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In hindsight, was the Men Going Their Own Way movement justified? What did it actually accomplish?
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What do you mean justified? Everyone finds their own way, that's just how life is.
What did it accomplish? The same as anyone's life or group of people. You know, the answer is up to you.
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>>542764193
That image is a joke, right?
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>>542764193
How do you take a 10 minute shower? I mean washing, drying, the whole jazz. In just 10 minutes? Asking for a friend.
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>>542764269
>What did it accomplish?
It took a lot of losers out of the dating pool, which is good for everyone else.
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>>542765658
Step 1 don't be crippled
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>>542764193
They just, went their own way. They're probably largely living their best lives with out the foid on the pedestal. And you don't hear from them because, they said they were going to fuck off and they did. Incels could learn, well, everything from these types.
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>>542764193
MGTOW is still active and its more important than ever. Women are fucking insane and are actively trying to ruin society. Men need to unify to stop the demons from ruining the world.
86/19
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>>542764193
If the kids are older than 1 years they dont need constant supervision
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>>542765658
I would also like to know the secret. Usually takes me 30-40 minutes.
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>>542764193
>what did it accomplish?
I assume it made the lives of those "going their own way" a lot more pleasant.
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>>542764193
It became meaningless as any sense of normalcy went the way of the dodo.
Hyperindividualism is the cultural paradigm now, and so is getting a collective Darwin award.
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>>542765977
Have every single part done the same way each time, but find ways to do it faster if you can.
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>>542764193
I went my own way because of my parents and father unbelievably shit marriage mainly my mothers fault. My two younger brothers didn’t learn a thing and married and now both are divorced with one paying child and in poverty just to avoid prison.
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>>542765491
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>>542764193
>be a neurotic retard
>gather kids for a big neurotic retarded speech
>be surprised when the kids are riled up and want to follow you around after you did some weird shit and focused their attention on your impending absence
greetings from kazakhstan
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>>542765491
It’s a woman joke

Aka, her 100% actual beliefs
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>>542765658
>Shampoo goes on first.
>Soap the rest of the body while you wait, clean your cum stained COCK, pull back the foresking and get the spot under it, then clean the ASS, make sure you get in there between the asscheecks to get all the shit or you'll smell like poop.
>Finally, wash your hands properly with the soap and then wash the shampoo off your hair.
>Done
If you are having trouble shaving try getting an electric shaver, I know this sounds crazy but if you buy one of those electric hair cutters you can just use that to get the long hairs in your beard. I usually don't even bother shaving anymore.
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>>542764193
This is just the woman self-aggrandizing. Bitch, no one needs to be hijacked into a 1 minute monologue because you need to go take a shit.
>"I'm gonna go do X."
>"Okay."
Is all that needs to happen, BUT women psychologically get off on being the center of attention so there HAS to be a mini-speech where everyone is paying attention to her.
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>>542766346
This guy gets it.
It's the same reason some people's pets are neurotic when they leave or arrive.
Can't fucking stand going over to someone's house and their dog is losing its shit and they are like, "Omg, it's soooo cute! XD" No it's not, it's fucking a sign that you are a shitty anxious mess that passed on anxiety to a dog like a fucking AoE you possess from being such a coward.
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>>542764193
For a lot of men it wasn't a choice, they were sent there own way buy civilization destroying levels of hypergamy let loose by 4th wave feminism. That's not to disparage those men, it's just a fact. Where MGTOW became toxic is that it was guided in such a way to just blame women eternally instead of searching for (((root causes))) and as such was always going to be controlled opposition designed to keep men and women at odds. The arguments become incoherent after awhile, you can't simultaneously say that women lack agency and shouldn't have rights and that women are the most evil force in this world, only one is true and it's the first one. Going your own way is the lobertarian controlled opposition solution jews hand you through their CIA operatives online that prevents White men from ever getting politically organized. The woman problem never actually gets solved unless White men politically collectivize and strip women of their rights. Alone and going our own way we remain powerless, and that's the point if it.
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>>542764193
>What did it actually accomplish?
The future of humanity anon. The future of humanity.
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>>542766659
I blame women eternally because if they were weak enough that (((causes))) could affect them, then they would always need handholding and corralling in order to not be dumb and useless.
Women lack agency, shouldn't have most rights, and they are the most evil force in the world because of their desire to be desired above all else to ensure their own survival.
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>>542766759
But you see how lacking agency means you're not evil by definition? Evil implies intent and choice. Women don't really choose anything, they feel and react to feelings moment to moment. You wouldn't think a tiger eating a jeet is evil, he's just hungry. what would be evil would be if a zookeeper intentionally let a tiger out of a cage knowing it would hurt people. The jew is the zookeeper.
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>>542765491
it's a female stand up joke (not a joke, just some unamusing bs from her life)
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>>542766983
Eve committed the original sin. Women have agency, they just love finding excuses to avoid responsibility
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>>542766983
Don't fall for the foid tricks. They have intent and choice, they just pretend they don't so they don't ever have to face accountability or consequences.

>>542767151
This guy gets it.
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>>542765718
These guys aren't wasting time chasing awesome pussy attached to losers.
If these fems were born male they'd due kissless virgins.
The males that can't get laid can go find happiness elsewhere instead of wasting time.
Win win
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>>542766479
>pull back the foreskin
Anon, you may be talking to the wrong crowd here
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>>542767331
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>>542767151
Get that Abrahamic horseshit off my board.
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Did you know? People managed to ID the husband of this cartoon artist

He's a lawyer making aprox 400k USD a year in New England and has wealthy parents. The female stays home all day, she doesn't have to work, gets an allowance that is higher than what most people make. He is very tall, too.

It's still not enough, she keeps complaining about her husband in all her comics.
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>>542767151
Mankind fell because Adam chose to give in to Eve. If only Eve had sinned, we would've been fine.
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>>542767449
kek
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>>542767236
Brother all I can say is that you've never seen a woman fall apart in a high stress survival situations. They do have different constitutions from us and they can't handle making rational decisions under stress. You can't promote race realism and sex realism and then revert back to being an egalitarian because you're mad at women. Trust me they make me angry too, but it's ultimately unproductive and destructive anger that doesn't sove the problem. I take it we at least both agree that legally disenfranchising them would be the ideal solution?
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>>542764193
>pic
Yeah women are more neurotic than men duh. Who the fuck cares youre going to the bathroom not work or the shop its the same house, not even going outside you anxiously attached hag.
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>>542765491
No, women in the west think that being completely overbearing is good parenting.
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>>542765658
It's called a lie. She's pretending the self-inserted autobiographical character in her comic is just barely able to grab enough time to clean the filth off her body in 10 minutes before she has to rush back to the children because obviously he's too stupid to be trusted for any longer a period of time with his own children. That precious 10 minutes she gets to herself is her only break of the day so we should feel sorry for her.

This is the same comic that turned a fucking peach lying on the counter in the kitchen into a missndrist meme. She's a passive aggressive psychopath destroying her own happiness because she wants to look like a victim.
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>>542764193
>What did it accomplish.
Precisely nothing. The state/corporate amalgam filled the gap financially and non-mgtow men filled their holes. As it turns out, sitting on ass, gooning, and playing video games doesn't get much done.
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>>542764193
Based husband
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>>542764193
>In hindsight, was the Men Going Their Own Way movement justified? What did it actually accomplish?
Men not losing half their shit in family court.
As for was it justified.... the last decade showed that it was a perfectly rational response to female behavior
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>>542764193
>What did it actually accomplish?
Freedom from nagging, overbearing bitches like that who have to turn their life into some pretended suffering parade for the entire world to see?
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>>542767501
Yeah, how did that jeet lawsuit go? Killed himself over terminal loss of izzat yet?
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>>542764193
He clearly saw a peach, no time to waste.
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>>542764193
>>542766241
>>542767501
Based peach lover
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>>542765658
she's off to rub her clit
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>>542764193
Mostly justified. You should still get married but be very careful and protect yourself with a prenup. MGTOW has helped many men avoid the traps of modern society.
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>>542768019
Accurate
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>>542764193
>the young of the species prefer their mother
revolutionary. Why has no one noticed this before?!
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>>542768014
if your kids are <2 this isnt overbearing. this is what you do to make sure they dont fucking die.
but men are retards with no thoughts towards their kids
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>>542765658
how to shower in 10 minutes?
>don't be morbidly obese
>shit before getting in the shower
>don't eat
Start here. If you get winded from washing see your doctor for ozempic.
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>>542765658
Get in, moisten your bits. Soap from the top, work downwards. Rinse.
It ain't a fucking spa.
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Not really. As much as /pol/ doesn't like to admit it, the vast majority of issues we are facing currently stem from weak beta men, not women. It's men that are failing to uphold their responsibilities. It's Millennial men that refuse to work. You can't really "go your own way" when you completely lack independence and social leverage.

You don't want to "go your own way". You want a concubine.
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>>542764193
>locking the door while taking a shower
What a retard.
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>>542766241
more like
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>>542769414
Shut up Sukdeep.
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>>542765658
You cut down on the "contemplating life while warm water pools at your feet"-part.
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>>542769513
Shut the fuck up, addict.
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>>542766241
I'm sick of women acting like they are so selfless and men are so selfish. Most women are stupid hive mind robots.
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>>542764193
what does this webcomics bitch think about Lindsay Clancy, i wonder
Dig up her posts
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>>542764193
>Men Going Their Own Way
And which way is that ?
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>>542769590
I generally like Sen. Hawley but that statement is completely out of touch. He makes half a million a year as a senator, if not more, and he has tons of authority to go along with his responsibilities. It's very easy for a man in his position to say "men should work and take responsibility" - he has great financial reward from working, and great authority to go along with his responsibility, but the average man has neither of those incentives.
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>>542764193
this is how you make your kids complete and utter loser failures unable to think for themselves
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>>542769909
That's all well and good, but at the end of the day he's objectively right. We're facing a real-time incompetency crisis, and in a generation or two the majority of the population will be illiterate.

There unironically needs to be a porn/video game/social media ban. But /pol/ isn't ready for that conversation yet.
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>>542770061
>We're facing a real-time incompetency crisis
Yes and it's entirely the fault of our so-called leaders. They've decided to import a quadrillion shitskins while taxing the population into space and letting the kikes run the private sector as an inflationary ponzi scheme. And to top it all off they've leaned hard into feminism and LBGT for the purposes of maximizing consumption and doubling down on the narrative that all humans are just interchangeable cogs.

If they actually wanted things to change they'd roll back the insanity and gas the kikes, but they've got precisely no intention of doing that.
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>>542764193
He saw a peach. What was he supposed to do?
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>>542770395
>Yes and it's entirely the fault of our so-called leaders.
Nope. It's entirely Millennials. I don't know where this weird deflection to boomers came from, but this is a Millennial problem. Your parents most likely informed you on the dangers of video game addiction and escapism. Odds are, you didn't listen.
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>please watch the kids
>*walks away from the kids to go play valheim*
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>>542764193
How ca he go! How can he do it!
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>>542767802
That's pizzacake, isn't she?
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>>542764193
No
Nothing
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>>542764193
Smart Ben. This is his only chance to step outside for 10 minutes, knowing that the harpy will be too busy shower-masturbating to strangle the children.
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>>542770461
>It's the lazy kids not the broken system!
Things don't break at the bottom, systems crack from faulty leadership at the top. If you wanted your citizenry to enthusiastically continue your system, the dipshits ostensibly in charge should have made it worth participating in.
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>>542769322
>shit BEFORE the shower
Thanks for the advice ranjeet, i didnt realize shitting and then waffle stomping the shit down a gray water drain was taking all my time up
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>MGTOW
Brother, you were sent your own way.
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>>542769510
>because my refuses
Very good edit saar
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>>542769250
You will never have kids either way you disgusting 30+ gerfoid.
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>>542770061
>we have a comptency crisis because of men!
What gender makes up the most of hr and does the hiring?
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>>542770654
I just don't understand how Millenials have a completely incorrect timeline of events.
>People born in '95 onward get addicted to video games
>They miss their important social milestones
>They miss out on any opportunities that involve developing a real interest in something real and tangible
>They miss out on their chances for love
>They miss out on their chances to work
>Uh oh, looks like China's going to invade Taiwan and invoke WW3 any day now. And it looks like the next generation of men are too lazy to do anything about it.
>It sucks, but it looks like we'll have to import from third world countries. At least they don't have the insane, unreasonable standard of living that Millennials do.
>Cut to today
>Millennials collectively throw a society-tantrum and "drop out" of society (again).
>Millennials fail to realize they have no leverage
>And now here we are
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New Jeetcel thread just dropped!
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>>542770694
Hey hey hey no, no Indian would ever do anything so crass as to shit in the shower, no sar. He'd be a proper subcontinental and shit on the sidewalk in front of his neighbor's house.
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>>542770461
>electricity is working for every appliance in the room
>You watch people plug in and plug out of a socket multiple times, each charging their phone
>you try
>your phone doesn't charge
>"wow the electricity must not be working"
You're an actual retard.
Run along back to zach hoyt before I organize a raid of his chat and explicitly state faggots like you posting here is the reason.
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>>542770936
>Run along back to zach hoyt before I organize a raid of his chat and explicitly state faggots like you posting here is the reason.
Oh no, please don't...do that?
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>>542770788
You don't understand much of anything because you're trying to frame everything into a one-dimensional shit-take based on generational divide. Far more relevant to the question of what has gone wrong are the actions of the elite. The average boomer has zero power, the average Gen Xer has zero power, the average citizen of any age has ZERO power. Society is top down, not populistic and bottom up. If the latest iteration of the model of society doesn't work, it is the fault of the people who changed the model. Porn, social media, and all the other ills you point to didn't just emerge out of a vacuum to be spontaneously chosen, they were pushed by people with power. There would be no pornography industry without an absurdly wealthy Jew elite to push it and traitor shabbos goy politicians to legalize it and protect them.
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>>542770936
Also, can you do me a favor?

Can you say, "the male loneliness epidemic, the population decline, and the increase in consuming video games have no correlation to each other whatsoever"? Just say that statement, please. That would make my day.
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>>542770788
>basically admits he's a jeet rationalizing shit
I am in favor of mass exevuting jeets instead of sending them back.
If you send them back they'll just try again.
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>>542771092
Just so you know, whenever you deflect to intangible conspiracy theories, you are demonstrating that I am correct on some level.
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>>542771124
>0.1 correlation and 1.0 correlation are the same saar
>buy into my false dichotomy saar
Just the level of expertise and poor attempt at deception I'd expect from a jeet with fake degrees.
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>>542766479
But if you soap the rest of your body before cleaning your ass, does that not mean you have nasty ass-water running down freshly scrubbed legs? Seems kind of grotty.
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>>542764193
I see a lot of women in their 30s and 40s who rode the cock carousel now freaking out because they can't find a man to settle down with.
Sometimes, when I'm having a shitty day, I look up vids/compilations of dried up foids having meltdowns because no guy will talk to them.
Makes me feel a little bit better inside.
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>>542771283
Nope, it's a 1:1 correlation. I would go as far as to argue it IS causation. It just intrinsically makes sense - if an entire population becomes addicted to meth, that generation is done. It's dead. It can't function.

So where is the breakdown in logic? Are you denying that video game addiction exists? Because it does. Are you denying that Millennials are addicted? Because they are.
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>>542770788
>muh timelinz
>miss out
You are a slave, you are nothing more than a piece of meat to be grinded and consumed by demonic creatures, there's nothing enviable about your life, you mean nothing to either to the world, to yourself, to me or the other stupid cunts you are competing in your own stupid little rat race, your life has an expiration date you know it and when your usefulness runs out you will be replaced with even cheaper cheaper slaves who don't even have your already meager requirements. and even in such a humiliated belittled sense of identity you don't even feel enough self value as to think that your limited pathetic life is at least yours to spend as you like it... that being said you are confused and enraged about people who don't suffer from your kind of foolishness
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>>542767236
Why would the guy post his domestic abuse charge on reddit wtf
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>>542771363
We don't express pearson correlation coefficients like that jeet. You need to learn actual math.
If you did you'd know that a smaller party common to a problem always has higher correlation with it.
That means hr hiring practices are much more likely to blame.
They fail to hire employees that perform whether they are sourcing domestically and abroad.
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>>542766983
Ok there is no evil. But we keep tigers IN cages, yes?????
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>>542764193

Yes. Women are unstable and arent capable of equality
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>>542771534
>If you did you'd know that a smaller party common to a problem always has higher correlation with it.
You haven't substantiated that the smaller party IS contributing to the problem though. You literally tried to trick me by baking your conclusion into your premise. Nice try.
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>>542766659

TFM - one of the original Mgtow's - was insisting for years that women voting was the primary problem and dismissed the JQ as "conspiracy thinking".

After Oct 7th and seeing America's complete inability to say no to Israel he actually changed his position.

He was like
>God damnit the JQ people were right, they really do run America

Lol
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>>542771658
>I state the companies can't source employees that perform long term from domestic or international sources
>jeet ignores this argument
Here is the real reason you don't want to blame hr; your culture thinks leadership is about effectively displacing blame onto your subordinates.
The idea that the people responsible for hiring are responsible for hiring poorly is an anathema to your entire identity.
It's one of the main reason your country is a dysfunctional shithole that is systemically stuck 500 years in the past.
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>>542771991
Didn't read. I'm pretty sure the Occam's Razor here is that Millennials just really fucking like video games and can't stop playing them.
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>>542770061
I have a job. I make $135k/year. I am not fat or brown or short or anything like that. No woman wants to marry me. This is somehow my fault or video games' fault.
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>>542772032
Your linkedin just messaged 'nigger' to every single one of your contacts.
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>>542772114
I don't use linkedin
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>>542772040
it's because you're ugly anon
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>>542772146
Yeah you do.
Have fun getting deported visajeet.
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>>542771349
I sometimes seriously consider having a designated ass soap bar.
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>>542772186
Then why do you think banning video games will achieve anything?
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>>542772040
if you're 100% euro-blood then move, earn less and find a wife.
you're likely surrounded by third worlders and you sound a bit like a commie freak, so perhaps leave that cult first.
also, don't go near jew 'dating' apps and actually meet people in person
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>>542772465
Because he's retarded.
Think about his argument.
He is saying the competency crisis is caused by men staying home and jacking off. He is saying it has perfect correlation.
In order for that to be true, it would mean that everyone working is incompetent and everyone jacking off is talented.
He's literally arguing that watching porn makes you talented without realizing it.
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>>542765491
The joke is that women are meddlesome and they think if they don't meddle in everything all the time, the roof will fly off the house or something.

They're not just being a bother all the time, they think their bothering everybody really accomplishes something and we can't live without it.

She's in the shower trying to wash her hair really fast so she can get back to bothering everybody as soon as possible.

That's why I'm single. I figured it out. You can't just tell them it's fine, they don't believe you. How can something be fine if they don't change it and then change their mind back two minutes later? Of course it's not fine, it's the way it is, that's not fine!
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>>542772790
What have I said that sounds even remotely communist?
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>>542772040
Marriage in Western countries is a scam anyway. A woman can be a bad wife and mother, no-fault divorce you and you're still forced to pay her.

I have a buddy who's fairly red pilled but wanted a family. He had a kid with a woman but took all the "modern" steps to protect himself

-apartment is in his parents name
-separate finances
-found a woman who has a career and can support herself
-common law is unavoidable in Canada if you live together but they didn't officially get married

He said unfortunately he had to find a woman with feminist leanings who was up for this arrangement - she views it as "50/50 partnership I don't need to depend on a man" - but he did all this so he won't get totally fucked by the courts if they do split up.

I've heard so many divorce horror stories on red pill channels, I think what he did is the only sensible way to do it in 2026
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>>542773175
>In order for that to be true, it would mean that everyone working is incompetent
Yes
>and everyone jacking off is talented
No? What? Where the fuck did you get that? I'm saying you are predisposed to jerking off all day and playing video games.
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>>542764193
I feel like the kids should be able to survive for 10 minutes on their own at that age.
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>>542764193
they didn't go their own way, they just became national traitors by way of an ancient system that was put in place to take advantage of disaffected losers and weaponize them against the public at large. they did it on purpose with 100% informed consent.
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>>542767501
kek
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>>542773343
It's a natural consequence of your argument; you are saying that all the talented people are at home playing video games and jacking off.
And that all the people working are incompetent.
With a 1.0 correlation.
That means jacking off and playing video have a 1.0 correlation with being talented.
I will say this again; go learn math. Stress test your opinions. Don't just repeat shit you hear other people say.
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>>542773511
No, all of the talented people are fucking extinct. You gain intellect and wisdom through real life experiences, not through a screen. You deliberately crippled yourself as a child, thus ruining your future. I'm saying, we are experiencing a country-wide brain drain in a single generation.
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Would you care for your retarded brother if your parents died? Women are the retarded brother of the human race. They are a burden, but they are our burden to bear, and without them we cannot persist.

The societal trap of marriage, which has been a trap and has been recognized as such for centuries, exists to force us to deal with women for our own sake.
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>>542770061
Banning porn will do nothing about feminist ideology sabotaging institutions, mass immigration suppressing wage growth, inflationary fiat policies cutting spending power, high cost of shelter, family and marriage being ideologically subverted, women being poison toxic waste, the psychology of living under a repressive feminist regime, community destroyed by diversity.
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>>542773511
He's a gen x'er whose brain was crippled by childhood lead inhalation, math is beyond him.
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>>542773638
>Banning porn will do nothing about feminist ideology sabotaging institutions
It will encourage weak, effeminate men to get off their asses, get stronger and healthier, and take control of women (and be attractive to them, as a result).
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Anecdotally, I tried being gay, as if that was the cheat-code to avoiding women. I discovered that dealing with other men actually fucking sucks. I don't feel solidarity with other men, we are hyper-competitive, but also creepy coomers.
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>>542773593
Your argument is factually incorrect. Older people spend more time in front of screens. You got the opinion it was thd otherway around from a (drumroll)... screen.
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>>542773735
I think you completely misunderstand the situation we've arrived at. Porn and video games are circuses. The comforts that make the complacency even possible. If you remove them from the equation you aren't getting a sudden burst of productivity and renewed enslavement - You're getting complete societal upheaval
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>>542773933
Retard, they are ALLOWED to do that. The whole fucking POINT of a society is for the next generation to take up the mantle of responsibility. They are too fucking OLD to work you fucking RETARD.
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>>542773412
>national traitors

Nah the managerial "elite" decided to empower women at men's expense from the 1960's onward because they realized women are more conformist and easier to manipulate with emotional arguments and social pressure. They'll vote the way they're told to, be good little worker drones and not ask too many questions.
Women used to depend on their husbands and fathers, the government usurped that role and now women depend on the government in the form of welfare or DEI sinecure jobs.
So now the political equation is women + big government vs men.

The government turned men and women into adversarial political classes to get more power for itself. Men of this generation never signed up for this, they're simply reacting to incentives
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>>542774012
>Porn and video games are circuses. The comforts that make the complacency even possible.
You are, actually, slightly correct. There are a lot of popular video game lobbyist groups (including Steam, funnily enough) that strike down all legislation that could undercut their bottom line. These giant companies ARE trying to pacify you.

But the problem is that you're all old enough to know this isn't good for you, but you choose to engage in it anyway. Because you're nation-traitors.
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>>542774050
Would you agree to an upper limit on voting ages? Since the older people aren't meant to be responsible and all.

I'd suggest voting be limited to ages 25-45.
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>>542774177
If we agreed to an addictive media ban, and state-enforced character building programs to rehabilitate Millennials into the real world? Unironically, yes. I would probably bump it to 35 to 50, just because Millennials are so utterly populist-brained now. It'll take some time in the real world to break their irrational idealism.
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>>542774050
Data doesn't support that either.
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>>542774325
35-50 would almost entirely limit it to Millennials. You'd block off one or two of the younger years and allow a few of the younger gen x'er years but overall, it'd basically be Millennials only. Not bad!
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>>542774481
I'll admit this is entirely anecdotal, but it feels intuitive: it feels like the rot began in 1995. That generation onward needs to be memetically quarantined.
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>>542774548
That's gen z. Gen x are their parents and did a shit job raising them mainly because gen x all suffered severe brain damage from breathing leaded gasoline as children.
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>>542774629
Is that gen z? I always thought Millennials = 90s kids.
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>>542765658
>get in, get wet
>soap up pits crotch and feet
>1st rinse
>shampoo
>second rinse
>soap up washcloth and scrub all over
>final rinse
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>>542774094
>Men of this generation never signed up for this, they're simply reacting to incentives
that's not what I'm gonna tell people when you're gone
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>>542764193
>woman discovers being a mom is the woman's job
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>>542774697
>refuses to respond to me pointing out that millennials work the same number of hours boomers did when they were 30 years old
Your belief is factually incorrect.
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>542767501
holy fucking lol
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>>542774863
I'm going to go with the intuitive truth that gamers are kind of just lazy. You're not going to convince me that there is some special, unique ubermenschen who wakes up, jogs, works out, reads proper literature and philosophy, and comes home to play the newest FFXIV update. That person isn't a majority. Sorry.
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>>542774982
SATURN
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>>542764193
I feel like recently I've gone my own way, I just don't really care anymore.
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>>542774960
Your "intuition" is being a bored old man trying to create drama and dictate how other people spend their free time. My grandfather had people like you figured out and he was 100% correct. It's the reason the only white people you see at protests are boomers and women; they are bored busybodies.
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>>542773593
Intellect is 90% genetics
Wisdom is acquired through experiences yeah, but our smart people are checking out of society because they correctly estimate it as a rigged game that isnt worth participating in.
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>>542764193
Some of the reasoning is sound but to actually formalise it is self defeating and performative and feminine. That's the paradox.

Same with being an incel. It's a boomerism but if you think you're a total loser other people will too

Ultimately men and women are two halves of a whole and we will disappear if we don't figure thks shit out.
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>>542764193
women have this uncanny ability to think that the way they do things is "normal" and thus men should also do things just they way they do (and get upset when we don't?)
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>>542775339
It's not, I'm sorry. You can have all of the genetic predisposition you want, but at the end of the day the mind needs proper cultivating at childhood in order to be a healthy human being.
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>>542775618
>I'm sorry, my feelings matter more than your facts
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>>542768720
James and the giant peach
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>>542775653
You're literally trying to convince me that the sky is purple. You post-hoc came to a conclusion, and used specific data points to support your claim. At least my post-hoc conclusions are pretty universal, and the only people who would disagree with my critique are the very people I'm criticizing.
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>>542765491
No. Kids will pester mom all day while dad can just move about unmolested
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>>542773198
My long lost twin brother.
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>>542764193
same but I'd also fart loudly as I'm walking out of there and then yell TURBO BOOST and start sprinting to the bathroom
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>>542765658
The warm water is also a substitute for a lack of physical contact with another human bean of the female species, therefore I don't really bother to shower any shorter.
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>>542767802
>muh jewish fairytales
you have to be 18+ to post here
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>>542766241
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>>542764193
Why does she lock the door in her own home?
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>>542775710
>my original argument is that young people aren't working because of video game addiction
>anon shows me that older people are more addicted to screens
>he also showed me that federal tax return data proves that young people work just as much as my generation did
>Instead of acknowledging this, I am just going to repeat myself
Do you want to know why you are bored? You're alone. Most people can't stand to be around someone as dishonest as you. You have shifted goalposts twice just in this thread.
Instead of accepting that your behavior is the reason your family avoids you, you have rationalized that "they are just bad kids who were raised wrong", completely oblivious to the fact that means YOU raised them wrong.
Your entire worldview is centered around displacing accountability. That's why my initial response that the people responsible for hiring and filling positions fucked up in hiring and filling positions confounded you.
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>>542764193
There's no such thing as mgtow. There's mstow.
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>>542768504
What do you care about losing or keeping your shit if you're going to die childless?
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>>542776271
men strolling their own way?
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>>542765658
Face, armpits, crotch, asshole. In that order.
Only takes 2 minutes if you're not exhausted.
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>>542776522
men sent their own way
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>>542765491
I think it's supposed to be a bit self-deprecating and it kind of shows the difference between how women and men parent.
I'll give you an example from my own life: the other morning my wife woke up before me and decided to take the kids downstairs make them breakfast and stuff. The whole procedure probably took about 55 minutes.
The following day I get up and I get the kids ready. The whole thing takes me 15 minutes.

>How did you do that so fast?
>Why did they behave so well for you?
>Did you check the weather before dressing them? What about what they're eating at school? Did they use the bathroom yet? Little Timmy doesn't like grapes so why did you give him grapes etc. etc.
>Why are you letting them play with pots and pans? aren't you worried they're going to wreck our pans or hurt themselves?
As we were talking I kind of realized what's going on: every morning she's making a hundred tiny decisions that accumulate, micromanaging behaviors, and she's forecasting a million little things, like whether letting them play with pans going to lead to them hitting each other with the pans or something like that.
I'm not weighing a single one of my decisions. I'm taking the fastest, easiest route to every objective while she's playing every fucking side quest on the way there. I'm letting the kids engage in weird little kid behaviors because 1) I think they're funny and 2) I want them to explore and understand things on their own terms (within reason), so if Little Timmy drops a pot on his toe and it hurts he'll understand why he shouldn't play with pots without me having to explain why a hundred times and dictate every moment of his day.
I'm not saying that my parenting is better, rather that we have complimentary styles. It's why parents are supposed to come in pairs.
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>>542776590
These simps will never accept that women in hr are only hiring women and importing if they can't.
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>>542772220
Soap bar for body, liquid soap for butt
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>>542770700
checked for eternal pussy addict
the fact that you can't grasp that men can be fed up with women indicates that you truly have no experience with women
>>542770061
>We're facing a real-time incompetency crisis
well then the best way to deal with this is to make good incentives for going into these fields
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>>542770061
It's not incompetence.
It's demotivation and demoralisation.
Where there's passion, there's learning and consequent skill.
If you're just there to plug a job's vacant hole, you might not be passionate and don't learn as quickly, and if your leaders browbeat you every hour you're gonna be demotivated to do your best.
If all you're getting is your salary and barking, why would you be a cuck and put in the extra effort? You're not getting bonuses or promotions anyway.
And worse, if you do put in the effort and get too good at your job, you make others look bad and get released from your job.

The way business culture is right now, you're discouraged from doing your best.
You can thank dumbass boomers for that.
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>>542769909
>I generally like Sen. Hawley
you must be stupid and 60 years old.
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>>542776859
Brother, have you literally never read Eastern philosophy? Or, fuck, have you EVER watched an anime?

Passion is honed. Passion is repetition. Passion is the EPITOME of hard work, not the reverse. If life were that easy there would literally never be any problems on earth. Ever.
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>>542771508
Because it's trolling
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>>542764193
I go type so much about this for hours that it breaks the character limit. MGTOW survives with people bitching about it. It was censored to oblivion and tradcucks thought that if they punish people for thoughtcrimes then those guys will have no choice but to man up for sluts and whores. Tradcucks failed though since the birth rates and marriage rates never recovered.
It's hard being a non-Chad male and living in western culture. People call you privileged, blame you for everything and mistreat you and then they expect you to man up and carry society on your shoulders.
The ideas of MGTOW never died though because the root issues were never addressed. Women only wanting Chad and society alienating non-Chad males never stopped. So you see guys talking in ways that are similar to MGTOW. It's become the default. Women think they are victims because most guys aren't Chad so many guys are FORCED to go their own way.
I do understand though, some criticisms against it. At a certain point, the rage against women and society becomes so corrosive that it starts to affect you. You spew so much venom that your blood becomes poisonous. I can't blame those guys, but I would recommend better ways to use their energy. Also the freedom and independence that we all want for ourselves must never die. That means there are many things, not just women, that you should walk away from. Never be a pawn or a slave for other people's agendas. The tradcucks who oppose MGTOW were more bitter and resentful than MGTOW guys, by the way. I will always find it amazing that tradcucks failed in their goals. Much of what people think about relationships is based on outdated mores from past phases of civilization. Women have been liberated from their roles but men haven't, and tradcucks are hypocrites who think there is nothing wrong with that.
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>>542765491
no women are fucking retarded
they'll shout across the house for you ten times in an hour regardless of what you're doing, but if you come and ask a question once while they're having their "me time" you are villainized for it
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>>542771124
>the male loneliness epidemic
i only ever hear women talk about this
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>>542774129
You have untreated schizophrenia, you should have it checked out.
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>>542777119
You just hit the nail on the head.
The entire thing is just mass projection pushed by the media.
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>>542773412
>being by yourself is treason
wew, some fuckers really see men as their personal slaves
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>>542777003
>Passion is honed. Passion is repetition
Wrong, passion is inherent, honed by your upbringing and culture, repetition is done thanks to passion not the other way
Stop watching shitty animes
>Passion is the EPITOME of hard work
It is the reverse.
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>>542764193
Women never figure out that passive-aggressive mind reading is a poor communication technique and emotions are not reality.
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>>542777432
Just ignore him, that gen xer is literally wrong about everything.
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>>542764193
Because it's a movement without endless goals.
Feminism can keep going and going because there's always something new to fight for, like killing your children after they were born. Same with fag rights. Or enviromentalism.
MGTOW was simply anout men disconnecting from the femoid bullshit. Many men did that and their lives became better. Once they've experienced that, they're not gonna make the wemen mistake again. Grifters on youtube made money on tshirts and moved on too, since they were losing views. Now there arw things like incel movement and no pussy no work, because selling the same idea under a new name is a good marketing strategy, but the result is the same. Once you realize how much time and money you've wasted on biocunts, it doesn't take much to see that watching some dudes on youtube telling you all about foids is also a waste of time (and possibly money).
An those movements never even got a lot of followers. Most free men reach those conclusions independently, through their own experiences and first hand stories.
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>>542764193
Isolated a lot of sexless incels and hopefully a few of them killed themselves improving the lives of those around them
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>>542771363
>List 3 factors
>1:1 correlation
Retarded fucking jeet, parroting things you were told by some LLM.
Shitskins know how to make tea.
Shitskins don't understand how tea is made.
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>>542776271
>Shitting on the floor
She married an Indian
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>>542776590
see >>542776857
>the fact that you can't grasp that men can be fed up with women indicates that you truly have no experience with women
incels really are womens biggest fans
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>>542765491
I know right?! Women take a shower until the hot water is gone, which is way more than 10 minutes.
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>>542777119
I don't get lonely, ever. In fact, I live on my own for the first time in my life and it's the greatest thing ever. Don't think I'll ever live with someone again.
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>>542764193
Any movement that boils down to "just give up bro" is a psyop designed to destroy white men and any of you who follow this are retarded. Almost any movement or ideology pushed here boils down to giving up because you are all pathetic losers who already gave up and want to attach a phony movement to you giving up to pretend you have purpose.
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Humans are supposed to have sex make babies eat dance at festivals craft funny stuff wear cool clothes and be nice to each other
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>>542764193
It got roe v. wade struck down.
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>>542777003
And what do boys get told as kids?
>No you can't work on that you must study this now
>No stay here and stay quiet I'm teaching now
>No you can't play that sport we're playing a different sport now
>No you can't fight back, that's violence and that's bad
>No
>No
>No
Never an affirmative or an encouragement.
Eventually guys just give up and they develop their own passion away from the workforce.
You could call it a hobby but the underlying love for the activity is the same.
And why do they keep that away from the workforce? Because they get told no there too.

Yes I have watched anime, Dragon Ball and DBZ.
People bitch that Gohan pussies out in the Buu Saga and failed Earth because he spent all his time studying like his mom told him to instead of training hard as his passion told him to.
That's precisely the point. He should be weak, because that's what happens when you're discouraged by your environment from pursuing your passions.
1 year with his dad in the hyperbolic time chamber and he's stronger than Cell as soon as he is told this lesson by #16 and watches pure evil destroy #16, and makes the decision to enact his passion to protect everything he loves.
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT CHILDREN ARE TOLD IS EVIL BY THEIR RETARDED TEACHERS IN SCHOOL.
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>>542777235
and the funny thing is, i have seen dozens of articles that, in one way or the other, cry out for men to come back
>>542777648
>hates shy or ugly guys
how gay are you?
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>in hindsight
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>>542765491
The Epic of Gilgamesh as well as Mark Twain’s works on Adam and Eve explain the dynamic of this. In short, women are retarded and over estimate their abilities constantly, they are incapable of empathy and confuse it with sympathy, and have a constant need to prove themselves due to their infinite insecurity. Part of the insecurity stems from men generally not giving a shit about what the woman perceives as important and will hen peck everyone into action, thinking they are being a strong leader/organizer where instead they are just some retarded girl boss who should instead focus on doing that work herself.
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>>542764193
>What did it actually accomplish?
Marriage is dead. Men went their own way right according to the goal.
Mission accomplished
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>>542776131
Living hell.
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>>542777977
checked
yeah, going back after experiencing the stress free sensation that is being by oneself is impossible for me
>>542778017
>"just give up bro"
you clearly didn't understand the philosophy. it really is the opposite of what you think it is
embrace yourself, don't let other people dictate your own worth to you and most important, don't feed the beast that wants to eat you
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>>542777849
But why you are fed up with them?
It's not a natural and healthy way of being to be unable to stand the other sex when you're part of a gonochoric species. Surely everyone would agree with that premise.
The reason you are fed up with them is because their nature has been liberated to the point it's now suffocating and destroying male nature.
In order to avoid this suffocation you get away from them, you "go your own way". But in reality it was them who sent you that way. Your other choice was to be suffocated. You never had a choice to begin with.
Is there something special about it being your choice or not? I don't think so. Feel free to say what about this doesn't make sense, I would like to hear it.
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>>542769590
Josh Hawley fucks teenage rent boys on grindr.
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>>542764193
>What did it actually accomplish?
Nothing. It couldn't, such movements are grievance-based and men are terrible at organized complaining.

READ THE MISANDRY BUBBLE
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>>542778479
>Nothing
Lol. >>542778352
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>>542778421
I understand the philosophy. Give up. Don't get a woman. Don't start a family goy that's bad just stay home all day and play videos games.

Also stop pretending the average person who believes this is some person who can get a woman. The majority of you can't. You probably could if you fixed some things in your life but that's hard this is easier. I don't know why I come to this site anymore because all you losers drag people down
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I've been itchen my butthole

Feels good
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>>542770461
>dangers of escapism
>DADDY PLEASE DON'T BEAT ME AGAIN I'M SORRY I WATCHED CARTOONS!!!!
Every one of you freaks is the product of severe child abuse.
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>>542766241
>I didn't buy enough peaches for my kids to eat
>Oh well, they can eat the seed heads of grass
>I'll leave them this one fruit they can all fight over though
Female parenting. If women were in charge of diets we'd all be vegan.
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>>542765892
Kek
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>>542764193
Men only want one thing
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>>542774771
>washcloth
dark skin detected
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>>542766983
>Evil implies intent and choice.
mens rea pussyhat logic
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>>542778425
>But why you are fed up with them?
they are vapid, boring and support the most retarded shit
i need to love a women to spend time with her,a nd i haven't been in love for over two decades
>It's not a natural and healthy way of being to be unable to stand the other sex
kek, as long as we can write, men have been talking about how unbearable women are
most of human history, we had the male and the female world. and these worlds only meshed on festivities and during sex
today is a different story, with women allowed into every space, but that is neither the norm nor natural
>In order to avoid this suffocation you get away from them, you "go your own way". But in reality it was them who sent you that way.
it was my choice to avoid this drama
if you want to, you could say jews made me hate them ("send my way")
i would say that i decided that jewish behavior is disgusting and that's the reason i hate them (went my way)
hope this helps to understand my standpoint
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>>542776367
One outcome is farming runescape gold for 60 years for schlomo, only to give all your possessions to someone who backstabs you.
The other is to just do none of that and cum inside random women overseas you never see again, while working part-time or not at all.
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>>542775923
shitass lies
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>>542778558
>Give up. Don't get a woman. Don't start a family goy that's bad just stay home all day and play videos games.


>Also stop pretending the average person who believes this is some person who can get a woman. The majority of you can't


Do you really not see your blatantly obvious contradictory? Or are you just really that disingenuous? Kek, holy cow batman.
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>>542776367
you lose both your kids and your shit in a divorce champ
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>>542770061
If I talk to boomers none of them read, the only readers I know are family members.
Also none of them speak a second language, but me and my zoomer buddies are all learning new languages.

So it's just an inversion of reality, these people in their 20's did nothing but drugs and sex. Zoomers for the most part are doing WAY more than past generations in terms of anything at all that's a real skill or helps your brain, it's just that we don't live in a society anymore so you can't have children.
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>>542778830
Women are indeed unbearable beyond a certain point of maturity. I should've fucked around when I was in my 20s, now the mere idea of speaking to a woman already puts me off. The only reason left to marry is to fulfill my duty and found a family, and to have legit sex without being a whore.
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>>542775923
She conveniently forgets husband's 50h/week wagielife.
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>>542779051
true, the "hormone glasses" made it easier to overlook womens behavior
as the libido calms down, this becomes more and more difficult
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>>542771760
Is that so? Some people really are just that dense, then. Kirk was the same.
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>>542764193
This woman sounds insuferable
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>>542777007
>Women have been liberated from their roles but men haven't
Thats a pretty sharp analysis
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>>542766241
retarded bitch:
>ill save it for the kids
kids:
>someone will complain if I eat the last one
>*peach goes bad*
retarded bitch:
>"oh my god why did no one eat the fucking peach"
women...
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>>542771165
Lmao, the chutzpa.
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>>542778558
>p-please marry the bloated post wall roast I can't make child support payments for her 4 mocha coloured kids of mysterious parentage anymore and I need you to take my bags please if you don't do it you're a hitler incel chud.

Sorry tradcuck I'm just not gonna do it. I know I know I'm sent my own way anf Lil' Squinchelderious needs a Dad but I'm just not going to do it is all lol.

>>542777007
The most interesting feature of the tradcuck worldview is that they nearly always accidentally present the most scathing indictments of women and society possible in their efforts to defend them. They'll tell you with a straight face that men don't have careers or relationships with women anymore because games and anime have evil hypnotic powers, and they'll somehow to fail to grasp that they just said women and a place in society can't compete with Factorio.
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>>542764193
He just left! With peaches!
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>>542767331
this deserves way more (you)’s. take mine humble purveyor of fine memes
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>>542776616
Pretty much this. I have 3 boys, the oldest is 7 and the youngest is 18 months.

My wife isn't as overbearing and mostly let's the kids explore, but is naturally more concerned about the minutae of every action and each possible consequence. I let the boys explore and learn, and only really step in if they are doing something destructive to the house or something where they can really get hurt, like climbing furniture and trying to jump off in a way that's beyond their capabilities, or playing with something sharp and dangerous like a fork. Boys especially need space to explore and learn, and boys typically learn from experience and when playing in a less structured environment. They're all very intelligent and have a healthy appreciation for risks, without being coddled or smothered by womanly neuroses.

Even the youngest understands that he can play with his toys or with his brothers on his own, and doesn't need to constantly follow me or my wife around the house. As soon as boys learn how to walk, and even before that honestly, they naturally begin to develop independence, preferences, and their own opinions.

If they need me for something, obviously I engage them and help them out, or talk through something with them. I am present for their needs, without directing their behavior unless its legitimately dangerous or they're fighting. The job of the father is to provide, teach skills, teach independence, and provide discipline when needed.
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>>542766241
My girl just said "accurate" what do
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>>542779300
This is actually what happens. 10/10 bong
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>>542770061
ok boomer. we've been hearing about the competency crisis for two decades now with 70+ year old people in management/government that won't fucking retire. Any older man that actually worked in a difficult industry already made their money and fucked off. We're just experiencing stratification of classes, workers, and output. High earners and contributors are doing more than ever with AI and automation tools and working class people are suffering more than ever. People are not getting dumber, it's just going back to where it was before people were artificially propped up by decades of opportunity. There's lots of problems socially right now with global population collapse, food security issues, cost crisis, etc, but competency is not one of them
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>>542778830
>as long as we can write, men have been talking about how unbearable women are
Not really. Troy is all about Helen. There are plenty of poems and songs and stories about love and being in love with a woman. That thing being the whole raison d'etre that gives meaning to a lot of regular men's lives.
You can say it's all a projection of the male mind fantasizing about a female that never existed but what matters here is that there is a want to be together instead of a repulsion. The modern times are not normal.
>it was my choice to avoid this drama
I don't know. If you were born 200 years ago you wouldn't have that drama because female nature was still contained and given order. It is not in your nature to withstand the chaos that comes with a society where female nature is running wild. So was it really (y)our choice? I'm not arguing for determinism but I find it hard to say. I think the world sent you that way.
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>>542770061
lmao look at all these idiots taking this shit bait
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>>542779902
Refer her to the truly accurate one right here
>>542767331
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>>542775612
Kek
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>>542778919
>you lose both your kids and your shit in a divorce champ
>you lose your kids
Do they kill your kids when you divorce in Canada now? Truly the hecking leaders of blackpill. The Europeon just doesn't get it.
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Can some make this the husband holding the peach ?
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>>542764193
Holy FUCK men are such toxic narcissists
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>>542780130
Well if it’s anything like the USA, the wife gets the kids and their address is completely obfuscated in court. Any attempt to see them outside of when your ex dictates is automatically flagged as unsafe behavior. If you get stuck without phone service somewhere with them and fail to bring them back by check in, they WILL issue an amber alert and you will be charged with kidnapping if they feel like it. They really aren’t your kids, they’re just little money-trees for the state, and your ex is the official heckin’ steward of that nice little orchard they’ve got out back.
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>>542764193
>In hindsight, was the Men Going Their Own Way movement justified? What did it actually accomplish?
--- MGTOW was justified. It exposed women and their true nature and plans. It was like mice teaching other mice what a mousetrap was. What a CAT can do to them.
--- How do you need to "justify" telling the truth.
--- accomplish? more men know about the true nature of women.
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>>542780066
Correct. The logical conclusion is a gorillion "lone wolf" men abandoning the illogical female system resulting in brain drain and civilizational collapse. Then a rapid reversion to earlier systems. Don't mess with human biology. A woman is supposed to be a bedrock of logic that convinces an individualist man to stick around. Sex is and always has been secondary. Encouraging women to only know the bare minimum to survive in a service economy and party rock downtown is the antithesis of femininity, therefore the fundamental human generational system falls apart. Society disintegrates. Their meager contributions to male business is simply an attempt at risk aversion. They same biological role they played in the family unit. This is laughably apparent in their employment in human daycares like schools and nursing.
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>>542766983

Women don't lack agency, they lack responsibility because they're used to men doing their bidding and can always shift blame
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>>542765491
no, that roastie has been doing this shit for years.
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>>542775923
>I don’t think my husband does enough
>should I gently tell him this in a private conversation or put him on blast for thousands of strangers’ amusement
Love from Kazakhstan
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>>542780332
lol the female sex commits statutory rape and then collects child support from the victim

Inb4 sarcasm, I just want to make men aware that this is a thing and am using your ambiguous post as a vehicle
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>>542775923
I"m married to a wonderful woman, but that shit on the left of this image is her. She complains that she HAS to do all that stuff, but if I try to do it, or point out that we don't NEED to do like half the stuff she insists on doing, she won't allow it and it becomes a thing because it wouldn't be done "right". I learned a long time ago (married 20 years) to just let her do all the trip planning and packing and deal with any complaining (by just ignoring it) that she has to do it all then to try and do any of it for her.

I've literally told her that's what I'm doing and gave her a choice: I'll plan the trip and she doesn't need to lift a finger, but she needs to be okay with how i plan it, or she can plan it but when she complains how she has to do it all, I won't listen. I've said how we should be doing it together, but she has this need to be the one doing everything and insists on having everything planned out. I've wanted to just do a spontaneous weekend trip, grab a few things in a bag and drive somewhere, she just can't.
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>>542780550
It would be laughable if parasitic financial powerhouses weren’t using their daycare jobs to act as a wealth funnel to impoverish the actual workers that create our infrastructure
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>>542780715
Oh it's still laughable because when the top blows off they'll be disintegrated in the plasma
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>>542770061
I will bet you dollars to donuts this guy is an absolutely raging homgay who is into the most perverted and vile shit you can ever imagine.
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>>542780066
>Troy is all about Helen
a king can't let others steal his wife. one could argue that doing something about this has more to do with his reputation to other men
>There are plenty of poems and songs and stories about love and being in love with a woman
that is one important point. love and lust, the biological thumb screws for procreation
without it, men would have nothing to do with women
>You can say it's all a projection of the male mind fantasizing about a female that never existed
true, i call it the collective male fanfiction on women. now that female behavior is out in the open, made visible by the internet, romantic love is dying out, hence the topic of MGTOW and falling marriage rates
>The modern times are not normal
yes and no. in one case, the modern world is far away from natural human life. but on the other hand, we have eliminated most woes in regard of material safety, that women can (and do) act exactly like nature has created them, because they don't need to take formerly life saving moves (securing a protector and provider, these are decoupled from individual man via the state) into account
>I think the world sent you that way
the same way a guy sent me that way if he is an asshole to me unprovoced
why would i chose to be around an asshole?
it still is my choice to turn my back or to endure a bad deal
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>>542773735
Many countries have banned porn in the internet age, like India. Absolutely nothing that tradcons swear would result has resulted.

Unsurprising, since they are motivated by superstition and not the empirical results of their policies.
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>>542780583
>should I gently tell him this in a private conversation or put him on blast for thousands of strangers’ amusement
How about both?
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>>542780846
You're pretending like women are able to slide perpendicularly into male roles like the state. Rather modern female degeneracy is an attempt to redirect their energy (maliciously) after being severed from femininity, and it's failing spectacularly
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>>542770461
>isolated generation that isn't getting married
Women worth marrying are an endangered species. At best you can get a narcissistic pseudo-male who expects you to solve all her problems, but won't lift a finger to help with yours.
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>>542770061
The most realistic outcome is increased demand for prostitution which is worse on every issue this retard mentions. But tradcons want to feel based more than they actually want to address the ostensible reasons they dislike porn.
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>>542781096
Why would the financialists and industrialists actually attempt to fix the problem when it would nuke the economy? Just keep duct taping the scaffolding and tell people you fixed the problem
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>>542780915
The damage social media has done to the social fabric and the female brain dwarfs even the highest, most exaggerated damage estimates porn has done to men's brains. Social media is more harmful to women's behavior than hard drugs.
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>>542764193
>What did it actually accomplish?
nothing
just a bunch of goyim having meltdown in typical gentile fashion
you will never undo feminism and it will consume your society to the bone , well, at least until islam comes around and burns whatever's left.
never give women rights, the talmud says it plainly: beat your wife when she gets out of line.
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>>542764193
>im a narcicist control freak that thinks everybody needs me all the time
K babe, have fun
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>>542780948
i truly hope that this is an edit
>>542780984
>You're pretending like women are able to slide perpendicularly into male roles like the state
i don't say that women can slip into male roles
i just stated that women dependence on men was changed from
>need an individual man to guard and feed her, forcing her to bind said man by bearing him children
to
>state takes from all men and give to all women, regardless of them getting kids
thereby eliminating a force that kept women in line
a woman can be mean and bitter, she stillg ets "husband" money from the state
men are no longer able to withhold stuff and services as a bargaining tool
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>>542780342
So what?
As long as she's somewhat normal and doesn't try to hurt them, you still reproduced. It's not an ideal situation but way overblown by people in these spaces imo.
>>542780550
Instead of a magnificent collapse what will actually happen is genetic replacement and a gradual re-balance into a state of being that is more harmonious. There is no inherent reason why a society of 'simps' can't work once tech is advanced enough to squash outside threats. You are opting out of the gene pool but the simp is not. Even if there is a collapse it will be slow and gradual.
Thinking civilizationally in a timeframe of centuries is... misguided. If you don't reproduce your thoughts don't matter.
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>>542781172
Women lack any and all guidance, their mothers and peers are abject failures. This was a problem before social media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHD8tLvoDww
>>542781277
The fundamental problem is nobody wants to define what a woman is, the only reason they can get away with horrible behavior is because they have no sense of self. The state reinforces that because of women had self reflection and actual goals they wouldn't be showing up to work
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>>542768019
>This is the same comic that turned a fucking peach lying on the counter in the kitchen into a missndrist meme. She's a passive aggressive psychopath destroying her own happiness because she wants to look like a victim.
I imagine both her and the husband sitting there laughing together, wondering why the comic is successful.
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>>542781282
Nobody's simping anymore, their psyop failed. Women are alone and insane
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There is nothing women hate more than taking care of their children



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