US IS THE WORLD'S LARGEST DIESEL EXPORTERUSED TO BE RUSSIA BUT THEY CUT OFF THEIR EXPORTS BECAUSE THE HOHOLS KEPT BLOWING UP THEIR REFINERIESUS GOES OFFLINE AND THAT'S THE GRAND MAJORITY OF THE WORLD'S DIESEL PRODUCTION OFFLINE COMPLETELYUSED TO BE YOU COULD GET SOME FROM THE OIL ARABS BUT OIL ARABIA IS NOW JUST SAND ARABIA, ALMOST NOTHING GOES OUT!AFFECTED REGIONS INCLUDE INDIA, CHINA, ALL OF ASIA REALLY, AFRICA, AUSTRALIA, AND EUROPEUSA WILL BE 100% OK, REPEAT 100% OK
only 2 more weeks
China has been very vocal about how they have so much stored food just in case. But they will lie directly to anybody's face.India, ironically, considering that fully 2/3rds of their agriculture is based around medieval technology, might weather this storm better than most nations. Each village is essentially an indepenent economy in the hinterlands. Afghanistan, tribal Pakistan. They'll make it. But teeming masses of starving city dwellers will spread out and cause unrest.No diesel = the harvest is standing in the fields instead of being processed and stored for the coming year.
Europe used to get half their grain from Ukraine. This year they will get none.Ukraine also fed much of the Middle East and Africa. It was incredibly productive even up until this year. Now there will be no grain from Ukraine, it will stand and rot in the fields.
>>542730490i'm already paying too much at stupidstore and shart mart. there's no denying diesel prices have moo0ned in the past few weeks and the wars in europe and the middle east are disrupting oil supply lines.i'm not paying more than $10 for single bell pepper, and not talking about the expensive red ones or the organic shit.$10 dollar bell peppers, think about that!
>nobody wants to talk about the incoming famineShills won't touch these threads.
>>542731314>bell peppers I only eat tendies and honey mussy and occasionally some pidser so even if bell peppers are $100 each it won't affect me
Bell Peppers in Canada were probably coming from California before.
can somebody with the larg QI explain why gas isn't rising the same as diesel, i've never seen this before?
>>542730682>No diesel = the harvest is standing in the fields instead of being processed and stored for the coming year.Mutt, you're dumb as fuck.That's why your civilisation is dying while china will be okay.
Gas is made closer to the point of use generally and they don't like to ship it as far because it goes bad. Diesel doesn't go bad. Also nothing uses gas except consumer vehicles.
>>542732418>muh incoming famineChina has electric tractors. Only westoids too butthurt to import from China will be hurt.This will be the new natural selection, Butthurt scizo will die off while smart people with reason will survive.
>>542735123>No, China does not use mostly electric tractors; traditional diesel-powered machinery still makes up the vast majority of its agricultural fleet.?
>>542735272>outdated info from datacenter who don't know shitNot only are they electric, they are also unmanned and run by the datacenters via 5G and sattelite.Good luck Mutt.
>>542734977Fake and gay
>>542730490two shabbats then happening
>>542730181The reason for the incoming famine is because Saudi Arabia was the primary exporter to Brazil. So now that Brazil lost that they cannot do another export of their own, which in turn has caused a domino effect for fertilizers everywhere. This includes the US who couldn't even make the deadline for a second crop planting this year because of that.Looks like we are skipping the red horse and going right to famine, the black horse boys. Buy your non-perishables now because soon even food will be out of your reach.
Wait I thought the Russians were winning the war. How is a literal third world shithole beating a super power enough to wreck the economy?
>China has electric tractors.AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHACHINA CAN'T FEED ITSELF AND THE US PORK AND BEEF IS GONNA STOP FLOWING SOON
Don't worry, u can have our oil u just have to refine it teehee////
>>542735902Russia is winning the war, there's to be no trains, truck transport, or gas in Ukraine until they capitulate. Ukraine (really NATO) flubbed up pretty hard there.Now Europe doesn't get their grain. Africa, Middle East, parts of Asia neither.Good for US farmers. Prices will skyrocket.
>>542730181if US infrastructure gets bombed, what then?
>>542736086By whomst? Be specific.
>>542735961>muh pork muh beefThey already eat more protein than you, Mutt.Lowering their protein intake a bit will make no difference.
>>542736120literally anyoneyou could drop mortar rounds into any US refinery no problemzero border control coupled with rising internal strife leaves the door open to literally anyone
>>542736215If it's so easy why hasn't it been done? Sounds like a silly idea. Are you with Antifa? You're a terrorist now, remember that.
>>542736517>observe reality>branded a terroristevery time :(
>>542736058Thats good, so there shouldn't be any more disruptions to the supply of diesel... right?... right?
>>542736624>make up a fantasy>call it realityIt's not working dudette.>>542736658In the US? No.
>>542736789I was asking "what if US infrastructure got bombed?"you act like its impossible, maybe you were only thinking aircraftI give one easy example of destruction to elict a response on the main question of what would happen if the US infrastructure was bombed?
>>542731314But the red bell are the tastiest.
CHINEEE HAVE PRENTY OF FOOD ROUNDEYEARR TRACTOL MOVE ERECTRICITY AND 5G SATERRITE NOWWhere's the fucking flying car with iShowSpeed? It was fake. Where's the fucking e-robot waifus with AI? Not for sale. Chinese GPU and RAM? Can't even BUY THEM, coming soon!CHINESE FOOD IS THE SAME AS CHINESE AI ROBOT TRACTORS, DOESN'T EXIST EXCEPT IN TIK TOKS
>>542736933>I was asking "what if US infrastructure got bombed?"What if? Sounds very very unlikely and there's an absolute shit ton of it.>you act like its impossible, maybe you were only thinking aircraftIt's not impossible, but have you ever been to the US? It's huge and completely full of infrastructure, you'd need thousands of nuclear bombs to knock it all offline, or at the bare minimum, a compliant government which looked the other way when Antifa blew stuff upAntifa's terrorism now. They've gone into hiding, terrified, cowed and defeated. Even abroad.>I give one easy example of destructionNo, an example would be an incident. You said "what if" and then acted as if it's already something that happens all the time. It used to, all those food factories didn't burn themselves. Wildfires. But Antifa's terrorism now and they never posed a big enough threat to cause widespread panic, not unless the US government was allowing it to happen, even... running Antifa to some degree.Might have been, not any more.
>they already eat more proteinChinks literally crashed the economy with the help of Obama and bought up our pork and beef producers.They can be re-nationalized. They will be. Then Chinese go back to eating baby birds, bats, and pangolins like they have evolved to do.
>>542737213>you'd need thousands of nuclear bombs to knock it all offlinelmaorefineries shut down from ACCIDENTAL fires all the time
>>542736937sure, if you want to add $15-$20 to the cost of your meal.
>>542737517Thanks, I will.
>>542737419Are you saying Antifa is going to sabotage our infrastructure and you know about it? I'm calling the FBI just in case. There's a Joint Terrorism Task Force comprising over fifty federal agencies who will be in touch with you soon. You sound like you know about a plan.
>>542737517this retard pays for peppers. lol lmao even.
>>542737517
>>542730682india will be ultrafucked. Their soil is basically poison without fertilizers, desertification is rapid, and they’re heavily reliant on imports. Their LNG subsidies are going to bankrupt the country if they don’t stop, and if they do stop all the common people will starve. >t. my genius company has decided to push into the market at this time
>>542735961This reminds me that US companies were (still?) sending frozen hog carcasses to China to be processed and then sent back. Now couple that with meat processing plants in the US being shut down... Won't be able to afford to send the meat out, won't have the capability to process onshore.
Just hunt and eat people. What's the problem?
>>542738868Dude the fucking Chinese have SHIPS anchored off the coast of California where we send flash-frozen hog carcasses and Chinese slaves pack them and they send them back and it's "product of USA." They don't even ship them all the way to China. They brought slaves here on galleys, they're parked offshore. Lincoln must be having a heart attack right now.Smithfield does this 100%.
>>542735775Yom kippur?
>india will be ultrafuckedKinda. In places where it's densely populated, and mind you these are hive people who love enormous slum cities, there will be mass chaos. In the vast majority of India, which still has basic transportation issues and lacks modern roadways and rail? The people already lead a largely self-subsistent medieval lifestyle like they have for a long time. The villages make and grow what they need, for the most part. Life will go on there, the city hordes won't exactly be mounting dangerous passes and going through deserts and jungles with no food to sustain them on their journeys.Bugging out is a fantasy in all instances. Even in the US, the military would block the roads and highways and simply let the cities fight it out instead of letting all the reavers take over and pillage the agricultural areas.As Sony says, cities can be rebuilt.
>>542730181>INDIA
>>542730181What if this was a long con to depopulate the 3rd world?
>>542739676operation starvin marvin is in effect. patriots are in control.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVG0PJLRxMs
>>542739676Sounds possible but I just think shit's gone off the rails and has been for a long time. But OTOH, Trump has always been against globalization, and what powers it? Cheap energy, reliable international transport, inter-dependency making independent decision making and national development impossible even for the big players...Such a fragile system has only existed for a few decades. End of history retards who thought everything would be like it is forever never accounted for this.Look how they destabilized Europe intentionally. From the inside. They did this thinking they could just experiment on their own people with no consequences without it affecting the thing that gave the leaders who assented power - the collective people they governed. And now they're de-industrializing and won't be able to ascend on a wave of new Europeans, however that was going to work. I guess my point is with this rant that these people are either stupid, insane, or Satanic and never thought things could change either quickly, or to their disfavor.
TOTAL INDIAN DEATH
Perhaps starvation is part of the breaking of globalization. Can't "feed the world" from a half dozen countries if there's no reliable transport and everybody is at war and your country can't get diesel.
>>542733605look at the split on sour crude and sweet crude, diesel is needed for industry and middle east was producing the right kind of crude for it.
>>542739676>What if this was a long con to depopulate the 3rd world?>>542739989The plan was obviously for the 3rd world to erradicate the Christian whites. The last 10 years of psyops has shown the powers that be that the only future with non's is South Africa style with non's controlling the wastelands and whites in heavily fortified gated communities. They don't like this since the powers that be like walking in public and being worshipped by the masses, South Africa lifestyle is not wanted by them
>>542740074>The plan was obviously for the 3rd world to erradicate the Christian whites.Obviously, everybody knows that now.>The last 10 years of psyops has shown the powers that be that the only future with non's is South Africa style with non's controlling the wastelands and whites in heavily fortified gated communities. Well that's not happening, they realized white flight was killing their plans and they couldn't stop it. It's not as simple as some Jew waving a wand you know. It takes a lot of hand rubbing to get these schemes going and maintain them. And they all realy on people failing to notice.
Tamarillo flower buds.
>>542740214very nice.
>>542736140>(((UN))) dataand what is the source of this protein? Are the Chinese also taller with bigger dicks as well? Post another picture of a glass LED hellscape. wtf I definitely don't have a problem with """"""my"""""" government adopting every dictatorial social measure China has on my family now>inb4 u r madYes
Canadians will resort to stealing from jeet employed supermarkets and tim horton's
>>542740468Do White Canadians even exist any more?
>>542730181>100% okLike 90% ok.I said from the start trump was deliberately blowing up the global economy to enact fortress america.It makes sense, since china is ascendant and under the current system we have no way of stopping them from becoming the global hegemon.Everybody else saw this too and its why so many of our "allies" have started sucking chink dick in recent years.What they ignored however, despite our ample warnings, is that we maintain the ability to just flip the fucking table, which we did when we killed the ayatollah. We probably couldnt defeat china in a war and if we could it would be a pyhrric victory anyway.But, china does not have the capability to secure the resources they need to be a modern country without the support of the global American trade empire, specifically fuel.So we're blowing it all up.The few countries that saw the writing on the wall and signed trade deals with us will be mostly OK along with us and will become part of the new American trade system.It will be much smaller and quality of life will go down, but we will survive mostly OK.The same cannot be said for everyone else.Everyone else is looking at massive shortages of essential commodities.Many countries will fall just outright collapse as a result.Unfortunately for europe they didnt get the hint and are likely in for a bad time.The EU is fucked.France might be ok-ish if they reconnect with their north African former colonies.The rest of the world is about to see a biblical famine.
>>542740832Do you think South Africa refugees were a test case? If Trump intentionally sets in motion the self-destruction of Europe, he can open it to refugee waves of European people he selectively chooses.
>>542735544You cant eat propaganda wumao
>>542740832>The rest of the world is about to see a biblical famine.brutal if true.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWkT180hNLE
>>542735775Oh wow I guess youre right.There's no way the government can ban exports if it would negatively impact a private contract between 2 companies.Oh wait, yeah they can because the government doesnt give a shit about that.
>>542740832>I said from the start trump was deliberately blowing up the global economy to enact fortress america.>It makes sense, since china is ascendant and under the current system we have no way of stopping them from becoming the global hegemon.>Everybody else saw this too and its why so many of our "allies" have started sucking chink dick in recent years.>What they ignored however, despite our ample warnings, is that we maintain the ability to just flip the fucking table, which we did when we killed the ayatollah.Good points all. I think Trump killed the guy as a way to get revenge for the Democrats trying to stop his detente with Russia by all means possible including the Russia hoax from the election (which Britain actually did). If he's not allowed to have detente with Russia, then other people can't have detente with Iran, simple as. Not entirely but it's a reason for sure that would be added onto the scale.>We probably couldnt defeat china in a war and if we could it would be a pyhrric victory anyway.What kind of war? We could carpet nuke them, their nuclear forces are a joke and I'm not sure they even have nukes anyhow, their own film they made of their first atomic bomb was clearly hoaxed. Conventional war? China would win based on industry and manpower, they are already horning in on oil nations in the Pacific.>But, china does not have the capability to secure the resources they need to be a modern country without the support of the global American trade empire, specifically fuel.>So we're blowing it all up.Yeah it's that or become a backwater as chinks continue to infiltrate our nation and business interests here at home. When they bought Smithfield the writing was on the wall in 200 foot tall radioactive neon letters.>The same cannot be said for everyone else.>Everyone else is looking at massive shortages of essential commodities.>Many countries will fall just outright collapse as a result.They already have except on paper.
>>542741007He would love to do this instead of bringing in a bunch of shit holers.
>>542735902Doesn't matter if russia can beat Ukraine in the field, Ukraine can still beat them at the pump.This is literally what iran is trying to do to america.The difference is iran cant actually hit our refineries so they have to hit everybody's refineries to raise prices globally.However, that strategy only works if we dont halt exports
>>542738868We have the capacity.The plants exist, they have just been underutilized due to labor costs.Fuck unions.That will change quickly as tensions worsen with china
>>542741370what jobs do you think are safe or good rn?what are your thoughts on ai and its impact on this? just a larp?
>>542730912The war has poisoned the fields for the next 100 years at minimum, Ukraine is done for
>>542739676The fortress america plan has been talked about since the 80s when it was clear the soviets were on the ropes.It was always treated as a last resort though, since the global consequences were considered catastrophic.Nobody had the balls to actually go through with it until now I guess.
>>542730181>shitskin announces how ukraine and russia are doing for the millionth timeThink I'll just go on knowing how things are down there, you fucking shitskinned trash. What gives you subhumans to talk up to strangers? Honestly? You should have been thrown into a black van at the beginning of the war, not playing at relevance online while everyone mocks you for previously having a geographic identity that's now completely erased.
>>542741066>China would never make electric tractors!!!>This is simply impossible!>They would rather starve than make electric tractorsWhen did Mutts turn into raw dumbfucks?Is it the water pipe leads?
>>542730181It's ALMOST like they want to starve a ton of people to death in the third world and somehow use that leverage to maintain their world wide banking cartels.
>>542731314>he didn't start a garden and can food all summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_6B-OijIsE
>>542739989Yeah, europe is giga-fucked.History europe has been a resource starved backwater shithole.It only became powerful because of colonialism and colonialism only happened because europeans were so desperate to leave europe they figured out how to navigate open ocean and brought guns to knife fights.Thats something you can only do once though.Without their colonial trade empires, once global free trade (which was only possible as a result of america absorbing the trade empires of France and england after ww2) disappears, its over for them and they dont really have a path back.
Oh wow, jews at it again.Yawn… Z z z
>>542733605Diesel is used for actually shipping large amounts of food and supplies, gasoline mostly is not.
>>542741161My SEGA controller would plug into the C64s at school, I remember playing GAUNTLET on them during recess with it.>https://youtu.be/Tf9nowKH0qA
>>542741617We've spent decades hooking developing nations on free food, we even dig their wells and build their huts. Some nations, particularly in Africa, have realized that foreign aid has caused their own industries to stagnate, and that they have no independence because they can't even feed their people.Killary killed Libya because he was the leader of these nations in their international pact. Others like based Jammeh were also taken out, Niger had a military coup against the food aid hustlers and France can't get uranium from them any more. Used to be they got 90%+ of their uranium from Niger, and France's power is 90%+ nuclear too.Shit is going off the rails for banking families. The fuckin' Rothschilds had a huge auction where they sold a lot of their fancy shit a year or two back. A hundred million dollars worth. You don't sell half the shit in half your castles if it's all peachy keen. That one Rothschild guy said at the start of the Ukraine war, that "If the Ukraine falls the rules based international order falls with it." Credit Suisse, the largest Swiss bank, which also owns the railways, telecoms, power, etc. in Switzerland, failed OUT OF THE BLUE ONE DAY and the US bought Switzerland. We bought the whole country!Bankers are at war with each other as often as they cooperate you see.>It only became powerful because of colonialismWell, I disagree. It was the relative peace of Christendom that led to scientific knowledge being put to use and improved that even allowed colonialism. Before the chronometer, they couldn't find their own backsides with a map. Guns. Cannon. Iron steam ships, these are what ramped colonialism to feed the industrial era. Before that it was spices, maybe gold. But colonial powers (all large nations, ALL) had no guarantee of anything and it was the tech tree that led to Europeans dominating, IMHO.Free trade was the problem. Tariffs and duties stimulating needed strategic industry was traded away for paper money.
>>542736937Orange is the only answerAlso fuck this gay shit, if everything goes to shit I'll live on deer, fish, and multivitamins
Sorry I fucked up my reply.>>542741803>It only became powerful because of colonialismWell, I disagree. It was the relative peace of Christendom that led to scientific knowledge being put to use and improved that even allowed colonialism. Before the chronometer, they couldn't find their own backsides with a map. Guns. Cannon. Iron steam ships, these are what ramped colonialism to feed the industrial era. Before that it was spices, maybe gold. But colonial powers (all large nations, ALL) had no guarantee of anything and it was the tech tree that led to Europeans dominating, IMHO.Free trade was the problem. Tariffs and duties stimulating needed strategic industry was traded away for paper money.
>>542741007Historically most of our immigrants were people from the poor parts of Europe.This slowed in the last century as europe became prosperous, but if eurooe collapses as I suspect it will we will probably see increased immigration applications.If we let them in or not is another matter.There is going to be a LOT of people trying to immigrate from everywhere.Politics in the next few decades will likely heavily center on which immigrant groups we should let in and in what numbers.I expect a return to the quota system.Even democrats will be forced to acknowledge that its just too many for us to take them all.Canada will also be fine, unfortunately. Canadians are fucking annoying because they are painfully oblivious when it comes to geopolitics.Their current trade war antics aside, they will come around once shit hits the fan.And we will be generous with whatever deal they ultimately get because at the end of the day we dont want a failed state on our northern border.Same with mexico, but they wised up pretty fast and have already signed the deals to secure their future.The cartels are probably continue to be a thorn in both our sides for a while though.
>>542742134orange taste & texture are the same as the green ones, i actually don't buy that many tbqh. i used them as the most blatant example of inexpensive vegetables going to the moon due to the cost of shipping and petro based fertilizer.
>>542742410>There is going to be a LOT of people trying to immigrate from everywhere.I think next year the shit will hit the fan so hard with famine, that immigration and flying will be a thing of the past except for the wealthy elite. There's no way waves of third worlders will do shit, not even with NGOs helping them along the way, becase there won't be the resources and it will be an unplanned emergency unlike the Syrian war triggered migrations. This year globally there was a 30% fertilizer deficit, almost entirely confined to India, Africa, China, and South America to a lesser extent. That means these nations, depending on the deficit from normal required inputs, will be harvesting far fewer crops. In some cases, crops will grow fine without as much fertilizer but yields just shrink. In other cases the crops will not properly develop and barren vegetation will be the only "crop."Fuel crisis is going to compound this much more, many harvests will rot. Ukraine's harvest is offline, that's anywhere between 15% to 30% of the world's grain depending on who you ask. It will rot this year unless Ukraine surrenders unconditionally to Russia in the next two months. But the fuel crisis will prevent most migration. It won't be like under Obama and Biden where they were packing airplanes full of (((refugees))) and flying them in on the biggest air-bridge constructed in history. Planes won't be flying at all overseas unless they're owned by billionaires or governments. because there won't be gas at the other end to even fill up with to come back home in. Not to mention severe political unrest in Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East, etc.In my view of course.
People don't realize this but the Russian diesel is offline for export indefinitely, until they rebuild their refineries. And Sand Arab (formerly Oil Arab) diesel isn't going out at all, the pipeline the Houthis FULLY DESTROYED won't be back online for years. Pumping station with a billion dollar specially made turbine is completely obliterated, you can see on the sat photo from the other day that there are even still huge electrical arcs there visible from SPACE and it's completely shitter shattered.Just these two being offline is a famine. US stops exports and it's a Biblical famine, one of the Horsemen.
>>542741207>Good points all. I think Trump killed the guy as a way to get revenge for the Democrats trying to stop his detente with Russia by all means possible including the Russia hoax from the election (which Britain actually did). If he's not allowed to have detente with Russia, then other people can't have detente with Iran, simple as. Not entirely but it's a reason for sure that would be added onto the scaleThats probably part of it, but all the wargames for decades have shown that war with iran would basically decimate the entire Middle East. We are seeing that now with the war spreading to Saudi Arabia. I will be shocked if Iraq doesnt become involved after US troops withdraw at the end of the month.It will be chaos for a while, but the inevitable result will be middle east oil flows going to zero within a year or so.Without that money, they cant afford even basics like food.Food which wont be available anywah because the countries that grow it wont have fertilizer.Europe is fucked but the entire Middle East might be in for an even worse time.Similar story in africa but a shorter distance to fall>What kind of war? We could carpet nuke them, their nuclear forces are a joke and I'm not sure they even have nukes anyhow, their own film they made of their first atomic bomb was clearly hoaxed. Conventional war? China would win based on industry and manpower, they are already horning in on oil nations in the Pacific.We would not initiate a nuclear exchange with china because the long term consequences are too severe and they would not do it with us because they know they would lose.However if we let things continue they would likely build up enough to be able to secure their own oil supplies and then we would be truly fucked.Unless you are prepared to let the communists dictate policy to america like some fucking colony, this was our only option.
>>542736933A 9/11-scale attack doesn't seem so remote given how effective drones, even cheap ones, are.
>>542736215We have literally tons of refineries just sitting around.Trumps dream would be having to rev them up because of "war."
>>542730912At least they still have their circuses.
>>542741500AI is very real, but as globalism burns down the resources to sustain its growth will become increasingly scarce.This is why im not worried about AI guardrails and think a moratorium is a stupid idea from people who learned everything they know about AI from Terminator.AI growth is already slowing down naturally as energy availability is a bottleneck.Ultimately it will only grow as fast as we can build infrastructure, something else china is beating us at and another good reason for why we are doing all of this now.Safe jobs right now are those that can use AI, are essential for AI, or cant be replaced by AI.High-end white collar work is stable as AI still needs people to tell it what to do.Its mostly the low-end "grunt work" that is getting automated.Secretaries and the like.At the same time everything I am talking about means a massive construction boom in america for at least the next 20 years.We have most of the ability to be self-sufficient, but its gonna take a lot of work and a lot of raw materials to build up the manufacturing plant that is going away elsewhere.Honestly we should have started a decade ago but it is what it is.We are in for some rough years as things spin up.On that note, trump may have started this, but you cant put the toothpaste back in the tube.People will blame him, rightly, for all the terrible shit that is about to happen, but there is really nothing anybody can do at this point to stop or reverse it.Politics going forward will be about which policies are best to mitigate the fallout.
>>542741520Luckily for you your government is o e of the ones that saw this coming and made smart decisions.Things will not be easy for any of us, but you and a few others are going to be our close buddies for the next few decades as this all shakes outArgentina might end up being the dominant regional power in SA.
>>542743021>all the wargames for decades have shown that war with iran would basically decimate the entire Middle EastYeah.>We are seeing that now with the war spreading to Saudi Arabia. Yes the dopey prince there won't even answer emails from the people who pre-ordered his new cartridge based Neo Geo.>I will be shocked if Iraq doesnt become involved after US troops withdraw at the end of the month.Iraq already has a popular Iran backed resistance movement, we sent them scattering by killing that Salami general with the ninja sword missile back in Trump's first term. And now he killed their Pope.Yes. You're right I'm sure.>It will be chaos for a while, but the inevitable result will be middle east oil flows going to zero within a year or so.We're already mostly there, much of what was flowing for the last six months was flowing out that pipe the Houthis just completely obliterated. The damage to the pumping station is complete and total.>Without that money, they cant afford even basics like food.Forget the money - there's to be no food because there's no diesel in Ukraine no matter WHAT they have saved up, and even if there was, there are no ships to carry it. And if there were, there is no fuel for the ships!>Europe is fucked but the entire Middle East might be in for an even worse time.Africa, Asia, Middle and Near East. They are fucked. Europe is partially fucked. Then South America, they will be screwed a little and North America will be relatively OK but with fewer exotic spices and Polar Water.>We would not initiate a nuclear exchange with china because the long term consequences are too severeDepends on what's at stake. If they have some AI super weapon? Maybe we have to nuke it. But choking their energy kills their whole plan, they have nowhere near the energy they need. Russia ships crude to them though, through 2-3 pipelines. They're better off than the jungle Asians.>>542743224Eurovision will be dire next time lol.
>>542741600You cannot maintain your entire agricultural sector with electric tractors1) you import about half of your food anyway and2) you need to import the shit you need to make the tractorsFucking idiot
>>542730181Not my problem
>>542740832This post here.You should be buying things like sawmills, trucks, and power tools now, like now.
>>542738668You’re right but you didn’t explain why. India gets all their fertilizer components from the strait
>>542742079One thing I've thought about recently is how these banking families had so much power, and currently have for sure so much power, but that now there are fucking 8 billion people and it's happened FAST.That's hard to control and by it's very nature diffuses power massively.So...food for thought for people.
>>542743740based I know you guys have secret Siberian vaults filled with cabbage, potatoes and vodka
>>542742079100% true.France might be able to survive if they are willing to go crack some skulls in africa to fill in the holes in their supply chains.Britain might try to latch on to the american system, but they will be a shadow of their former selves.We will likely not be kind.>the bankers are fighting100% true.There are secret groups that control the world, but its multiple, not one.They fight constantly
>>542743740Absolutely based and Juche pilled.>>542743755Yep Harbor Freight needs to be looked at closely. Don't get 3D printers - they run on oil processed in China. I also got a cheap Chinese gas genset, $129! It has sustained output of 2000w and peak 2500, that'll run my deep freeze in a pinch.>>542743864>That's hard to control and by it's very nature diffuses power massively.Yes. They spend a lot on media to control these teeming hordes.>>542743898Soviets figured out how to grow orange trees in Siberia, they had that down to a science actually.>>542743910>France might be able to survive if they are willing to go crack some skulls in africaI don't think they can really do it. France is weak overseas and relies on British methods mostly now, just getting the right stooge into power, maybe a coup or two, some troops support a "proper" government. But these days I think they sent too much to Ukraine like every other European nation to mount a real invasion anywhere.
>>542744017Ok so correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like every country in the world will soon belong to America.
>>542738411>>542738441lookin good anon
>>542742789>unless Ukraine surrenders unconditionally to Russiafuck off pidor, they only give alms on Saturdays. How about russia just retreats back to its 1991 borders.
Did something happen? American diesel is not a problem, did you people not think that other parts of the world can refine oil into diesel? Nothing ever happens.
>>542744225No, no. Countries is the wrong scale of thinking. Countries require order, systems, fuel, supermarkets, air and rail transport, cars and office jobs.Hordes will be reaving by the end of next year, and as the grain and beans harvested this year for last year runs out this fall, there will be much less for the coming year. But it's the harvest that rots this fall which will cause ultra turbo famine, next fall, when it doesn't exist and is supposed to go out over the following year.
>>542744361Events are soon to transpire.
>>542743740but it is, your people can't afford to by whole loafs of bread, that's why they sell bread in russia by slice now.
>>542744376... so free land you say?
>>542744396According to whom? Did trump say he was gonna stop diesel exports? Why would he do that? SPR inventories are 184 mil at the moment, it only dropped 400k barrels I think.
>>542743517>I am talking about means a massive construction boom in america for at least the next 20 years.we dont build things because of political issues, not because of resources. California would have high speed rail yesterday if property rights weren't so strong.
>>542744361Its the big one no meme. WW3 has been ongoing since 2014 if we are talking about officially. The Africa front is red hot for the past 6 years with direct conflict amongst the powers or through proxy. Middle east is beyond hot right now with zero reprieve for anyone in the region and syria is going to spark up again. China is making its moves since they can't back out anymore with XI in charge of the boat.
>>542744361Iranian proxies have blocked yet another strait and bombed a fuel pipeline.>>542744423It's funny how you can see a whole loaf of bread for 40 rubles right in same video. I don't know what the hell that's about, we don't have anything like that here. I usually buy fresh bread from the bakery, and there haven't been any price hikes recently.
>>542744376>it's the harvest that rots this fallHow do you even come up with this retarded shit? By mid-September 2026, farmers across the Northern Hemisphere have finished or are finishing their main grain harvests. The U.S. winter wheat harvest is wrapping up, while spring wheat harvesting progresses with strong yields. Canada is also finishing winter wheat and advancing its spring wheat collection. EU harvesting is largely complete, showing above-average yields in eastern regions like Bulgaria and Romania, though western and central parts faced variable weather. Ukraine and southern Russia are concluding successful harvesting periods with resilient output despite regional conflicts. Spring wheat gathering in China and parts of Central Asia is proceeding under generally favorable conditions.https://www.cropmonitor.org/global-crop-monitor
>>542730912>Europe used to get half their grain from Ukraine.only because it's cheaper (and crappier) and some people love to make shekels
>>542744606>Iranian proxies have blocked yet another strait and bombed a fuel pipeline.Yes but Russian, American and South American oil is flowing to singaporean refineries so it doesn't really matter.
>>542733605Diesel is used in everything basicallyGasoline is used in just conventional cars, motorcycles, recreational boats, and isnt as as energy dense, just a prevalent and common hydrocarbon
>>542744475Once the dust settles it'll all be a new frontier, telecoms will fail with everything else. Will have to settle for wars, and rumors of wars.>>542744694>By mid-September 2026, farmers across the Northern Hemisphere have finished or are finishing their main grain harvests.Did you read the thread you dumb female AI-assisted shill? I was talking about in places like Ukraine, where there is ZERO DIESEL and the harvest is rotting in the fields.I specifically said that the US and Canada will be fine. You need to read the whole thread next time toots, I know a lot of you women are new here but you end up sounding retarded if you don't. Just for your own personal reputation, within any single thread. If you come in acting all retarded regurgitating the AM farm report for Chicongo grain like it's on topic? You're going to have a bad time.Dumb nigger.
>>542744895>Diesel is used in everything basicallLess so than you think. Here at least they run buses off hydrogen or are now fully electric. Also garbage trucks are becomming EV's. Tractors and normal trucks run off that stuff tho. But less people using diesel means more for people who do use it. Nothing ever happens.
>>542730181EU is fine tho, several millenia without oil.
>>542739086Only the zaddok calandar is valid for the feasts and appointed times of GodThe babylonian capandar the tqlmudists use is a blasphemy, and the jews likewise changed passoverHence Jesus and the disciples keeping pasosver differently at the last supper than the pharisees who wanted Him crucified before (((their))) passoverhttps://yavohmagazine.com/messianic-teachings/6ngywela31b2z8m55u7eogexikfeqj>as an aside, Jesus Christ was not born on dec25 eitherHe was most likely born in the autumn near to or on one of the autumn feasts, and john the baptist 6 months prior on one of the spring feastsReninder: time is Holy because God Established Appointed Times as an eternal statue and from generation to generationFurthermore, read zechariah 14, says we keep sukkot in the 1000 kingdom
>>542745056Yes that was when they had Christianity to keep them distracted
>>542734977>battery rated for -30Doubt.
>>542745094weird cope
>>542744931>I was talking about in places like Ukraine, where there is ZERO DIESEL and the harvest is rotting in the fields.where do you even get this retarded shit, you stupid fucking moron? They've finished the harvest already."September 15, 2026. Ukraine Wheat Harvest Closes at Record Yield Despite War"https://www.global-agriculture.com/farming-agriculture/ukraine-wheat-harvest-closes-at-record-yield-despite-war/
>>542745415It's just doomer posting and assumptions. Like yer will things get bad? Sure. Will it lead to the collapse of nations? Probably not.
>>542745199No that would be paganlarping
>>542730181>USED TO BE RUSSIA BUT THEY CUT OFF THEIR EXPORTS BECAUSE THE HOHOLS KEPT BLOWING UP THEIR REFINERIESIsn't it crazy how it's always the jews? Zelensky, jew. Putin, jew. Hmm... playing some game to fuck with oil prices. Like how is it always the jews? Serious question, what the fuck is matter with them? Do they realize that the holocaust should have happened? Is that why they're always screeching so loudly about it? They know.... they deserved it... have to preemptively kvetch about a fake one to prime the goyim.
>>542743684>1) you import about half of your food anyway andHalf of their food in the supermarket is thrown out anyway Mutt. Do you even understand how a supermarket works you food obsessed fat fuck?
>>542745186>DoubtYour civilisation is dead Mutt. You have no future.While China was bust researching battery technology, you were busy killing children in Iraq.
>>542737213Why? Iran was flying drones over our bases a few months ago. We've let in so many foriegn people that any one of them could do somwthing
>>542736140Are there people that spend their entire day just checkmarking everything on earth and checking if China "does it better" than the us? Is that all you spend your day doing?
>>542730181Worth to cut it out to only 1 burger per die if a trillion indians die of starvation.
>>542730181>USA will 100% be okayA huge % of the oil that the USA refines comes from Canada. But all the fields are owned and managed by China. I'm sure that's nothing to worry about. Plus there's the tiny little detail that all that oil gets shipped through thousands of km's of very very vulnerable pipelines. And then there's the refineries. In the most culturally 'diverse' countries on the planet. I'm sure it'll be fine.
>>542734977excavators are automated as well the automation of the factories building these is only a matter of time closing the loopmachines will inherit this planethail the omnissiah
>>542746693>could>might
>>542733605Give it a week or two. Softening the blow. Plus the memory of the average npc is...Wait for it...2 weeks.
>>542734977That's a diesel electric truck.All the trucks in fort Mac are autonomous now. They refine their own diesel for the oil sands. But the rest of Canada won't see a drop of that. It all has to come from Texas. Winter is coming
>>542736086Doesn't even have to get bombed. Plenty of ways to take out a plant and, what, 60 million illegals getting threatened with expulsion from the country?Yeah, I'm sure everything will be fine.
>>542741803What a retarded take
>>542748231>That's a diesel electric truck.No it's not retard, it fuels up by swapping the battery pack.>All the trucks in fort Mac are autonomous now.Nah, your dumbfuck trucks still rely on mechanical brakes to stop the 100 ton cargo.Your brakes break down all the time and cost you a fortune to maintain.The chinese brakes converts gravity to battery energy directly.
>>542748700Can you explain why you're so dumb? Or will you just leave us hanging?
bump for biblical famine
>>542744495Do you have a qrd on that 186 figure?
>>542748748>Mechanical brakes means it can't be autonomousWhat the Fuck are you talking about?Fuck are poojews stupid and yet so fucking arrogant, the only cure is a deshanking. The trucks are 400 tons. 100 tons is nothing in the oil sands. Diesel. Electric. Fuck offBoost up. Die. Cunt.
>>542730181Rate my survival food stash for when SHTF. I have four other closets just like this. Am I ready?
>>542751063>Mechanical brakes means it can't be autonomousIt's difference in integration. It means you need a seperate robot just to engage the breaks,whereas the Chinese truck just needs to reverse the direction of their motor to achieve braking effect.>The trucks are 400 tons.>100 tons is nothing in the oil sands.>Diesel. Electric.No it's not retard. It doesn't need the same heavy motor yours need, it doesn't need the same heavy brakes yours need.The truck itself is 100 tons. Its cargo is another 130 tons.You're litterally an angry caveman right now, who can't understand why the other side is so far ahead of you.
>>542751477perfect
>>542744225Not exactly.More like we are fucking off and setting the world on fire on the way.The future will consist of america, our vassals, a handful of sorta stable regions, and then the wastes.Billions will die
>>542752577All because they came for our video games. Stupid fools.
>>542744475Sure in about 50 years once everything dies down
>>542730181>USED TO BE RUSSIARussia has never been a major diesel exporter, you spamming retarded nigger.
>>542744495What is happening now is going to force a change.Our choices in the next decade will be to make stuff ourselves or not have stuff.
>>542730181I thought the U.S. got most of its diesel fuel from Canada.
>>542752642There will be vast regions where nobody in the civilized places knows what's going on at all. Maybe the odd shortwave broadcasts will emit from there.
>>542730181? Huezil is oil sufficient and we make most of the world food anyway, did huezil stop exporting food? doubt that. barn of the world.
>>542745056I dont think you understand.You cant just "go back".There are billions of people alive today because the modern global economic system allows them to be.When it goes away, they go away, but they arent going to just roll over and die.So there will be fighting until the population drops back to the levels that europe could support without fossil fuels.This is also what the climate retards have been begging for btw
>>542732418What is there to talk about? It’s going to happen due to shortages of fertilizer, fuel, flooding and hoarding. Africa and South East Asia will likely be hit the hardest and all those blacks will go to Europe where white women will welcome them with open arms and expect white men to feed their new pets. That’s basically the gist of it all.
>>542746502>based china throws away half their food for fun!You are a fucking retard
>>542748700No u
>>542751477Im sure the raiders who come kill you and take it will be grateful you were so thorough.
>>542752937USA won't be affected and raiders are a myth, it would be like Katrina and they would all die and the government would cover it up to some degree.
>>542752738Yep, for a while anyway.Eventually after a generation or two things will settle down and some stable states may begin to form again.
>>542752990I think countries would move immediately to secure oil, and cropland, those which remain stable enough to be called countries and run militaries.
>>542747418The largest proven reserves on earth is the permian basin in west Texas. The second is the perdito belt in the gulf. Nobody gives a fuck about shitty canadian tar sands.
So if I live in the US will I starve or not?
>>542753299you'll be just fine, checkedbut no more nintendo and no neo geo remake
>mutts shooting themselves in the foot againGood, fuck amierdaca. Can't wait to laugh at you puny faggots l once you come crawling back, like always
>>542753356Ohh nooooo I already don't fuck with that gay shit
>>542752848>for fun!That's wrong, retard.Vegetables spoil when it isn't purchased, you have to actually throw it out.Meat spoils when it isn't puchased, you have to throw it out.How can retards like you manage to exist? You fat fucks don't even understand how a supermarket is run.A supermarket doesn't actually have a brain controlling device that force their customers to buy near spoiled food.Dumbfuck.
>>542753676whatever gay shit you're into then
>>542753041Yeah, I think in the end its going to look a lot the old colonial systems, just with some different players
>>542730181The USA and its allies will get cut off from the wolrd. Everyone can live just fine without you.
>>542755821Nah it'll be more like the Fall of Rome. IMHO.
>>542742789>It will rot this yearDo they not have biofuel infrasctructure? Seems like something you'd want to build out before provoking your main energy supplier.>>542743910>ifBruh, they're doing it right now.
>>542758357>Do they not have biofuel infrasctructure?No. Oil's too cheap there. And even if they did Russia's hitting individual gas stations now, rural small biofuel refineries would also be hit.
>>542757415The age of agglutination ended long ago; Ghana 1957 if you want a date stamp. Next comes Scottish independence and dissolution of Bismarck and Garibaldi's projects. Those who have no history will get to invent some but probably Montezuma will have some say
Maybe India '47 is a better marker; then 47 years to South Africa 1994
>>542731314TKD
>>542730181>FAMINE INCOMINGExactly as the Kushner, Netanyahu, and the Chabad jews intended.Kill off billions of goyim and use Trump and "the war" as the Kapparot chicken to escape punishment.
>>542759242Israel has zero gas you retarded nigger brained animal monkey. There is now zero gas flow across almost all of the Middle East. Whatever their plans were, they backfired so hard that Israel won't exist - 80 year curse hits again.You're either a Jew yourself or their slave, the way you kiss their ass and assign them godlike powers as if they already won the world. Stupid kabbalist.
/pol/s been begging for an end tot he liberal world order for years, now here it comes
>ctrl+f>ammonia>ammonium>0 resultsMerican propaganda bots are really slacking these days.
>>542739676>What if this was a long con to depopulate the 3rd world?Killing off all the non-jews has always been the jews' coveted goal.(((AI))) surveillance center drones will hunt down the survivors.
>>542730181Estonia exports more food than we import. So we good. Good luck to import bros though.
>>542759474hey kikeisrael has no gas and no khazaria neither
>>542740832I fear you're far too optimistic.
>>542759551Israel has zero gas.No Khazaria neither.
>>542759474>Hunger Games That's a bluff, faked in a Hollywood studio
>>542744301In a war of attrition, demographic potential, mobilization resources, and the resilience of infrastructure play a key role. The damage inflicted on Ukraine's economy, as a percentage of its GDP and population, is not comparable to Russia's losses.
>>542759294>they backfired so hard that Israel won't existBurning down little desert shithole Israel so they could make the whole world their new "Israel" has always been the Chabad kikes' plan.Jews are psychopaths, and the most murderous ones are as willing to kill off other jews as they are goyim.>(That's why Howard Lutnick skipped work on 9/11 and let his hundreds of co-workers die - and he's now Secretary of Commerce.)
>>542734977150-ton capacity, 3.4 MW, 900V semi-solid-state batteries. thats pretty sick, nglhttps://baike.baidu.com/en/item/AT150%20Mining%20Dump%20Truck/4457030
>>542738441Respect anon. I got five lil guys started in my greenhouse with my tomaters and lemons. Between those, my loyal dogs, and my firearms I will become a local warlord when the time is right.
bumpfamine incomeing for some, incoming for others
It's going to yield different results than what ptb had planned! But their work and idiocy was No Doubt most useful and did almost all the work for someone else.
>>542740442it's a fact that the US has less beef cattle than it has normally had for decades.
>>542761721The goyim will get no meat at all after 2030.The catastrophic appearance of the reset is to distract humans from how this genocidal collapse is a very intentional act by Chabad jews.
>>542746609Good news boys, salt is gonna be expensive again
>>542742079>Rothschilds had a huge auction where they sold a lot of their fancy shitThe vatican also did something like this around the same time. they consolidated all of their out of country assets back into italy/vatican city.
>>542730181This will end with China marching into the middle east to secure their future and resources.
>>542752787El Ninõ fucked us pretty hard on top of the fertilizer shortages. We can still produce anything we need food-related for internal consuption but people who rely on food exports from us are about to go into massive food chain deficits.
>>542759986>are as willing to kill off other jewsAncient jewish texts say that the jews must sacrifice "their own blood" to bring forth their unholy messiah. the plans are not backfiring, they are working as intended
>>542740832>I said from the start trump was deliberately blowing up the global economy to enact fortress america.You are correct. They can weather the storm, other countries can't.
>>542764114America is structurally dependent on oil. Their prosperity and hegemony are contemporaneous with the age of oil. We are transitioning to multi-fueler world
>>542763261Yep it's called the Department of Works - the Vatican Bank's discreet name.
>>542764608they have their own oil. They don't need anyone else oil
>>542730682>But teeming masses of starving city dwellers will spread out and cause unrest.This is the best scenario, I will gladly watch millions of Indians starve to death and kill each other over bags of flour.
>>542742079>A hundred million dollars worth.pocket change
>>542764919>They got oil Whether it is theirs to use is still to be seen. They owe everyone a lot of money and they got no gold. Playing nice might not be a bad idea
>>542759352Now give me something like the Haber process for phosphorus
>>542751477Excellent prepping sir. I remember that scene in the Road where hugo weaving finds a can of coke and goes insane, or finds Morel mushrooms and is ecstatic. They say to stock all beans and canned foods. Everyone does that. No one stores proper snacks for a post scarcity food desert, but to the anons who do, they'll live like kings of old. Who shall I let my cheeto dusted fingers waft over today?Think about the decades of food science that have gone into making our products so delicious. If shit is going sideways, do you want your last meal to be hard tack or takis?
>>542730181>get taxed hard while government also borrows heavily>money goes to hohols>hohols make energy price rise for headlines>get told 'we' must do more to support hoholsaverage diesel price in DE today = 2,47average diesel price ukranda today = 1,88its obvious Russia is dealing with severe retards
>>542759972Very nice, now let's see how diversified russian economy is
>>542730181They could just reopen and export again within 2 weeks. Literally nothingburger.
>>542730912>Ukraine also fed much of the Middle East and Africa.Burn every crop field in there.
>>542767018Come and take it.Good luck
>>542730682>India, ironically, considering that fully 2/3rds of their agriculture is based around medieval technologyYes bitch basterd. Because unlocking modern technology you need upgraded research center/university which needs 100million food and 50million diamond etc but the British benchod looted them so we are stuck in the game
>>542730181Only for 3rd worlders. The elites have to live somewhere. Jewrope and Muttmerica will be fine because they cannot allow their host countries to collapse. The top tier Asian countries will be fine too.
>>542730682China DOES have a huge reserve of food and oil. They aren’t stupid, they stockpiled when it was clear Trump would use Ukraine and Iran and Venezuela to wage war against them. That being said, the reserves WILL deplete, and it will take about one year. Once they are gone they are fucked. Europe will need immediate assistance and we will give it to them, for a price. End result, European wealth transfer to USA, and Chinese forced into a corner and lashing out militarily only to be beat up and the CCP deposed.
>>542769007If you an oligarch you will ship us the oil. If you not, then you about to learn how things really work
>>542752628I literally and unironically cannot afford to give a fuck about these shabbos normgroids that acted like good vidya is from the devil. Gamergate lit the fuze and now we have the global economy about to implode.
How I love living in a tropical country at these times! Thank you God for blessing our soil and land! I'll keep eating beef, rice and beans while you guys starve. Sad!
All according to plan. Everything is staged. You will own nothing and you will be happy. You will share EV cars with random people. You will take public transport. Etc etc etc.
>>542730181It's over and the amount of slide threads only comfirm it. This time is the real one.
>>542730181Great effortposting in this thread. I have nothing to contribute besides the hope that indians and their diaspora all die terribly
>>542742163>30 years war>100 years war> Court JewsShut the actual fuck up golem. It was European IQ and Renaissance pagan values that allowed Europe to win.
>>542740032Breaking globalization is part of Agenda 2030 and Net Zero 2050. Break trade, break consumerism, lower standards of living, lower the population, lower net energy usage. The math says that our species has to drop to 16% of our energy usage to survive ourselves. These are just the contrived methods they are going about it.
>>542776041Why not fucking murder these bastards instead. Skin them alive.
>>542776454High functioning sociopaths have always dragged the rest of the species forward. Human civilization is a dysgenic mass of screeching baby birds demanding the big birds vomit into their mouths to feed them. It's never been about responsibility or knowledge or stewardship for normies. It's always been what will you give me and how can I make someone else be my slave to do it for me. All of this has been telegraphed out for over a century now. People simply refused to act in their own self interest because of their nature. When a few thousand families can control the planet because of apathy are they really in the wrong? I don't think so. I think nature is healing.
>>542730181>AFFECTED REGIONS INCLUDE INDIA, CHINA, ALL OF ASIA REALLY, AFRICA, AUSTRALIA, AND EUROPEEurope will be fine. They can afford to pay for exorbitantly expensive imports. Otherwise sounds good.
>>542734977China is fascist you stupid brown fuck. And really poor and they make their slaves work 72 hours a week.
>>542777645The world is moving to local resource based trade. In case you haven't noticed the whole Ukraine conflict has been an American plot to weaken and destroy Europe and its working great. Ukraine is now a demographic toilet with their resources owned by Blackrock and friends as payment to be rendered while Europe has no real militaries or resources to deal with it. Germany can't even make steel with current energy prices lmao. The curse of the eternal Anglo is finally catching up with them.
