When will we get affordable graphics cards again?
>>542805068When top range GPUs peak at 15gb of VRAM but have a GeforceNow boost function if you keep them online and pay a subscription for a rendering boost from the cloud
>>542805068Golden Age slave niggers eat your sloppy slop
>>542805068i was thinking last night i want to upgrade my 3070ti but i think ill just buy a new fucking fence for my house instead with the money
>>542805068Never. It is by designed that computer parts are overpriced and will continue to do so. You will eventually buy a subscription PC with AI capabilities that will control your pathetic life. You will own nothing and be happy.
>>542805068a 5090 isn't for vidya, it's for when you're too poor for an RTX 6000.
i thought i was getting fucked when I got my ROG Astral 5090 got taken out of my cart for being 'out of stock' and bumped up $700same card now costs $5000 more than when i bought it
>>542805068AI is for NPCs, and retro games have soul. Problem solved.
>>542805068time for GameCube console, faggotthanks Trump
>>542805068never ever
>>542805068I'm waiting for china to develop affordable graphic cards
>>542805068>Sold outWell it seems some people have money while others don´t, sucks to be you
>>542805068When I read that the 6090 would have meager 32GB VRAM only I decided to skip another gen of GPUS. I would readily pay 600 more for 64GB of VRAM but I won't pay $3999 MSRP for just 32GB. It's not worth it over the 24GB of my 4090.
>>542805450It's not even potent enough for 5k2k PT Ultra DLSS 5.
>>542805068I pray that current gaming continues to be shit so I don't FOMO over the fact that I am stuck on a 4060
>The more you buy, the more you save
>>542805068I have a 4080 and a 3060 in my work desktop, i don't need anything more
>>542805457Holy fucking jew Batman
>>542805068Never, Bezos said it, you will rent computing power through a terminal, days of pc building are over
AMD Radeon HD 5800 series reporting in. What am I missing bros?
>You mysognistic, anti semitic goy cattle!>You won´t complain>You will suck up the inflated prices>You will remain incel for the rest of your life>You will be humiliated constantly>You will pay for slop and boring games>You will be forced to work harder and have your wages deducted to make up for women in your jobs>You won´t own nothing, not even your fucking dog>You will be jewish property>So don´t complain and get back to your job, pathetic incel!
>>542805068My graphics cards will be ordering people soon chud.
Imagine playing modern sloppa. 1080ti going strong 10 years now and outperforms most of your shitcards.
>>542805945>AMD Radeon HD 5800Pretty much Everything.
>>542806204Yeah, my 770's still rockin.
>>542805068Every graphics card is affordable if you steal it through return fraud.
>>542805068Not until you hang the billionaires and politicians that brought this on.
>>542805068See how it says "sold out"?That's why it's expensive. Extremely high demand home AI modelers and gamers/streamers.
>>542806970not reallynvidia has made like 5k chips world wide only on purposeit's a con
I'm just going to stick to the steam deck I was given as a gift, thanks. Modern sloppa games aren't worth the time to play even if they're free.
>>542807039It's still supply and demand. the 5090 is a luxury item. You want one, you have to pay for it. Though I don't know why you'd want one.
Last chopper out of saigon was december 2025
>>542807471>luxury itemit will be obsolete in 2 yearsnvidia can do these retarded tactics because it can sell stonks to boomer retards there is massive oversupply of decent GPU leftover from the mining boom
If the jews don't fix this soon we'll be forced to play irl
>>542807108I wish I bought one of these before it ballooned
only retards and nepobabies buy top of the line graphics cardsget last years chip
>>542805068When you put jews and their shabbos goy race traitors in camps and seize the literally 90% of the world's assets they stole from you using your banks and your military.
>>542805450>>542805594Poor fag cope. The cards just got announced and are year or two away still. >I'll just wait two years to game then it will be worth my time! Even at 7 or 8k for a hobby, that's like a cheap used dirtbike. 100% both of you faggots are single losers.
>>542807538>it will be obsolete in 2 yearsbuddy, moores law is dead. 40 series cards are still over $1k. If it can run games and AI, it will remain expensive.
>>542807585To play what?
>>542805068You don't need a 5090 either way, faggot.
>>542807643buddy you are entering the value phase just wait a bit and it will be cheap and good
>>542805068I don't need that shit to play '00s kino
>>542807588>get last years chipThat's not an option since the previous generation RTX 4000 series has been sold out for a long time because they're not manufactured anymore and can't be purchased without paying a 3x markup
>>542805519The vidja card is actually more expensive than the model holding it.
>>5428050682 more years
>>542807588>get last years chip
>>542807652Noita, N, legacy of the duelist, psx2 emulation
>when will RTX 5090 become affordable>when will mansions become affordable>when will ferraris become affordable
>>542807694I don't think we can apply previous knowledge of prices cycles to the current situation
>>542808007well Pajeet, then buy the 7k plastic board
>>542805068What do people even do with these things besides generate 8 seconds worth of AI loli porn? They aren't big enough to run decent llms. >gaymingI swear to god you faggots better not say that shit.
>>542805068After the Greater Depression
>>542805068Not until we can generate vydia games like this from a cellphone cpu
>>542807777checked, and a grand is nothing these days. if you dont have $1000 spare you're a jobless poorfag.
I'm still using a 1050ti because I like my old computer, and it dies I'm just going to buy a prebuilt with a 5060 in it.I like the enthusiast stuff but it's just not necessary.
>>542805316>and pay a subscription for a rendering boost from the cloudNot how graphics rendering works. If it could, no one would be paying thousands for a card on their machine.>>542805457Similar when my first 5090 was DOA. Month long return/refund process meant a price hike. Then paying a few hundred on top of that because I decided to get the second in store so as not to risk another month if the second one was DOA.Still, the card's doubled in price since then (a year ago) so happy with the timing.It's a weird spot to be in though. Lot of shit I have my humble net worth in is AI related and shit I actually want to use / acquire more of. So prices going up is nice on paper, but means I can't afford more. It's also shit that I want to use, not sell.
>>542805068I remember when the 2080 TI was the peak of graphics, I member going on Minecraft and turning on RTX for the first time and being amazed. Sigh.
>>542808114gayms for life anon
>>542808393Yes, but blowing a grand on negligible graphics improvements to play some video game is the kind of decision that will keep someone poor.
>>542805068Why is Nvidia even still making gaming cards at this point? They make more from the AI cards, it's a waste of resources at this point.
You can build an a.i. computer with new graphics cards that code for you. plus you can create them in virtual machine modelling an A.I. os model with autonomous driver support (the computer interfaces with anything without a human to code for it, even at a firmware level)
>>542808065>memeflag calling anyone pajeetyou're retarded if you buy now and you're retarded if you waited. time to get a new hobby besides video gaming.
>>542805068Never. Welcome to the new normal.
>>542808962Or an investment in an open source AI workstation to learn the technology will pay off in spades. Or maybe not.
>>542805734mama jenson is making me uncomfortable, i don't appreciate picrel anon.
>>542805068There are already affordable options. You are selecting the top end.
>>542809315
>>542805068I bought a Zotac 5070 Solid triple fan for $480. Glad I got that shit when I did.
Never. Not that it matters. Media has gone to shit across the board.
>>542805363I recently upgraded from a 3070ti to a 5070ti and I'm so glad I did. I thought I was stupid for paying 1500CAD but then Voices38 started cracking all the AAA games and I've been on an insane 4K video gaming binge.
>>542809459>no mama jenson! I've been a good boy! and I'm too hold for hugs!
everybody's getting free graphics cards when Communist China takes over Taiwan
Glad I got a 24GB years ago for $1200.Qwen 3.6-35-A3B MTP Q5_K_XL is great
>>542809580piratechads keep winning
>>542809580What AAA game is even worth pirating? Kek
>>542805068we need something alternative to silicon for compute
>>542810071or just demolish the jewish silicon monopoly. Look at what % of Israelis own the chip schematics and all the hardware that goes into lithography
>>542808632>Not how graphics rendering works.Not how it works "now"
>>542809266That's what my 5090 was for as well as my DIEM. So far, the investments have literally gained in value, plus gave me a huge edge at work when the bosses all decided to pivot into AI.But as somebody dropping thousands on this stuff as work tools and investments, it's weird hearing gamers whine about not having the top of the line consumer-grade cards.
>>542807039Because all of their allocation goes to AI. And local AI buyers bid up any card with lots of memory. They made $60 billion last quarter.
>>542805068That's the great thing, you won't! This country has signed a faustian bargain with the tech oligarchs - we want control of as much compute at scale as possible, and in exchange they get priority access within the military industrial sphere. In fact palantir, spacex, anduril and the like arguably hold more power now than the traditional defense primes (boeing, lockheed-martin, etc) and will most certainly hold far more power in the years to come.We're racing to AGI to beat China (or something) so ensuring these big tech faggots have all the compute (and energy, dont forget rising energy costs as you get to subsidize these faggots power consumption too!) they need is a matter of national security.
>>542810220The physical distance matters a lot. Graphic rendering determines the precise.. uhh... graphics shown on your screen X in intervals of milliseconds. The internet just doesn't go that fast. When you play an MMO or a FPS, the graphic work is happening on your machine. You're just getting data about what to render over the internet, it's not doing the actual rendering. A card literally in your machine will be extraordinarily faster at rendering graphics than the internet. Even when you load a website, the visual stuff you see is rendered on your machine, you're just receiving minimally required data for your internet browser to know what/how to render it.
>>542805068
>>542810071neuromorphic hardware, spiking neural networks. but not sure they can pull it off for LLMs yet. it's still at the very beginnings of development. atm they're used in very simple applications in sensors and shit. ultra low power
>>542805068By the time we will get them we all will be long dead and gone.
>>542809777>Qwen 3.6-35-A3B MTP Q5_K_XLQuen sucks ngl. Its an even bigger HR cunt than Sam Altmans shitty AI is.>big oooof thats really spicy I don't think we should continue this conversationFuck off cunt. You are a stolen chinkware version of ShatGPT. Know your fucking role.
>>542806638>return fraudcare to explain ?
>>542810886>buy gpu>carefully open package>fill package with bullshit for weight>return>free gpuThis also works for unlimited free returns. Just buy another one of what youre returning and swap them out.
>>542809580Plenty of good AAA came out lately, but I've been mostly playing:>Stellar Blade>Resident Evil 9>Death Stranding 2>AC Black Flag Remake. Keeping Fatal Frame 2 Remake for next month.
>>542805068No. They've seen people will pay these prices, dumb fucks that they are.
>>542811435>comes out of a cave since 2017
>>542809611
>>542805068When you pry them from the heads of the Terminators you kill
>>542805068Why are you as a man playing video games? You should be fighting in Donbas
>>542810883Seethe
>>542805068Affordability is a democrat hoax!You lost tranny!
>>542805068Never.I work programmatically with AI every day which includes renting Cloud GPU compute power and demand is so beyond GPU supply you often have to enter a queue and wait and often are told "Sorry no GPU is currently available to rent".This is why Data Centers are going to be going up like crazy until there's a minimum of 10 maybe 100x more of them, this will take decades and demand is there.Only thing that could change that is if more compute efficient AI architecture is discovered or there is a GPU breakthrough making each GPU 10-100x more powerful or someone "changes the game" allowing distributed/decentralized GPU compute to outcompete Elite-owned centralized Data Centers. etc
>>542812624I'd invest all my money in Data Centers or other things related to AI Compute requirements if my monthly essential expenses didn't already exceed my entire income meaning there's no way I can invest anything.
I know what i'm buying with my 5,000 dollars. Gonna build me an ai computer.
>>542805068When you post the same fucking thread for 40,382nd time. Only 39,184 to go!
>>542805068When you commit suicide and you go to a world where elf girls want your dick for knowing what a computer is
>>542808114>gaymingI don't see a world where that'd be necessary. From this year i tried out RE4 remake and Expedition 33, all parameters in Ultra, running on a 5 years old 3060 RTX who costed like 300 bux back then. Was running smoothly at 60+ FPS.Why do ppl pretend they need the latest GeSlop when low tier 5 years old gens are enough to run any recent AAA title?
>>542805068Not any time soon buy Intel or old hardware
>>542810941>they open the package>notice the bullshit>charge you the full price
having a shit gpu means rogue ai won't hijack your pc
>>542805068Probably not, I bought a 5080 just as a backup cardThere's a pcb shortage about to gut the industry even further so they will probably also be 10k dollars by January
>>542805068I bought a gaming laptop with a 5080, paid about 2600$ on sale. The same laptop is now on ‘sale’ for $3500.
>>542805068>canadian fun bucks ok how much in real money
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT or Intel Arc B580
5060ti 16 gb is pretty affordable and you can run any game at 1080p with it...
>>542810829Show the world a country can still fight back against it's government
>>542812624> this will take decades and demand is there.This is actually both the problem and the solution. We're all getting cheap, firesale blackwells soon. All the GPUs are sitting in warehouses collecting dust, aging out, waiting to go into data centers that aren't built yet. NVIDIA is extorting the global economy forcing FAGMAN companies to pre-order his current slop in such quantities that they won't ever go in service. Once the dam cracks the wheels are going to fall off quick and these now old gpus will absolutely flood the market.
>>542817798damn good point mr high IQ (higher than me at least kek)
>>542817798> Once the dam cracks the wheels are going to fall off quick and these now old gpus will absolutely flood the market.That's bullshit, but I'm rolling for that to happen.
>>542805068never. big tech sees consumer GPUs as an inefficient waste of materials. they're pushing for very limited cloud use for home users while they have unlimited use for themselves.
>>542805068never again you idiot. the only one making these are euros. none of you dipshits can do this because youre literal retards.prepare for 25.000. this is what i call eu first.
>>542805068when drumpf goes on our nerves you no more get any rtx cards, then you can play on some 386 because this is what you can actually build haha.
>>542805068Never That’s over
>>542817933this.they are running forced scarcity, just like with food and energy, so people can't buy computers anymore.then they'll declare home computers (((unsustainable))) and start selling terminals only, which connect to remote servers/data centres.terminals will have no ports and no local storage possible apart from some crappy ram drive to store non-user editable cache on.that way everyone runs everything through data centres, no one has any access to their own files unless they pay the endless subscription that at some point will just be turned into a set tax you have to pay.anyone trying to keep running a real computer will be detected through smart meters and heavily fined for 'climate' reasons.might take 5-10 years, but that's what they want. total ownership, total control, total surveillance.the terminal tablets themselves will just be rented, identical, and unlocked to your online presence account with fingerprint, face scan, retina scan, chip in hand.screenshot my post and print it out so you can still view it 5 years from now.
>>542805068We don't even have unaffordable graphics cards. Modern "graphics" cards are just AI slop generators, they have not made actual graphics cards in years.
>>542808114Local chatbots are the big thing now. Not just porn but stuff like running entire D&D campaigns.It's really good now already and a high end PC can run it without needing a data center.
>>542805363should ve bought a 5070ti when they where $700 or 5080 for $900. New cards will not be availible for 2 more years.
>>542805363Cards other than the 5090 really arent that bad. You can get a 9070xt for like $700, which is a huge upgrade from a 3070 ti.
>>542819285This is all solved when China fully catches up with their chip manufacturing. Contrary to mutt cope, they absolutely will in the next decade. Then you will watch shitvidia and advance mutt dumbasses seethe and writhe in pain as they actually have competition and can't do meme forced scarcity sales models. Plus the data center and credit bubble will burst.
>>542812624>I'm a shitty programmer that can't program that gets fleeced by AI companies to sell me a product that barely lets me program if I spend a bunch of money>this means that datacenters are actually economically efficient and we need more
>>542808114Compuse wise the bulk of it is going to agents doing coding tasks for developers.They code better than entry to mid level software devs now, and if you have someone who knows the code using it is might as well be a replacement for a team of 5.Just the sad reality for software devs. But hey, at least the barrier dropped so now I can finally use my degree's knowledge doing something that doesn't feel like pulling teeth. Looking up syntax for 50% of my day was bullshit.
>>542805068you can still get a 5080 or 5070. 5090 is unnecessary.
>>542805945Kek and I thought my 6800 XT was old.
>>542805068you don't anything more than a 3060 12gb
>>542807581IRL has raytracing at 1,000 fps but also it’s filled with violent NPCs.
>>542805068Invent a super AI model that doesn't require much of computing
>>542820559Not being able to quickload an autosave is a real bummer
>>542820559Unlimited sidequests though
>>542820559My save got corrupted, I'm softlocked and can't progress because of the jew money printing and anti natalist woman bug.
>>542805068>the flagship product from the big business costs big money?>omg this is a big problem for my big gay desire oh no!kys leaftard
I hope the prices never come down and I'll stay a 5090chad for the years to come.
>>542805068Geforce RTX 3060 ventus 2x 12gb is still reasonable; I game on a 2k monitor at 180 fps
>>542805068never.Instead you'll be able to rent gpu computation time online. Only 19.99$ per month for a low end card, 49.99$ for mid performers and 99.99$ for high end cards!!!
>>542805068Around 2029maybe
>>542805068Right now. Memory and SSDs have gone up over 100%. Graphics cards haven't. If you need one they are cheap.No your 3rd party scalper is not a retail store.
>>542821853I got a 4090 for $2500 AUD.5090s were mid $5000 or so at launch. Some shitter models went into the high $4000s if I recall. Currently $8000 AUD.Not worth even the shitter models paying basically double for 15% gain or some shit. Nah.
>>542807643moores law apply to cpu not gpu you tech illiterate boyin 1 year Njewia will lose the ai contracts because usa companies bancrupcybut if they decrease the production then korea economy is fucked, they will have to pump out product to sell, and the only thing that will still sell is gaming hardwarethey will not be able to sell any ai chips because oversuply of used H200 ai chips from deconstructed ai centresand modern games are not worth your time anywaymy game of the year "TYR" could run on my old ex 2015 gtx970 pc ( have rx6600xt now)
>>542810257>>542809266I'm a poorfag and I'm mad because I can't fucking afford anything to do better local shit on. 8gb of vram and 32gb ddr4 is slow as fuck. I've been fucking with local AI since llama 1 with kobold and llama.cpp. Fucking around with stable diffusion and video generation on 8gb of vram is ass. Knowing every little bit of how agents work and comfyui workflows or which quants to use or loras means fuck all. Why do I have to help my friends getting paid 5x my salary on how AI shit works while they get to fuck around on their 5090s? It's bullshit. Knowing all this shit means nothing unless you're already a rich fag. I've had to wire up a vast ai GPU search to find cheap ass gpus to send comfyui workflows to from my frontend and just pay the .15 cents here and there. Already missed the train, shit sucks.
>>542820435What does [OPEN BOX] mean?That you might get a brick?
>>542820435for gaming a 5090 is useless really, /v/ fags will claim they need it for some BS game they never play and on full settings and some stupid fps. The real excuse is AI of course, but even then that is limited to local LLM models and not H3 video genning. These fags always claim they need the top card and yet never gen a single video worthy of needing it, you can gen on a 5060ti 16gb and produce gens better than what those fags could all because they lack imagination.
>>542822815cards have gone up but nowhere near what memory has. Even DDR4 is double what it was a year ago.
Why would you care, all new games are slop. If for whatever reason you are an adult and still play vidya, your current system can play a backlog of decades of games that aren't slop, for free. High prices are a blessing, people are forced to play old stuff and realize>Hey, older stuff is not slop and microtransactions
>>542823256yeh better off with image genning even tho H3 is possible. I got H3 to gen on a 20270 but it was pretty slow, I took the memory out of that PC and added it to my main PC so it now has 96gb of DDR4 ram with a 5060ti 16gb, so much better
>>542822278>you'll be able to rent gpu computation time online. Only 19.99$ per monthThis is already a thing, enshittification has already begun, it was $19.99 per month BUT they changed it to max 5 hours per month goy
>>542805068funny thing is that 99% of human compound work can be done with 80486s easily
>>542805068>5090You don't need it. This is only for rich fags that want to flex their rgb e-dick.
>>542805068>Graphics cardsNobody cares, we need RAM and Storage to come down again
>>542805068When people will stop shilling out money for the newest cards just to play slop.I'll continue to game with my dual SLI GTX 1080 Ti system and nobody will male me play other games than those that I've played for years and years atp. My gaming PC is the best gaming PC in the world and I will never give up on it for it hasn't given up on me, Amen.
>>542824019/thread
>>542823910You can't even build a budget PC with an old GPU because SSDs, hard drives, and RAM are all overpriced.>don't you have a PC alreadyYeah but my little brother doesn't and I can't guide him through the rite of passage of building his own PC and becoming a man, so he's stuck playing vidya on his gay nintendo switch that's going to make him gay. It's unironically a crisis.
>>542823256Maybe buy a dedicated NPU???
>>542805068either the IA bubble need to burst or when the Chinese create a alternative
>>542824241Well, too bad being a poorfag ig.You could just go at your local recycling center and buy some scrapped PC for cheap, salvage its parts and save up money that way idk. Would help your lil bro learn PCs too if you tag him along, it'd be pretty wholesome ngl.
>>542820194you forget that the chinaflu was full on globohomo.agenda 2030 nwo puke is going to be worldwide and they won't allow any alternatives, rivals or exceptions.money doesn't matter, only control and power does. money is the temporary means towards it and they print that money.
>>542820788all the same though, shitty generated dungeons.
>>542820931try reskilling mid-game as a tranny
>>542805068You have affordable gpus right now. Just stop falling for the marketing and thinking you need all those tensor cores to game. Raytracing is a dumb meme now just like physx was a stupid gay meme back when it shipped with borderlands 2 almost 15 years ago and made the game run like shit because you couldn't turn the stupid blood and slime globs 100% off. Turn off raytracing/don't play games that require raytracing on fulltime. You have an endless supply of fun games made before raytracing cancer entered the conversation. Also stop with the "I can't play this 3rd person narrative adventure shooter unless I'm fps locked at 240fps at a minimum of high settings" bullshit. You're not a CPMA pro. Get real.
>>542805068when people stop supporting kike nonsense
>>542820194this
>>542824443no you don't, even a fucking 5080 is priced as high as 4090 used to coast 4 years ago with a higher compute power and vram, we are going backward in terms of compute/dollar
>>542824161prices will never come down now. the best you might see is a temporary price freeze before the next hike.
>>542824583I read an article that said they're coming down mid-late 2027 and I prefer to believe that as it sounds more appealing.
>>542824575You don't need a goddamn 5080 to game with you stupid casual. Do you even play games or do you just jack off to the ultra settings benchmark scores all night?
>>542824624nah unless the IA bubble burst, or you would need to wait until there is a Chinese alternative which wont come until at least 2030 if not later
>>542824636by the same logic it would be okay if they sold you a rtx 1080 1000 dollars today since it technically can still run games at 480p resolution like we used to play back in the ps1 era, guess what when progress reverse and you have to pay more for a worse product its bad, really bad
>>542807721kek
>>542805068you will own nothing, goy. but you will be happy.
>>542824636also yes some games do require a 5080 at least if you want to run them at a decent frame rate and good resolution, which is the least you would expect when it coast at least 3k to build a new rig this days
>>542805068once the jewish lie of trickle down economics implodes and goyim gain a couple more iq points
>>542807528$40 cooler in a $2000 pc
>>542824861the funny thing is even if this happens, it wont solve shit in terms of coast but just be a bait and switch similar to Netflix, and by the end of it when you will have no barging power they will massively hike the prices and it would coast you far more while not even owning the product and being forced into their own ico system with all it restriction
>>542809167>you're retarded if you buy now and you're retarded if you waited.this. just travel back in time.
>>542824922Just because it's cheap doesn't mean it bad you fucking retard. My noctua tower cpu cooler (non fluid) that was 55 usd outperforms fluid coolers in the 350 usd range. you are the epitome of retarded, I bet you use your mom's credit card to buy stuff, use your fucking brain.
>>542824772Nobody's selling 1080s for $1000 dumbass.>>542824849>also yes some games do require a 5080Name one. Blackmyth doesn't. Star Citizen doesn't. And those are two of the most notorious games for having high system requirements. What games out there require a 5080 to play retard.
is mid range still priced normally? im out of the loop. i have a 3060 i got during the meme lockdowns. im a little short on ram but it’s DDR4, that’s still cheap enough right?
>>542825245just literally wait 2 years
>>542825141black myth a 3 years old game at ultra at 4K (not native but with dlss) runs less the 60fps with 5080https://youtu.be/UlpfTEpJl6w?t=683so shut the fuck up and stop lying>Nobody's selling 1080s for $1000 dumbassthat's called a thought experiment and proof by the absurd, its basically pushing your logic to the extreme to demonstrate it irrationality
>>542824983>as a goy i don't need to own a gayming PC. i will simply rent one from billionaires>as a goy i don't need a house. i will simply rent a cuckpod owned by billionaires>as a goy i don't need savings. i will simply give my money to the EU to invest it for meeveryone just keeps voting for it
>>542825399the dumb submissive cattle get what they deserve, if there where any good in them they would have put the heads of their elites on spikes a long time ago
>>542805068I thought China will save us bros
>>542824983This
>>542805068My graphics card is from 2020. Since game graphics haven't actually improved since then, I see no reason to upgrade.
>>542824922>he got tricked by jewish marketingUnless you're a dumbfuck buying intel for gaming post covid there is no compelling reason to spend more than $100 on any sort of cpu cooling. The big boy ryzens are only rated at like 100w tdp and you're going to end up UVing them anyway which is going to bring the ceiling down even more. Water cooling is an even bigger scam today than it was back in the 90s and 2000s. At least back then you could make a decent claim that manufacturing for on cpu air heatsink hardware wasn't very good. With the current advancements the only reason you'd ever go AIO or custom loop is if you've got money to burn and want your build to be the centerpiece of your room.>>542825245DDR4 ram generally is. Checking my receipts it's looking like its around 30% more expensive now than it was before covid.>>542825395>black myth a 3 years old game at ultra at 4K (not native but with dlss) runs less the 60fps with 5080If that's old then find me a better one dumbfuck. There's a reason I brought it and Star Citizen up.>ultra (meaning raytracing maxed)>4kYeah no shit an extremely unoptimized game that is notorious for hammering GPUs in its most taxing configuration is going to hammer GPUs. What exactly do you think you're proving here?
>>542825485they will but you would need to wait 5-10 years for them to catch up in terms of ships making and for them to designe gpu/cpu/ram alternative
>>542825613>Yeah no shit an extremely unoptimized game that is notorious for hammering GPUs in its most taxing configuration is going to hammer GPUs. What exactly do you think you're proving here?its not 4k you dumb ass, its using dlss performance meaning its running the game at 1080p, and guess what if you build a pc that coast 4000 dollars and have 4k monitor you would expect to be able to run a 3 years old game maxed out at 1080p at above 60 fps in fucking 2026, this was the standard in fucking 2014, when a top of the line build would only coast you 1000 dollars
>>542825786>running any game at 4k nativeYou don't even know why everyone thinks you're retarded.
>>542825614>>542825485wide spread cheap Chinese ram alternative will come the soonest maybe as soon as 2030
>>542825821its not 4k you dumb ass, do you even know what dlss is
>>542825881What part of "what game can't you play without a 5080 other than (notoriously unoptimized raytracing nightmare) and (notoriously unoptimized insanely complex space sim)" don't you understand?
>>542825821also yes it 2026 it normal to expect 4k as the standard resolution for top of the line products, or do you expect us to stay stuck at 1080p for another 20 years and expect no progress
>>542825943it was you who said that they don't even require it to run you dumbass shill, so i used your own examples to show that even 5080 is not enough, and there is many many other examples
Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX reporting in. Built a new computer for less than 2000 bucks just as AI data centres popped up because I figured shit would get expensive, and went for this specific GPU because gigamodded Skyrim is a VRAM enjoyer. RAM and GPU prices would've made my current build over twice as expensive, I believe.
>>542825997>it was you who said that they don't even require it to run you dumbass shillThey don't. You can run that shit with much lower hardware even at 4k with upscaling just as long as you turn off raytracing. As I said before. If I'm remembering correctly you can get over 100fps with the 5080 at 4k ultra with dlss and ray tracing off. But again I'm still pulling fucking teeth trying to get you to list another game a 5080 won't handle because, somewhat like the original crysis, blackmyth is an unoptimized outlier and doesn't represent the average modern game. What else is out there justifying a 5080/5090? No more deflecting.
>>542807707That and emulators. Something like a GTX 1660 is all you need for modern APIs/extensions.https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Computer_specifications#Demand_Levels
>>542826194dlss is not native 4k you retard and it is not equivalent to it and using it especially at lower settings introduces artifacts and ghosting, and if ray tracing is feature that should be ignored then why the fuck does NVidia kept shilling for it for 8 years as if it was the ne revolutionary hot thing to sell us their trash and are we to never expect to be able to actually max out our games , and if you want other examples stalker 2 and star wars zero company and cyberpunk are some other examples that come to mind that cant be maxed out by 5080
>>542826122Fuck it, I might as well wank.>AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor>64 GB RAM>Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X>Buncha fans and muh PSU
>>542810565"The Internet just doesn't go that fast" YET junior why do think they're dumping WW3 levels of money and resources on shit like city sized data centers and quantum computing
>>542826407>then why the fuck does NVidia kept shilling for it for 8 yearsFor the same goddamn reason they did it with physx during their exclusivity period back in the early 2010s despite it objectively making that era of gaming look shittier and perform way worse. It's a way to shore up marketshare and lock gamers into their ecosystem because the alternative is being locked out of entire swathes of games that use the tech that run like fucking shit without the dedicated processing hardware. In both cases it doesn't even make the game look any better than games in the past have with prebaked lighting tricks to accomplish the same fucking thing, just without being able to say they're doing pathtracing in real time to actually simulate it. It's a jewish marketing trick and you're falling for it hook line and sinker.>and if you want other examples stalker 2 and star wars zero company and cyberpunk are some other examples that come to mind that cant be maxed out by 5080>stalker game runs like hot dogshitYeah what a shock>xcom game with a paintjob is an unoptimized messWow>cyberpunkFor fuck's sake how many times do I have to tell you to turn off raytracing?
>>542826640you used to be able to max out games even with physx with top of the line og gpus, and if NVidia wanted to scam us with the raytracing snake oil to hype their shit, then they need to be judged by it as the new standard that they them self introduced, if they didn't want their overpriced trash cards to be judged by it then they shouldn't have had shilled for it in the first place, fuck Janson Huang you scamming yellow chink>For fuck's sake how many times do I have to tell you to turn off raytracing?no i wont stop, nvdia made their bed now they will lay on it
>>542805068after we enter a post-scarcity society and robots do all the work creating them.
>>542826850>you used to be able to max out games even with physx with top of the line og gpus,Yeah at 720p or 1080p at 60fps. Now everybody expects 4k at 240 minimum. And they're all nearsighted anyway and can barely resolve detail at 1440 let alone 4k. Also the titan went for a fucking thousand dollars back then and I'm pretty sure the nvidia equivalent wasn't far behind. And that's in 2012 or whatever dollars.>no i wont stop, nvdia made their bed now they will lay on it>I'm going to argue with people and pretend gaming isn't feasible without tier1 and tier2 nvidia gpus because that's what nvidia told me, but ironicallyIronic shillposting is still shillposting dumbfuck.
>>542826588Bandwidth is not the same as latency.The ultimate limit is physical distance, and no amount of data centers or infrastructure can change physics.
>>542827019>eah at 720p or 1080p at 60fps. Now everybody expects 4k at 240 minimum."4k" with dlss performance is 1080p and its 16 years later of course the standards are higher, back in 2000 480p was the standard but things progressed>titan went for a fucking thousand dollars back then and I'm pretty sure the nvidia equivalent wasn't far behind980ti and gtx 780ti came out at around 600 dollars and where as cheap as 400 few months later, you where able to build a top of the line build with a 1000 dollars>ironic shillposting is still shillposting dumbfuckno its not ironic shitpositng it judging NVidia by the standards they set and benefited from and not allowing them to only reap the benefits and get away with it
>>542827435>no its not ironic shitpositng it judging NVidia by the standards they set and benefited from and not allowing them to only reap the benefits and get away with itIt's shillposting because I had to slap your shit around for over a half hour to get you to admit you didn't actually believe you needed a 5080 to play modern games, you were just acting like it to prove a point because you had a bone to pick with their business strategy. We don't even disagree on that point ultimately, you're just being a dumbass about it.
>>542827435>>542827019also the performance between a 980ti/780ti and their generation titans was nothing, so there where 0 real reason for gamers to buy them and where mainly from productivity, today 5090 is massively more powerful then 5080
>>542827551you can even game with 980 if you lower your standards enough, but it don't change the fact that shit is only getting worse and worse with far higher prices for lower if not negative returns
>>542814565That anon is a retard.What you actually do is buy a card on ebay, when the delivery driver gets there put a fake signature down, claim it never came to your house and then demand a refund.>that won't workIt will because the cucks at ebay always side with buyers over sellers on this.
>>542805068After the market crashes
>>542827921So never?
>>542805068Thats the best part>
>>542805068Hopefully never.They're a crutch for shit developers.
>>542807638NTA but "RTX 6000" is an AI card with 96GB of VRAM, it's actually called RTX Pro 6000. It was released back in 2025. Costs about 15-20k USD.
>>542805068Never. 2025 was your last chance. Good thing I grabbed 9800x3d, 5070ti and 8tb of SSDs back then. With how expensive everything is now devs are forced to optimise their shit again so it's going to last at least 6 years.
