Fiefdoms when?
>>542637305Realistically Wales and Scotland would just join the EU I think.
>>542637342How would they benefit from that arrangement, though? That doesn't come across as a wise move.
>>542637221what is this fantasy?
It's just brexit again. Basically a decade or two of things being worse and maybe then things will pan out. Anyone for this that was against Brexit is either retarded or just hates the English more than they love their own country.
>>542637342I think that’s the plan; I’m sure that Burnham is a re-joiner. If it occurs expect nice jobs in the EU for those leaders who make it happen.
>>542637221Lol, Karm is real.
>>542637567They are sick of immigrants.
>>542637342and what would be the benefit of that?So that they can throw money at eastern european leeches as well?
>>542637342They cannot. 1. If a single country in the EU vetoes membership a country cannot join. Spain DO NOT want Catalonia getting any ideas. They will block. 2. If Scotland gains independence their plan is to carry on using the British pound which is controlled by the Bank of England until they can join the Euro (same way developing countries sometimes use the dollar). In that time they will have to negotiate their share of the UK national debt… which they owe in a currency they would no longer control. Eek. 3. Scotland demographically has the oldest, fastest, unhealthiest and most drug addicted population in Europe. They import almost ALL of their food and increasingly most of their energy now the North Sea oil is running out. Scotland is old because young educated Scots work in London. All England would have to do is offer Scots English citizenship and hundred of educated Scots could leave.Scottish independence is suicide pact.
>>542637342They don't have a hope of meeting the fiscal standards.
>>542637747So will it be wales, south ireland, scotland and islamic republic of england?
>>542637221>no link>no date>no nothinghttps://4chan.org/faq#sage
>>542637649>Basically a decade or two of things being worse and maybe then things will pan out.Two more decades!
>>542637221This sounds so badass on the face of it, but I know somehow they will find a way to turn this in to the shittiest gayest thing that ever happened. It would be so nice to believe that based lads are rising up and shoving the faggot brigade back into the closet and going TND, but in my lifetime I have never seen government do a single thing correctly or make any situation better than before. I'm sure there's some way that by leaving the UK, they'll be able to import a trillion more jeets and shitskins and dedicate half the GDP to trooning out the kids and opening expedited suicide clinics for white people. Someone tell me I'm wrong. pls.
>>542637726>If a single country in the EU vetoes membership a country cannot join. SpainThey can delay but they can't stop(Spain spent the 1990s trying to stop Poland/Hungary/Czechia etc from joining, but was eventually overruled and told to STFU by Germany and France.)
>>542637711Scottland is the most libtarded and most migrant loving region on this planet
>>542637839https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/14/westminster-first-ministers-uk-celtic-nations-wales-northern-ireland-scotland
>>542637221I am half Scot but only been to Scotland for 3 seconds. Honestly I want them to be out of the UK and stop receiving English taxpayer gibs.
>>542637726>Scotland demographically has the oldest, fastest, unhealthiest and most drug addicted population in Europe.Really? :d
>>542637960True
>>542637221>Independent Wales WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE SHEEP!!
There is so little appetite for independence in Wales it's comical. Scotland is further away than it's been in a long time and will get more unlikely if Burnham's government doesn't do anything especially bad.Northern Ireland will happen at some point but there's no sign of it happening soon. There are a lot of issues with the cost of it joining ROI and the effect on their budget. ROI's eceonomy is 100% dependent on it staying a tax haven and it's pissing off the EU, without the UK in the EU to veto moves against them, they'll lose the status eventually and have nothing to offer.
I DON'T WANT THIS >UK splits>no more union jack >former colonies kvetch in sympathy and ditch their union jack >we get the sun shining out a black arsehole, petrol pride flag
>>542637221>He's made it again How many more times do you want to be told this is a nothing burger?
>>542637711The EU will take more of their money and send in more immigrants than the UK
>>542637342Trade nooses
>>542640422Because it'd be funny too
>>542637726>>542637934Scotland has a massive budget deficit, it will be blocked until they get that down. Meanwhile Scotland will be stuck with a currency it can't control and businesses collapsing left right and centre because they're neither in the UK or EU. They'll also be praying the the Bank of England doesn't take actions that are good for the UK but terrible for Scotland. Even a fast track with everything done perfectly will mean multiple years of the country being in limbo.Meanwhile they're big plans? Become a tax haven (Ireland already is one) and north sea oil (running out and becoming to expensive to drill)
>>542637221Its not, I say this as someone who would want this.>all the parties involved are massive leftists, they are doing this out of a symbolic gesture flipping of Britain than they are for nationalist reasons>they expect to leave, but still have free travel in England to work, use the pound and receive benefits. This is pure and utter nonsense, why leave if you only want to pretend while still operating as normal>EU already told Scotland it will never join the EU if it gets independence, meaning Scotlands only option with independence is to still use the pound and rely on English gibs. >NI has a coalition government, Sinn Feinn are LITERALLY being traitors doing this saying "were ignoring what the people and government here want, were splitting the country up. We, a party in the government decided this for everyone">Wales is in a similar situation to Scotland, it is not big enough or produced anything, its puffing out its chest while saying "yea but can we please use your money and still have rights to work in England"This is performative trite from turbo leftists. Heres the Sinn Feinn party behind this,NI are the guys that have the biggest chance of leaving, and this is whos behind it. They are not doing this out of a love of their nation and for nationalist reasons. They are doing this because they hate Britain. As a pro Irish unity in NI, I do NOT want these people getting us to separate from Britain and calling all the shots now, not these guys, look at the state of Ireland right now, this government just wants licesnse to flood the place with niggers, not take back the reigns, theyre seeing the ethnic suicide and saying "yea now is the time to join that, the people here need to fall in line with the rest of ireland". Fuck that.These people are traitors, again, I say this as someone who is pro Irish unity, these are not the guys. They are unironic commies that thinks borders dont exist.
>>542640422How many times do you want to be told that UK is over, kaput, capiche?
>>542637221i hope london gets nuked before that happens
>>542637221Wales and Scotland are all left voting immigrant loving faggots anyway
>>542637221zigger fantasy
>>542640859To elaborate on this.>wales overwhelmingly voted to leave the EU more than anywhere else. The government is going behind its peoples back to get them back into the EU>Scotlands party is the party of the quote "theres too many White people in scotland, we need to change this" and was one of the only hold outs on tranny shit being recognized>NIs party was in favour of when Ireland rewrote its constitution to be gender neutral(even Ireland shot that down after massive protests) and is upset that Ireland has put forward plans to require English or Irish be spoken by anyone looking citizenship, because thats racist. Only the loyalist opposition keeps them from enacting their troon laws and replacing the NI and union jack with literally the tranny flag. These peopel are actually fucking insaneThese people are commie tratiors.I would love a celtic league. These people are not about that, they just want to get rid of the borders and flood the place with niggers...and then immigrate to England and work still. Like they are saying "were still going to be doing job in England, and using their money, also England is still paying for defence of our waters too, were not paying for that but were taking them".These people are LITERALLY commies. Britain gave pushback to Israel and they have activated their shitheels, that is all this is. A celtic league would be awesome, what this is is actual unironic died in the wool commie shit. They are not about the celtic identity they are appealing to no borders and sugar daddys paying for their socialist dream where the natives of the land are a minority. Complete performative shit from people that hate their natives and just operate based on vibes.
>>542637567How do they benefit from being in UK?
>>542640350Everything will be fine
>>542640535>england steals all of Scotland’s oil>un sweaty you’re in a budget deficitFuck off you perfidious jeetkike
>>542641421Westminster has been flooding NI SCOTLAND AND WALES with NIGGERS for the last 70 years.
>>542640434>The EU will take more of their money than the UK.Scotland can't provide for itself but lives off of UK's money, so post documention for "UK taking Scotland's money".And 7-8 EU countries are paying for the other 20 EU countries, so post documentation for "EU would take money from" a country that can't provide for itself.
>>542641517EU is deep into a fucking bloodiest war since Hitler time, m8, and UK is spearheading that underrighting all the debts. If you think it will just slide out without consequences you are retarded.
>>542641461Scotland's Budget deficit is about 6 times the revenue they'd get from oil.
>>542637970>taxpayer gibsZoomer retard. They have things we lost for no reason to austerity, so our governments could bail out banks and invade the middle east.
>>542641421Britain pays for everything and allows work without visa an permits freely like they are not seperate countries, they can come and go as they please, there is no red tape on setting up businesses or travel and they all use the same money. All with no expectation that they pay into the pot as they are taking out of it.England is paying for everything and they expect England or the EU to keep paying for everything if they leave Britain and dont have to protect their borders because England will pay for all the defence of the islands. As mentioned, Scotland was denied into the EU for this reason, Scotland said EU will pay its defence budget for them lol.They want a sugar daddy, the benefit of being in the UK is that they have one already. You have to be honest. What would England lose by letting these debt black holes go. They are paying into these countries for no actual benefit to themselves, England is not the one that would suffer if they all decided to go off on their own and England said "were not paying for that anymore". you would see everyone celebrating independence, but immigrating to England.>>542641461Scotlands budget deficit is why. They are not stealing their oil the oil is paying for their debt. When half the country is on the dole who do you thin is paying for that, and where is the money coming from? England gives the money, Scotland gives the oil as payment.
>>542641763defence from whom? That Island is literally being invaded right now and no one cares.
>>542637221Don't care about the economic implications of this.I'm just happy to see the death to the judeo-anglo empire desu. Gibraltar soon
>>542641714>>542641763>more perfidious jeetkike lies England will be absolutely finished if Scotland leaves. You produce nothing and you have no allies.
>>542640434Wales would get tons of EU grants because it's poor as fuck.
northern ireland is a massive money pit for the uk because unionists are the laziest most entitled niggers on earth, unless every single unionist gets gunned down in the streets before reunification I don't want them in my country.
>>542637221Everywhere is collapsing nigger. We live in a transitionary era reminiscent to post-WW2 were a global shake-up occurs and we're yet to see who gets sifted through and who remains on top.In ordinary terms such separations makes no sense as per >>542641763 but these aren't ordinary times. Such a separation only makes sense in that you know you're gonna eat shit anyway, but you'd rather not be tied with someone else and have the freedom to maneuver how you wish if given the chance. None of the 3 will benefit in the short term (or even long term), but the world is so visibly unstable right now that keeping your distance is also a valid strategy.
>>542642000This.
>>542637221I turned myself into a country, Morty
North of England honestly has more in common with Scotland and Ulster than with London and the home counties. If we're going to break up the country the new border should be somewhere in the midlands.
>>542641887Yeah but a gorillion more niggers in the tradeoff
>>542641517Took their oil
>>542637221The United Kingdom is being punished for their insolence. Should've listened to Germany in the 1930s.
>give US access to your bases so they can bomb Iran>Trump backstabs you anyway and calls for Irish reunificationWhy are the English like this?
>>542637726Scotland would probably crutch on Ireland. The two are culturally close. Even if Scots kept working in London it wouldn't matter. I think that Scots are just hoping migration goes down but I guarantee they wont get that. It seems like if you press that off switch u get targeted.
>>542637221
>>542641605EU isn't at war lol.
>>542641851>GVARight, now look at the defecit you fucking spastic. GVA is what is contributing to PAYING towards that debt, it is things that it could do to pay off what it has already spent money on, like if they set up a steel mill that money doesnt just go straight into their pocket, it goes towards the debt that paid for the fucking steel mill.Thats whats paying off the debt. Ask yourself genuinely, who the fuck is paying for half the country on the dole in Scotland, now ask yourself why England is doing this. Its because Scotland is running a bill and England expects to get at least some of the money back. If it leaves and says "were not paying that" then England can just say "yea youre not using our money anymore since you have now made if valueless". What do you think happens then when the EU now has a country working on funny money just to pay off debts.Again, EU told Scotland it is not allowed to join the EU because of this. They dont want to take Scotland in just to start paying their debts to England with no actual benefit besides saying Scotland is part of their market where the only thing they have is oil, of which is immediately sold on to pay for other shit it spent money on as Scotland is an importer not an exporter, and that oil is all they have to pay for it and its debt.
>independence*Imagine they split, join the EU and then France and Germany leave
>>542643209France and Germany basically get anything they want through in the EU, why would they leave?
>>542642000>make England pay for everything while you do nothing, as punishment for centuries of oppression and maltreatment>"noo youre suppose to pay taxes to that government, think of the investors and the politicians! Youre suppose to want to leave rather than demand justice!"They have it right. Consider it reparations lol, Ireland lost its chance to just demand satisfaction from England and now has a government pushing mass migration on them so the people are competing with slave labour, and complaining people in the north arent the same way and got their payout.
>>542640350>Northern Ireland will happen at some point but there's no sign of it happening soonWhy do people still see this as inevitable? Catholics with big families are dying out and the ROI is getting replaced anyway. NI would be best independent or semi-independent within the UK. They could attract fleeing Brits if they wanted.
>>542643209The truth is if they left and joined the EU, the EU would also control all their assets. Like Iceland refused to even discuss joining the EU because everyone knows they just chop and change shit so that it benefits the market rather than the individual countrySo now without Britain owning the waters around it, you would have French fishers drying Scotland of its fish industry, for example. Why the fuck are people suddenly on the side of hte EU now that this is happening, did they forget that they are WEF shit that just wants to centralize resources and weaken individual nations from standing on their own with their own shit? At least with Britain it puts a massive road block on being able to do that because it cant control the waters and unlimited acces to them.>>542643508Itll happen but it will be when Ireland declares its actually for the Irish, the sentiment in the north seems to be that the south is now vehemently the enemy based on what its doing and its goals. You cant say "ireland for the irish" while doing mass migration where 1 in 5 people in Ireland are foreign now. The appeal to that doesnt work, so unifying would just be to become another economic zone, a much weaker one at that.
>>542643508>Why do people still see this as inevitable? Because anyone with half a brain sees it coming, for better or worse.>Ulster Unionism circling the drain, totally incapable of winning younger voters over>"""Neutrals""" (Greens, Alliance) work overwhelmingly more often with lefties than conservatives, meaning they work more with Nationalists than Unionists>Most polls ALREADY say most people want it in the future, but are uncertain about it right now>Most people in NI *do not vote Unionist*A United Ireland is very obviously coming, the fight has now become to stop radicals/IRA sympathisers from spearheading it. This is why every conservative head from all the "its too early...we must wait..." sorts in the ROI have switched to banging the United Ireland drum-they don't want Sinn Féin to claim it.
>>542637221It's just performative headline-grabbing, these parties got voted in as basically a protest vote against the Lib/Lab/Con trifecta shitting the bed for decades and after getting into power it turns out they also shit the bed just the same as the rest when they actually have to run a country instead of sitting in opposition banging their drums. It's kind of like the Argentinian president banging on about the Falklands whenever their popularity ratings start to plummet.
>>542641851Noos the day; and noos the oorScotland shall be free
>>542643508It's happening "soon".Ultimately it's because the world keeps pushing it more than anything and they only need to win once. A referendum would be lost now but it doesn't take much of a shift. A referendum would result in so much outside interference putting NI to leave, both Russia and the US would even be on the same side.
>>542643759It's performative for Wales and Scotland and beneficial for separatists in NI. Sadly I don't think the SNP/Plaid Crymu realise it but they're about to become fodder in the only actual separatist movement with a chance.
>>542641826How humiliating must it be that your Crown lawfully signed over a tiny rock to Britain and Brits then built an economy and society on it that is better than anything nearby, including an airport, and all you have left is to desperately hope that somehow that land and all its economic value which you didn't pay for, drops onto your lap for free. This is after you also unlawfully laid seige to it for 3 years and failed to take it by force. Britain should lay explosives and destroy the entire place so it is returned to what it was.
>>542637747The Spanish have been clear that the answer is no because they oppose seccessionism per se
>>542643611Fuck yer walls of text. Go read them to the houthis. We shall go rustle up a King
>>542637567Their kids can be kept safe and won't be handed over to paki rapists anymore by labour scum.
>>542637221>United Kingdom breaks apart>Ireland and Northern Ireland unite>Scotland, Wales, and the new complete Ireland join EU>As the crown is unable to hold the kingdom together, they lose Antigua and Barbuda, Australia,Bahamas, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands and Tuvalu>Canada joins the EU, pissing off both England and USA>What remains is England, alone, outside of EU, their power diminished, filled with immigrantsLmao they're already seen as the Florida of Europe, but if this happens theyäll be demoted even from that. Man I wish my father would've been here to see the fall of the United Kingdom, he would've been so stoked.>>542637567As it turns out, they could join the EU which would unironically benefit them. EU isn't quite the useless money sink people here like to make it out as. Access to a huge single market, boost in GPD, foreign investors, cheaper trade with less tariffs, large scale business, Schengen, no roaming fees, plenty of studying opportunities like the Erasmus program, freedom of living anywhere in EU, peace and stability, strong legal institutions, crisis solidarity and in general global clout in belonging to a unified bloc of Nations. It's not all just bureaucracy.
>>542643841It's more or less already underway, as was the plan. When the Adams faction took over Sinn Féin in the 1980s, their long-term plan became:>Make sure the IRA holds out long enough to end the conflict on our terms (Succeeded)>Huge push for young people from Republican backgrounds to enter education, careers in law, careers in politics, pump the money and influence into regenerating nationalist areas (Succeeded)>Gradually erode Unionism's support base by allowing them to get painted into conservative corners, mop up the youth vote with left wing populism (Succeeded)>Offer "concessions" through meaningless gestures like meeting the Royal Family so people see you as "moving forward" (Succeeded)>Champion a shitload of cross-border economic, political and cultural initiatives to ensure the border can never be hardened>Become the dominant party in Stormont (Succeeded)>Wait while Unionism bleeds support to moderates, who in turn feed Nationalism (ongoing)This is why there are like 50 books from ex-Shinners who get paid thousands to basically repeat the fact that:>sinn féin are a NASTY party, very NASTY, too much discipline, too much internal control, EVIL people...>wtf...they keep winning elections...thankfully my TELL-ALL book will reveal that the guys who were the political wing of the Provisional IRA have some heckin skeletons in their closet!Unionism's answer continues to be "no, not true" as they enter what appears to be the start of yet another decade of endless loss and embarrassment.
>>542643954>houthisAppealling to groups of muslims as a reason to flip off Britain is not going to help any of these groups, or makes sense given Britain was the one with power to swing its massive dick and slap Israel in the face. If they get what they want they are about to rouse the nationalists, and in places like Scotland and NI especially the "houthis" in your scenario are the ones that are going to be getting firebombed and have their doors kicked in lol. Its why while Im opposed to breaking up under these parties and their goals, but I dont think those parties actually account for what it would mean to have to govern people without Britains resources, I would actually be on board for it just so the fight now happens about what it actually means to be a native of the land and for Britain to not be able to step in as mediator.>youre a celt, what kind of celtCant fight for independence just to then make the argument for ethnic replacement and giving control to the EU.
>>542637221A solution everyone can agree with.
>>542644017>the Erasmus programThis thread sure is smoking out locquacious cosmopolitan midwits
>>542644120Not reading that. Short form chatgpt
>>542644124>dublinthe one part of Ireland I don't want us to keep in a United Ireland
>>542644159I wasn't in the Erasmus pogram, if that's what you're implying. But it's a great opportunity for people anyway, and it's free.
The report is out, now we see how fast the media can read
>>542637221>UK says that they will restrict Israel products that came from the occupied settlements>two days later thisIts surely a coincidence
>>542644194Alright>Britain splits>the places that left fight over what being native means now>that means muslims and niggers get the rope>cant call on Britains resources to stop them now>Israel now got rid of one of its only major oppositions because Britain no longer has power to do anything to them. Only critics are people that cant touch themThe world is going to change, you might not like it.
>>542643945>>542637726Spain government has already stated they don't give a shit lol.And Catalonian secessionism has more in common with israel than Scotland.>>542643938TL;DR. Enjoy your caliphate faggot
>>542644384>0. Scotland is free >1-17. Fearmongering and what's your next moveIt's not a debate. We don't have to tell you our plans; but it will be a big party and you aren't invited
>>542641826This.
>>542643841>>542643692People have been saying it's inevitable or around the corner for generations. More chance of humanity getting wiped before this happens.
>>542644384No anon, that won't happen. Here's what'll happen.>Britain doesn't split.>Reform, now polling behind Labour, fail to ever reach the heights they previously had>Scotland remains dominated by leftists>As does Wales>All the actually important parts of the UK (see: places where power is centralised) remain in the hands of liberals/small c conservatives at best>The next election will see either Labour or a Reconstructed Tory party win, both Reform and Restore are treated as outliers and products of the UK's "toxic decade" (2016-2026)>Northern Ireland leaves (not anytime soon though). British politics unaffected, entire thing treated as amicable and heckin wholesome>New Britian, New New Labour/Tories, Same Old Stuff>sporadic meme race riots continue each summer when the schools are out>nothing comes of them, as they do not actually pose a threat to anyone or anything important
>makes it sound like they're about to pull the trigger with actual support>probably just a couple of unbacked retards about to lose another referendum if they even have enough power to start oneI didn't look inside but tell me I'm wrong.
>>542644702>People have been saying it's inevitable or around the corner for generations. Yes, dissident Republicans in NI famously mock Sinn Féin constantly for the whole>10 more years!!! Promise!!!But the problem is that this practice has made Unionism completely complacent. People are ditching Unionism in droves in favour of Irish Nationalism. We are already here:>Most people don't vote Unionist>IRA guys the largest party>Statues cropping up left right and centre of Irish rebels>Booming tourism industry framed around Irish aspects of Northern Ireland>Unionist voteshare/seat count dropping every single election>Most polls suggest people want a United Ireland in the short-term future, and that almost everyone wants it in the long term>Neither YES/NO can get over 50% in any poll asking if they want it *now*I feel extremely sorry for anyone who thinks the insufferable toads in Sinn Féin are just sitting on their hands. The entire island is lighting up with "United Ireland when" rhetoric and the best Unionism can offer is basically>er, what about the IRA
Independent England will be glorious
>>542644905Imagine the balanced budget
>>542644905Yes! This is freedom for everyone. You can be Yorkshiremen and Essex bros again
>>542644856The main obstacle left, as I understand it, is that healthcare in Ireland is dogshit by euro standards and people don't want to give up the NHS, not some bollocks about loving the union jack or whatever.
>bloody no, you can't just vote to leave!
>>542637726>carry on using the British pound which is controlled by the Bank of England until they can join the EuroSNP have been told several times that's not happening. If they leave they lose access the British Pound linked to the BoE.>>542642788>Scotland would probably crutch on IrelandIreland do not want to pay for Northern Ireland, let alone Scotland.
>>542644017Its is wild reading threads like this and seeing the sheer delusion and vindictiveness of lesser whites, which is absolutely what you are as a Fingolian. The breakup of the UK, frees England, as only England is currently deprived of self-rule and its Common Law tradition. Ireland is captured by the EU, and Scotland desperately wants another paypig to finance them as England has been doing for over 300 years.Reminder, Scotland created the Union and was broke af. England is wealthier per capita that Scotland while having 20 million unemployed foreigners we have to subsidise. This post war Fabian Society migration was only created to destroy working class birthrates as a eugenics program and is coming to an end. Once Britain dissolves, England returns to being an economy powerhouse relative, and remigration. We were always wealthy and dynamic long before colonialism. We have a more advanced economy than most European countries and are way ahead in adapting to the new ai economy. In terms of NZ and other places breaking off, it is the other way around - when our people settled New Zealand, it was 20 years later that the Crown turned up and imposed a load of bullshit on them, so their natural impulse is towards freedom, self-governance and the English Common Law. All that is going to happen is the Common Law nations are going to be freed from this Roman Law imposition caused by Scotland, - which contrary to what everyone thinks is the cause of the problems not "the Anglos" - as you can see in the US, the people that believe in limited government and self-reliance the most are Anglos.You're going to see the return of a federated Common Law system with the US, Ireland, England, Wales, Australia and NZ, if Ireland can grow a paid and break out of the EU., which the head of the EU explicitly stated is based on the Talmud.You are so retarded that you think the English being freed from this imposition is somehow English losing. This is a huge win for us.
>>542644565Thats nice, youll be swinging from a rope as a nigger lover regardless when it happens, you forget its the loyalists that are the militant ones and you guys are the faggots saying "no such thing as illegal" and waving peace signs when a muslim beheads some kid and appealling to the government to save you. Youll open the door for US to run a nationalist country by kicking the shit out of people like you without Britain/England trying to play referee, I dont think you realize that. Its part why even though were against splitting because we like what we have in Britain, we do actually want you to do this so we can run the country for the natives, all it would take is getting past you, and you are the side of blue hair and limp wrists.Cant call England as referee when we start knocking on doors anon, youll have to get more peace signs out!>>542644727The problem with NI right now is that just this year we had massive movements all over the country showing exactly why Sinn Feinn is only a minority majority party and the government there is a coalition, and why it has no power to do anything as a minority party. NI is not exactly peaceful when it comes to this shit and we saw that it looks like when rubber hits the road this year even, if SF tries to tie NI into Irelands suicide pact on "ireland is for everyone" they are going to immediately lose their power, as even the catholics are against this. They want Ireland for the Irish, not Ireland as just another economic zone of the EU.It has to leave under the right reasons, and the reasons SF have given are not entirely agreeable even as a catholic. They want a united Ireland, but not under the conditions that they be ethnically replaced to do so.
>>542637221>perfidious Albion cracks>In Valhalla, a certain well-decorated soldier and people's champion raises his horn and smiles
>>542645092Yes and no. The situation is basically:>Republic of IrelandYou have to pay, but the upside is that things work a bit better since the system isn't endlessly clogged by retards because they don't want to pay for menial shit.>Northern IrelandIt's completely fucked and dogshit, but the upside is that its free."Losing the NHS" was indeed one of the biggest things but now it has lost all meaning because the NHS in Northern Ireland (known as HSC) is so utterly bankrupt and backed up on account of said free access that it might as well not exist. The obsession with an "NHS" which barely functions in NI is something held by the rapidly popping age bubble of older people who were around in the heydey of it being good. The argument has completely ceased to be about any historic issues and is now mostly on education and economy, and unsurprisingly an all-island economy is proving more attractive than "maybe Britain will give us a better budget next time...I gues...">>542645293>we saw that it looks like when rubber hits the road this year evenThe "race riots" this year were a nothingburger, just like all the others. In Northern Ireland, there are riots every summer and there have been for years. The PSNI barely even intervened this year because they knew it'd all wrap up in short order, and it did. Same situation in the rest of Ireland; all these riots, and then nothing happens.>if SF tries to tie NI into Irelands suicide pact on "ireland is for everyone"Ireland for everyone is the view of almost the entire Irish political sphere, anon. Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael, Greens, PBP, the """independents""" are all the same; at most you get some right-wing "talking points" from washed up Fine Gaelers or pissed off farmers turned independent.When Irish unification happens the same political blocs will continue to dominate; Unionists will align with Fine Gael, Republicans/Nationalists with Fianna Fáil.
>>542644559>>>542643938>TL;DR. Enjoy your caliphate faggotCheck out the mindset of the Spanish. Lose a war, lawfully hand over a rock that was empty and all it had on it was the ruin of a mosque, try to gain it back unlawfully, fail, and now desperately hoping they get a society they didn't build free of charge, and when its pointed out how undignified it is, all you have is to reference islamic conquest. This is a country that owns multiple much lagrer pieces of stolen land including the Canary Islands which were populated by ethnically white natives and the Spanish genocided them. You are no different to any other brown race.
>>542645178>SNP have been told several times that's not happening. If they leave they lose access the British Pound linked to the BoE.Westminster cannot stop them. The same way ISIS or Somali pirates use US dollars. It would be insane though. They could make life really hard for them though if they wanted to.
>>542645303Hitler adored and admired the British Empire and saw English Anglo Saxon and Norman upper class are very pure Aryan.Hitler Table Talk.
>>542645413Im more speaking on the fact that the people arent appealling to voting when they dont like something. They just take to the streets and start burning houses when they dont like something and the government has to work with that.The government and what it wants is irrelvant, the people are not participating in the process, they know it doesnt work or just arent doing it. They instead react to whatever is happening as its happening around them. In NI the entire country shut down and people blocked every road, it was wall to wall, armies of people everywhere. And yet, Sinn Feinn is in government, the pro immigrant side. Do you see the issue there? It doesnt matter what the government is saying the people are on another page and arent voting for it. The parties are only winning a minority of the populations votes, the rest of the population is not voting, that population that isnt voting are the ones who no party appeals to, or they just feel they have more power when they just put feet on the ground over a matter as its presented, and to be fair, they actually do.>we done want mass migration here!>burn some houses>the immigrants are now running for the hills and fleeing the country, the foreign pop actually did go down even though it was already low there>the govenrment is still saying "no were multicultural, we love niggers, we invite all of Africa here!">Africa doesnt come because it sees that the people are violent retards to them lolThe people arent voting for the party that speaks to them, because none of the parties are speaking to what they want, its why these parties are only a MINORITY majority, none of them are actually appealling to the larger population of the countries, who absolute DO affect change regardless of what the government wants. Those people will now be involved in the discussion about what it means to belong to the country, and they actually fight, they dont just show up with signs.
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>>542645241tldr, you're talking out your ass about a lot of things at once.>fabian societyThis is like blaming Soros for all our problems. We've had 40 years of neoliberals and Zionists, running the country for themselves, and imposing austerity on us.>and are way ahead in adapting to the new ai economy. Delusional. Our tech workers move to the US and even the EU to get better paid.
>>542645793So rather than fight to keep Britain, why doesnt England itself advocate to split it. There is more to it than debt.
>>542645793The financial centre of London effectively subsidises the rest of the country.
>>542645293>waving peace signsAnd take your filthy nukes with you
>>542645793Public expenditure is misleading. Our semi-privatised public utilities are much more expensive than they were when they were publicly owned, and a lot of that money leaves the country.>>542645897The rest of the country pays for London to gamble on the stock market. We literally cover their losses through austerity.
>>542645858Despite regional differences, English people do fundamentally see themselves as one folk and have been since 927AD when the Angles Saxons and Danes (people who spoke old English) became one people.
>>542645793Why is that? Because the British government has imposed de-industrialisation and green energy policies on the North of England and dumped millions of savages. The North of England would be turned around in no time. We have more coal sitting untouched on the North Sea seabed than has ever been mined by humanity. We have RR SMRs ready to be rolled out. We have multiple cities that re-start the sabotaged ship building industry - which was gifted to Scotland so they would have jobs but are English companies.> Here is data that ignores the mass negative effect of tens of millions of shitskins.The only place that would legitimately have a fiscal deficit is the SW as that is where all the retired go to live, yet the covid vax is going to solve that problem
>>542645940Ok? I can tell exactly what kind of person you are.You finger wag Israel about Palestine and dont like Trump, but actively want to lose the ability to actually give them a slap in the face by making your country weaker and unable to do anything against anything they decide to do. You understand that Britain being dissolved and weak means that other places can now rip you to shit now right?>but were neutralThere will never be another war in all human history, this is it, we reached the end of history, the credits rolled and now everything is fine and nothing will ever go wrong again or see us have the need for taking action. We should all disarm and- wait, why isnt the rest of the world disarming, were suppose to all be friends! We just need to get along! Putin, please stop the war, it would be so nice!
>>542646183>Let's discuss the middle east No thanks
>>542645833> Hurr durr neo-liberalsThat would be Tony Blair, who is a member of...the Fabian Society. That would be the system the British media all pushed onto votes, and they are...Fabians. Is the BBC the front and centre of this system of propaganda, yes or no? Of course it fucking is, and they're Fabians.>Delusional. Our tech workers move to the US and even the EU to get better paid.Tell me you're some uneducated bum living on a sink estate without telling me. Even as England loses a lot of skilled workers to the US it still is one of the top tech countries in Europe, and remove Wales and Scotland from Britains figures and show England and we're even higher on Global Innovation Index while still being near the top.You do realise there is an entire economy that doesn't need shit loads of workers as it is so productive and effective, and because you're looking around as a poor cunt you think it mustn't exist because it isn't tangible on your shithole council estate.
>>542645663yes, and?There were limits to this and the traitorous, degenerate nature of England's elite became more and more apparent. Hitler wasn't all knowing but it was clear how his trust in a honourable, rational White English elite was eventually undeserved and misplaced. Obviously the English made some amazing discoveries and advancements for both humanity and the White race. You have to be able to understand both in context. Which is:>England has been the 13th men, the traitor, the Loki of Europe, the Dolon of Whites people, Modred of Aryan aristocracyThem breaking apart is JOLLY GOOD NEWS OLD SPORT
>>542644017You're brown
>>542646018See the reason why that doesnt work is because they let Ireland go, and America. It doesnt work anymore when Britain is importing unlimited pakis and Africans while claiming it wants to keep the union of its natives. Its all bullshit. I dont want the union to break, but at the same time, it probably should. What does England actually get out of this other than debt, its not even a realm by and for its own people anymore so whats the point. Its just another economic zone, not a homeland.Why shouldnt england fight to get rid of these places from itself instead of fighting to keep them just to pay through the nose for nothing. England isnt the one that drowns when this goes through.
>>542646273Blame your Kaiser for being a retard larper and ruining relations because he wanted a fleet the size of Britain's and a world spanning Empire to match. He should have just invested that money into the army, industry and agriculture.
>>542646273Listen loser, the white race is a concept our people created and expanded worldwide. We have done more for your pathetically lame ethnic group than you have done for ours. The only reason you bums ever got out of your vegetable patch is that English people felt pity on you and dragged you into the new world and colonies. Even the race theories Hitler had came from Anglo-Americans in California. Yet you couldn't even do that properly and you only killed white people.England being unshackled from British rule is fucking amazing news for English so we can re-establish networks with our Common Law kin. Btw not even 80 years into this British imposition and it caused English colonists in America to want out of it. This is simply our revolution, except it is being gifted to us by people with an ethnic resentment towards us that think they're getting free but it is us getting free from them.Imagine having so little history that all you can ever talk about is 1933--1945. Imagine being so devoid of a history that you had to build mock castles in the late 19th century as you didn't have proper castles.Enjoy working on an outdated economy that put all its eggs in the automotive basket only to lose that race to chinks.
>>542646397Like recently in Northern ireland.>we want independence! We will be free of the anglo!>...>Yo Britain, wheres the budget this year, still working on the treasury old chum? Nah thats ok, we know youre good for it, we fumbled it last year but we know you have our backs. We need X, Y and Z. It still hasnt been done yet and we are falling behind, thanks for understanding things are rough...>oh shit Ireland ran out of fuel and is taxing the fuck out of people now to pay off obligations to the EU? Sucks to be them, couldnt be me. People that want to split up are fucking retards, the alliance is great, for THEM. All this talk of how they would be free, look at the fucking state of those outside of Britain. England is paying for all this shit and as soon as people realise that they quietly back away realising how good they actually have it. I think its ENGLAND that is the one that if it becomes aware or distasteful of an alliance, everyone that wants to split off will now be shitting themselves as England effectively pays for everything WITH NO OBLIGATIONS. The debt is made up so long as they stay in Britain, because Britain is paying for it all, its for the regional governance to run those places, and they run them like shit when they have fuck you money, how do you think things would go now that they dont have fuck you money. This is so stupid and is purely vibes with no thought to the fact they will not have that fuck you money anymore.Run those regions better rather than that trying to remove them. Its not Britain doing that shit to those places its the people running them, they have resources piled on them while producing nothing and they choose to build dance schools for paraplegics and understanding racism programs with an army of staff, rather than something actually helpful to the region. This is the kind of shit people are sick of yet not politics is allowed to speak to. "Feminine" politics needs to end.
>>542646484Ahhh, yes, it's the others who ruined their relations, roooight...So how come England didn't save the Russian Tsar's family? He wanted to flee to you cucks but you wouldn't allow it. Let this sink in,>a literal clone of your king crawls to you on his knees, begging>"please let me in, the jews will kill me and my family"It doesn't matter to your elite how nice or rational or in need a White bro is, your lords are just evil, greedy fucks controlled by a semitic elite with Churchill being the epitome of that.Particularly ww1 is well understood by now to have been England's fault.
>>542637221Good. Wales is minority white btw with Ireland and Scotland soon to be. It's nice to see the most evil race in history genocide themselves.
>>542637567Lmao you dense canzcuck fuck have you ever even been to the EU? Total anglokike annihilation
>>542645241All those words and your post still amounts to complete nonsense. How embarrassing
I Live in wales. in case your wondering its white as far as the eye can see. i got 2 kids. I go to soft-plays all over wales... blond hair blue eyes kids everywhere... only the 2 main cites are bongo-bongo... this is 100% a attempt to brown us up... we managed to hide away in the valleys. but this will cause the brownification of one of the last places where poor whites live.the problem is the average welsh persons retarded as fuck they will be like YE INDEPENDENCE with zero understanding of the outcome.if we get independence there is a 0% chance ill stay here. that said if we join the EU ill probably buy a nice cheap house in one of the Russian border locations where mansions cost nothing now thanks to fear of war :D id rather live there than an independent wales.
>>542645241>lesser whitesBuddy, you were most loyal jewish lapdog, your pathetic merchant ass owes everything to the jews, and even then your empire declined, now you’re just mutt sidekick with a funny accent that was once relevant, this is like seeing a mongol claiming he’s superior lmao
>>542646781>We have done more for your pathetically lame ethnic group than you have done for ours.incredible chutzpa (also we're both Germanic, so there goes the "lame ethnic group")All your empire did was >line the pockets of (((industrialists))) >cause wars>help niggers>fucking amazing news for English so we can re-establish networks with our Common Law kinmeth-tier understanding of politics. Your country will be in chaos without even the proper racial animus. You're in for some wild decades of negrofication.>that you had to build mock castles in the late 19th century as you didn't have proper castles.are you insane?Germany is THE country of proper castles. We ackshually distinguish between Schloss and Burg which is how the French try to one up us. England on the other hand had almost no big wars on its soil, whole states have not seen devastation for a thousand years. You had no reason to build proper castles.>Enjoy working on an outdated economysays Albion cuck, priceless!Sieg Heil, loser, you'll need every Heil you can get in the brown years to come.
>>542647071That genuinely might be the worst thing you could have brought up, why did the Tsar have to be saved in the first place? Oh right, Germany smuggled in, financed and armed the jews who would later kill him because you wanted an easier time on the frontline killing other Europeans. Did you not think your post through as you typed it? You actually thought bringing up the Communists murdering the Romanovs would make Britain look worse then Germany in that context? How did that monster, that you allowed to exist, workout for Germany in the long run? Or was it somehow London's fault that you couldn't comprehend the results of allowing radical jews to takeover your largest neighbour? Also for the record Germany was way more pro jew then the Tsar, the same Tsar your Kaiser ruined his relationship with.
news update: sinn fein will now wave israel flags and orange men will wave palestinian flags
>>542647303Oy veeey, being free is bad for you goyim! Believe me, an island merchant monkey that did nothing but be parasite across the worldYou’re literally same thing as jews
>>542647216Do you think effeminate tactics like this would ever have any effect on me? You fucking loser. You have no argument so all you post is "How embarrassing" like a woman would try and use as they lack the ability to argue.
So British citizenship wont exist anymore.
>>542647071Ok as much as I hate Anglos, Krauts are still breed from even further depth of hell, Berlin was truly not raped enough
>>542637221Based, I hope that we are the first ones to recognize the new countries
>>542637342>> implying it's not (((their))) plan>>542637567hand rubbing would surely intensify
>>542637880>"....in my lifetime I have never seen government do a single thing correctly or make any situation better than before." -- t. anon
>>542646781you absolute retard. It's the beginning of the end, with euroregions in mind. Unshackled ? it will be absolute despotism.But hard to think you don't deserve it, after jewing the west for so long.Still can't believe your post is not bait.
>>542647715that's a nice collection he's got there.
>>542647343It is a fact that you cannot refute that in this world we have done more for you than you have for us. Your diaspora map is absolute proof of this, and most of your diaspora live under English Common Law speaking English.> All your empire did was...We invented more than you did and we industrialised more of the world than you did, and in fact Germans came to Britain to copy our model. Not only did we industrialise our own countries and dominions but we industrialised loads of other places and turned them into decent economies (eg Argentina - which Germans helped destroy with Peronism, financed by nazis)..> Your country will be in chaosWe are perfectly aware that we have multiple decades of conflict ahead of us but least we have something worth saving while you'll be saving a country with far less history and achievements. You losers come into these threads desperate that England might somehow suffer, like you're turning up to a prisoner release date and mocking the freed prisoner for getting out of jail. A federated Anglosphere under a Common Law federation is worth 5-10x what the German speaking world is.
>>542647448I think it’s effeminate to be anglo, straight up feminized accent
>>542647343I love when people bring this one upIn Russia they just have people fall out a window and get shot in the back 4 times and call it suicide instead of an arrest when there is political dissidence, and these number suggest resistance to a regime, never forget that. It says people are not falling in line like Russia did when criticising its government. Where Russians bent the knee to their overlord, the British people didnt.
>>542640422i can't wait for that stupid flag to be no more
>>542648020Whatever you industrialized, you dismantled and took home, whatever was outdated was scrapped, you are a net negative to humanity, competing with a kraut of who did most puss-sucking is most anglo thing I’ve seen here, I’m so glad your land is settled by pakistanis and shit
>>542644384>Israel now got rid of one of its only major oppositions because Britain no longer has power to do anything to them. Only critics are people that cant touch them>major opposition You guys have been funding them for basically as long as the US has though? Hell you pretty much are the reason they exist. That trade ban was symbolic at best to quiet down your population a bit, Britain hasn't done anything of substance against the Israeli.
>>542637934>Spain spent the 1990s trying to stop Poland/Hungary/Czechia etc from joiningWhy
>>542637221Island will drift away
>>542648067>feminized accentDepends on the Anglo, this clip shows it well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imrj2qgx3ug>>542648163>net negative to humanityThank you, Stalinland.
>>542648316because nobody likes slavmonkeys not even spainards
>>542648318Stfu retard>Taiwan something>An island will drift away>Greenland somethinh>AIWDA>Cyprus something>AIWDAetc
>>542644017anon, browns here don't like when you give them the facts instead of emotional drivel
>>542648163Not only are you seething so much that you're up total bullshit, but naturally you're all genocidal against the English as we live rent free in all of your minds. The mere act of England getting free of an imposition is enough to make you baying for blood.
>>542637960Horrifying if true. White people are literally speed running into their collective suicide.
>>542637221Lol all this because trump manipulated them into brexit. Never listen to americans
>>542647448Ur a faget
>>542648645Brexit was part 1, and part 2 is the dissolution of the UK so that the Common Law countries can realign and be sovereign.
>>542648757> Ur a fagetNo, Ur a faget
>>542648310Times change. You have no idea how much people hate all foreign sentiment now.>you dont like Israel?>Yea, I dont like IsraelThere are two kinds of people that respond to this even though its the same answer, the popular one doesnt do it just because they support Palestine, they want all of them to go, they are now allowed to say it in the open. People are sick of having to appeal to foreign sentiment now, the nationalism isnt about trying to go back to the good old days of supporting Israel, its to get all this shit out and support ourselves for ourselves and fuck Israel. We do not want ot get into forever wars in the middle east for any side there. The US sought to drag us in, and we said no, because we dont fucking want to fight in foreign forever wars that have almost nothing to do with us at this point. This made the LEFT seethe, not the Right, and they are now running back to the failed position of "the far right are rising" because they refuse to go to war in the middle east, and now its being met with "yea, the far right are rising". Noone cares about jews and muslims but the left anymore, and they are failing. Times changed.Dont forget, "racism and antisemitism is on the rise in Britain! Government, do something" they keep saying this for a reason.
>>542648020Everything you said ITT was gay and silly.>we have done more for you than you have for usI'll make a snapshot of this incredibly hubris. Usually the high IQ apologia is>england island, therefore too tempting to not play continent against each otherBut you're going into progressive history:>we industrialised loads of other places and argue honestly that England is great because it helped jeetland. This ludicrous rationalisation is precisely why liberals main hate object is colonialism which is your invention. >the Fabian Societyhaha yes, those.. {{{Fabians}}} are the reason England is shite>all you can ever talk about is 1933--1945Oh no, England's duplicity didn't end with the war. You came down on the greatest racial lie of all times, gited the jews israel, brought mass privatization and niggers into Europe and staunchly supported America's (((adventures))).The English joke, it finally gets to the punchline.
>>542648546Lmao trust me, you haven’t been living rent free anywhere since you got your shit pushed in first by nazis then by communists in your former colonies, now you’re really just a sidekick of mutts at best, because without this jew petrol dollar system your banking system would flop in a second and you’ll be living in uganda that you feel so much superior to
>>542649272Nobody is talking about popular sentiment, I'm already aware over half the young people in your country don't even think Israel should exist(based take by the way), I'm talking about your occupied government. The trade ban was a nothingburger meant to placate the growing discontent that Israeli could get around easily. the British government doesn't do anything beyond placating Israel, strongly worded scolding that amounts to nothing, and taking it on the chin every time Israel spits on them. Bro, they've been constantly disrespecting you all last week and the British government didn't do a thing about it. You had one of the most powerful empires in human history, and you've been reduced to being bullied by some renegade colonial project run by a bunch of arrogant, entitled kikes.It's no wonder NI, Wales, and Scotland are meeting up to talk about leaving, it's just plain shameful.
>>542637221God wills it
>>542645757But I think people have forgotten that:>Africa doesnt come because it sees that the people are violent retards to them lolDoesn't happen. They get rehoused. East Belfast is now infamous for the fact that several areas got basically emptied out and refilled multiple times; the only thing that happens is the migrants (who will still take gibs/shitty jobs over going home) just get shuffled around a bit. This has been the case with NI basically forever; there'll be "student" housing closer and closer to Loyalist areas and suddenly you get another Holylands, or another Stranmillis, or another Ravenhill Road, or another upper Ormeau, etc etc.>>542647037>we fumbled it last year but we know you have our backs. This has never been the case because NI never gets the funding it needs because it is seen as a political and economic black hole. Britain COULD pour money into it and fix things up, but as soon as they do NI will just leave so why bother? There can't be any direct rule or talk of it because that just makes them leave even faster.Sometimes I feel like I'm going mental when I see pro-UK folks (not any of the anons I'm replying to) talking down the Good Friday Agreement; it's the sole reason NI can continue to exist. It's the only thing giving it any legitimacy to do so. Any straying away from heckin wholesome power sharing is basically a one-way superhighway to NI leaving the UK.
>>542644559>Catalonian secessionism has more in common with israeleggsplain
>>542642445Damned if they do, damned if they don't. The politicians on the other hand will just take the money.
Reminder that the official policy of the Provisional IRA until the disastrous takeover of the 1980s was:>Get rid of Northern Ireland AND the Republic of Ireland; one is pointless and the other is a faggy tax haven for corporations>Replace them with a federal republic based on the 4 ancient provinces (Ulster, Connacht, Leinster, Munster)>Ensure Ulster particularly has a level of devolved government from Dublin to ensure Ulster Unionists don't feel fucked over>Gradual (but total) withdrawal of Britain from the island>Don't join the fucking EU, Ireland should be self-sufficient>Eurocommunists are faggots>Communists in general are just pointless people having forever debates like students instead of actually doing anything>Paramilitaries that descend into the drug trade should be forcibly broken up, using violence is necessary (as they did with the IPLO)Sadly Sinn Féin are far too pozzed to return to these roots.
>>542649946Im not oppose to NI leaving the UK, people need to understand that they are going to like Ireland when they do it. Ireland is not doing very well.In regards to the migrant waves, still not even 4% of the country anon, just in one area. You saying that its a takeover but again, look at Ireland. 1 in 5 people are foreign there now. In Dublin 10% of the housing is specifically just Somalians, that came out recently, the other SIXTY PERCENT is a mix of Indian, Africans and middle eastern. All you can say about Belfast is that one row of houses is HMOs. The foreigners dont want to live there unless the government assigns them to, in Ireland they are coming and they are getting put into villages. We reject this strongly in the north with fire, Ireland has accepted it with crossed arms and pouting. Burn the fuckers for christ sake, it works. We have no asylum centers in NI anymore. Pic related is the compound Ireland bought and turned into a refugee encampment. There are so many that they are fighting eachother over who gets Ireland free shit its giving out, this shit needs to end, at least Britain is looking at a government that is looking to face this even if SF isnt. Irelands government is perfectly on board with this kind of stuff and so are the Irish people. I hate that thats how it is but thats what is happening, at least in the north the people have rejected it and made it not entirely welcoming, despite the efforts of the government.We do not want to fight to join this. Whats the point in leaving if the same shit is happening but at a drastically lower rate and we arent broke.
>>542652081>We reject this strongly in the north with fire, Ireland has accepted it with crossed arms and poutingAnon, there were numerous sporadic riots (many involving arson with buildings where migrants were supposedly being housed) all over the Republic of Ireland all through the last few years. It's why the media made such a big deal of the election not being a big win for the far-right because of how much violence was happening.>We have no asylum centers in NI anymoreKekked, who told you that? Northern Ireland has a fuckload, and multiple still operating and totally untouched housing providers who the Home Office use to house them; whether its the "known" ones like Radious or the "unknown" ones like Mears. The riots did fuck all but damage a few houses in Loyalist areas, and did absolutely nothing to stop the flood of property developers turning everything with a roof into an HMO.Sorry anon, I dunno if you're just very young or just haven't paid attention before; there are riots every year, and the PSNI do fuck all. The reason they do fuck all is because every single Loyalist riot goes like this:>meme pages announce to everyone where to go and when>lads pour into the streets with masks and all sorts>few houses get trashed>cars too, sometimes a bus gets wrecked>they all go home>life goes onThere is no slowing of migrants into East Belfast, nor into Northern Ireland. If you genuinely think they have stopped coming because a few wee lads wrecked the same streets as always, I'm afraid you're in for the biggest blackpilling of your life.
>>542652440>there are riots every year, and the PSNI do fuck all.Yes, we know, when we burn a house out there is literally no reconciliation to this. They cant do anything. Cue the footage of muslims getting armed escort to flee the country and nigerians crying about how racist the country is and that they have to go back home. Win.Youre right, life goes on. Still only 4% foreign population, number went down this year, not up.I see the protests in Ireland but they are so tame and inneffectual since the government has to abide by EU regulations on how many migrants it takes, it MUST take them. That is why 1 in 5 people are foreign in Ireland now, and nothing is set to change. Change this and Id pick up my rifle today. and I dont mean that shit where you appeal to the government I dont give a fuck whos in government, I mean the people, the people seem to only respond by appealing to the government to stop this, they show up, get called racist and go home and it carries on, in the north they get called racist, but the damage was done, the people left, so they dont care that they get called names they got what they wanted.. Ireland is doing what is happening in England but does not have a huge population to survive it, so its being noticed much faster and will not course correct by the time it realizes it needs to, so what the fuck is the point of leaving if were just broke for it and even more migrants. There is no benefit to joining Ireland for NI right now, its just to become a worse off economic zone and to flood the place with niggers. Literally. Ireland is not longer for the Irish, so why appeal to that sentiment in order to leave Britain.
>>542641717I support war for oil in the Middle East and I support keeping our banks afloat.I do not support Angus McBoyle getting free university.
>>542642405Iron curtain through Birmingham
>>542637221>>542637305>>542637342>>542637567BASED THE FINAL HUMILIATION I THOUGHT YOU ASSHOLES 'WON' WWII... WHAT HAPPENED ASSHATS XD
>>542637726RETARD SHITSKIN BTFO HERE - >>542644559
>>542652843>when we burn a house out there is literally no reconciliation to thisThey move them somewhere else.>Cue the footage of muslims getting armed escort to flee the country and nigerians crying about how racist the country is This hasn't happened though, anon. They're still arriving here in droves.>I see the protests in Ireland but they are so tame and inneffectual They really aren't that different to what happened in Belfast, they're just scattered across the countryside. You'd be better off comparing them to antics in Ballymena.>the government has to abide by EU regulations on how many migrants it takes, it MUST take themJust like NI with Westminster. We don't set our immigration rules, we don't set the numbers. The largest "anti-immigrant" party is the DUP, who happily flooded Moy Park with cheap foreign workers while LARPing as being anti-immigration.As I said, anon. The Belfast Riots weren't new, they weren't really that harmful, and they haven't done anything to "stop immigration." But here's something to think about;>Ireland becomes highly anti-immigrant>Sorry! Permanent open border with the UK.>Northern Ireland becomes highly anti-immigrant>Sorry! Permanent open border with the EU>Ireland unites>Becomes anti-immigrant>We are an island which controls our bordersFood for thought. Good luck achieving any meaningful political change when your country is cut in two.
>>542637221I can understand wanting to leave the UK, I fantasize about it nearly every day, but leaving the UK just to join the EU seems insane.
>>542637221Brexit was a scam.It was a referendum on mass migration, government overreach, bureaucracy, trade, etc. Literally none of that was even remotely addressed. It was a lose-lose situation for the average Brit. They saw their economy tank, the migration never stop, and the UK has become an even more over-regulated and government-controlled shithole. Yes, it would have been better if they never left the EU at this point.
>>542653485The difference between being in the EU and being in the UK is that in the EU at the very least the unelected suits build something from time to time.
The last decade of British politics was geared toward one thing; getting a government that was "tough on immigration"-or at least a government that would admit it was a problem and commit to tackling it.Reform topped the polls seemingly indefinitely, and went from being>evil scary fringe party of RACISTSto>government in waitingUnfortunately for Britain, that bubble has now popped. The momentum is fading and now Labour of all people are back on top. It's business as usual.
>>542637221>UK splits apart>all three "countries" still continue importing pakistanis and bending backwards for rapefugessWhy are bongs like this?
>>542637726>fastest
>>542653061>I support war for oil in the Middle EastNo, you don't. You weren't even alive for most of it, so you think it benefits us, but history shows, whenever we invade, we the taxpayer get nothing out of it. BP and other companies continue to gouge us on fuel prices - if the US allows them to extract anything at all. We lost the oil in Gaza to Israel and the US - we had a contract with the Palestinians before that.The most sobering thing I realise as a former soldier, is that all of this was pointless. Retards like you are easily persuaded by neoliberal politicians, that it's somehow in our interest to die for Johnson, for Starmer or for Blair.>I do not support Angus McBoyle getting free university.This is the zoomer cuck mentality.I live in England, my issue isn't that they have free university, it's that I could easily have free university, too.>>542653485They idea is they'd be in a better position than the UK is post-Brexit after having given up the terms it negotiated when it was an empire - being bullied by the US and EU.>fantasizefantasise
>>542653321The problem is entirely with joining the EU anon, Ireland is fully and utterly compliant with that shit to the point of effectively giving control to them on Ireland. It will not be free to do shit if it leaves Britain just to join them. Look at the state of it now. EU says everyone has to take 1 million niggers even though Ireland population of Ireland isnt as big as other places and 1 million is literally a 1/5th of the population? Ireland says yes, because it loves the EU more than it loves Ireland. the EU is irelands lifeline on everything, they cant survive without them. From trade to security, they literally cant just control their borders because they dont even have the means to do so like Britain does.It would be nice if Ireland united and said "we control our borders" but then you remember that Ireland relies on those people to pay for and secure it. Ireland being a neutral country means that it is under the boot of whoever holds the stick, EU holds the stick, Ireland has nothing to leverage them with. You would take NI just to claim its waters just to give Germans the only rights to fish in it as designated by the EU, and deprive the Irish of work and food. Ireland complies with literally everyone Burssels says, it has to, its needs them. Ireland traded one master for another one that is farther away and appeals only to the idea of the single market. Fuck the natives, money is everything. Its no different from Britain, it just has a more globalist scale and is untouchable.
>>542648318RED JOHN EVENT
>>542637612Shit ZOG is currently pushing because they're butthurt the UK recently put santions on anyone who does business with settlers in the West Bank
>>542637221No it isn't.
No it isn't.>>542656496Wanna know what is funny? Is the fact that these ungrateful cocksuckers, even after they separate themselves from us, still want to make us pay for anything,And doing this through "EU directives". Don't fall for that. That's their aim. Their shit is illegal.
>>542637221Yes because democracy has worked out so well kek
>>542637221our age of bong is collapsing
>>542649951>during his adolescence when Pujol begins to see the Jews as an inspiration through Zionismplease seehttps://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israels-links-with-basque-catalan-nationalism-4/
This is one of the 'leaders' who made the statement about wanting independence from Britain.
>>542637221That's going to be so messy divying up the debt owed. They've still got debts on the books from Henry the 8th on the ledger. Plus a couple of other things.Does the EU assume the debt or do the member states?
>>542658929The member states would, but since they would join the EU, the EU would be paying it, basically. Its why Scotland was told to fuck off when they wanted to leave just to join the EU, they dont want to take Scotland in for no benefit at all, just for Scotlands independence.I dont think these places realise that what they have is basically a free ride. EU will chop and change who gets to use their waters and land/resources to pay a debt to the EU, which pays England or whoever remains in Britain. As its been said>fuck Britain we want to join the EU>alright daddy Britain lets get that budget sorted, we need you to give us a ton of cash this yearIts fucking stupid, if they were in the EU they would not be allowed to do this. They would just be rinsed. Its why Ireland had to become a tax haven when it joined, where its basically still a shithole and the government uses its taxes to pay off debts, and Iceland flat out refused to even considere joining because it would have the EU saddle Iceland with someone elses debt and take their access to THEIR water to pay for it. The EU is fucking gay, those wanting to leave are not leaving to be independent, they are leaving to join the EU. Thats why this is performative nonsense from leftists, not nationalism. It would be a different story entirely if they all formed a new nation, but they dont want to do that.I dont even know why Wales is doing this at all, its performance from left wing parties.
>>542658209That guy left politics years ago and wouldn't be involved in Sinn Féin statements even if he was still in politics. Are you one of those Russian bots I hear about or just very retarded?
>>542645793Fuck yeah, North West dragging everyone down with us.
