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Why didn't the Great Chinese ever discover electricity and study its ways, for example?
>how was electricity discovered
>Electricity was not invented by one single person; it is a natural force that was uncovered and understood by many scientists over thousands of years.
>Ancient Discoveries
>Electric fish:
>Ancient Egyptians and Greeks wrote about the numbing shocks from electric catfish and rays around 2750 BCE.
>Static electricity: Around 600 BCE, the Greek philosopher Thales of Miletus found that rubbing amber with animal fur attracted light objects like feathers.
>The 17th and 18th Centuries
>Naming electricity: In 1600, English scientist William Gilbert used the Greek word for amber (elektron) to coin the terms "electric" and "electricity".
>Generating sparks: In 1709, Francis Hauksbee built a spinning glass globe that created static electricity and glowed in the dark.
>Lightning is electric: In 1752, Benjamin Franklin flew a kite during a thunderstorm with a metal key attached. Sparks jumped from the key, proving that lightning is a natural electrical current.
Rationalism and scientific thinking. This is something the Chinese struggle with to the present day.
Empirical approach. Trial and error. Test sample, experimental sample, hypothesis, experiment, result.
>The 19th Century and Practical Power
>The first battery: In 1800, Italian physicist Alessandro Volta invented the voltaic pile, which was the first device to create a steady flow of electrical current.
>Electromagnetism: In 1831, Michael Faraday discovered electromagnetic induction, showing that moving a magnet near a wire generates electricity. This led to the first electric generators.
>Light and grids: Later in the century, inventors like Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla developed practical lightbulbs and the power grids that bring electricity to our homes today.
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BTW: This AI overview forgets about Maxwell and Orsted but it's also worth mentioning that the English scientist William Gilbert was afaik the first to link electricity to magneticism and the other way round. His naming of electricity was in a book about magneticism.
What helped Western theories was the concept of treating electricity similar to hydraulics. Treating the flow of electrons as something similar to hydraulics.

Hence the "century of humiliation" in China. It was self-imposed. Look at Japan. They adapted way better.
Here's China's history with electricity:
>Ancient Chinese people did not have a scientific understanding of electricity, but they knew about and recorded natural electrical phenomena like lightning.
>Understanding Lightning and Static Lightning as a natural force:
>The ancient Chinese observed lightning and used the character 電 (diàn) to describe it long before modern electricity was discovered.
>No electrical theory:
>Like other ancient civilizations, they did not conduct controlled experiments with static electricity or develop a formal theory of electromagnetism.
>Categorization: Atmospheric electricity seen in storms was viewed as a meteorological or natural phenomenon rather than a distinct form of energy.
>Magnetism vs. Electricity
>Lodestones: While electricity was not studied, the ancient Chinese independently discovered magnetism and lodestones around the 4th century BC or earlier.
>The Compass: They invented the magnetic compass by around the 11th century (Song dynasty), using magnetized needles for navigation.
and finally
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>Modern Introduction: Practical applications of electricity (like lightbulbs and electric grids) were only introduced to China from the West in the 1870s during the late Qing dynasty.
no wonder it was the century of humiliation. you live for at least half a millennium stagnating (since the Mongol conuest in the late 1200s-1300s) and falling behind while feeling all mighty and as the "middle kingdom" and then look around and everyone around you has "graduated" that must be humiliating indeed. yet Japan pulled itself up by its bootstraps and now won against Russia! in 1904-1905 double humiliating
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>Why didn't the Great Chinese ever discover electricity and study its ways, for example?
Because europeans are too butthurt to look up Chinese discoveries.
>The most famous observation was that rubbed amber (and tortoiseshell) could attract light objects like grass or mustard seeds. This was called "顿牟掇芥" (dùn móu duō jiè) .

>Earliest records: As early as the Western Han dynasty (around 100 BC), the text Chunqiu Kaoyi You noted that "tortoiseshell attracts grass seeds." Wang Chong in the Eastern Han (around 90 AD) wrote about "Dunmou picks up mustard seeds" and "magnetite attracts needles," recognizing these as distinct "qi" (气) phenomena .

>Practical use: By the Southern Dynasties (around 500 AD), this effect was used to test the authenticity of amber. Tao Hongjing noted that real amber, when rubbed with the palm until warm, would pick up mustard seeds .

>A curious refinement: A 12-year-old boy named Yu Fan in the Three Kingdoms period astutely pointed out that decayed or damp grass was not attracted. This was an early implicit observation that moisture (water) affects static attraction .
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>>542799862
>chatgpt slop thread
Why didnt Rome, The Holy Roman, Prussian and the British Empire and the Persian math geniuses whos numbers and math you stole "just discover electricity", Amerimutt?

Btw what did you or you dad your granddad our your whore of a mother invent?
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Static Sparks and Crackles
Ancient scholars also noticed the sparks and sounds produced by friction in daily life, especially in dry winter conditions.

Combing hair: Zhang Hua in the Western Jin dynasty (around 290 AD) recorded that when people combed their hair or adjusted hairpins, they could see light and hear a crackling sound .

Fur and silk clothing: The Ming dynasty statesman Zhang Juzheng noted that in cold winter, fur and silk garments would emit light, and when shaken, would produce a crackling sound like fireworks. Another scholar, Du Qiong, wrote about rubbing silk fabrics in a dark room until sparks flew .
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Lightning as a Natural Phenomenon
While often seen as a celestial sign, some scholars analyzed lightning rationally.

Lightning as fire: Wang Chong in the Eastern Han argued that lightning was essentially fire (huo), based on evidence like burnt skin and hair, and the burning of buildings and trees. He explicitly rejected the idea that it was divine anger .

Conductors vs. Insulators: Shen Kuo in the Song dynasty recorded a curious case where lightning melted silver inside a lacquered wooden box without burning the box, and melted a knife inside a leather sheath without damaging the sheath. This hinted at the different conductive properties of materials .

St. Elmo's fire: Historical records also noted "fire on spear tips" (矛端生火), which is now understood as a corona discharge or St. Elmo's fire. This was observed by soldiers in the Han dynasty and later in the Yuan dynasty.

Stay butthurt Polack.
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>>542800075
>Japan pulled itself up by its bootstraps
>1904-1905
Japan was completely bankrupt and its entire invasion of Russia and invasion of China funded and literally fueled by Judeo-Amerimutt Rothschild bankers until almost a decade into the invasion of China when Amerimutts cut the lifeline and backstabbed Japs. Nevermind Brits building, directing and operating Japans entire naval industry to fuck with Russia. We have that on record.

Thanks for confirming you're just the usual seething Amerimutt bugman on the usual VPN farm spamming Amerimutt lies and history revisionist slop.
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>>542800085
>isolated observations without any theory linking them
yup. like a buncha retarded insects in a hive. remembering experiences, not trying to understand why and how the world WORKS
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>>542800961
>without any theory linking them
Except they wrote all of it down, the destructive properties, to ways to shield and insulate themselves from it.

Stay
Butthurt
Polack
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>>542800130
>Why didnt Rome, The Holy Roman, Prussian and the British Empire and the Persian math geniuses whos numbers and math you stole "just discover electricity", Amerimutt?
1. I'm Polish
2. Clearly Americans didn't discover electricity and how to wield it alone. I think you're the chatgpt slop here, you don't even have proper reading comprehension.
3. So in fact I'm comparing the whole Western civilization to China as the foremost representative of Eastern civilization. You listed a bunch of countries but I'm comparing only to one. I could also list: Burma, Vietnam, Laos, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia etc. but this isn't a wider Western/Eastern civilization dick-measuring contest but a critical look at China's false confidence based on not much really
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>>542799862
none of that is impressive or scientific until the 1700s. Europeans were the same as the rest of the world until recently
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>>542801067
>Except they wrote all of it down, the destructive properties, to ways to shield and insulate themselves from it.
and so did Ancient Greeks and Egyptians, how is that in any way significant?
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The ancient greeks experimented with steam power, making some useless fidget spinner mechanism using steam. It never went that, just some novel little trick. The first use of steam power was to pump water out of mines, and from there it exploded it terms of new ideas
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>>542801094
>a critical look at China's false confidence based on not much really
Why did European Northvolt bankrupt themselves trying to reverse engineering China's battery technology?
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>>542801157
Why are you seething about China today you cuckstain faggot?
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>>542801143
>Europeans were the same as the rest of the world until recently
No. Western thought really only emerges with the Ancient Greek philosophers. Western thought is defined by rationalism, the adherence to reason and logic. Eastern thought is defined by the opposite: rejection of reason, rejection of logic (yin AND yang = Tao, don't think, only try; or how about Buddhism which is basically entirely about nuking your sense of self and thinking)
This roughly begins with Plato in whom you can still see some perennial traditions still like his little-talked-about mysticism, his monism, the concept of immortal soul etc.
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>>542801157
>and so did Ancient Greeks and Egyptians, how is that in any way significant?
Because you're the moron who said they couldn't do anything.
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>>542801281
How many space stations does POO-land have? Run along and go to church and worship your gay pedo rapist god that demands child sacrifice
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>>542801383
Cool, they can strap a pressurized metal cube onto 1940s technology and swing it using this 1940s technology hard enough that it stays up there. What for?
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>>542801281
>Western thought is defined by rationalism, the adherence to reason and logic. Eastern thought is defined by the opposite:
See>>542800209
>Chinese scholars analyzed lightning rationally.

Meanwhile in europe
>For centuries, Western medical science relied on theories that seem entirely bizarre and counterproductive today. While these practices were logical within the frameworks of their time, they caused immense suffering and frequently killed the patients they were meant to cure.Here are some of the most irrational and dangerous medical practices from Old-World Western history: The Tobacco Smoke EnemaIn the 18th century, drowning victims pulled from rivers like the Thames were routinely given tobacco smoke enemas.The Theory: Western doctors believed the warmth and stimulating properties of tobacco smoke could dry out a person's insides, kickstart the respiratory system, and revive the unconscious.The Practice: Special kits with bellows and tubing were placed along waterways. Doctors or bystanders would literally blow smoke up the patient's rectum. The practice was later abandoned in the 19th century when nicotine was discovered to be toxic to the heart.
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>>542801455
>1940s technology
That you don't have.
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>>542801455
>where is the pooland space program? You worship a Jewish zombie cuckstain. So much for rational thought.
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>>542801281
>Western thought is defined by rationalism, the adherence to reason and logic

Humoral Theory & Bloodletting
>From antiquity until the late 19th century, Western medicine was dominated by the Humoral Theory formulated by Hippocrates and Galen.The Theory: The human body was believed to be controlled by four fluids ("humors"): blood, phlegm, yellow bile, and black bile. Illness meant these humors were unbalanced.The Practice: To restore balance, doctors used lancets or leeches to drain vast amounts of blood from patients suffering from anything from the plague to a common cold. This heavily depleted the patient's immune system, often inducing cardiac arrest or fatal infections.
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>>542801624
Poles truly are Indian tier. POOOOOLAND super power 2030 saaar!
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>>542801281
>Western thought is defined by rationalism, the adherence to reason and logic

Corpse Medicine (Medical Cannibalism)
>During the 16th and 17th centuries, European pharmacies regularly stocked human remains as core medical ingredients.
>The Theory: Under a concept called the "sympathetic magic" of medicine, it was believed that like cures like. Consuming a specific part of a healthy dead person would heal that same part of your living body.
>The Practice: Crushed human skull was prescribed for headaches, human fat was rubbed on aching joints, and the blood of recently executed criminals was drunk fresh to treat epilepsy. Wealthy Europeans, including royalty, regularly ingested formulations containing mummified remains.
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>>542801281
>Western thought is defined by rationalism, the adherence to reason and logic

Heavy Metal Overdoses (Mercury and Arsenic)
>Before the discovery of antibiotics like penicillin, Renaissance and Victorian doctors turned to toxic heavy metals to cure aggressive diseases like syphilis.
>The Theory: Syphilis caused gruesome skin ulcers; heavy metals like mercury and arsenic were powerful enough to destroy external lesions, leading doctors to believe they were purifying the blood.
>The Practice: Patients were subjected to "mercury rubs," heavy vapors, or pills. The side effects—heavy salivation, losing teeth, liver damage, and neurological collapse—were often chalked up to the medicine "working" to expel the disease, though it frequently resulted in fatal mercury poisoning.
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>Saaaaaar POOOLAND SUPER POWER becuase ummm…PLATO (a Greek).
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POOOLAND SUPER POWER 2030!!!!
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>>542801281
>Western thought is defined by rationalism, the adherence to reason and logic

"Wandering Womb" & Female Hysteria
>In ancient Greece and later Victorian Europe, a massive range of psychological and physical symptoms in women (anxiety, insomnia, irritability) were diagnosed as female hysteria.
>The Theory: Prominent physicians believed the uterus was a detached, living creature that "wandered" freely around a woman's body, pressing against other organs and causing madness.
>The Practice: To lure the uterus back into place, doctors would apply pleasant-smelling perfumes to the pelvic area and foul-smelling substances near the nose. By the 19th century, Victorian doctors treated "hysteria" by manually massaging a woman's genitals to induce "hysterical paroxysm" (orgasm), a tedious task that directly led to the invention of the mechanical vibrator.
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>>542801094
China invented paper and gunpowder. your fixation with electricity may be a sign of autism, but still is also a sign of curiosity.
>century of humiliation
it happens to every culture, China is back on track. if you look at it with a long term approach, it was not much
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>>542802030
Poland strong saaaar!
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holy fuck poleanon got beat the fuck down by a memeflag.
this is great.
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Holy shit, I knew we had a lot of Israeli/MacDill Air Force Base here but to see Chinese Wolf Warriors get this upset over Electricity is funny
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>>542802279
Your buttbuddy already closed the tab and retreated.
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>>542801948
I noitced that one jewish looking man holding the phone up.
I'm surprised his hands weren't rubbing together.
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>>542802363
Woah, I'm not polish, I am just shocked you guys broke the great internet wall thing and possibly face gulag time to get upset at some pole using chatgpt about electricity
I am pro-nationalist regardless of what country you are from
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>>542802473
>Woah, I'm not polish,
Woah, I'm not Chinese. See how this is valid both ways?

Our continents are at war with each other so I'm sticking to my big bro.
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>>542802556
>Woah, I'm not Chinese
I am pronationalist so I don't mind what you are.
>Our continents are at war
Impossible, I do not fight banker wars
Trade War? Fine. Culture War? Sure. But we're not enemies.
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>>542802702
>But we're not enemies.
We have been enemies since 500 years ago.
From the Spanish, to the Brits/French/Dutch, to the Amerimutts.

>I don't mind what you are.
I'm just trying to demonstrate you can be faulty by assuming too many things about me.
Since our 2 continents are ancient enemies, I can defend them when they are not here to defend themselves.
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>>542801541
we're a capitalist liberal democracy, we have gibs to promise and give out, we couldn't care less about spending a fuckton of money on some white elephant project - BUT IN SPACE THO!
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>>542800130
Hellenistic Greeks did "discover" electricity. And as an extension, I'm sure the Romans were also aware of it. Electricity, the word itself, ultimately comes from a Greek word, ήλεκτρον, it means amber.

But material science was not advanced enough to further study these phenomena.
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>>542802895
>we couldn't care less about spending a fuckton of money on some white elephant project
China has lots of these, some end with peofitable results,
some needs to exist just to the evil europeans don't get an advantage to invade once again.

It's quite obvious why you are so butthurt at China's space program. Never assume your enemy can't read your thoughts, eurotard.
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>>542802892
>We have been enemies since 500 years ago.
I don't think I was alive back then. I hope you live well and have a beautiful family anon.
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>>542800130
>Europeans invented soulless apple slop industrial design
is this supposed to be a good thing?
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>>542801196
Are you sure about that? 99% of Roman history is unknown. Germans are known liars btw, Gutenberg did not invent the printing press or movable type, Gutenberg was a known charlatan selling fake holy items. And the pocket watch was invented by Da Vinci well before that German guy forgot his name.
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