervous system.>Motivational Trade-Offs: Fish alter their behavior based on internal states rather than automatic routines. In choice experiments, fish will willingly leave a preferred, enriched tank to enter an empty, stressful tank if the water in that empty tank contains dissolved pain relief (morphine).
>>542632084She isn't. She obviously gets out when the tent is over her. No 24/7 camera means it's bullshit
>>542632015I don’t know who he is and I haven’t read their constitution. I define veganism as extending human rights to trait equalized animals
>>542632122>I already acknowledged before every animal feels pain>the samefagging nigger does it anyway thinking I careGuessing you got a fat head for headcheese.
>>542628210Pigs are extremely cruel. These are used because they either eat their babies or crush and eat them.These are godawful animals and we shouldn't be farming them for that reason alone.>>542632122A robot can pass the mirror test.
>>542632163>I don't know the people whose bullshit i follow>I define it by the same fucked up shit as the guy who advocates animal fucking We know you're retarded, you don't need to post so much, and samefagging is bad.
>>542627792>Not even nakedFemale protesters are really dripping the ball these days huh. Imagine phoning it in this hard.
>>542629690we should make abortion for physical defects like dysplasia legal>>542629908aborting invalids ought to be encoraged
>>542628305Its not that, its the industrialization of animals. Most people dont have a clue.
>>542632103The English study on wood miceTew and MacDonald http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/000632079390060E studied wood mice between 1987 and 1991 to understand how the harvesting of grain affects their numbers.[1] In one study, they fitted radio collars to 33 wood mice on three different sites. They wanted to find out how many of them are killed when a combine harvester shreds a wheat field. With all the propaganda about mass extinctions caused by crop harvesting, you might think that they were bracing themselves for a mouse apocalypse. Turns out, of the 33 mice, 32 survived the combined harvester – that’s 97% of them! The act of harvesting posed virtually no threat to these mice.The Indonesian study on rice-field ratsIn 2002, an international team of scientists studied the movement and populations of female rats before and after harvest in western Java. http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1249&context=icwdm_usdanwrc This species of rat, rattus argentiventer, is has been creatively named the rice-field rat because it’s found in – you guessed it – rice fields! And this study again shows how intelligent and adaptable rodents are, no matter what species they are or what continent they live on. As we’ve seen, rodents in other places have been observed leaving the fields and moving to the borders of the fields or a nearby forested area. Like their cousins elsewhere, rice-field rats in Indonesia live in wild patches on the borders of farms and venture into cultivated areas for foraging. But when the rice is harvested, the rats actually shifted base into the fields. Why? Because post-harvest, there are large stacks of rice straw left in the fields to dry (they’re used as fodder for cattle). Although the home range of these rats temporarily decreased by 67% and the distance of their forays shrank by 35%, they actually relocated an average of 367 meters to exploit better opportunities available elsewhere!
>>542632240Truth. I can't wait until they reveal the gay gene that was found over 20 years ago.
>>542628873She'd have facial hair by now as well.Probably other signs I'm missing.Does she get to change her clothes too?
Ayways, why do vegan retards always do this?>FACTORY FARMS BAD>STARVE YOURSELFBuy from a farmer you likeThe ethical argument has been had and lost by the *same person making the threads here* on /an/ like 50 timesHe comes here because you people are dumber than he is, and /an/ is where he finds his intellectual equals>>542632163>trait equalizedYep, same fucking faggot. benthams/AY spammer.He's not after truth. He's propagandizing his religion.On repeat.You can prove him wrong.He will say the exact same thing tomorrow.Like a bot.But he's flesh and blood, a hindu pajeet from the ask yourself discord.
>>542632197What the demented vegan isn't telling you is the mark they placed on the fish was NOT arbitrary. It mimicked a parasite. So, congrats, you've identified fish can self identify an infection, not themselves
>>542632190What do you think conscious means?
>>542630249>>542630391They can't help themselves.
>>542632298i had to make this choice personally for my soni wish i couldve met him, but that was 2 years ago and hed already be deadfucking shitty jeet butcher fucked up my wifes womb while he did itfuck this gay earth
>>542632288>the propagandaYou need a piece that isn't blatantly for your own agenda. You've never been in a field in your life, and you've never killed what you've eaten.
>>542632345It's certainly more than the perception firing nerves, you fucking retard.
Total pig death Animal welfare faggotry is leftism
On /an/, he has been repeatedly asked if he would kill one human to save 1000 cowshe has said yes every timeHis ethical system is ontologically evil.He's laying on the shock propaganda to avoid this part.Factory farms are not that great right now. But mankind still requires meat. Man is still greater than all other species on earth. Being vegan for ethical reasons is morally impermissible.
>>542632336Transparent Mark + Mirror > Clear dye injected into throat + mirror present > Fish felt the injection and saw its reflection, but did not scrape its throat.Brown Mark + No Mirror > Brown dye injected into throat + no mirror present > Fish had both tactile sensation and visual stimulus elsewhere in tank, but did not scrape its throat.Mirror Checking > Brown dye injected + mirror present > Fish saw mark in mirror, scraped throat on gravel, then returned to mirror to inspect if the mark was gone.
She's doing more in life than any of you ever will, shitting in your crates shit posting into the void
>>542627792>look at me!!!Stop anthropomorphizing animals
>>542627792Cool, when do they breed her?
>>542632507>mimic conditions of patasite fish has adapted to deal with>think there's nothing reflective underwater that would simulate a mirrorThey proved the fish adapted a strategy to the parasite they mimicked, that's it. Very complex behavior can be instinct and require no reasoning. Going to say the bugs are off limits too? But again, you support beastiality freaks
>>542628305Actual Indian kill yourself. Animals are under our dominion
>>542632330prove wrong? name a contradiction
>>542627792Wow, another perfect example of women being retarded useless pieces of shit. While everyone is working this cunt sits in a cage for some made up retarded shit.
>>542632402You’re still a father. You’re the father of a dead child.
