What caused their mentality?(Ukrained included)
They just love everyone so much.
>>542764928Cold tomato soup for dinner everyday.
>>542764955They clearly don't>>542764972It's good, no issue with that
>>542764928a state-run media network goes a long way
>>542765035To prawda
>>542764928Faustian Siberian Spirit
>>542764928Centuries of serfdom have buck broken them genetically
>>542765117Its not faustian if you live in poverty
>>542765004Everyday?Even lobster everyday would make you go some thing some thing.
>>542765252Maybe not everyday, but has its nutreins
An intergenerational minority complexThey are still butthurt at the perfidious abloins, bc they fucked them over at the crimean war
>>542764928Probably had something to do with all their friends and allies getting couped or outright invaded by NATO countries or just straight up bombed under the NATO flag
>>542764928Repressed society-wide homosexuality.
>>542764928Polish retard, look at USA. They have the same mentality- siege mentality.Poland is the same, retard
>>542764928Life so miserable that they want to enact it on everyone else.
Being a mutt race of buckbroken slaves.
>>542764928male on male rape on a national scale
>>542764928jews since they are perfect goym for starting wars against fellow europeans.
>>542764928
They have no frontiers, just unending flat expanses. And they also have multicultural society before it was cool. Add the two together and you have a very paranoid society. Borders have to expand to offer security but then expanded again to secure the new territory, ad infinitum. And inside the country theres a great fear of spies, revolutionary factions, enemy agents because the place is so massive and diverse that you cant possibly police or secure it.And also most of the population are really just well clothed peasants, so there is still massive ignorance.
>>542768527Yes! Hahaha!
They're pale mongols, that's it.
they have jews on their borders who keep attacking them?
>>542764928forced gay sex
>>542764928Long cold winters + the continuous existential threat from every side due to hard-to-defend geography + the abundance of natural resourcesThese are the main pillars I think.
>>542764928unironically buckbrocken from Barbarossa
>>542764928the mongols.
>>542764928buckbroken by bolsheviks
>>542764928commie niggers literally killed anyone who showed signs of thinking for themselves and not being retard cattle. all you had to do to get gulag'd unders Stalin was wear glasses. the result is the zigger.
>>542768914well summarized
>>542764928JEWS, before these scum came they were relatively normal beings, compared to the natural conditions and the wealth they were living with
>>542764928It's easy. The peasantry in Russia were effectively feudal slaves until the 19th century. That is a similar state to a lot of asian countries.What Russia's dumb (western-infested) monarchy did however is to suddenly free them all.You'd think that'd be good, but for serfs that have lived with certain guarantees for 1000 years the result is that they got to see the lucky favorite serfs of the noble landlords become ridiculously rich by modern standards with land grants, while they became paupers overnight. Now instead of working the land as a birthright, they were told they needed to develop skills and compete from the worst social position possible.So they went from serfs and slaves in traditional countrisides to living trash in city gutters, and that's what a majority of Russians identified with freedom henceforth. China had a similar issue, which is why both countries thirsted for communism. They didn't want to be slaves to the nobles who had used them and thrown them away, they wanted a magical government of themselves to guarantee their lives like the noble overlords had done. Hence communism.Today their mentality is the same. The Ukrainians for example want to be slaves to the Europeans and they will do anything for it. In the Ukrainian mind any slavery Europe gives them will be many times better than the pathetic independence they had so far. And the people they least trust are their own, which is why they are also delusional in trying to claim they're not the same as Russians, which they absolutely are in every way that matters, like culture, language and haplogroups. Want proof? When COVID hit, the ukrainians stages protests against their own quarantined people returning to the country. They would have liked them to die abroad as if they were foreigners. That's the fundamental self-hate of a slave given freedom and proof of his greatest fear in life: that he's actually worthless.
>>542764928They never achieved their colonial ambitions like the rest of Europe did. They are just bitter
>>542764928they are turan civilisation, google "turan" out and russians in paticular were told by they leaders for last 200 years that they are an empire everyone is afraid ofimagine how much buck broken they had to feel after all media screamed 2 weeks (and ucraine will colapse)
>>542769691Nonsense. The 1861 reform was far more complex and ambiguous. The main causes of impoverishment were redemption payments and the commune, not “freedom.” Catherine II initially wanted to abolish serfdom, but after studying Russia she strengthened the rights of the nobility and destroyed the rights of the peasantry. “It cannot be otherwise” is not a justification but a diagnosis. The thesis about a “slave mentality” as an anachronism can easily be rejected by pointing out that the peasants resisted (more than 1,370 disturbances in the first five months of 1861), rather than passively accepting “guarantees.”The Russian Empire always tried to adapt to the parts it annexed—the most striking example being the church schism for the sake of annexing the Kyiv Metropolis. For the sake of a geopolitical goal—the integration of new territories and the creation of the “Third Rome”—the authorities sacrificed the age-old religious tradition of their own indigenous population.
>>542764928We wuz empire blyat!
>>542770982I'm not trying to make your people or the Russian Empire look bad. You can spin it and justify it, but there is a fundamental truth in the asian continent, which might be a fundamental truth of humanity that we must confront. That slavery and servitude is the natural state of life when "property" is established as a concept. Russians like the Chinese might be very different people, but the truth of confronting Russians and Ukrainians is that they will both be ready to kill you if you insult what they perceive their honor, which is not the honor of an individual, it's the honor of someone who is looking for someone to blame and deflect to a group. You can call a Russian shit and he will laugh if off. You can call him a servant and he will hate you. A westerner is the opposite.That is also what you're doing in your post. You're using considerable analytical intelligence and a good debating compromise to dodge a factual reality. You're not contradicting my point at all, if you notice. That Russians do not understand, nor appreciate freedom in the same way westerners do, as freedom to act, rather than freedom from responsibility and judgementThe western people are dangerously close to shifting to that mentality, and our governments are actually pushing for it. So we must bravely expose what is happening to us and has happened in the asian continent in the 19th century. Individual freedom is terrifying and leads to hubris, but collective freedom from personal responsibility is comfortable slavery. There is no natural middle way. We need a religion and culture that counteracts both. As competent as Putin is, for instance, he is one man, and cannot be responsible for a whole nation's pride and future, for instance. But "Democracy" isn't the answer either. The answer is in enforcing personal responsibility and the possibility that you might be worthless, but that can build your worth with your own hands and prove your worth at any time. It's the only way.
>>542772672The poverty of the peasants after 1861 is easily explained not by ‘freedom’ but by redemption payments and the commune. If you want to dispute this, dispute the facts, not attribute to me an ‘evasion of reality.’
>>542764928Hard times create drunk rapists. Seriously though, the average Russian should be pretty well off and educated. They are better off than they were, but just as the ussr were kind of bandits some other bandits bandited them
>>542774588Russian fourth-grade graduates regularly take 1st place in the world in reading quality and text comprehension, demonstrating absolute leadership among dozens of countries. Second place is usually Singapore. Third place is taken by Hong Kong.
>>542774800damn they can comprehend text so fast they even read what's on ukrainian drones before they get killed
>>542774910Ukrainians were writing that their country had $2 trillion in damage, while roughly $1 trillion in loans was foisted on them. In short, to roll back to February 24, 2022, they need to shit out $3 trillion somewhere.
>>542774800Don't get me wrongI don't think you are stupid, vertically you probably mog the shit out of us (Australia used to have an incredible manufacturing/innovation sector but we bought the retard services meme and are now fat and gay). It's more on the horizontal. The wider populaceRussia has so much wealth it's the same situation. The richest Russian could eat the richest Australian's breakfast but what about the average person.Not even criticising, you have to pull yourself through some real tough shit. WW1 had a similar bleeding effect on our population that goes unacknowledged.But that's also why I don't get the current war. Seems like such a waste of life.
>>542766647This is the correct answer
Getting raped and mongrelized by Mongols for hundreds of years.
>>542775614The Mongols, even as part of the Horde, were quite progressive and politically well-organized. They collapsed solely because they conquered too much, and ruling such a colossus without proper communication at the time was impossible.
>>542772672You're applying a very direct, Italian way of thinking. Traditional Anglo Saxons similarly are like "what is fair," "what is true," "what is an even deal." I think the Eastern way of looking at these things is more mutable, subject to shades of meaning and a lot of that is shaped by population, land and historical conditions. Italy is also kind of exceptional because it's eas to similarly write you off as terrone forgetting you were the cultural capital of Earth from like 50 BC to 1600 AD and then even after that seriously punched above your weight in engineering and invention. Yeah I'm an Italophile lol
>>542775234On the horizontal, average russian still mog the shit out of you or any other westerners lol
>>542764928What caused your submission?
>>542765252Hello Ivan.
>>542774800>Russian fourth-grade graduates regularly take 1st place in the world in reading quality and text comprehension, demonstrating absolute leadership among dozens of countriesAnd then they run away from this shithole because the only life opportunities they'll have here are either die in a trench or code another cybergulag app for below average salary. These tests and olympiads mean jack shit if you can't stop the brain drain. Worst case scenario they'll end up like russian Elon Musk - tortured to death in prison.
>>542779175So if a Russian child fails a math test they get tortured to death in prison?Seek help faggot
>>542779787Nice reading comprehension retard
>>542764928vodka brain + slave mentality.
average russian from moscow is 74% genetically polish
both germanics and balto-slavs have their roots on polish soil
>>542764928Continious survival, superiority, non stop victories and domination over all neighbors during last 1000 years