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Doesn't expensive gasoline and diesel make investment in American wells financially feasible and if kept high for long enough would spur internal investment that would pay off quick enough that even once prices were lowered the Saudi's would no longer have enough of the international market to be strategically important?
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I am pretty sure the Iraq and Afghanistan misadventures as a second order effect triggered the first investment in this and changed the US from a net importer to net exporter in quick order and the Saudis had to shut it down quick but harmed OPEC in the process.
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>>542850138
You are falsely assuming that investment makes the marginal cost of extracting oil go down. This is not the case. It costs much more per gallon to extract oil by fracking than it does for the Saudis.

Even if the Saudis are temporarily unable to export, they will instantly shut down our fracking operations when they get back on the market and are able to sell for half price. It's happened before.
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>>542850295
The Saudis have always been willing to throw OPEC under the bus for their own benefit. Back before the Iranian revolution, the shah NEEDED an oil price hike to fund all the programs that were keeping him in power. The Saudis said no, simply because keeping prices low stops westerners like us from going off in search of alternatives.
Obviously the Shah did not survive that decision
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>>542850440
Seems like from a national security perspective, we should destabilize all middle east exports by clogging up safe transit and forcing the world to rely on us as suppliers when our only other major rival has its own refineries damaged in a war. Hmmmm
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>>542850600
Personally I think from a national security standpoint it's better for your civilians to buy their luxuries with foreign raw materials. I don't want our domestic reserves depleted in case things get bad
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>>542850600
That would piss other nations off that are dependent on oil from the middle east. Would be a disaster possibly leading to war with other nations like China.
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>>542850683
I was suggesting that with Russia fucking up in Ukraine the Trump administration has been making moves to essentially control the world energy supply. It has strung along a half ass war in the two middle east shipping lanes immediately after it seized Maduro and slowly been picking away at Russian export capability. It is even supporting secessionist in western Canada. I think they are trying to strangle the non vassal states economies with high import prices, ans as soon as Bessent says the US stock market exposure is small enough they will stop energy exports to further drive the energy price crisis in India/China/EU so that American manufacturing has an energy price advantage.
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>>542851024
I think any theory that relies on trump having a thought or plan beyond serving Israel and soiling his diaper is fundamentally misunderstanding the administration we're currently living under.
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>>542851120
Project 2025 and immigration say there is some method to the madness
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>>542850138
Biden did a lot of damage to future oil exploration during his term. President Autopen really fucked us over.
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>>542850138
Do you americans even have enough white men to do these jobs? I was always under the impression that only white men work such a back breaking job.
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>>542850138
americans wells are already very cheap, less than $14 million to drill and complete. the problem is the refineries, all our refineries are for heavy crude and all our new oil from fracking is light. the refinery will blow up if you out it in it. the epa wont let us build any new well.
t.oil and gas chad
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>>542850138
Our government refuses to frack because (((we))) have, this entire time, intentionally gimped our manufacturing and intentionally tied our oil to the Saudis et all for no reason other than the kikes' amusement.
Your idea is very cute, but it belies a nonunderstanding of how the Jews operate, pretending that some sort of profit-driven engine exists when, instead, (((we))) speculate with funny Monopoly money, and economic viability is not one of our main priorities.
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>>542851120
Thinking like that is why Trump has managed to win two terms. You guys keep underestimating him. Either God is guiding him or he's a lot smarter than you guys care to admit. And either way you sell him short to your detriment.
TDS cuts both ways.
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>>542851818
The heritage foundation created a domestic agenda which has been pushed successfully. But Iran wasn't in project 2025, nor were the broad tariffs which appear to come and go based on the president's whims. Both these things came out of nowhere as a result of the unstable mental state of another president in his 80s.

Furthermore if he were a mastermind, he wouldn't be about to get buried in the midterms by a public that loathes him for all of this. If this is all part of a long term 4D chess master plan then it's all about to be fucked when a democrat-controlled house and senate blocks him from doing anything. I would think a megabrain genius would think of that.
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>>542852529
I have never underestimated the magnetism Trump has for the braindead mouthbreathers that make up the American electorate. However I have always had a low estimation of his actual ability to make good policy, and my estimates have only been vindicated.
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>>542852529
Unironic jeet-boomer posting isn't funny. You do yourself little credit.



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