Just win the war against Iran. It's that easy. The american military is said to be top 3 in the world along with China and Russia. Come on now.
>>542837730Absolutely baffling that they thought they would just surrender if they killed khomeini and had no plans what to do afterwards if they didnt.
>>542837730The US doesn't import any of its fuel needs, the primary country they trade with regarding energy is yours. You should be posting Europe's prices.
>>542837732Cheaper than the US atp
You guys are trying to pitch this as a big loss but at the end of the day they lost their leader and multiple critical nuclear installations and are still hunkering down and hiding everything as we speak, and our gas went up by $1 per gallonsoooo lol
>>542837734it's like "yeah they're in total lockdown mode right now and fear the skies every day but you pay an extra 5 bucks every time you fill up"
>>542837730We could, if the domestic population and you faggots would be ok with some military losses but no one is, so it's going to be bombing them from far away for now.
>>542837732>You should be posting Europe's pricesI havent noticed much of a change over the past year. Back in 2023 they were like 20% higher then what we have today.
>>542837734>government is still there>uranium is still there>missiles and drones are still here>all oil production sites and US bases in the region wrecked>"but we killed some schoolgirls and a grandpa in the opening day so we won"
>>542837738>>542837738If Iran killed Trump and some American schoolgirls it would be considered the biggest military disaster in American history
>>542837731Given the American record it was entirely predictable. Everybody makes miscalculations once or twice but these mfs been doing the same thing for a dozen times now and it's never once worked. They must derive some sick pleasure from suffering strategic defeat after defeat. I'll be surprised the day USA actually reaches the goals they've set in a conflict.
>>542837740Venezuela worked
>>542837734Gas didn't go up near me at all. Don't see why it would the US doesn't buy oil from UAE. Might be a regional thing, are you sure you're American. Most people in the US are at least faintly aware that there's regional differences in prices, this feels like bait.
>>542837739they don't need to kill your civilians, they're focusing on your backbone - the petrodollar. If USA can't enforce it anymore, you'll see a resurgence of currencies moving away from it, weakening the US beyond repair.
>>542837738I like how you think we're struggling more on the other side of the planet due to a price blip, and they're not for functionally ceasing all exports on their side and getting embargoed. You don't think they're in economic pain right now? lmaonafri retard
>>542837742When oil price goes up internationally, do you really think American oil producers are going to sell to Americans at a lower price, or to non-Americans at a higher price?
>>542837741I guess the discombobulator doesn't work on people with Scythian ancestry
>>542837743Excuse me, are our ships and carriers off their shore surrounding them, or them us? Don't confuse a lack of desire to engage in a shock and awe campaign (like Israel vs Gaza) with an inability to do so. He's trying to avoid escalation because he doesn't want an Iraq on his hands. He got cute after how easy Venezuela was but didn't realize Iran was full of religious fanatics that are willing to go down with the ship.
>>542837743lmao i love how turd worlders throw around words like “petrodollar” and “world reserve currency” like that’s the special secret weak spot on the death star my heckin movies told me all supervillains have. Do you know the value of that, all in, is approximately worth about $100 billion in lower borrowing costs to the US federal government, which spends $6 trillion a year for a country with a $32 trillion GDP?
>>542837730You still need smart people with actual strategic insight in order to wield that army properly. Now, the Americans also do have plenty of that, but the current people in charge have decided that this is woke and soy o algo.>>542837731Literally video game logic to be honest.>>542837740Before the recent fiasco, it's been due to discrepancies between the stated purpose of the intervention and the de facto implementation. For example Iraq (probably) would have succeeded if the arrangement had been more equitable and not the extractive securitized state it was.
>>542837730Don't siege Hormuz just take it
When the midterms are over he is going to assfuck them
>>542837749Iraq did succeed dumbass, Saddam is gone and Iraq is now a stable ally. Afghanistan is what you’re thinking of
>>542837745I don't think really anything changes much it's easier to ship it domestically since they produce it here. So by default it costs more to ship it overseas.
>>542837742It's gone up about $2 in Iowa since February and fluctuates 30 to 40 cents every day. I drive 300 miles a week just to get to work, so it's hurting.
>>542837752Iraq was over Kuwait, and yes it did succeed, but I'd hazard to call them an ally.
Eglin shill meltdown ITT
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>>542837752>Iraq is now a stable ally.They were embroiled in civil war about half a decade ago, it's a bit premature to refer to it as a success.
>>542837758cope
>>542837757I lived through Bush so it's kind of hard to convince me that the current state of things are dire at all as far as MENA wars and oil crises. This is a literal fart in the wind because he's keeping it at that point.
>>542837753You don't get it, there is a finite amount of oil produced in America, if foreigners are willing to pay more for American oil than Americans are, American oil producers will sell to foreigners rather than Americans.
>>542837754Gas prices globally shot up since February because petro is treated as a global commodity. Like if someone burns an oil refinery in the ME it affects the supply for everyone not specifically the US. My point was that it's actually brain damaged to single out the US in this because the price change is purely financial, the domestic supply hasn't changed at all.
>>542837747yet your trade routes are still fucked. if you can enforce it's safety, then do it, you can't blame everyone else for pointing out the obvious result - ships aren't passing through>>542837748the only reason your bureaucrats can keep printing money, is because the USA enforces the rest of the world be dependent on the petrodollar, otherwise the government couldn't bail out it's industries every time they fuck up. If other countries start moving to gold standard for example, your economy loses out and has to compete more. Meaning your government can no longer press the "save the industries" button to print money.either your oil monopoly needs to be enforced, or your currency loses it's value and you can kiss your military capabilities goodbye with a shit economy
>>542837761>>542837753This is also just straight up good policy, it's how we do it. The converse is to be like Venezuela or Russia.>>542837759no u
>>542837761I get it, but that would cause those same foreign countries to spike in price drastically if they're willing to price out people in the US that hard so much so that it makes a profit despite the cost of shipping, which also uses fuel btw.
>>542837763Lmao fucking idiot, every country in the world and the eurozone can and does print money as much as they want to stimulate the economy, and in many cases doing so is beneficial because it depresses the value of your currency relative to others and makes your exports cheaper (see: China). >muh gold standardHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAgod you’re fucking stupid, no wonder Lithuanians kill themselves all the time
>>542837748A trillion is nothing
>>542837765Every country is willing to pay more for oil.
>>542837763It's one trade route that has fucked, and that's why the price has gone up by a fraction, rather than doubling. Ironically enough this actually helps domestic North American production as they benefit from higher barrel prices.I would call this a minor policy mistake but it's hardly a disaster no matter how much the trolls insist on painting it like that. If he is going to escalate and carpet bomb them it will happen after the midterms.
>>542837768I'm aware and that price should reflect in the cost, if they're effectively bidding for oil the countries bidding would see a spike in price. That's what set this whole conflict into motion btw, in 2020 Russia started a price war with Saudi Arabia. You might think 'wow that's excellent the price of oil will be driven into the ground' instead we got Nordstream bombed, the ME became more of a shitshow than it already was, and now the conflict in Ukraine has been hot for the past 5 years.
>>542837769>Ironically enough this actually helps domestic North American production as they benefit from higher barrel prices.The American economy doesn't depend on oil, higher pil prices affect the rest of the American economy negatively more than it benefits American oil producers
>>542837734>>542837735>"dude is just $1 lol">"wait why are my groceries suddenly 30% more expensive"
>>542837734lmao it must be hard to shill in these troubled times
>>542837732Nigger your own oil doesn't produce any diesel and you literally import half of the oil you refine from mexico and canada.
>>542837730We're trying to avoid nuclear war. We could glass the area at any time but it'll will trigger a global response and it's likely someone will take down our grid.
>>542837730Do not panic buy MAGA bros. Thats what a China want you to do. Let Tyrone Jr and Mr Goldberg buy their gas. Thats a little bit of suffering for you but thats compensated by Tyrone and Goldbergs happyness.
>>542837730They're going to find out why we don't have healthcare, affordable gas, and non poison food in 2 weeks.
>>542837734>they lost their leaderWhile you are stuck with your leader. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Top military in the world is probably Polish looking at recent geopolitical events and failures by 2 of those "top militaries". China is meme with temu gear.So your post already holds false premise.
>>542837731>Absolutely baffling that they thought they would just surrender if they killed khomeini and had no plans what to do afterwards if they didnt.is it? are you familiar with Trump? He doesn't do details or day 2 plans, just bluster and bullshit.
>>542842875>Top military in the world is probably PolishIt's easy to just bombard warsaw and all the poland hangars.They won't have anything left after 1 day, they are not protected by mountains like Iran is.
>>542837731Well, like the old saying goesNiggers are retarded.
>>542837732so like... you concede the argument you made life worse for everybody in the world with your existence ? Do you have a deathwish or sumthing ?
>>542837741Well Venezuela wasn't a war, you dumb nigger. It was bribing his bodyguards lolWhen burgers actually have to fight to win you get Afghanistan, Iraq and now Iran.
>>542838516that's not gonna bring the oil price down.what makes happen is a bunch of ultra fundamentalist terrorists.are you literally trying to fuck the entire planet over ?
>>542843294>are you literally trying to fuck the entire planet over ?the average burger doesn't think further ahead than his next meal, which are typically spaced about 11 minutes apart throughout the day
>>542837731>khomeini he wasnt even the leader, it's like killing the pope.
>>542837731That's the american way anon. Do first, ask later (if they bother to ask at all)
>>542837740>the USA are stupid pussies>do you even war>joins NATO
>>542837730just switch to hydrogen it's not complicated
>>542843382still better than putting up with mental trannies.The ultimate war is on trannies.
>>542837731It's like having your entire home defense strategy being "just pump the shotgun and fire two shots in the air", and then having that not "scare them away".
>>542837730>Diesel prices hit new high!This is fucking retarded, every new high is going to be a record high.
if you look at the 10 year trend, you can see the global events which cratered and soared oil prices>covid lockdowns in 2020>russian invasion of ukraine in 2022>iran war in 2026the issue is China is not buying at regular levels atm choosing instead to draw down it's 1.4b barrel stockpile, which has and will change https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/10/china-crude-oil-iran-hormuz-war-trump-brent-prices-.htmlas well as the US burning through it's own strategic reserve to keep prices down https://energyfactbook.com/strategic-petroleum-reserve/the shipping lanes themselves are operating at an average of around a third of their volume which was offset by red sea exports but you can see that drastically dipping in recent months due to houthi activity https://hormuzstraittracker.com/what does this all mean? the longer these shipping lanes stay closed the more strategic reserves will be burned, but major powers aren't going to draw down reserves to 0, especially the US. Without resolution to this war by the end of the year i'd say we're only at the tip of the iceberg as far as the global recession that's going to hit. the indicator is not the current closures, it is when countries have decided that strategic reserves are too low
>>542843428>just switch to hydrogenAll the hydrogen busses in Scotland have gradually been thrown into the garbage dumpster.They couldn't source repair parts without getting ripped off.
>>542844059its almost like there are jewish interests that want you depdentent on oil
>>542837742>it was real in his migger mind
>>542844159>its almost like there are jewish interests that want you depdentent on oilPerhaps.I can also tell you Danes and Norwegians have been pressured to get rid of their Electric battery busses, due to "national security / Dem chinese spy on your bus passengers!!"Brits have been pressured to get rid of electric tractors because "dem Chinese are spying on your farmer crops!!"
>>542844323all according to plan it seems
>>542837752>Saddam is gone and Iraq is now a stable allyIraq is now a stable ally of Iran that wants the US gone from its territory.
>>542843428Next you're going to say we should use nuclear energy
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