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>New Chevy trucks will no longer include a dipstick
Why are they doing this? Who asked for this? Who is buying this?

Seems like every year, cars/trucks get new, stupid features that nobody wants and makes reliability worse.
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>>542778462
My honda doesnt have this problem
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>>542778462
There's no incentive to buy new cars as Biden's 2021 federal infrastructure law mandated every new one has a built-in kill switch that will allow the government to remotely deactivate your vehicle
https://autos.yahoo.com/policy-and-environment/articles/does-car-already-kill-switch-161320232.html
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I'm only sticking to used cars.
Something needs to break the US car makers.
Or better yet, we should buy shares in GM and vote in board members
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>>542778462
I thought the government made it so they couldn't do shit like this last year?
How they have to make it so you can work on your cars?
Ever lobbiest needs to be waterboarded to they spill ALL the beans in EVERYONE involved in their disgusting industry.
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1. GM is stupid and always does stupid things (ie, attempting to remove Carplay and Android Auto, discontinuing the hybrid Volt and going balls deep on EVs nobody wants).
2. GM makes every decision based on fleecing customers. Anything they can do to make a product not serviceable by the owner is exactly what they will do.

If you're dumb enough to buy a GM you deserve every problem that comes along with it.
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>>542778594
Any non carb car can get remotely bricked by emp
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>>542778462
i bought a mercedes c250 and started shitposting on pol about glowniggers in the hopes that said glowniggers crash my car into a tree and i can finally stop posting on pol
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>>542778462
Western car manufacturers due to DEI (hiring only Dumbhoes, Ethnojews, Indians) cannot compete with China and others with ingenuity. SO they accept their loss and focus on milking their loyal cuckstomers from all the money they have by any means necessary.
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>>542778462
People who buy Chevy trucks sit down to piss. If you are worth anything you go ford/ram
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>>542778462
I'm still salty they killed their sedan line.
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>>542778462
GM sucks now. Ford is dominating the pickup truck market.
GM V8s lock up from poor machining, they suffer from collapsed lifters from the disaster that was AFM, their transmissions are made of glass. Also they don't even paint their frames, they literally use a wax coating that comes off within 20,000 miles
I used to be GM fan but they have mismanaged that company into the fucking ground. The only trucks worth buying from them are the 3/4 or 1 ton trucks, either diesel of the gas L8T without all the AFM bullshit.
Ford runs the game now.
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>>542779204
GM was the GOAT in the early 2000s, everything went to shit for them after 2008
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>>542778462
The world of Mad Max is here. Take any old piece of shit car or truck you have access to and do everything in your power to get it running and road-worthy.
Fuck this modern shit. Go post-corporate.
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>>542778462
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>542779789
Why wouldn’t you just buy non-American?
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>>542778462
>Why are they doing this?
Power and money.
>Who asked for this?
Investors.
>Who is buying this?
Retards.
>Seems like every year, cars/trucks get new, stupid features that nobody wants and makes reliability worse.
It makes the entire world worse. The golden age of innovation is over, because no one is allowed to innovate anymore.
You're not allowed to tinker with products you buy, because you don't actually own them anymore, and that's why we're losing engineering talents to fucking India.
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>>542779910
Non Americans can’t make any decent trucks.
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>>542778462
Single use car.
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>>542779720
me too. Even the rare high-end sedan today look like shit.
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Modern engines and synthetic oils dont need to be checked up every month anyways and the car has a sensor for leaks and scheduled oil changes from the start. Its really just a clickbait.
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>>542779910
Because you can't, chicken tax and bullshit
Otherwise I would be gunning for a Toyota Hilux
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>>542778462
All you need is a GMT800
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>>542779842
GM has never been the GOAT unless you're talking 50+ years ago. Even their good vehicles are over-designed trash. The only 20+ year old GM cars on the road today are Pontiacs and Saturns i e. discontinued not-GM designs. F-150 and Ranger have eaten GM trucks alive our whole lives in power and durability. Possibly the only shittier brand is Dodge.

Every one of their flagship names could be bought out by China tomorrow and improved. They're a sinking ship of retards.

t. GM contractor in Flint fucking Michigan
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>>542779910
>Why wouldn’t you just buy non-American?
Non-American trucks (that are available in America) are garbage cans on wheels. The new Tundra is built in Texas and is a rolling pile of shit.
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>>542780159
Replacing something simple and effective (dipstick) with something complicated, expensive, and unreliable (a series of sensors that tell you if there’s fucking oil in your car).
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>>542780189
>Toyota Hilux
number one choice for angry thirdies and terrorists since 1968
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>>542778462
Modern vehicles are designed to suck up boomer cash on maintenance. Boomoids don't have any consumer standards, so they keep buying this shit. They're the only demographic buying $50,000 vehicles, so the industry caters to them and adds more grifting into the deal.
Retarded consumers with FOMO = retarded products designed to break
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>>542780571
Wow that's the perfect camouflage for the environment. Well done, niggers. Great job.
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>>542779231
not 100,000 cars at the same time from 2000 miles away retard
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In truth, I rather stick with the rice-burners I have gotten over the decades. (20+ years). Mitsubishi, Toyota, Nissan.

Fuck Americuck brand vehicles. Gaijin scum drives those.
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>>542778462
Buy a pre-covid vehicle and enjoy lower (or no) monthly payments, easier maintenance, and greater reliability, plus a healthy dose of nostalgia depending on how far back you go.
Honestly, fuck modern cars. If youre the type that thinks older cars dont look as good, buy something industrious and timeless like an older 4Runner, Lexus GX, Silverado, Honda Pilot, CRV, etc. If you need MPG, previous generation Camrys and Accords still look great
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>>542779910
I drive a ford pickup because ford is the most antisemetic car brand
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>>542780869
>Buy a pre-covid vehicle
Buy pre-9/11 vehicles.
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>>542778462
protectionism.
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>>542780409

Only retard boomers get scared of sensors.
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>>542778462
RtR always rapes these people in the end, auto manufacturers had taken a backseat because many had non-compliance with electric mandates from Obama's era and globohomo wants them to fail. If enough manufacturers simply say "we're not following your mandates or EPA regulations", then there's nothing government can do.
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>>542778462
you still have oil lever sensor
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>>542778462
Unironically go and subscribe to this guy!

>What the Fuck Is Happening to the US Car Market?
All bets on YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY!
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>>542780140
my friend just got a brand new bmw and it looks identical to the latest kia sedans
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>>542780921
I am pretty sure jews hold most of the stock since the Dodge brothers issue.
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>>542781092
>Look goyim you will still have an electronic oil sensor that absolutely won't break 2 weeks out of warranty and takes 10 hrs of labour to replace
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>>542778462
American car companies, not even once
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>>542780989
Definitely lots of great 90s cars.
Wouldn't mind a first gen CRV. Had a 23 year old first gen pilot with working AC and 257k miles, despite being beat to shit by previous owner.
Mainly just say pre covid because there's a clear distinction in poor quality and increased surveillance tech and to appease people who still want something newer.
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>>542779231
As long as it’s a magneto or points ignition. A lot of boomers and wrenchlets use electronic ignition modules these days.
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>>542778594
>biden derangement syndrome
didn't expect that in a chevy thread lmao
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>>542781048
>t. has faulty oxygen sensor
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>>542781232
It is not just them
All the new MB have that horrid dash with the ebay tablet looking info screen
The G Wagon is their only good vehicle
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>>542778594
>There's no incentive to buy new cars as Biden's 2021 federal infrastructure law mandated every new one has a built-in kill switch that will allow the government to remotely deactivate your vehicle
>https://autos.yahoo.com/policy-and-environment/articles/does-car-already-kill-switch-161320232.html
Thanks.

Clown maxing are we?
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Forgive my ignorance, but if the truck has an electronic sensor, whats the point of a dip stick?
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>digital only is the future chud
>everyone loves it 90% of sales are digital oil checks

>fuck you you can’t stop us
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>>542778462
you all laughed at him for getting an aftermarket short-throw dipstick.
who's laughing now?
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>>542778462
GM engineer here. I designed an electronic sending unit. I put it in the oil pan.

t. not an engineer.
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They have needed to get rid of dipsticks for a long time... the ones in management.
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>>542781414
every digital sensor in every car will eventually fuck up in some way.
it's further making modern cars into disposable consumables, not things that can last for decades.
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>>542781048
Agreed. Every time I whip out my “sensor” to “probe” your mom, she gets scared.
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>>542778462
Remember the whole "you will own nothing and you will be happy" thing? It was spun as communist when it was about this. Rent seeking from companies, the need to maximize profit, eventually leads to this. It takes government intervention to force companies to be better to consumers. The Reaganites, libertarians, and free market liberals have no answer and won't acknowledge the Right to Repair pressure as good.
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>>542779967
Tacoma is the best truck in existence.
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>>542778462

Why cant we have new car companies that are not Israeli Inteligence Operations?

The auto market is just like any other elected official, once in power, they no longer listen to the people and do whatever they are told to do.

Scott Bessent and the economic terrorists are making sure Americans have no money, while auto makers are ensuring Americans have to rights to the vehicle which is ungodly expensive . America has another Cartel which inolved the US government as the center for fraud, Big Auto.

They dont lobby to make things cheaper, they lobby to make the American consumer lose money and power.

We cant have new car companies because Big Auto and the DoJ will just collude and fine them until they no longer exist.

Foreign cars? All those tarriffs and import fees that make the top wealthy, restrict the market so you can only by expense Israeli government approved autos.

All of these RICO groups are goign to be nationalized, just like AI.

It doesnt matter if the defecit is $4 Google Dollars, because no one in the US government is an American citizen, just Israeli-Energy Cartels that will drain the people, bankrupt and destroy any compay that isnt purchased by them, then a new currency will be issued, by then we will have all American flags gone,and we will be one massive United States of the Political State of Israel,

All use command, military, and legal structure comes from the the Political state of Israel and its shareholders.

There are no Americans left in the federal government or in the Israeli-US-Energy Cartel Military.

The soldiers and sailors all have invalidated contracts and now victims of piracy.

All hail the Israeli MIlitary (formerly the US military)! She sits like a queen on many waters, and declares that she will see no sorrow.
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>>542778690
Good luck with that. Replacement parts are in the shitter. Private equity is buying up the junkyards destroying those parts. The major distributor for Oreillys and auto zone etc was doing shady shit selling fake invoices then went bankrupt so supply is in the shitter. Those making aftermarket parts are going to quit since everyone is broke and costs are too high. The entire industry is clapped out.
I fixed up my old yota, diesel ram, and Honda last year and got them parked in an climate controlled shop, thankfully.
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>>542781806
Absolutely not. It is reserved for larping middle class.
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>>542780303
my 20+ year old silverado (with dipstick and no engine or cylinder shutoff bullshit) disagrees. Ford has more over engineered shit. Although kudos for the abomination that is the jointly designed GM-Ford 10 speed automatic.
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>>542778462
you WILL pay $60,000 for a new vehicle and you WILL only go to a dealership to get it fixed
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>>542781911
Theyre good vehicles in general but a truck needs to be able to tow which they can't.
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>>542780571
looks like ASAT camo but they went too dark
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>>542780571
F250s are a viable option though
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>>542780627
>They're the only demographic buying $50,000 vehicles
$50k is actually the average cost of a new vehicle nowadays. Try $70k to $80k.

You’re right tho. We’re in a boomer extraction economy. Who the fuck else is spending $80k on a new Ram 1500 Limited or F-150 King Ranch. Damn near 6 figures for a gasser 3/4 ton. Drive it to golf once a week and Wal-Mart once a month for their roadside pick-up order.
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>>542778462
Good luck stopping me from drilling a hole and hammering a tube into it, jews.
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>>542778462
Nobody has to buy it. Auto manufacturers were shown in 2008 that they don’t need to sell cars because taxpayer dollars will bail them out anyway
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>>542782099
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>>542782099
I just got a 2008 2500 HD diesel for 10k. Lol. Its got a bad seat and some rust but its just a towpig beater. A/C works so thats nice I guess.
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>>542779789
>Also they don't even paint their frames, they literally use a wax coating that comes off within 20,000 miles
Tips on stopping/preventing rust? I drive a 2020 6.2 V8 Denali 1500 that I bought off some boomer for chump change. Less than 40k miles. I already disabled the AFM. My main concern is making the frame last as long as possible.
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>>542778524
Can a honda ridgeline pull a horse trailer? Id buy it if could
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>>542782263
>6.2
Your engine will explode long before rust becomes a concern
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>>542781453
>GM engineer
>not an engineer.
Checks out.
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>>542782263
The best you can do is keep it dry. They rust from the inside out so unless you're going to strip it and dip it you can't really do much. I suggest drilling holes in the bedside wheel wells to weep the water out. Prime and paint the holes. Also the rocket panels. They trap water and rust inside out.
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>>542782263
Fluidfilm
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>>542779881
>The world of Mad Max is here. Take any old piece of shit car or truck you have access to and do everything in your power to get it running and road-worthy.
>Fuck this modern shit. Go post-corporate.
if you don't mind driving a smaller diesel there are lots of them that can now be imported from europe because they were manufactured long enough ago. Solid pre-emissions scandal VW diesels etc with manual trannies and crank windows and no electronic tatlletale bullshit. Europe has banned them from city centers because they don't meet the ultra-gay latest emissions standards and there are tons of them for sale for under $10 or even $5k. Yes you have to deal with shipping etc and I have not but I am thinking about it. Those small diesel engines are easy to work on and will run 500k miles with maintenance.
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>>542780627

Doesnt make sense when you think about it. Boomers grew up with the highest quality autos. Stuff they had in the 50s could still be running today. And yet they cant wait to buy the newest plastic computer car. They're so retarded.
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>>542781173
All cars basically look the same now just different head/tail lights and grille.
Because the pedestrian safety and drag coefficient are so tight, the most min maxed shape has already been found.
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>>542782099
Boomers are truly the worst generation to have ever graced this planet. Holy fuck, imagine if they only put 10% of their ill-gotten gains into a stock account for their children to have SOMETHING to kickstart their own lives. But no. Every generation has to be reset to 0! I WORKED for my riches! Bootstrap yourself!
Meanwhile kikes and jeets
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>>542782517
See? See? An American finally starts appreciating the old Euro vehicles!
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You think it's bad for cars? You should try buying any real replacement parts for your home HVAC. Manufacturers and suppliers have locked that shit down so you have to go through a contractor. Thank God for Grainger and eBay. At least with cars you buy damn near everything through Rock Auto.
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>>542778462
Mercedes took out the dipstick and the fucking drain plug years ago. Now you have to trust the (fail-safe) oil level sensor and suck the oil out of the sump with a hose. Little bits of friction to make you less inclined to do your own oil change, but it doesn't actually stop you.
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>>542782621
boomers are all huge narcs, they want you to be successful so they can brag about you to their other boomer friends, but you are never allowed to do better than them.
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>>542782470
Nah, the rusting happens from the inside out. The key is have a place for it to go and not trap it. You can look at every new truck thats rusting and you will see there is nowhere for the water to go. Drill some holes at the low-points, valleys, etc. The bedsides and rocker panels are the big trouble spots.
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>>542781806
Not even the best truck in it's class. Frontier and Ranger are just as good in every "Toyota" way but far better on maintenance, mileage and purchase price.
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>>542778462
You will own nothing and be happy
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>>542782872
Well you spray the fluidfilm in there too. Not perfect by any means but combined with your suggestions, one can keep their car in very good condition for years past the expected scrapping date.
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>>542782263
Also, look behind the front wheels at that shroud. You will notice it's not sealed properly and water just shoots in there when you're driving. You need to seal that up and have a place for the water that gets in there to go. That will eat your rocker panels so fast.
T. Knower of things.
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>>542781048
Only faggot jews think over unnecessarily complicated machines are a good thing
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>>542781977
You've replaced/massively overhauled some section of the power train. Don't lie to me, I'll know!
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>>542782263
Depending on what state you live in, there are auto shops that offer frame treatments.
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>>542782307
why the fuck would canadian hick larpers need horses for?
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>>542782329
>Your engine will explode long before rust becomes a concern
The powertrain is on extended warranty for the next 80k miles. I’m actually betting on it grenading before the warranty expires, and getting a whole new engine dropped in for free that will hopefully go another 80k miles.

But it’s also possible that the engine grenades right after the warranty expires, but that’s the gamble I’m taking. Truck was cheap anyways.
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>>542781863
I just fully tuned up and repaired my 2005 civic, should be good for another 7 years but I'm worried about the timing belt not having a replacement in the future
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>>542779789
Dodge is dominating the cocksucker market
Ford is still jew owned and operated just like dodge
My Tacoma is sixteen years old and fucking awesome
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>>542782992
Goyota sucks and always will
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>>542778594
nobody cares about that shit
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This world is hell, i guarantee they will start charging a subscription fee to get your oil checked kek
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>>542783568
The solution is violence

But we're all to gay retarded and sissy
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>>542783371
If you're within like 10% of needing it replaced just buy the fucker. Theyre a couple hundred bucks right? You can do it yourself. Just mark the original position with a grease pen and get a timing gun. You can advance and retard (lol) the timing manually on those right?
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>>542782770
I appreciate the new ones too, you can still buy a simple vehicle there unlike here because oh no no no how else would the coin clippers make all their money on the $50k plus vehicle loan?
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>>542783710
> new ones
They don't even come close to the old ones.
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>>542783424
The frame rusted out. You think the big 3 trucks don't have that problem? They stopped treating the insides of the frames. Their just as bad. Meanwhile toyota learned their lesson after recalling all of these. Tacos are good vehicles. Any truck below a 1ton isn't a truck anyway.
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>>542779204
Yeah, I used to be solidly GM. Not anymore. Especially that kill switch bill and the push to make vehicles non-repairable. It's now impossible to be pro American business. They do not feel the same way about us. Patriotism is a two way street. Respect me, or learn to deal with my contempt.
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>>542778462
>You need to submit a court order as a victim of domestic violence in order to opt out of tracking and advertisement profiles for your new vehicle.
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>>542779310
Their "loyal customer base" is dwindling by the day due to shit like this. The CEO of GM is a feminist. And all feminists hate men. I'm not playing this game anymore. If people hate me, they can expect to be hated in return.
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>>542778462
People unironically buy chevys? lmao
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It's missing the mandatory "extra large" anal probe internal body monitoring system connected to the flock and cellular services /wifi and short range meshed bluetooth networks necessary to operate the vehicle, also mandatory for all occupants including babies and children.
How can they drop the ball this badly nafo fellas?
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>>542779789
Ford was the only company to not take the bailout. It's starting to show.
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>>542783818
I sold my 2018 Sierra 1500 because the tail light went out and they wanted $1000.
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>>542783923
I wouldn’t point to that excessively l. The only reason they didn’t bailout is cause they took out MASSIVE loans like the month before it happened. They correctly saw what was gonna happen and acted on it unlike the others.
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>>542783801
The only ones who rust as close are Chevies and you know this.
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>>542783568
the end goal is you don't own a vehicle. they'll never outright prohibit it, just make it so expensive especially via (((insurance))) and inability to repair that most people won't be able to. They want everyone except the ultra wealthy taking robotaxis on demand. Just wait until their (((studies))) come out showing AI driven vehicles have far less accidents etc.
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>>542784068
I know that I own or have owned every make of every truck sold in the u.s from 2026 to 1990 because I make shit for them. I know that the new ones will all be rust buckets in 5 years.
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Operation of all transport for humans of any age including bicycles, tricycles and motorbikes, motorboats etc will all need the necessary anal probes for compliance. Failure to comply will result in imprisonment or on site execution, moving to straight mandatory execution on site after the one month grace period for the new transportation transformation regulations go into effect. This is literally "him". I can tell. He's such a fucker. He'll do it too! Lol fuck.
Am a bit "wise" but I repeat myself?
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>>542784383
Guess you have a skill issue
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USA is just engaging in late stage capitalism. In 5 years this sensor will be subscription gated.
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>>542779231
What stops me pushing my car down a hill and/or jump starting it with a battery that isn't dead from an emp?
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>>542784524
Thats the exterior, anon. Do you know why the yota frames rusted?
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They're just swapping to a sensor that alerts you when the level is low. I think it's pretty gay too but German brands have been doing it for like 20 years now so it's not like GM is breaking new ground.
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All the "people" involved in "most everything" have sex with children btw if you didn't know that by now. If not, now you do and you're welcome! Grand isn't it. Very "fancy" yes, that's what's very important, is those "fancy" things. That's what you're all dealing with.
proved everything x times over + myself. Anyone doubts me, that's on them. Strap in/strap on and buckle up chucklefucks.
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>>542784712
Piss poor metal and zero coating.
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>>542779231
If an EMP happens, you'll more things to worried about. Clocking in on time for shekelstein isn't one of them.
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>>542780627
>Boomoids don't have any consumer standards
My mom takes her car into a certified dealer every three months for maintenance.
For the past five years I've been asking if the shop has looked at the oil leak. She says there's no oil leak.
I say I can smell it every time I walk through the garage shortly after she's gotten back from any drive longer than 10 miles. There's clearly the smell of oil getting on something hot.
She says the shop would have caught it if there was an oil leak.
I sort of want to beat the shit out of the mechanics fleecing my mom, but on the other hand, if she's going to do stupid boomer shit...

picunrel, just sensibly chuckleable
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>>542784718
Pretty sure my sentiments caught up to you somewhere/sometime in your life. Which IS a good thing. Glad you and yours agree.
and to answer the question you are
thinking right now.
>>Yes, I am. Very.
Whoopsie
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>>542784718
Neat, so when the sensor fails you have to pay for a new one because the check engine light comes on and puts it in limpmode. Lol. I havent checked my oil in 20 years. Whats the point if you change your oil, don't have leaks, and aren't burning oil? I dont want to pay for a sensor on my toilet paper roll dispenser either. I just change it when it needs changed. Imagine not being able to take a shit because your toilet paper dispenser sensor can't read that there is toilet paper in it? Its wholly unnecessary.
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>>542778690
Just wait for another cash for clunkers scam to destroy what little is left of the used car market.
That really fucked zoomers more than anyone realized and it was intentional by king nigger to force us all to buy new shittier faggot "green" cars. It was a lot like when they destroyed the trolleys to push people into buying cars.
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>>542784356
I got mine! So /don't care!
/Seizures.
"Do you see..."
People are like that.
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>>542783878
Since money is the only thing they care about and worship deny them your money to make them piss and shit themselves. Encourage everyone else to do the same. Cheapskate lemon salesmen don't deserve respect or a job.
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Truck buyers are reliable conservative voters
Don't forget to refill your bus pass, plebs!
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>>542784963
>every three months for maintenance.
What?
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>>542785105
If it fails powerplant goes boom. "You think an electronic doodad like that can send a failure?" No I won't"elaborate" rn. Just stick to smelling your finger or someone else's kiddo's.
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>>542784782
>shit metal and zero coating
Incorrect. It was dirty frames before treatment and boxed designs that didn't allow water to exit the cavity of the box frame.
The same exact issue persists with american cars.
I wasnt speaking about frames exclusively when I said they would become rust buckets in 5 years, btw.
Before you get all butthurt and start arguing in bad faith im not talking shit on you or making fun of your favorite truck or trying to offend.
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>>542784524
I see some peeling paint there. Only a matter of time before the rust sets in if it hasn't already.
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>>542781806
3rd gen is hot garbage. 2013–2015 is the sweet spot.
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>>542785391
So that truck in my pic is a rust bucket? The one with zero rust at 8 years? Stop being stupid.
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>>542782307
Just get an older GM, the generation before the 2014 was durable. Alternatively you could get a 3rd gen cummins dodge with the manny tranny.
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>>542778462
Don't you know? Ownership is communism! True Americans only own licences to the products they use.
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>>542778462
? You have sensors for oil level.
I bet you niggerfaggots complained about the introduction of analog gas gauges too lmfao.
>NOOO I must be able to check fuel level manually by eye!
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>>542785335
You're an idiot. Maybe people shouldn't be allowed to own vehicles if they can't tell when their car is leaking or burning oil. Maybe auto manufacturers shouldn't be allowed to make vehicles if they blow up because it leaks or burns all the oil in the 6000 miles between oil changes which also makes it obvious if there is problem.
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>>542785472
That’s just the shit ass cheap steel bed on it. The rest of the truck and frame is fine.
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Like it matters. Give me a fucking break, or nice untaintedpuss. Honestly.
Where's the dipstick?
Lololol. 67'd again huh uh.
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>>542785151
Of the long list of crimes of the boomer, cash for clunkers is up there.
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>>542785495
>zero rust on the outside
Yea, im not talking about surface rust on the exterior of your 8 year old truck. They rust from the INSIDE OUTWARD.
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>>542785105
>german brands removed the dipstick
that's genuinely odd coming from a people who are known for manually inspecting their poops
>>542785335
>If it fails powerplant goes boom
there's been an oil pressure gauge / sensor since the invention of the ICE. there's already a way to know.
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>>542785681
Uh huh yeah it’s a complete rust bucket. All that rust is really really bad. It has already broken is half twice since last year.
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>>542785596
You're quite mistaken about what you surmise m'lady, because I'm me and you're you and what ever you say gets shoved up your ass X infinity, true.
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>>542778462
Heh... Goyim cattle will keep on consuming
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>>542785825
Ok, if you can't understand what I'm talking about then there really is no reason to continue discussing this with you. You're, right. It's shroedingers rust. If you personally can't see it rigjht now inside the box frame then it doesn't exist.
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>>542778462
Same reason lawnmowers dosnt need an oil change.
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>>542785105
>because the check engine light comes on and puts it in limpmode
No, unless GM implements this in the dumbest and most backward way possible, you will simply get a notification on your dash that the sensor malfunctioned. It's $40 to replace it on an Audi and sits next to the drain plug, but I'm sure GM will find a way to stick it in a terrible location.
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>>542783450
Sure, because most people are retarded consumers. Still, a missed customer is a missed customer. I won't buy any car that connects to the internet. That simple.
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>>542785737
You're not too keen now. Not a question.
But aI did at least give you "the gears"
Shit's dinked guys. That is all. Completely forever now. Hope you like it. All am sayanim
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>>542780644
I can barely see that there's a truck at all.
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>>542785982
Glad we could come to an agreement on the matter. As we can see it’s a real rust bucket. Will never make it any longer and should be scrapped.
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>>542780140
Buy a Lexus and shut up nigger
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The 4.2L straight 6 was a great engine, except you'll snap every bolt getting the head off. :/
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>>542784718
>but German brands have been doing it for like 20 years now
Finally somebody who isn't a wrenchlet. I worked at an M3 specialist from 2013-17 and a bunch of the cars we dealt with had this bullshit. There's even worse stuff too like the fact that you can't properly bleed brakes on E46s and newer without an outrageously expensive service computer, our Autologic was the cheap option at the time and it was still like $20k plus a multi-thousand dollar annual subscription.

I've heard some euro brands also have no oil drain and you have to use a vacuum thing to suck the oil out from the top but I've never dealt with one and not sure which cars have it, sounds like VAG shit though.
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>>542786071
I must have misunderstood your schizobabble, apologies
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>>542786196
>anon complains about ugly cars
>other anon recommends THIS
That's before you even get into the fact that most new Toyota/Lexus vehicles are unreliable dogshit because Toyota can't into DI turbo or apparently transmissions.
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>>542778462
>Why are they doing this?
So you have to pay $500 for $30 of oil
>Who asked for this?
Some H1B jeet
>Who is buying this?
The same people who call AAA for a flat tire. I'm going to still drive my old car until the frame rusts out. After that? I'll probably gut some new truck and put an old-school small block in it.
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>>542786287
You can't bleed brakes on e46? What?
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>>542782263
What a fat blob.
>6.2
You're cooked
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>>542778462
Good. No one fucking checks their oil any more except boomers and retards that drive retardmobiles that actually start burning oil right off the assembly line. The sensor probably works better than your dipstick anyway.
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>>542786246
I have 2, tb42 and td42 in Nissan safaris.
I never plan on needing to pull the heads. Society as we know it will be long gone by the time that's required.
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>>542786176
What region of the u.s do you live? Rust is obviously not a problem for anything in certain parts of the u.s. I live in the rust belt so I presumed you did as well since we are talking about rust.
Dont tell me you are being a disingenuous homosexual that lives in a desert.
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>>542781414
What's the point of an cheapo electronic sensor that will break when you can just have a fucking dipstick, you fucking dipstick?
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>>542786527
>The sensor probably works better than your dipstick anyway.
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>>542779204
This. I have to put a $6,000 transmission in my 2017 Acadia Denali at 144,000 miles. I have to replace the catalytic converter.

American cars and trucks are literally goymobiles and of such poor quality they deserve to go out of business
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>>542779645

Every woman in your famjly is pumped full of gorilla nigger jizz
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>>542779881
What if in the Mad Max universe it’s only Australia that’s living like that and everyone else is totally normal, but nobody in the world says anything about it because it’s Australia?
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>>542778462
>in loud we trust
the well earned humiliation is just beginning for truck owners
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>>542782307
That's why you need to keep your old cummins or powerstroke alive for as long as possibly
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>>542786592
because the electronic sensor works every time you get in the car and will automatically alert you when levels drop. You can probably read it continuously with a cheap bluetooth obd reader if you really want. There is literally no reason to have a dipstick when you can just read the fucking sensor. Retards vastly overestimate how often these sensors go bad. No your 15 year old rust bucket that once had a random sensor go bad is not a good reason to hate sensors.
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>>542784638
Its ALL of the electronic parts like the starter and circuitry that will be fried, curry-nigger. Battery wont matter.
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>>542786783
yes, good goy, look at the ipad screen
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It is just more jewy amerifat anti-consumer policies where they want the customer to be dependent on a "service structure" that ensures money coming in. All under the guise of "protecting jobs and the car industry".
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>>542786783
... and it means dipstick is bad... how?
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>>542786571
WV and these fuckers salt the ever loving hell out of the roads for 5 months. Also travel north all the time and trucks get covered in the shit.
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>>542785105
>Imagine not being able to take a shit because your toilet paper dispenser sensor can't read that there is toilet paper in it? Its wholly unnecessary.
Yes, but think of the jobs the mandating of such a system creates. Think of the forced flow of money, just so you can wipe your ass. Think of the way that technically increases GDP!!!

Do understand now, just how fake and gay the modern world is?
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>>542785585
>I bet you niggerfaggots complained about the introduction of analog gas gauges too
I would trust a mechanical analog gas gauge before I trust a digital sensor. I've had to chase enough malfunctioning sensors to know this is a bad idea and the OBD rarely tells you what you need to know to fix this shit. This just adds more points of failure to an already needlessly complex system and oil is pretty fucking fundamental to a properly running engine. If you run out of gas, no biggie. If you run out of oil, your new truck is fucked.
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>>542786783
From the company that brought you plastic impellers for an fuel pump that inside the fuel tank and unservicable light balasts that cost $1000 instead of 60 to change the bulb brings you....no lipstick and a fucking oil level sensor that doesn't fucking do anything you couldn't tell in 5 seconds after walking out to your car and noticing a puddle of oil.
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>>542781048
OMG really sucks that your oil level sensor went out completely and you had no idea there was no oil in the motor causing the motor to self-destruct. That'll be 15k plus tip goy!
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Wut about muh lawnmower and muh tacos and muh burritos tho?
But I did eat breakfast.
Hot pussycat on a cold tin roof and soft as shit on a hot summer night.
That's less crazy than "this"
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>>542786678
>I have to replace the catalytic converter.
144k isn't bad for a cat, problem is, most of these new cars have 4 separate catalytic converters in an exhaust system so one of them is probably going to fail sooner than it should.
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>>542786443
Doing it properly requires running a routine that pulses the ABS pumps to push fluid through the system. The old school way is probably fine for routine maintenance on a daily driver but if you need to do a full flush after somebody's seriously overheated the brakes, or if you're installing aftermarket lines and calipers, you really need to do it the proper way to get optimal performance and since we were a performance shop that did a lot of track/race car work we did a lot of the latter.

I'd bet a lot of shops don't even know about this and will happily throw on your BBK or whatever without doing the real bleed routine (they probably don't have the hardware to do it anyway) but that's why my shop was one of the most highly regarded track car shops in the country and an official R&D partner and service center for several major aftermarket brands like StopTech (RIP), Brembo/AP, Motion Control Suspension, etc.
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>>542786527
Thanks for letting us know you are a Subaru lesbian, no one asked though.
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>>542782307
You gonna fuck that horse?
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>>542787237
Thank god I've never bought any premium brand german car.
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>>542778462
>Why are they doing this?
It's just the invisible hand of the market, fist-fucking you to squeeze more profit for the rich.
Don't you just love capitalism?
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>>542786854
All that shit can be replaced, thing is, most of the niggers want to replace the human behind the wheel rather than nuke all the useful shit that they're sitting behind, you burgerbrained fuckwit. what good is nuking someone if you inherit a crater full of shit.
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>>542787111
wouldn't a faulty sensor just result in a permanent light on the dashboard though (had this issue with the CEL when one of my oxygen sensors died but the car was just fine)
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>>542787111
>go out to car
>it doesn't start
>obd2 code says oil level sensor bad
>its fine
>some shitty butt splice some spic in mexico did failed
>spend $2k diagnosing an bad ground
Yea, more wires means headach. I used to have a 1976 cutlass caprice panel wagon id have to spray ether in everytime it got cold and id rather deal with fucker again than a modern car. When I went to the mountains to snowboard id have to advance the timing. Lol. Still better than this stupid shit
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>>542786783
The problem is system complexity. Any systems engineer will tell you a more complex system is more prone to failure. The problem isn't so much a few digital sensors, the problem is an entire system of digital sensors controlling critical engine components all working together being controlled by engine control software outsourced to India. So, one random sensor goes bad and now your truck is electronically bricked, at best. Warped heads and cracked block at worst. The great thing about dipsticks is they don't fail.
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>>542787211
I yanked the cats out of one of my cars, sold them, and got my car registered in a state that doesn't do emissions. Simple as.
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>>542787444
If they have issues don’t they just assume the worst and move on? What you are describing can he open to any component. An injector can fail and wash out a cylinder requiring a tear down. Etc.
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>>542787444
I promise the digital sensor (which is going to be there anyway these days) is less of an engineering feat than designing a fucking dipstick tube that routes through everything and doesn't randomly break. They aren't trying to save money on the cost of a dipstick, they're trying to save the engineering man hours on something only a tiny percent of their target market even uses. Only people I know that ever even check their dipsticks are the same people who have an OBD reader to check the sensor output live.
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>>542780644
>perfect camouflage
Do I see Quake logos on that truck?
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>>542780921
henry ford got put back in its place and became a good goy afterwards. plus the most antisemitic brand is porsche, followed by vw. then ford (both ford america, and ford germany)
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>>542778462
Jiang talked about this.

1. The problem of autonomous vehicles can never be solved because of irrational decisions made by human drivers
2. Therefore the only solution is to get rid of human drivers

All these steps are being implemented to slowly strip away human agency from driving.

1) Cameras recording driver's face 24/7 to ensure they are attentive
2) Remote killswitch capabilities
3) Hostile engine design and planned obsolescence to prevent personal maintenance or tweaking
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>>542783321
segs
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>>542787629
To me it’s also one less fucking thing to leak. Fucking Cummins
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>>542787326
Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if the same was true on modern Japanese cars etc. I've heard some pretty horrible things about working on Lexus in particular, and even Honda has some awful stuff like the infamous brake rotor bolts. I've only ever wrenched professionally on BMW and a bit of water-cooled Porsche (which btw were nowhere near as bad as the reputation made me expect) though so I wouldn't know.
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>>542778462
How does this benefit Israel?
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>>542787777
Maybe not, the sensor probably involves holes in the oilpan too.
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>>542782063
now that's advertisement
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>>542778462
it's happening with everything, not just cars.

It's happening with farm equipment too, where farmers can longer repair their own tractors, they must be serviced by the provider.

This is part of the larger trend of turning the economy into an owner-less, service-based, rentier system where you will own nothing and allegedly, be happy.
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>>542787783
Well honestly the last German car that wasn't overengineered pos designed to fleece you as much as possible was Passat B3. After that every one of them is a money sink, but at least you got that muh germoon enjinirung thing, so you were okay. Now they're all just shit.
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>>542787444
of all the sensors in a modern ICE car that could break, what does the dipstick sensor matter?

the only situation where people check the oil level is before changing the oil, and at that point one could just as well measure the volume. think, guys, think.
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>>542787871
The sensor isn't designed to be removed all the time causing wear. Way easier to design a sensor that doesn't leak than a dipstick.
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>>542778462
Enshitification, non-self-servicability to be specific.

>>542778524
Yet. Even Goyota has gone to complete shit. You can't replace the headlight bulbs, they're a sealed system. You have to buy a whole new unit for $2,200 (for the Corolla, their lowest model) and replace the entire headlight unit which is purposely made a pain in the ass with little plastic clips thay break on purpose.
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>>542784356
They want everyone to have nothing to lose? Is that right
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>>542778462
>Allow corporations to manipulate regulators however they want
>Surprised that they'll do anything for profit
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>>542787968
what exactly makes it non-serviceable? You'll be able to check the level on the dash or with a $5 scanner. You are just revealing you don't know anything about cars here.
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>>542787629
I promise, you don't know what you're talking about. Its to sell sensors and force people into the dealership. Its profit maximizing and nothing more.
Ask yourself this, if no one uses dipsticks why do they need a sensor for something they already don't care about?
T. Mechanical engineer in aerospace and manufacture fiber composite car parts on the side.
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>>542778462
They've been it making it harder and harder to fix your own car, decade after decade. The engineering has been advancing, becoming more complex, more computerized and requiring more specialized tools. I don't think there is a sinister plot behind this. Not from the engineers at Chevy, at least. It's probably more a marketing thing. Like more homosexuals and women are buying trucks now and don't want to their soft hands all icky. If you derive your masculine identity from tinkering on your big ol truck, you just have to understand that that you're not the "modern audience", to borrow a phrase from vidya. Just buy an old truck, idk.
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>>542788065
>T. Mechanical engineer in aerospace
the real enshittification right here
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>>542787946
Becaues it opens up ways of fleecing you. For example you've used some cheap oil instead of certified GoyOil™ and now your oil sensor says your oil level is low and won't let you start up the engine.
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>>542788065
with the sensor, people don't have to care about it. The dash will let them know they have a problem when it occurs. If you care about checking the oil level every day like an old boomer, you can get a $5 OBD reader off the internet and check it whenever the fuck you want.
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>>542778462
>omg jewland is getting jewed how could this be?????????
mutts in charge of insight
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>The “vehicle health” feature is available to our Chevy+ subscribers
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>>542778462
Its probably because corporations are now using AI programs to optimize their products and to get tips on how to cut back on expenses without causing consumers to get disgruntled about it.
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>>542778462
My bmw does not allow for oil checking either. And I do not like the feature. It takes over ten minutes to get an oil level measurement on the digital system. And you can't see the condition of the oil.
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>>542788162
>you can get a $5 OBD reader off the internet
Don't worry, we'll get rid of those too. You wouldn't want some unauthorised access to your engine, right? Only Authorised Technicians should be allowed to check your engine data, so we'll change all ports to proprietary jacks unique to each model...
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>>542787968
>You can't replace the headlight bulbs, they're a sealed system. You have to buy a whole new unit for $2,200 (for the Corolla, their lowest model) and replace the entire headlight unit
We've regressed back to sealed beam headlights?
What the fuck?
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>>542788162
Why would you replace a failure proof mechanical solution with a retardo electronic sensor that adds a failure point to the vehicle? Even if it works, it will eventually fail and throw error codes just those retarded ass o2 sensors.
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>>542788341
OBDII ports are required by law for emissions testing and are how the "pros" check all this shit themselves. They are not going to get rid of it. You are just a retard who knows nothing about cars.
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>>542788341
>+200 posts
>no one but he has brought up Right to Repair
Why is that? This should be the one issue everyone is on board with.

https://youtu.be/jaOS6bGta7M?is=2ySJVtNDYvmQq81i
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In my fantasies I'd love to start a company that makes very basic and tough work vehicles like Toyota Hiace and Hilux. Something that's cheap and easy to repair.
But maybe it's impossible these days with all the EU and environmental and safety standards.
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>>542778462
the factory oil level sensor in my 200k mile bmw was completely fine
focus on the actually important stuff like communist emission and safety regulations
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>>542788440
> checking emissions levels via reading sensor data from the vehicle itself
lolwut
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>>542782307
A smaller one with one horse, probably. Otherwise no
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>>542779881
Bring back car culture. Bring back car culture aesthetics. Bring back masculinity.
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>>542788156
>>542788341
industrial/agricultural machinery works like this but there's competition between car manufacturers so when they try shit like this it usually fails.

i'm sure some day they will add cryptographic chemical markers to the official windshield wiper soap water but this has nothing to do with having a dipstick or not. it's just to save costs.
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>>542788147
My hatred for enshitification is why I got gud and do what I do. Complaining on the internet like (you) seemed gay.
>>542788162
No. The entire point of the exercise is to sell the product or it wouldn't have been made. There wasnt a overwhelming public demand to remove dipsticks in favor of sensors for things people don't care about. There wasn't a public safety issue.
3 things move product development
Cost
Profit
Demand (whether the rightward shift of the graph or intervention)
They didn't remove an analog feature that never fails in favor of a feature that is sure to fail because of demand or cost. So that leaves only one other metric. It certainly wasn't to make things easier or better for the consumer, objectively, because that would be anomolous. As we all know engineers and altruists aren't heading any of these companies.
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>>542788476
Please look into Right to Repair. Companies are looking for more and more ways to increase profit so they make their products harder for owners to repair without help from the manufacturer. This keeps the products profitable even after purchase and reduces options. If options are reduced, they can jack up prices for services and pitch upgrades and replacements.
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>>542788660
Women aren't your play things, incel.
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>>542788596
Yes, welcome to 1996. Emissions testing hasn't involved dynanometers or probe tests in 2 decades.
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>>542778462
If you change your own oil whos going to charge you 200 bucks to do it for you? Stupid fucking goyim, think of the gdp
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>>542788795
And everyone just took it?
>>542788667
Somehow saving costs involves taking away yet another mean of control over his own property from the hands of the goyim... Hmmmm...
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>>542788698
the introduction of the sensor is to reduce warranty claims. The removal of the dipstick is because virtually none of their target market has any use for it when there is already a sensor there so its just wasted money engineering one.
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>>542787940
I'll simp for the E92 M3 forever. It's an overcomplicated overengineered mess but at least it was done for the right reasons, the last M car that actually felt like a motorsport department black project instead of just a trim level designed by the same bean counters as everything else, and goddamn were they fun and exciting cars with great suspension geo and and that incredible little V8. Our shop car was stroked out to 4.6, dry sump conversion, and had a custom velocity stack setup on the ITBs and holy shit it sounded insane, I wish I had good videos.

>>542787958
Yeah, that's probably true. Doesn't have to be a weird-ass angle either.
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>>542782596
Yeah. Also it's absurd how not only wheelbase and overall length but also vehicle width has increased.
A 2000 civic compared to a a 2016 feels so much wider. Maximum vehicle width regulations would have probably been a very effective way to lower obesity.
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>>542778462
what a great way to get guys to not buy your truck. brilliant advertising
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>>542788947
i would understand if we were talking about firmware or repairability but dipsticks is such a weird hill to die on.
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>>542783921
You forgot the cranial chip and ocular implant hud to warn them of bad badthinking against their a.i. overlords design.
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>>542788947
Well if you don't do the emissions test then you get fined by the police so yeah most people either do it or they find a shady shop to fake it. Point is OBDII aint going anywhere and makes diagnosing car problems way easier most of the time.
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I never thought I'd say this: but American car companies are so retarded that I don't care if we allow cheap Chinese cars to be sold here anymore.

I don't understand why GMC and Ford are so incompetent. They can't even make cars!
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>>542787654
Just get rid of humans. How 'bout that. They'll do it themselves with fervour.
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>>542778462

for dipshit zoomers that pay to have their cars fixed, anon. They're gonna be raking in all those extra shekels by forcing vehicle owners to take their vehicles into approved body shops.
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>>542788555
When a tail light went out in my 2018 gmc Sierra 1500 in 2022 I went to the auto parts store and thought I was just buying a bulb. Nope. It was an unservicable light balast that cost $1000. That is the level of jewish bullshit american auto manufacturers pull. If they want to remove a simple a feature, like a dipstick, to replace it with an electronic sensor you can bet your ass it's going to fail all the time and be a huge bitch to fix. Why? Dealerships have their own lobbying group called the NADA and they are an arm of the big 3 auto manufacturers. They make more in service jobs than they do selling cars.
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Most people don’t check their oil. It’s a waste of material.
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>>542782263
Shops that just coat it all in those marine rustproofing liquids. If you block your truck up you can just do it.
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>>542789067
oh, i get it now. it's meant to ridiculize people who advocate for this, and i'm falling for it and doing the work of the bad guys by taking their side. i stop now.
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>>542789088
I mean, how can you be sure the results are reliable and trustworthy, when you're using the vehicle's own equipment for measuring? It's like asking a suspect whether he's done something illegal or not.
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>>542783928
It's a light bulb. Easy to change and cheap. Quickest way to most cars though is fix the nut behind the wheel. Stop riding the breaks so much.
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>>542788947
You have never heard of obd2 ports? Legally protected and used by every manufacturer to allow access to vehicle electronic systems.
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>>542789191
well if the machine is designed to fake the results you end up like volkswagen
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>>542789247
So, nothing is going to happen to me? Because by the end of the day, only the wagies suffered the lawsuits and shit.
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>>542783328
Opium?
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>>542782099
Not only that, but many also just do leases. So manufacturers are extra incentivized to include dumb shit that many long-term owners don't want. Like 19-20" wheels with no side wall on a fwd sedan/cuv. It looks so fucking retarded too with tiny rotors and small calipers but the early genx and boomers think it looks good apparently.
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>>542785546
Change the ecu, cold air intake, spark plugs and drop body weight. The hypermilers swear you'll double your mpg. Truck is old enough that warrant isn't a issue, so cheaper to hack the truck.
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>>542789198
Well laws can be changed, you know.
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>>542778462
>Why are they doing this?
to force you to spend money on their service vs doing it yourself
>Who asked for this?
the shareholders, the only people in the US who's opinions matter
>Who is buying this?
retarded suburban boomers and Xers that need a big VROOMVROOM to feel like a man since their dicks don't work and they're fat

anyone still buying trucks, or buying any american car in general, is retarded goycattle
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>>542788973
They already engineered the dipstick into the design of the motors so what cost are you talking about? Theyre just plugging the port. Its no different than tire pressure sensors which suck ass and are useless. Its just another thing to arbitrarily increase cost to sell another product.
One day I hope anons get wise enough to realize the elephant in the room has always been making the barrier of entry to engage in the system thier grandparents could is the issue. You're watching the walled garden being built outside of your periphery and clapping not at the sight but the noise that has blinded you by shaking our lenses into dysfunction .
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>>542789100
You ever meet any immigrants Indian etc and their new cars. Lol. Hngh. Them all and their mothers. Yass please. That's how I feel anyway. Good. Mcfuckemall. Super super. They "voted" for it lolol
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>>542779114
Lobbyists should be vivisected on C-SPAN
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>>542789193
Not on that truck. Its a sealed balast.
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>>542787404
>wouldn't a faulty sensor just result in a permanent light on the dashboard
our Focus Group(tm) testing has determined that customers are scared of lights on the dashboard, so our brand new Oil Level Sensor(tm) has no warning light
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>>542789573
Well, honestly it's been like this for a long time, and everyone has been fine with it so far.
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>>542779645
Imagine being a fag like this and thinking it's not all repackaged chinesium. Toyota and Nissan sometimes have more.

American made(of Chinese) parts

Fuckin hillbilly faggot. A gangbanger with a Honda Civic tuner shitbox probably knows more than you.
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>Chevy can't afford to produce dipsticks now
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>>542788660
she can reach for my dipstick
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>>542779881
Chevy Cavaliers, Unite! Fucking things are shit boxes but NEVER stop running just like Ford Rangers. Good design.
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>>542789636
Two lines of wire, a fuse, intermittent relay and an on/off switch $10. Free if you know what you're doing.
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>>542781120
Honestly I love what he's doing but seem to be terrible at doing it. He really never got anything done.
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>>542779114
>>542789616
Texas has a Right to Repair that specifically excludes cars:

https://pirg.org/articles/texas-new-right-to-repair-law-comes-into-force/

Why am I the only one addressing this policy in this thread?
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>>542779645
you're half right, Ford has been shit for over a decade and RAMs are based but have always had transmission issues.

>italy fucked
>germany fucked
>USA fucked
>japan starting to have massive recalls
at the current rate Korea is going to take over the auto industry
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>>542779789
This bruhs

I can’t wait to get my real man truck an F-150 Texas ranch. Get it all dirty from driving through puddles and really only use it for lugging shit from Home Depot or ikea.
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>>542787111

Again, more boomer FUD. The sensor tells you if there isn't enough oil and the car tells you if there's an error in the sensor.

At 150K miles, maybe you have to drop the oil pan and replace a $50 sensor, but that's once or twice in the life of a vehicle and the rest of the time you enjoy the convenience of being able to just instantly check your oil from at any time an infotainment menu instead of having to do it from under the hood.

This board really gives itself as favela spec when the assumed state of basic features is broken or non-functional. "you had no idea there was no oil in the motor" isn't something that ever happens to people who aren't driving shitboxes.

If my car isn't actively leaking oil and I change it every 5-6K miles, when am I ever going to need to check the level? If you drive a shitbox with bad rings that leaves puddles when you park, then yeah maybe you require a dipstick.
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>>542789903
How can a car have transmission issues?
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>>542779645
>thinking there’s a difference and you are all just overcompensating truck fags
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>need to get another man to check your oil
heyooo!
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>>542789942
gearbox failure and it wont come out of first gear (20mph)
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>>542782872
They make hoses with nozzles on them to spray the fluid film in those cavities. The shit works, I’ve been using it for over a decade now.
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>>542778462
karen is stupid especially, as she can't impress other karens without the same three choices
>tahoe
>expedition
>wagoneer
karen used to be interesting when people would ask why she bought a subaru
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>>542782798
My 2017 has the dipstick but also the stupid A button that turns your car off randomly. Using a vacuum is just how oil changes are done in Europe, they rarely have lifts.
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Cyber truck doesn’t have a dipstick and that’s the best truck out right now.
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>>542790022
>gearbox failure
What failure? It's GEARS on a METAL ROD. You don't even shift them, they're always aligned perfectly.
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>>542778462
Doing your own maintenance and repairs is antisemitic.
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I got to fuck up an engine from 1910!!! because I just do ok!!!!!! Fuck you guys! Fucking trannies!
+ sar+racist!+antishmeckleick+BLM+trans rights etc etc post birth adult abortion mandates now
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>>542778462
Did any of you faggots read the article? You can still change your fucking oil it's just digital now like most things in a vehicle.
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>>542789816
Gregg Abbutt is the biggest cuck ever.
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>>542778690
theyre getting so expensive that you might as well just buy new
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>>542779881
My Mazda 3 from 2012 still runs.
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>>542782307
My cybertruck has been hauling this load. cry more as diesel prices skyrocket why you haul shit like a real man.
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>>542789903
>RAMs are based but have always had transmission issues.
Don't they use Austrian ZF gearboxes? I thought those things were supposed to be bullet proof
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>>542779967
Heard good things about the Ridgeline.
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>>542790148
When it starts giving you wrong readings to fuck up your vehicle in the long run or won't let you start the car when the oil is still good.
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>>542785737
>just wait until your oil pressure drops from lack of oil to add more, bro

Are you retarded?
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>>542781806
Overpriced trash. They don't have the V6 anymore, just turbo slop.
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>>542790223
it wont impress any karens when youre a karen, they had their golden age with the prius and outback... but if they cant buy weird chinese cars that will get people to notice karen again and ask what the hell did she buy? she'll just die lonely and irrelevant
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>>542778462
my next vehicle will be a 2012-14 ram 1500. cause my work has them and theyre still going with all the retards that use them.
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>>542790074
Literally stole a dumpster design. Literally! Omfg guis 67/so so cooked. I bet you put your cheese on the uncooked side of the patty too.
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>>542789903
Not anymore since they moved to ZF 8 speeds in 2014ish
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karen used to be the pioneer in cars, she wanted jew hubby to get her the navigator when it came out then begged for the escalade when those niggers started making rap music videos with her fancy ford
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>>542789931
Vehicle with a dipstick
>Oil sensor goes out
>Dip stick shows oil loss
>Engine is trouble shot and fixed for $50 or ignored and regular check oil with dipstick
Vs.
Vehicle without a dipstick
>Oil sensor goes out
>Engine keeps running because computer is getting faulting readings
>Runs out of oil
>Spins bearings
>Turbo dentates
>Engine overheats and cracks block
>Engine needs to be replaced over the failure of a $50 part
>6 month wait for parts
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>>542790273
Well buy one that has a v6 like I did. I fucking love it.
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>>Semi loads don't exist nor do they need transport. Fuck you guys I got mine bitchezzzz!!!!
Fungi
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>>542789903
Both ram and ford have great powertrains now. 6.7 to 10r140 and Cummins 6.7 to zf8 is about as good as you can get out of a vehicle.
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>>542790081
The majority of transmission are some form of automatic. These don't use a gear engagement shaft, it's all planetary gear sets and hydraulic clutch packs and break bands.
Fuck up the fluid flow with a bad seal and it will not engage for that gear.
Clutch or break bands glaze over and it's fucked.
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>>542790583
Never forget those faggot dodge brothers are THE reason we live in this faggot consumerslop society. And if you honestly believe dodge vehicles are reliable maybe the Jews are right about the goyim
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tl;dr I never check my dipstick. Ever.

The new trucks have MDS and the little oil passages get clogged and you get the hemi/LS tick. I don't ever check my oil because I change the shit every 3000 miles. New engines are sealed very good, no leaks, and if you aren't bouncing it off the rev limiter as soon as you cold start it the engine will last 200,000 miles.
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>>542778462
BMWs have been doing this since the early 2010s. I guarantee you they are digitizing it (which is a gay mistake) but still.
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>>542790533
There is no error condition the sensor could get into where the main computer won't know there's a sensor fault. Fuck people on this board are just retarded.
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Enjoy your goytrugg, Kyle, lmao
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>>542790796
Don’t buy dodge vehicles? I haven’t
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>>542790706
Oh, I'm sorry, I've never used an automatic, it's just not popular here. Then what you're saying makes sense.
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>>542790828
>But the computer will know if it fails
Lol, LMAO even
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>>542789573
We spent $10 million changing the cracker machines production to make the cracker sizes smaller to sell them at the same price at Nabisco. Suck crackers fags.
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>>542790881
Have you never dealt with faulty sensors in a vehicle before? You think if the sensor fails its just gonna report that the oil level is full?
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>>542789919
The old 90s and early 00s ford rangers were perfectly fine daily driver trucks for people who usually didn't need to actually haul things.

That's done. They're not selling a cheap small truck anymore.
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>>542790081
we aren't talking about a Lada kopeyka, Alyosha
it's an automatic with electronics
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>>542790837
Manuel are special order here now. It's getting that way for semi trucks also. To the point that most CDL holders don't even have the endorsement for a manual. (It's still an Allison automatic, that is just a manual with a computer controlled shifter)
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>>542790984
the only cars that ever had reliable warning lights for low oil are german
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>>542790828
No u. Seriously.
T. Expert PhD in stuff. Really.
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>>542778462
They have an oil level sensor in the oil pan, making dipsticks redundant.

It's similar to the evolution from manually checking tire pressure to utilizing tire pressure sensors.
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>>542778462
THEY HATE YOU AND WANT YOU TO BE THEIR SLAVE
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>>542790823
>BMWs have been doing this since the early 2010s
Yeah but it's only bad when Americans do it. Just like plastic oil pans and subscription heated seats are fine when BMW does it but bad if GM tries it.
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>>542790984
Yes, a sensors getting fouled by cooked oil is common. They will hold a oil level reading and the computer will never know.
The majority of faults in new vehicles is electric issues. Changing it so that only an electric sensor can tell you the level of your oil is "trust the science" vax retardation.
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MY ONLY QUESTION IS CAN WE MAKE THE HEADLIGHTS HIGHER? AND WHITER? THANKS
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>>542791130
ive had an oil pan busted on a toyota and it never warned me that the oil was low, i saved it by pulling off and turning it off because i hit a shovel on the highway at night
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>>542789794
Its 2 pieces of plastic melted together. You aren't resealing that. Then when a little moisture gets in it shatters the 750°C bulb. C'mon. You know that.
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>>542778690
>I'm only sticking to used cars.
>>542781863
>Good luck with that. Replacement parts are in the shitter. Private equity is buying up the junkyards destroying those parts.

Literally this, just google "junkyard fire" and you'll be amazed at the results. Over the past few years, dozens of different junkyards around the country have somehow gone up in flames, each time destroying hundreds or in some cases over 1000 cars. Once those used cars are destroyed you can't harvest them for parts
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>>542791049
and german cars have mostly moved away from the dipstick. And most non-german cars never really had oil level sensors at all, just the standard idiot light sensor that comes on when your engine is already fucked.
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>>542786678
How much transmission maintenance did you do? I bet you never once changed the fluid like everyone else.
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>>542778462
so they can charge an extra £30 for the dipstick, without hurting sales because most users probably don't even know about it
trying to absorb even more of that consumer surplus
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>>542786287
The Chinese have fixed this issue of needing multi thousand dollar diagnostic tools. You can get ones for a few hundred bucks that does everything.
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>>542791189
they want us goyim (and you goyim too) in public transit
they want cars to be only for the rich, like 100 years ago
and for government officials, of course
can't have commiesars on the bus
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We've known for several years now that they're intentionally designing newer cars so that you can't do even basic barebones repairs yourself and have to take them to be serviced. This is a shock?
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Reminder American cars are built by Mexicans
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>>542791316
jews are just stupid, they should let old white women or karen sell chinese cars by being their adopters, then they can hack them and spy on karen
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>>542778462
checking your own oil is highly antisemitic
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>>542791393
>spy on karen
what for?
to die of boredom?
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>>542791509
eventually the younger karens will buy them if old karens were impressed with them
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>>542790828
Its called a fail state and that isn't what that anon was talking talking about, retard. Does it fail open or closed? Do you know? No. Shut up.
What does happen is when the sensor fails it sends a signal to ecu that it can't read the level.
Lets compare this to an O2 sensor failure, dipshit. Its not that your cats failed you get a check engine light and your car goes into limp mode. The sensor reading the oxygen ratio passing by it fails and your car goes into limp mode.
Now, lets compare the 2. Which is more catastrophic? Low engine oil/the possibility of low engine oil due to a sensor or increased CO2 going through your exhaust/a sensor failure.
It's like you're a fucking shill or terribly butthurt your favorite manufacturer is being called a kike.
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>>542790241
Aka you didn't read the article.
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>>542791028
It would have been sweet if they just kept selling those for years and years lol. Like the B Series with the 2.5 skyactiv after the 2.3l
A lot of unibody cars weigh more than those things now
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>>542791130
>It's similar to the evolution from manually checking tire pressure to utilizing tire pressure sensors.
yeah what a huge improvement instead of just looking at your tire or checking with an analog pressure stick now let's use sensors that break all the time and constantly throw dashboard warnings and also have Bluetooth enabled to help flock cams track you better
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>>542789931
I'm a mechanic. You'd rather have a dipstick. I don't count my money until it's in my hands. Your talking best case scenario. Go ahead and buy one then Holmes. Mark my words. There's going to be a lot of people in a few years yelling about how they want a class action lawsuit because of this. The only reason that they would do this is to cut costs. It's literally the only reason. They do not care about you or functionality. Some fucking bean counter came up with this idea.
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>>542778462
us cars are garbage who cares
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>>542781221
14hr bluebook shop labor charge on alternator change vw tourag. -We know what we are doing. Fuck you! Who are you anyway!
Oh? Good. Hope it all burns.
>>Needs more accerant for my liking personally. Stacy/Gary you hear me out there?
Yes.
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>>542791771
Even cutting costs does not make sense of the equation because modifying fabrication of the standardized block castings will cost. It's a "pogrom" of "them". That's final. For everyone and everything. (You) are "standardized" to them too<goes for most of the global population, the way "they" look at it all, sorry to say. Especially at this time and place in history, again. Doesn't have to be this way but is and will get much much worse at "warp speed". I have no horse in this race am probably dying. I was only a spectator.
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>>542791765
They're very reliable, on every new car, and give you real time time pressure updates in your instrument cluster at all times.
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>>542791771
>The only reason that they would do this is to cut cost
The electronic sensor in the oil pan costs more than a dipstick. They moved to the sensor for reliability, so people like you don't run your engines with a low oil level.
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>>542778462
You'd have to be retarded to ever buy a car from an American brand.
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>>542790831
What do you have against trucks? My cock is a cervix smasher and I think big lifted trucks are awesome. Did your dad never take you to see monster jam? Do you not plan on smashing through any police blockades? Are you even on any government watchlists or just the Reddit moderator lists? Did your dad even love you?
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>>542791509
Sexual jollies/physical/perverse mental stimulation+control, overpowerment,ownership,rape right in front of you etc. Stuff like that. Really. I am not kidding. I am not. It matters to them alot. It's everything to them actually. Makes life worth living to them, those things. Their fancy and that is "fancy" and they "fancy" it because to them they like it. Can't get enough either. Never enough. Never. Yes. It's like that.
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>>542778462
Volvo did this once, it didn't get past concept. Pic related



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