video: https://x.com/Poeslawisalive/status/2100625746649886825
he's right thoughever
Remember in 2016 when Trump would say dumb shit and then everybody would say it’s 4D chess? Turns out he’s just retarded
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>>542820257Do you reckon this applies to all imported goods?
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>>542820257Yeah in the sense that those 2 billion dollars could be spent on the local economy instead, were there that many bananas to buy.
>>542820349AVTARKY GOOD RETVRN TO NORTH KOREA
>>542820138Where is he wrong
>>542820138There's scarcity of bananas in the banana republic
>>542820321>>542820393He didn't do anything, so he could say all the stupid shit he wanted. That was the trick.
>export $2 billion to buy bananas>that money is re-invested in US bonds >government goes deeper into debtHe's right
>>542820475Where can I get these free bananas?
>>542820138he is not retarded. this is the same kind of rhetoric that Bush had. "muh nucular". they know very well what they are doing because they know their audience very well. that's what a good politician does, transform themselves into something their voters can easily identify with.which is to say, that is not how stupid your president is, it is how stupid the burger voters are. sad but true. the miga golem meme is real
>>542820138Makes sense.You're giving 2 bil to Brazil for nanners. If you buy nothing you'll have 2 bil to spend on American shit.Pretty easy. I'm not sure why OP doesn't get it.Perhaps he was told this isn't true as a hypothetical?
>>542820475>Where is he wrongTrade created so the Nations can enjoy the goods that other Nations produce. The plurality of products is a status of well being and wealth.If you eat crap all the time, your life expectancy will not only reduce, but you will also become less productive.This zionazi dog clearly wants to turn the US into a third world hellhole.
>>542820138I'm sure americans would just love those dollars staying inside US economy while actual goods get scarcer in comparison
america is a cesspool of genetic filth
>>542820328>I absolutely must have my heckin’ bananarinos
Even 1 billion dollars for 1 banana from Brazil in space race money. 2 billion dollars for 2 bananas is space race Money.
>>542820138Honestly, we could easily feed all Americans with the food we produce here, especially if we give all the fatties their GLP1 drugs so they eat 1/3rd as much. All the money used to buy foreign food can be spent within the country.
>>542820728>true patriots don't need fancy pants bananas give me American made cricket flakes any day
>>542820639>Perhaps he was told this isn't true as a hypothetical?Sub 90 IQs can't into conditional hypotheticals.
>>542820726>jeet colony calling america genetic filthand good morning to you saar
>>542820138We’ll prove him wrong?Sure, it’s retarded in a way that you’re depriving yourself of a good, but you’re indeed saving money.>save $25,000>want to buy a new car for $25,000>fight the urge and don’t>bank account balance: $25,000Also, I’m sure the US can grow bananas themselves
>>542820820du wirst es nicht verstehen, aber die Amerikaner sind einfach weltweit ein verhasstes pack voller dementer kernbehinderter hurensöhne
>>542820888>never buy anything>money in bank>win?but you're not enjoying driving a car. you're not enjoying the fruits of your labor. the bananas of your labor if you will. it's...retarded. why even live?
>>542820888Why buy car when neighbors mercedes can be had for free?
Trumpha discovers ascetism.
>>542820138He's right you know.
>>542820138Does this nigga not understand the concept of buying stuff? You lose money but you get the goods in exchange.
>>542820349the question is why when you have a country as large as the US with a wide array of growing practices and climates are you buying shit from nigger countries? this shit went out with the British Empire. Oh and if you really want to buy bananas from Brazil or Ecuador etc then make sure you get a good deal instead of doing the fair trade shit.
>>542820475He's wrong because the dollar is the world reserve currency (for now) so when you do this, effectively more than 2 billion dollars flows back into the US via US treasury and bond sales
>>542820609>I need free bananas in order to not spend as much.
>>542820138Based.
>>542820321it was all 4d chess. all of it. the games still on. some of the players are dead. trump intended for that to happen. trust
>>542820138Or we could just stop exporting food to the rest of the world. You probably need to go on a diet.
>>542821112so you hand over cash no matter the price?
>>542820138>video: https://x.com/Poeslawisalive/status/2100625746649886825retard, this is not the videothis is it https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2100625621730885639/vid/avc1/1168x696/1CMhqTdyskWAoXbU.mp4
>>542820349Anything you pay for. You lose the money while gaining something else.
>>542820728And they don't need whatever ameridog are selling there, but both of them benefit from trading, that's the whole point
I bet it's fun to be that retarded. It sucks being just aware enough where you feel a sense of shame, he's blown way past that though and it's probably a blast.
>>542820820>america>calling anyone else a jeet colonyYou have more jeets in Texas than Canada and the entirety of Europe combined.
>>542821503He’s an Ivy League business graduate. Tell me, which school did you go to again?
>>542820257Money is useless if there’s no commodities to buy retards
>>542821271>we'll just grow our own bananasHoly shit trump is a genius >>542821446>gaining something else like 2b worh of bananas for example?
>>542820138The honest American banana farmers will suffer
>>542820138>not wronghe's not wrong though
>>542821816>>we'll just grow our own bananas>Holy shit trump is a geniusThe density of non sequiturs in this thread is remarkable. But bananas are grown in the US.>like 2b worh of bananas for example?Right. That was the example Trump gave in OP's quote.
Americans being forced to only consume American goods and entertainment would be a fitting punishment desu.
>>542820138Absolutely true. Everyone say THANK YOU to President Trump for mortifying muh Economy, and making both Smith faggots and Marx faggots cry in unison and suck each other's dicks.
>>542821981The notion that one can save money by not spending it seems to be pretty rare in modern political fights about government debt.
>>542821568USA, stop everything! Your all-wise, Ivy league graduate lord and leader has ordered you with in his shining wisdom to... grow bananas!>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>542820138>Trump slowly turning into Greta Thurnberg without realizing itLMAOOOO
>>542821954Right but if you've got 2b worth of bananas how are you losing money? Do you think money is a real thing?
>>542821112Now imagine if the goods came from within your own country. You keep the $2billion and still have the bananas. Imports are always a loss. Especially for food where the goods dissapear. It isnt rare earth metals that can be recycled, the bannanas litteraly rot in landfills or turn into shit
>>542822035He's going to send them to Putin.
>>542820349Absolutely. International trade is a sickness. America spends money on another Country's "goods">every dollar that is given to another Country is a dollar NOT given to America>the more this happens, the more dollars will HAVE to be given to other gay Countries. International trade is LITERALLY "prep" to abate dying of self-imposed AIDS.
>>542820328I almost wish I wasn't old enough to remember a time when people had the vision build fully automated banascrapers instead of complaining about tariffs.
>>542822090What if its more expensive to produce a certain food due to something like climate?
>>542822230What if it's more expensive to run internal combustion engines instead of using horses because nobody knows how to extract oil out of the ground at scale yet?
>>542822193>if you can't produce it you can't have it Kek im all for this. Problem is we dont produce anything. Not that we can't. And its not because we were just waiting for a fat retard to bring up bananas
>>542822299Then your nanners will cost $50 a bunch until you figure it out. Im sure trump is on the case to maximize banana harvesting efficiency so don't worry
>>542820448yes it's good and necessary at this moment and timethe only reason all this global trade was possible in the first place was pax americana.if they don't/can't keep it anymore, it means the rule-based global order is over and countries that rely on peace and protected global trade lines for their subsistence will suffer.
>>542822230Third world countries and even japan are parasitic on the production of america and parts of europe because simpleton niggers like you are incapable of absrract thoughtYou think of only balance of payment for products but what happens is imbalance of INVRSTMENT PAYMENTSWhen america has a trade deficit america becomes less capable of investing in foreign countries and buying their assets, thereby controlling those counteiesWhy do you think chinese unilaterally pour investments into america but forbid americans from invetsing in china you absolute niggerKill yourself. Trade imbalances are reverse colonizationDeath to all niggers. Death to all kikes. Heil hitler
>>542820138>banan
>>542822230You are correct. We could not produce 2billion of bananas within our nation for the pennies they currently cost. Which is why ultimately we should only consume locally grown foods, and stop importing.
Can somebody who isn't retarded explain how this is bad? He's saying it's not worth trading with Brazil. They only have bananas.
>>542820438but i like bananas splits
>>542820475trade deficit means you import more than you export. hes wrong on everything because he literally doesnt understand the definition of the word
>>542821522There's 5x more Jeets in Canada than Texas and you only have 30% more people than Texas. It's always the countries in 100x worse situation than America that gloat and make up shit about their own situation. You didn't realize you were also goy cattle too, but in an even more cucked and dire situation? How fucking retarded are you?
>>542821954>bananas are grown in the US.How fucked are you on a scale of>all the plants are clones to a diverse ecosystem prevents plant diseaseI'm guessing full clone.
>>542822408Take it easy Hitler san. China produces things. We don't produce shit. What has trump taken steps toward producing? Or is he just saying shit to appeal to morons?
>>542822335>Problem is we dont produce anythingexactly, and solving this problem in america means setting tariffs, import/export controls, industry subsidies, infrastructure investment... everything trump's been doing so far.
>>542822490woah, we should not trade with losers overseas, big onethat foreign plantations undercut all the people in our country to destroy us
>>542820639>"Do not, yearn the bananas people, okay. Wanting is the source of all evil in this world, or so I'm told. Let go of your wants so we can make america great again."
>>542822490>we should produce everything we consume>well yeah we shipped most of our production overseas but bananas is the last strawKek im never forgiving you dumb fucking maga faggots
free market, freedom of trade and competence btw
>>542822514Well now you're going to eat pumpkin split
>>542822595>yeah things cost more now but in 2 weeks it wontWhat production has he moved here from elsewhere? You're missing half the puzzle pieces you fuck. You cant just tarrif and not produce then you just dont fucking have the thing lmao
>>542822490Ok then go do that. I already am. You are a faggot if your diet isn't 100% from your nearest ranchers. Worth it just for the taste alone.
>>542820328A leg I cannot control is a pointless burden.
>>542820321he's just getting old
>>542820138He's a genius, stop laughing tranny, you wouldn't get it.
>>542820138but why would you not buy my bananas?
>>542822752>What production has he moved here from elsewhere?why do you talk life if the US is a centrally planned economy? you're a fucking retard.anyway, the answer is plenty of it. steel production is being modernized to compete with foreign steel, chip production and packaging is about to start in arizona, there's a huge drive to establish rare earth mining and processing in american soil...it's a problem that formed over decades and will take decades to undo, but so far the progress has been quick.
>>542822661Last straw? Damn you are retarded. Trump is an Israeli owned bitch but he happens to be correct that importing food is always a net loss. >>542822790Yup. I grow my own food. I feed my dogs a raw diet so I grow meat rabbits and my wife manages our vegetable garden. My FIL has bees so we get honey from him. Berries we pick from nature as they come into season (mainly black raspberries and mullberies localy, some concord grapes around too). The only thing we are buying from the store right now is cooking oil and that will be solved when we finalize buying a plot of land to build our permanent home on. I will grow a massive sunflower crop and harvest them and cold press the seeds for sunflower oil. Will also use the seeds as feed for some pigs and chicken too (alongside other items, ideally the property will have oak trees for the acorns, for example).
>>542820138Does the american federal state who buy the bananas from Brazil and give it out to the shops for free? Motherfucker has dementia and forgot his fucking alma matter.
>>542822933do you grow bananas too?
>bussing in the VPN shillsTell Mr. Manager that you have bigger fish to fry. Random posters aren't the ones raping you desu.
>>542822933How is it a net loss if its cheaper to import dipshit?>just dont trade bro you dont need bananasYoure a fucking moron
>>542822908>2 weeksAnd if its not centrally planned who gives a shit what he says? The fuck is he going to do about it? Talk while retards listen? The answer is yes
>>542822933sane poster that understands the world, congratulations on self-sufficiency and don't let too many people know.
>>542823077just drive less and eat le bugs
>>542822085>how are you losing money?$2 billion spent to buy the $2 billion worth of bananas. The person who sold you the bananas has that money now.>Do you think money is a real thing?Ideas are real, especially when societies organize themselves to make use of them. Records about accounts and transactions are real. Physical currency is real in a more tangible sense.
>>542823134Im not doing any of that. Trumpanzees dont seem to understand that so they keep saying progressively more retarded things
>>542820138you lost tranny
>>542820138The point of importing bananas from us that we do the wageslave farmer work to free up you guys to do your fancy management and R&D work, but I guess if you import infinity indians you can have enough browns in America to perform both the proletariat and bourgeoisie jobs.
Or even better maybe United America should produce something worthwhile instead of strangling it's population out of goods but it would require planning and investments beyond fucking sucking jewish dicks and praying that maybe one of his oligarch friend starts a business.
>>542823139And what good is that money if they dont spend it? Swim in it like scrooge mcduck? You fucking idiot
>>542823139and you have the bananas you wanted for the price you wantedthen you retards call everyone communists?
>>542820138those 2b of Bananas will sell for 6b to the niggers of US and make the rich richer and the niggers happy and contentand yeah Trump is retarded as fuck
>>542822335>Problem is we dont produce anything.#1 oil producer. #2 manufacturer. Trillions of dollars worth of things are produced in the US each year.
>>542823245So why import at all? Cuz Joe Biden?
>>542823116why does what you quote never have any relation to what i say? i said decades.it was never about making things cheaper in the shelves, it wasn't even about bringing jobs back to america. it's all to stop china from achieving their goals.arguing against autarky = collaborationism with the invader. not now of course because it's still technically peacetime but you will see it soon enough.
>>542822563>I'm guessing full clone.They're mostly Cavendish because that's the most popular, but there are other varieties.
>>542823176We have to stop eating bananas for the economy. We all lost
>>542823245>oilso why is gas so expensive?>oh well uh you see cuz refinement and im a fucking faggotDon't worry I actually want whats happening as much as you do
>>542823328what are china's goals mr cia spook?
>>542820475>Citizens choose to spend THEIR money on goods that can't be made here>Trump says WE lost moneyThe government isn't buying bananas, people are. Trump is a communist.
>>542823009Trump is describing what happens in international trade. If a company in the US buys bananas from Brazil for US Dollars, US Dollars move from the US company to Brazil. There are fewer US Dollars in the US and more in Brazil than before the banana purchase.
>>542823328Because I don't give a shit about your risk game wherein you're the supreme armchair general I care about things being expensive >2 WEEKS
>>542820138I don't understand the US, they have it so good they deliberately isolate and destroy their influence around the world... For what? What are you suffering from?
>>542823435Doesn't money moving out of the country stops it from inflating?
>>542823431he wants more taxes for the big ol gummit
>>542820138>we can save 2 billion dollars by giving it all to israelsimple economics
>>542820138Mate nobody can see or cares about your x cancer garbage.
>>542823435Here's an idea. Sell the bananas for more than it would cost you to produce them. And get paid in us dollars.
>>542820475You retards never studied econ 101. >What is competitive advantage >What is opportunity cost
>>542823207>And what good is that money if they dont spend it?It could be spent on other things. If it's spent in the local economy, it will continue to circulate there and benefit the local economy.>>542823211>and you have the bananas you wanted for the price you wantedRight. And you don't have the money you gave up in trade to get those bananas. Trump is correct in saying that such a purchase results in the loss of money.
>>542823463>For what?jews
>>542820726I concur. America is now violently trashing down retard, shitting and screaming and crying for the world to look at it being #1. Fucking pathetic dysgenic scum.
>>542823510>Right. And you don't have the money you gave up in trade to get those bananas. Trump is correct in saying that such a purchase results in the loss of money.>just drive less and eat ze bugs bro and buy my maga merchandise (made in china) instead
>>542823449>Because I don't give a shit about your risk gameyou can care or not care. you're still a pawn, unless you took steps to avoid it. you're complaining about things being expensive, so obviously, you're still a pawn.unironically, all you can do now is "trust the plan" and hope you're not a sacrifice piece. just don't forget what side of the board you're on.
>>542823463Jews
>>542823510What do you mean local economy? Do you think a single Jesus butt fucking christ piece of clothing youre wearing isnt imported and sold under a "local" brand?
>>542823656>spooky You're a fucking queer and youre a glownigger at best and a larping faggot more likely
>>542823310>So why import at all?Other countries produce some things cheaper. Even if the US has an absolute advantage in producing a widget, another country may have a comparative advantage due to other economic factors making it relatively more productive for them to make widgets. The US focuses more on things that are too difficult to ship around (e.g. construction materials to be used locally) and high-value things that are at a comparative advantage in the US economy, like pharmaceuticals. The US exports about $120 billion worth of pharmaceuticals each year. >>542823392>so why is gas so expensive?Because it's relatively easy to ship around the world relative to its value, meaning that the entire planet is in a bidding war for it when the supply is restricted relative to what people want to use. Taxes are also a major part of gas prices in most places.
>>542823423why ask me if you think i'm a cia spook? you can read the chinese version of the beijing daily or whatever.but in a nutshell it's the only country that's not happy in principle with the current global order and has the power to change it.
Can't tell if the muttoids are this stupid or just shitposting
>>542820138you gonna pay for it
>>542820138US was built by some of the most intelligent and economically educated people of its day
>>542820138whoever ends up holding physical goods in their hands definitely won out over whoever now holds fiat in their hands, kek
>>542820138You know the simple answer that USA as a whole, not all americans because e do believe there is good people in USA like every place basically...The real problem is simple and lets keep it about bananas.If USA stop buying bananas from us, China and Russia would gladly buy everything. By the time we speak, we are the first comercial partner from China.And that is going for a quite long now.15 years or so.Before was USA. They are not anymore.And that, that is the whole point.USA have a important role in the world?Sure. Like China. Like Russia. Like Iran for example now as we can see. And many others. England, France, Itally, Canada and much others...USA have the cultivate in his mind that he owns the world or is the leader or idk, is the boss or something. It was a ilusion all along. What is happening now is that ilusion is just being broken. Simple as.So sure. Dont buy our stuff. We will still gonna sell and be in relation with the rest and you can pretty much Go Fuck Yourselfs.Is that simple.
>>542823478It would counter inflation, but $2 billion would be a drop in the modern bucket. The mercantile meme of export good, import bad relates to this, since back in the days before fiat currency, deflation was a much greater risk than inflation, and the money supply being physically restricted meant that a lack of money inhibited what might have been useful developments.>>542823506That's what Brazil is doing in this scenario.
>>542823776>everything is more expensive cuz things and taxes that the rich dont pay now shut up and bend overYeah I dont actually give a fuck about your economics degree
>>542823762>ur gay and also ur gayi accept your concession.
>>542822418>it's circumcised kek
>>542823811A thought leader mutt who is currently hiding in Europe earnestly repeats a 'We are winning the Iran War' argument centered on an idea that Trump is purposefully losing so that 'Globalists' and 'Silicon Valley' lose and then young American white patriots will profit (how this profit occurs is not explained of course.)
>>542823916Kek youre going to create a black market for contrabandanas so rich people can buy another yacht. Unfuckingreal
>>542823945The 'Online West' in general has proven itself to be completely fruitless in terms of ability, intelligence, etc. Otherwise there would at least be 3-4 interesting works of fiction at the least, as well as some young companies of, and I hate to use the word because it's very twisted by these same people, - 'merit.'
>>542823930Kek what debate was there glowfag? >Ooga booga China you've no agency. In-fucking correct
>>542823643Do you... not understand how buying things works?>>542823707>What do you mean local economy?In this context, the jurisdictions that use US Dollars as legal tender. As opposed to Brazil, which does not. If the money goes to Brazil, it won't go to someone who uses Dollars to pay for daily expenses. Instead, the banana seller will trade the Dollars back to Brazilian Reals, and the money-exchanger will trade the Dollars to people looking to go to the US or do business with the US, or do other things with US Dollars. Most of it will eventually make its way back the US, but it will take a lot longer to circulate around.
>>542824112Money isnt real. The govement prints it. What matters is the health and happiness of the population to create a productive society. You and your economics degree are going to need to learn that the hard way
ITS FUCKING INSANE TO THINK THAT:If USA start to behave in a more humble way, tries to adopt a more friendly policy and politics with the rest of the world instead of this schizophrenic narscisitic behaviour conception of "I'm the Big T-Rex i need to show i'm evil and bad because you know, the world is like this." or/and "WIIIIINEEEEEEEEEERRR", they would most likely, reposition themselfs on the top again and hold for long instead of this disgusting downspiral of every day shame ritual.Its insane to me how they cant grasp reality.That there is darkness, yes. But there is light.
>>542823861Would you give me a thousand Euros for one genuine American hamburger? Euros are fiat, recall.>>542823920>cuz thingsWell yes. There are actual reasons for why things cost some amount of money and not some other amount.
A dollar spent on bananas is a dollar not being given to Israel you dirty fucking goys.
>>542820138he is correct, but 2billion dollars of bananas at retail is really 600million dollars of bananas at the border. so he is losing 1.4billion dollars of spending.
>>542824112Like lets say people like bananas. Lots of people. Bananas make them happy. But they might cost a few extra fun bucks and you need all of those to show on a screen so you stop letting people bananas. People get sad face people, people mad because banana used to be cheap now banana not. People protest. People strike. Economy degree guys hire thugs in uniform to make sad face people work. All people wanted was banana. But funbux more important. This is what you chose
>>542824332kek
>>542823977Black markets come about when there are legal restrictions on producing (or producing cheap) goods or services, as by evading a tax or making something outright illegal. There's a black market for maple syrup because there's a legal mess with it. In the banana scenario, why would there be a black market? There's no restriction on buying from whoever anyone wants.
$2b worth of bananas is a lot of bananas for everyone to enjoy. It's far better to have than $2b worth of IOU papers printed by Jewish bank (haha the goy actually thinks his Jewish masters will let him redeem those).
USA destroys itself like a psychopath always fails for being retarded and get caught or something.Like evil being literally being ultimately their own demise no matter how long it keep going or pushing.It so unnecesary. Such a beautifil country.A place with so many inventions, so admirable in the 80's and 90's.What a fucking desfigured thing it has become.
>>542824354That anon is clearlt a chink or kike arguing in bad faith
>>542824189>Money isnt real.What do you mean by "real" such that a coin made from precious metal is not real? It is a physical object you can interact with. What do you mean by "real" such that an account of a transaction is not real?>The govement prints it.Fiat money does not have value as a physical commodity, or represent a claim on such a commodity, but that doesn't mean it's not real. You can see and feel the currency, right? So can other people. If someone believes that it has value, they may be willing to accept it in exchange for goods or services.
>>542820138How the fuck does someone elect this as the president of a country?
>>542820321It is 7d chess now. He ruins israel and US hegemony in western Asia ("middle east"). This is good for white men.Also economic problems are good for white men. Because niggers can not breed when economic hardships are rampant.The worse it is the better for wypipo. Trust the plan!
>>542820138he secretly wants all the bananas for himself
Why would Brazil share banan?
>>542824354Should I have said secondary market? What happens when you outlaw Jorges banana stand?
>>542824491Its simple.He is an infiltrated agent serving something that its not clear for us.So he is destroying the country on purpose, destroying the idea of an outsider and TRYING to assiciate all of that with the Right Wing.The last one have failed already.
>>542824347And how does that make you feel?>>542824475Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?
>>542820138>mutts>eating bananasSure, OP
>>542824491The Dems ran Kamela Harris.
>>542824488Money is a representation of real things. What are you going to do with your metal coins? Melt them down and make jewelry for you boyfriend? Or are you going to buy something useful? My guess is sooner rather than later youll find out how useless your funbux really are
>>542820475try planting a banana tree in your backyard and installing a water tank to water it, mr freeman
nigga is literally going "I have a trade deficit with my grocery store" LMAOOO
>>542824597Makes me feel just fine. It ebbs and flows. The people with economics degrees get too greedy labor fights back. They get some rights rinse and repeat.
and that clown is the best they could find for the job in the oral office>horry shit burgers, you screwed!
Basically im not eating the bugs and youll get my banana when you pry it out of my cold dead hands
>>542820475Because you are assuming you are not getting 2 billion of value in items in return. The shops buy the banana's for 2 billion, the shops sell the banana's for 2 billion plus profit, returning the money to the US economy.Yes people can stop eating, filling up their car, and stop all the other things to save money. But that's not how a growing economy works. But also Trump>We are in a golden age, we have never been richer and have so much coming in due to tariffs.But now people need to stop eating bananas.
>>542820138is this a joke for mocking black people ?
>>542820138Trump supporters don’t eat fruit.
>>542824573>Should I have said secondary market?Depends on what meaning you intend. It's not clear from the conversation what you're talking about.>>542824639>Money is a representation of real things.It is also a real thing itself. A symbol is both a representation and a physical object. What makes money money is what it does. It is used in trade as a standard of exchange. It stores value which can be used later in trade to acquire other things. This value can be quantified, and units of money are fungible. The specifics of implementation depend on what kind of money is involved. Some of the first money was withdrawal claims from a communal granary. The paper (papyrus) claims represented the value of a physical commodity which was impractical to haul around for transactions. Later, people used small amounts of valuable coins as standardized units of value, and the money became valuable in itself due to what it was made of. But that has the drawback of tying up a lot of valuable material outside of the actual uses that make it valuable. So some money represents a claim on some amount of a valuable metal, similar to the older grain claims. But the use of money has been culturally normalized for millennia by now. The ability to claim some amount of a commodity doesn't come up much even if that's officially the case, since most people just use commodity money as money. Fiat money still acts as money, but it has some features that make it attractive to governments.>My guess is sooner rather than later youll find out how useless your funbux really areYou know that money can be exchanged for goods and services, right? How did you get the computer you're using to access 4chan?>>542824700It's generally not the people with economics degrees who set economic policy. Economics tells you how to move levers to get some result, not what the goals should be.
>>542824990Sure money is a storage of labor. If the labor doesn't afford you anything the money is worthless. By itself the money is good for wiping your ass with and thats about it. Just like your 401k when the value of your global currency tanks. You'll be setting it on fire to keep warm. So your definition of real is just semantic jibber jabber.
>>542825203>Sure money is a storage of labor.No, it isn't. It can be EXCHANGED for labor or the products of labor, which is not the same thing. A greenback doesn't contain a little mechanic who can be released to replace your brake lines, say.>By itself the money is good for wiping your ass with and thats about it.Money exists only within an economy. It is never by itself.>So your definition of real is just semantic jibber jabber."Real" in this context refers to something which exists objectively. Its existence can be observed independently of what any person things about it. >>542824488>What do you mean by "real" such that a coin made from precious metal is not real? It is a physical object you can interact with. What do you mean by "real" such that an account of a transaction is not real?
>>542823139The Jewish goblin that bought the bananas' just doubled the price to sell them to miga retards for 100% profit. Goyim need to deal in the real world.
>>542825436Incorrect. Money by itself is worthless. If nobody accepted your monopoly money you wouldn't be able to trade it for labor now would you? Conversely I can trade my labor for many things other than money. And real is subjective. Lets say for example you're a llm shillbot. You exist as prompts and binary data sets that sort of function like a brain but until prompted you dont really exist. And because you cant filter wrong information and synthesize it into right information, you dont actually do what a human brain does. You'll just keep repeating the same wrong information as truth which it will never be. So in that case id say you exist, but aren't real
>the same poster that a couple hours ago was insisting prices are the only thing that matters is now arguing money is not real
>>542825729>just doubled the priceBrazil still has bananas. Regular markets still work fine. Why would there be a black market? Why would anyone buy bananas at twice the market price?>>542825754>Money by itself is worthless.Worth is an extrinsic phenomenon. Nothing by itself has worth.>If nobody accepted your monopoly money you wouldn't be able to trade it for labor now would you?No. But we're talking about actual money, as traded in the real world to the tune of dozens of trillions of USD equivalent for labor each year.>Conversely I can trade my labor for many things other than money.Sure. That doesn't mean that money doesn't exist.>And real is subjective.Not according to definitions I've seen. Do you have one to propose? Would you share it with the class? Usually, a subjective perception of realness without objective realness is known as a delusion.>You exist as prompts and binary data sets that sort of function like a brain but until prompted you dont really exist.Self contradiction. You can't have>You exist as prompts and binary data setsand>but until prompted you dont really exist.at the same time.>you dont actually do what a human brain doesA rock doesn't do what a human brain does. That doesn't make it not real.>So in that case id say you exist, but aren't realDefine your terms. A definition is that which makes something distinct from other things so that the boundary can be clearly known. So far you're just handwaving without saying what you actually mean.
>>542820321yeah
I love how Americans truly think that's what the US imports the most from us. Let's make this scenario a little more visual
>>542822511About that...
>>542826654Whenever Trump says something, reading comprehension seems to drop a few grade levels.
>>542824519the gibs wont stop anytime soon
if we import 2 billion bananas in pajamas coming down the stairs then we have 2 billion bananas in pajamas coming down in pairs. that's 4 billion bananas!
This shit is bananasB-a-n-analsex with peak gwen stefani-n-a-s
>>542820138Kek this is some 1981 USSR shit, "Economics must me economic" (save money)
>>542820257Banish this nigger to the Mariana Trench
>>542820475This one, tooAnd this one >>542820639In fact fuck it, ban all participants of this shit thread
>>542820138It's a 100% true factually correct statement
>>542820138First of all, who even eats bananas? Are white people is negros? Secondly, what’s the point of this thread and why German poster laughing at? His country is literally getting poorer, while Trump is a billionaire. Obviously he knows way more about money than your entire government, buddy
>>542820328>TAX THE RICH!!!!!!>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>542822035>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>542820138from the book of economics of commie east germony
>>542821240>why when you have a country as large as the US with a wide array of growing practices and climates are you buying shit from nigger countriesBecause it is cheaper and land/manpower in the USA is limited.
>>542820475
>>542824927That's not how it works.You only care about the money lost with imports / exports and call it deficit if you import more than you export.
>>542820728Bananas are a very economical source of nutrition. It only benefits us to buy them.
>>542820138The govt gets a share of that 2billion through tax and tariff. The other country can also do basically nothing with USD besides buy American stuff, so it'll come back.In Victoria 3, you typically want to maximize how many goods you can buy and how much your citizens consume because it skyrockets the tax base and makes them happy.
>>542828580>Victoria 3is it any good. i bought it when it was on sale, but never bothered to even install it (i play CIV5 and EU4)
>>542820328My metal spine thinks your comic is retarded.
>>542826218>Brazil still has bananas. Regular markets still work fine. Why would there be a black market? Why would anyone buy bananas at twice the market price?Because Brazil has too many banana making the value drop in brazil, everyone's sick of the sight of banana's, the Jew knows this and only buys enough banana to maintain a scarcity in his target market and a glut in his source market. The brazilian banana farmer thus becomes a slave to the Jew.
>>542820475This. Where’s the lie?
>>542820138Uh oh, is dumpy about to lose Brazil to China? Not a good geopolitical ally to lose.
>USA has infinite amount of NFTs they dont even bother pritänribg on paper anymore>they also have a glitch that allows turning those NFTs into valuable physical goods without the NFT price immediately dropping to zero>apparently this is a bad thing because other countries do not throw their own homemade NFTs back to USA
>>542820475>Insert comic about two guys eating cowshit
>>542820497if you dont have bananas you cant be a banana republic, moron
>>542820138>for literally my entire life we've been making jokes about "dumb politicians">Trump runs against that image and ends up in charge>It turns out that everything really WAS a tangled, confusing mess that even the smartest people in the world can't figure out>And NOW we're seeing what actual "rule by a stupid person" would look like, and its a rolling disasterWew lad... Spare the banana; save the economy...
>>542830612>noooo its all a hecking tangled confusing mess!that is word for word what maduro was trying to tell them as he was hauled off and lost the venezuelan war
>>542830612that's stupid and so are you
>>542820138He's just saying retarded shit for his retarded voters while he and his billionaire friends keep getting richer. His net worth grew three times.
>>542821240>the question is why when you have a country as large as the US with a wide array of growing practices and climates are you buying shit from nigger countries?Because it's an order of magnitude cheaper, you stupid retard. Do you think Americans want to work on banana plantations? If another country can do something cheaper and more efficiently than you, you outsource it to them and focus on what you can actually do better than everyone else.
>>542820138>random quote taken out of context preak redditard tourist thread
how many bananas does israel get?
>>542820138
>>542831445>that is word for word what maduro was trying to tell themNo it wasn't.Literally what was the point of this lie?I am correct and you just made up the stupidest shit imaginable to say nothing and make no point.The world is complicated.If that's a "controversial take" to you, then holy shit bro, I'm sorry, you are actually just tragically stupid and basically an animal. Open your eyes.
>>542820328Can you answer why countries we trade with have had tariffs on us for decades and never considered it to be a detriment? Are they all just retards and you know better?
If you live in The Southwest U.S. there is absolutely NO GOOD reason to buy bananas.They are sending us half grown green garbage full of fruit fly larvae and eggs.I eat prickly pear fruit and pads instead.You harvest them with a long knife in to a 5 gallon bucket, take them home and lightly burn the thorns of on a metal screen or grate. You can use a camp fire or a plumbers butane torch available at any hardware store.. Prickly Pear Cactus (Opuntia species)The Parts: Both the ripe red fruits (tunas) and the tender green pads (nopalitos) are rich in potassium, magnesium, and calcium.Digestibility Factor: Very High. The fruit has a high water and mucilage content, making it an excellent, soothing electrolyte delivery system that is incredibly easy on the stomach.Preparation: You must meticulously remove the large spines and tiny, hair-like stickers (glochids). The fruit can be juiced, strained, or eaten raw; the pads are typically peeled, sliced, and grilled or boiled.https://youtu.be/6LqQf1XqUjY
I make jelly, hard candy and pancake syrup from prickly pear fruit.The hard candy is more effective than electrolyte hydration gummies.
Mesquite Pods (Prosopis species)The Parts: The mature, dry seed pods collected from the tree.Digestibility Factor: Moderate. Mesquite pods are incredibly rich in potassium (averaging over 15 g/kg of dry matter) along with magnesium and protein. However, in their raw state, they are highly fibrous and impossible for humans to digest fully.Preparation: To unlock the nutrients, the dry pods must be milled into a very fine flour or meal. This flour has a low glycemic index and is easily digested when baked into foods or steeped to make a sweet, potassium-dense syrup.I also feed them to my Wagyu cattle and Boer goats.
If it doesn't grow or live in your country, don't eat it. Simple as. Why don't people have pride anymore?
Yucca (Yucca species)The Parts: The flower petals and the emerging flower stalks.Digestibility Factor: High. While the tough leaves are completely indigestible, the creamy white blooms are tender, high in potassium and calcium, and have a mild flavor similar to artichoke hearts.Preparation: Boil or blanch the petals briefly to remove any residual bitterness and break down the plant tissues for seamless digestion.The roots are good for biodegradable non phosphate laundry soap and the fibres from the pads make great shoes, rope and so on.
>>542820138It's time for AMERICAN BANANAS
>>542820138>the author of the art of the deal
>>542820138So much their freedom...no bananas for muricans.
>>542832426Muricans will eat at future only wheat/corn-porridge.
>>542820138HE IS SO FAT AND SUBHUMAN
>>542820138what a retard
>>542820475The Average American, folks. Bred and fed for generations now, on a diet of GMO corn, flouride, kikeporn, and 5G, molded into the perfect retard consumer. It does what the jewbox tells it to do. It never looks up. It never questions authority. It just consoooms.
If we give Isreal 20 billion dollars we lose 20 billion dollarsSo if we stop sucking jewish cocks we actually save 20 billion dollarsIt's just simple economics
>>542834046The Art of the Deal was ghost written by Tony Schwartz, because Donny didn't make sense even then.
>>542820138holy fuck, he's literally retarded.
>>542820257He's right but he's also wrong because your economy was completely designed around exporting your fiat (worthless and useless) in exchange for tangible good (valuable and useful).This system is what made the USA the richest country in the history of the world, but Trump doesn't seem to understand.Or whoever is calling the shots above him has decided that the old system has gone too far, made the USA too import dependent and its people too poor, and so it needs to be changed.Weird that he'd focus on subservient as fuck Canada and not more adversarial trade partners first. I guess he's still butthurt over Trudeau fucking Melania.
>>542834592>>542834379>>542834046>>542820138>>542834420Brazil banana spice must flow
>>542820138Republicans say this shit and still poll better for economic issues just because they claim to lower taxes (they actually just lowered the taxes for the rich and shifted the burden on you)
>>542820728>Just stop eating bananas>What kind of faggot can’t survive without vegetables?>You’re an idiot if you need grain to live>Eat something cheaper than chicken
>>542821250>He's wrong because the dollar is the world reserve currency (for now) so when you do this, effectively more than 2 billion dollars flows back into the US via US treasury and bond salesthis retard has damaged the dollar position, yet America will continue being an empire due to a lot of things he hasnt been capable of noticing, and then, of not ruining or damaging. I want trump out of office, too damaging for murica and the free world.
dont make the mistake of voting for the democrats. i dont care if gas reaches $10 a gallon , its still not worth the hellish democrat utopia .
>>542820804are there actual papers on this? It is pretty fascinating to think about how we think.
>>542828471Bananas are for niggers. White people eat tasty animals and potatoes.
>>542820138"Bananas" are a metaphor for Israel, right?
>>542835656Banannas are a metaphor for nigger monkeys.
>>542820138Literally medieval understanding of economics.
>>542822090Do you have 2 billion worth of domestic bananas in the USA?
>>542836191Dont talk about banan you fucking spic. We have fields of banans.
>>542820138>AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
the thread is funny because communists never had bananas. people had to get into long queues for black overripe bananas.bananas are actually a very powerful symbol over here, believe it or not. if you said "black banana" people wouldnt do the pol thing and consider nigger pimmels, they would think about communists instantly and how SHIT communism was
>>542827656How is it a tax on the rich when the consumer is the one who ultimately eats the cost? The rich are doing quite well, he brags about the stock market performance all the time.
>>542820138he is old and still thinks dollar is backed by gold in that case he is totally correctsadly today dollar is just a paper (just like any other fiat)so usa can print more dollars to get bananas, then jews sell them with 400% markup to make gdp higher
>>542820138baby first step
>>542820138so by eating bananas mutts are hurting america!that money could be send to israel istead!
>>542837872imagine your own mom trying to aura farm at the cost of you. women are retarded. no matter who the son is, donald or not donald, its room temperature iq
>>542820138Banana Republican
>>542823130You actually believe him? kek
>>542820138It's his "if you kill your enemies, they win" moment
>>542820888Nice flag, (((anon))).You couldn't fight the urge to post such a retarded comment, you're expecting us to believe you and millions of subhuman niggers like your are going to go without bananas?Get the Fuck out of here.
>>542822553I'm just looking forward to the power system going down in January, and smelling the smoke of thousands of poos trying to stay warm by burning all their furniture and unseasoned wood from all the trees they cut down in the now barren cities. And then hearing the news stories come May when the smell changes to something else, and all the poos are found rotting, huddled in their kitchens, having died from CO poisoning because they were too stupid to open the window for the fires they lit in their ovens to stay warm. With poos, like with jews, you lose, until they do what they've always done: become their own worst enemies.
>>542838139the quote is literally taken out of context
>>542823844>US was built by some of the most economic literate people of its dayAnd they have nothing on Germany and what they had to overcome in the early '30's to become what they were by '38.And look what happened to them. And news flash, honey:Thanks to all things done in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd world the last 40 years in the name of 'democracy', the US is hated more now than the National Socialists ever were. Buckle up.
>>542822553I don't think so, brown boy.
>>542826218Im defining something as real in the sense that its functionality doesn't depend on an external prompt. Both your llm and money are placeholders until we assign it value
>>542820257>STOP buying produce>You should be buying Raytheon stocks instead
>>542838996Guess (((they))) were into the scat industry.
>>542820728Done them. Bananas are reddit soi
>>542831855because you were able to print infinite USDs and everyone else just had to deal with it. now you can't do that anymore
>>542820257A banana has more inherent value than a USD note.One thing you can eat, another one is paper (and you can't burn it, cause you get jailed if you do).
>>542831855The USA has 124% debt to GDP ratio.Any other country with such a ratio has to declare state bankruptcy. The USA doesn't, because it benefits from other countries trading with their USD.Thinking that the USA would be the party that looses in international trade relations, with their global trade currency, is the craziest mulatto delusion i have ever seen.
>>542822090You do realize there is a reason someone is willing to pay for the shipping of bananas from thousands of miles away and he will still get more bananas and make more profit than by growing them locally? You do realize your whole economy and prosperity rests on global trade? Why the fuck would you think sabotaging a system is smart while you’re on top? Oh now I remember, Israel got angry at the global rules based world order, so now it must be dismantled.
>>542820728>I absolutely must have my heckin’ bananarinos^^^^^you are here>I absolutely must have my heckin’ strawberinos>I absolutely must have my heckin’ metarinos>I absolutely must have my heckin’ breaderinos>I absolutely must have my heckin’ salterinos
>>542820328are you implying that the ecoli and salmonella that they export along with their products is somehow a virtue, anon? Do you equate the rampant criminal immigrant to being a "fair deal" because we get some products with the deal?
>>542835543Potatoes are literally non european
you lost tranny
>>542840173>global rules based world orderno such thing ever existed, thought
>>542820138Why trade anything with anyone instead of just going without?
>>542826572Banana oil.
Potassium ion hoarders keep winning.
>>542839700Trvthnvke>Mix potassium and water (based molecule)>BurnsYou know what else doesn't like touching water? Niggers. Ergo, potassium is a WOKE chemical and white people should NOT consume it. Charlie horses are a sign of genetic fitness.
>>542840627Just eat carrots
>>542840011These people really do not understand this shit but they think they do. They do not understand that trading paper for assets benefits us. Paper that we just print.
>>542820138Same guy pushing this fake/gay crypto ‘money’. It’s completely obvious to those who aren’t retarded(me) that this guy will oversee the economic collapse of the dollar and losing reserve currency status. Who better than the king of bankruptcy. Expect more endless bullshit before the wheels really begin to come off. The goal here is to keep the plebs at bay while hyperinflating the dollar as slowly as possible. Don’t expect a fucking thing to get better or you’re just deluding yourself. g(A)y(I) is just another tool in their pocket to keep this shit show running and keep track of everything/everybody better as everything implodes. The predictive programming with the oil crisis is confirmation shit is about to get real niggers
>>542840863Prey animal food. I am an all-American predator like my president.
https://youtu.be/pSS7iJUsYCY?si=Cqd0-dP5otFBWCMC
>>542841334Locally sourced grub
>>542820138Shart of the deal.Trump is a tru retard
>>542820138no he isnt retarded, hes just kiked to a state of brainloss that was simply unimagineable till yet...
We shouldn't buy from other peopleOther people should buy from us
>>542820138Holy fuck, magas would rope themselves to stop consumption and save money
>>542820321Imagine the mental gymnastics to claim that shitting himself, live on television, is part of his plan.
I don't know why you guys are so upset by this. We knew Trump was a retard going back to 2017 and you voted for him 3 times regardless.
>>542820328>replaces leg with prostheticeat shit Randall
>>542821568he never graduated, though.Also, I would not call Wharton School a ivyleague...
>>542820728Yes, I must have my heckin bananarinos dumb bong.
>>542843070he's just trolling, lib
>>542820888>decide to not buy a car on credit.>car is $25k>With virtually no money extra over your cost of living as it normal in jewified soviet america, you can spare $200 a month if all of your disposable income is saved.>no dates, no luxuries, no extraneous, no unexpected expenses, all of it goes into savings.>your income won't go up since it hasn't since the 70's if you've a real non makework jew job.>Ten and a half years later you've 25k in the bank, all that time without a car or any spare luxuries.>10 & 1/2 years later. From 20 years old to 30. No kids or wife as those are extra expenses.>Go to pay cash and find out inflation doubled the cost of your car in ten years.>you've another ten years to afford your $50K car.>somehow you have to avoid getting laid off over 20 years now.Welcome to america spicboy.
>Dont buy 2 billion usd worth of bananas from Brazil>56% of nigger pop in zogmerica chimp out>Spend 10 billion containing them for the next 6 monthsYoure welcome zogmutts, pay the fucking banana tax
>>542820138high iq president for a high iq nation
>>542843240>its just 4d chess!!
>>542820138i supposed technically he is correct.if trade balance was the ultimate goal he should impoverish his population so they dont have money to buy bananas.
>>542821503Sure, he's past caring if he sounds plausible or competent, can just say whatever and count on everyone falling in line - kinda amazing how ridiculously stupid the US electorate actually is but oh well...
This is basically how Trump thinks."Canada rips us off for $90B each year">We sell the US 4.5MBPD in crude oil shipped directly to Texas at and $8/barrel discount under the WTIThe refiners in Texas then turn that thick sludge into gas, diesel, jet fuel and export it for mega profit. It is hard to believe a man could be so dumb. It is all the same for the other products Canada rips off the US on. We sell trees that turn into US homes. We sell aluminum that turns into planes and cars. We sell potash that turns into fertilizer for US farmers.
>>542820475well, he is 100% correct.
>>542822029but the government has deficit budget not the population.
>>542821957An export ban on their "culture" would be good for everyone else also.
>>542820660It's already a third world shithole though? Have you ever been to the states? It's fucking dangerous man.
>>542842879They do. They buy US dollars that we print at no cost to ourselves with actual things of value.
>>542824189These vermin won't 'learn it' ever, they never do. Even when they are being put in front of a pit filled with their vermin brothers, they'll blame anything and everything but the innate lack of accounting for humanity as the prime issue in ecconomics. We'll just be 'bad evil nazi's' who are killing them for no reason what so fucking ever, even as they are dying.Once the jewish mind virus infects a person, its terminal. Much like some prion disease. Jews are born with it, but goyim have to accept the disease into themselves. But once taken, they can never give it up.This is why you have to burn it all. Fire cleanses all. Water does nothing against that thing.
>>542843849you arent a real country and never have been, or you would have protested when the articles of confederation removed you auto approved from statehood in the union. You are a crown subject
>>542841097Define 'us'. How is the average person in the US better off than their grandfather?
>>5428243543/4"s of a typical african shithole's economy is done underground in their black markets, most of it selling fully legal goods, but all of it off the books because why would you do anything on the books?As such, the black market for banana would happen pretty quick, as everyone loves banana. Even if you can obtain the banana legally, most people will not afford their favorite luxury food, and those producing that luxury good are utterly dependent on it so will sell it far cheaper even than now. Meaning there is a vast amount of money to be made on the black market between the banned or tripled priced banana. And its fucking easy to transport if you just turn it into banana pudding or baby food, or frozen banana.Black markets are not only criminal cartels. Black markets are the norm for most goods and services before the 1950's. I am sure there are some juedo tier naming conventions out there you can use to legalize your way to 'but ackshuckly', and you can go right off and fuck your black dildo with that nonsense.
