Putting head in the sand.To see evidence of this, look at any social media. It's ABSOLUTELY FLOODED with entertainment and sports slop. X's trending tab (not the for you tab) has been 50/50 entertainment/sports this week, and 200% sports on fri-mon!I know my friends and family are pretending like their lives aren't falling apart. >diesel is 6 1/2 dollars, guys>haha yeah, thats so funny>...whut
We're in stagflation, only cure is an '80s style return to high interest rates. They got to 14% and BOOM inflation was cured.Also that will force cucky foreign nations to buy our bonds instead of their own or each others.
Last weekend, trending was 40 sportsball/niggerball posts. Looks like we're gearing up for another niggerball weekend.
>>542850845relax niggers/biz/ is screaming their lungs out that US is collapsing and to exit all positionsIn reality that means all is fine
High interest rates also kill zombie companies, many have been created since ZIRP was implemented in 2008.
>>542850964so does that mean my folks who just bought a house, and will be trying to sell their old house this fall/winter are fucked?
>>542851037why do YOU care? you're gonna be drafted soon according to your manic post
>>542850845You lost tranny. I voted for this.
>>542850845zoom out
>>542851078Real estate didn't stop being bought and sold when we had high interest rates in the '80s.
>>542851221your point?they lowered rates so boomers could refi and gobble up even bigger houses, and now they're locking the market forever?
>>542850964>>542851196>>542851221>>542851252>>542851371HOLY FUCK, this got all the /biz/ damage controllers out. How much you guys bein paid?
>>542851221You realize 1/3 of your taxes now goes towards paying off just the interest on your debt?
Nobody can even explain how this is bad, nor argue against how higher interest rates helped with inflation in the '80s. OP's a simpleton, xer entire outfit is simpletons.
>>542851129>mutt logicno comprende
>>542851449the post wasn't about rates, faggot.you're the monkey brain who saw the image and then posted. the post is about how midwest faggots like yourself are ignoring the impending doom. >rates>oil>iran
>>542851221>>542851371The government didn't have $40T of debt to service back then. Debt-to-GDP was in the low 30%s in the 1980s
>>542851509some serb fag OP-spammed a post about forced enlistment in serbia just now. and since you're the only serb who knows how to use dns to find pol, i assume its you
No one is sufferingNo one is missing mealsThe only people complaining are the work at home niggers, you know the ones underqualified to do actual work. They're bitching because they can't afford the inflated prices of GPU's and RAM. Gas? These people don't fucking travel. Their families hate them and don't want them visiting on the holidays. They spend jack shit in gas.The interest rates are high? Oh no whatever will we do with all the fake and gay companies?>>542851078>Bought on a highNever do this. With anything>>542851129No one is getting drafted because no war has been declared lol. Is CNN going to draft me for their fake news war in salt land? They're simply getting bombing runned until they open up a jewish bank n their country, I don't care how long the blockade starves them. Thank god we don't get oil or really anything from Iran.
>>542850845Good, those of us paying attention can better prepare before everyone else freaks out.
>>542851627>No one is suffering>No one is missing mealswrong.
>>542850845Some Americans.
>>542851529It is. You posted the treasury bond return rates for ten year bonds.You simply have no idea what you're even posting, or why you think it's bad, therefore you're poor at trying to communicate how it's bad, not knowing yourself.You were told "post this and act like it's bad" but how is it? You don't know and you can't say.OTOH many people think this is good and it should be higher still. It also chases people out of gambling their savings in the stock market - say we hit 7%. That's a super healthy ZERO risk return. Lots of people will convert the stocks (at ATH bubble) into bonds. Could help adjust the market that way too.You're just low IQ and brown and underage.
>>542850845Zoom out dude
>>542851627wow, you can't read a pol thread. all 3 of your responses have nothing to do with what they reply to
>>542850845>yawnKWake me up when something happens
>>542850845
>>542851709no. it's not. that's a bot distraction image. the only reason I FUCKING PUT THAT THERE was because you had to put something, so i put something tangentially related
>>542851709MY FUCKING POST IS ABOUT THE FUCKING PEOPLE IGNORING EVERYTHING EVEN HARDER THAN USUAL AND POSTING NOTHING BUT NIGGERBALL AND ENTERTAINMENT BULLSHIT. not rates. fag
>>542851078Fucked no but they aren't going to get what they think the house is worth.
>>542851669No one. Not even you, shitposting here instead of making yourself lunch. Oh a Mcchicken costs $4 now? Pablo the illegal missed the airplane peanut handout before being deported? Cry me a river, bitch nigger. The most obese country next to fucking Mexico. No one starves in Burgerland, it's a meme and the people who meme it are fucking memes. Sink or swim you motherfuckers!
>>542851875>No one.cope copety cope cope cope copesounds like cope
>>542850964Except this isn’t 1970’s wallstreet, it’s a giant debt casino with infinity dollars owed to circular institutions where all economic growth is based on borrowing.
>>542851669Who is starving to death in the US faggot. Name one single person.
>>542851790>>542851842Ignoring what though? Are you angry that the public isn't engaging with ActBlue shilling? You overshilled, I warned you faggots about this for years. You hit that point where people tuned out your bullshit. Nobody cares any more about outrage headline culture.Ya blew it. Cass Sunstein who was Bill Clinton's Presidential Science Advisor INVENTED Internet shilling. And he talked about it in his book, and about how over-shilling backfires and just causes everybody to ignore your fake ass garbage.But shilling is a paid gig so you faggots just saw money and totally overdid it. Now nobody cares, they wanna see FOOTBALL and SWEENEY'S TITS!Fucking loser lol.
>>542850964The debt was 1T in 1980, not 40T.At 10%, interests would be 4T/year.Federal Income tax revenues are 2.2T/year, that’s it.Wtf are you guys smoking I want some.It’s fucking over.
>>542851078Depends what they're trying to sell it for.You can either have high prices and low interest rates, or high interest rates and low prices.If you have high interest rates AND high prices, then the only people buying will be the rich who can drop cash, or a high down payment. So unless it is something someone well off would want, or an area a developer would want to take over....
>>542851586Kek, we have elections in a month, you will hear alot of insane shilling here because main opposition now are studentfag aged people
>>542851732>all 3 of your responses have nothing to do with what they reply toThis entire thread has nothing to do with anything. It's literally pointing another finger at sportsball and interest rates, as if we don't have enough useless niggers in this country doing that already. It's really like I'm watching Bloomberg TV.
>>542851221Yeah but we have much less debt back then
>>542851413You misunderstand, I voted for the damage to not be controlled
>>542852008many in my extended family. fuck you.
>>542850845What am I gonna do?
>>542852008Welfare queens.
>>542852308post about sportsball (scripted) apparently is what you're gonna do
>>542852160>cope. you don't even know what you're arguing about. you've jumped the shark. pol has become your identity. i bet you use pol phrases irl
>>542852353tell us what you think people should be paying attention to, go ahead rattle off your laundry list of liberal-leftie causesand then understand, people have heard what you've said every day for at least a decade or more, so they're tuning it out
>>542852214Liar You dont have extended family
>>542850845Why the fuck would i look at social media?
>>542852499>people should be paying attention toliterally ANYTHING except entertainment and sports. it's impossible to gaslight me to NOT see social media filling up will EXTRA mindless shit so stop tryingagain, the weekend is literally 100% sports trending, literally no other topics are apparently important enough to discuss using this amazing tech we call the internet.
>>542850845They are not necessarily ignoring it, but they are rather ignorant to such matters.
>>542851753>It was much higher in 1981Yea, back when you only owed $1T15.84% interest on $1T is $158B5.01% interest on $40T is $2T per yearYour debt is higher than your total GDP.Your annual loan interest is higher than both Health and National Defense spending combined and you're borrowing $1T every 90 days just to keep it from complete and total collapse.At this rate, in 5 years the entire US budget will be spent only on debt. No military, no Healthcare, no Medicare, no VA, no Social Security, no DMV, no Schools, no Benefits, no Police, no Fire Brigade.You're actually fucked.
>>542852566predictable response is predictable.
>>542850964correct.
>>542852499>omg, you don't care about niggerball?! you must be a leftyget a life.>inb4, i have a life drinking beer, pretending i'm a farmer with 2 cows, driving around flat flyover land, filling up my f250 with led underlighting and caring about niggerball
>>542852666Checked but be realistic satan, we're all fucked if the US defaults (and thats a good thing here's why)
Two more weeks until the Great Satan falls. Got it. Keep me posted shitskin
>>542852871>and thats a good thing here's whyYou've hit on an important point and you've recognized the driving patterns, and that's key. It's not just X, it's Y. Let's dive in...
>>542852646>literally ANYTHING except entertainment and sports.OK I feel we need to go back, way back into history, Caesar in particular talked about pacifying the masses with bread and circuses. What's changed? As more people get their news and entertainment with streaming and on-demand etc., it's natural for the cultural string-pullers to focus on social media too.Many of the "people" getting likeshares are bots or shill accounts too, created to distract the masses. And the algorithm will push this stuff to you as well. Where is the precise mystery? Mainstream used to be TV and radio, newspapers, and they were full of these distractions and of course ads, and ads posing as news, etc. going back to the dawn of the media age. Before that the kings would recruit bards to sing songs to the public about the great King and how he was helping the people. And occasionally the king would appear to distribute MONEY, which is where we get our parade tradition of throwing candy, a vestige of this old entertainment and largesse disbursement, designed to wow the public and give them a little something for their pockets and bellies.You need to lurk, nigger.>>542852731It works, there's proof.>>542852807You're a leftie, I can tell. The way you weasel around with your bullshit, it's classic leftie. You should stop doing that lol. It makes you stand out here.
>>542852997>You're a leftie, I can tell.you're 100 percent wrong. therefore the rest of your post is wrong. tldr
>>542850845I hope this destroys all homebuyers since Covid.>Yes, I mean >>(you). Especially >>(you).
>>542851221did the government have 40 trillion of debt it had to service in 1984?
>>542853041I'm not buying your bullshit, leftie-liberal anon. Never did.You shouldn't have opened with your bait image you've been trying to spread fear with, for one you stupid idiot.
>>542851627>No one is suffering>No one is missing mealsyes there are. they are just at the bottom of the ladder and you don't encounter them.
>>542853123not a leftie, faggot. go fuck your cow.
>>54285096440 trillion in debt 14% interest rate, huh? good luck
>>542853123>you've been trying to spread fear withah, so you are white-knighting shill.>no sir, don't talk bad about the economy, the economy will get even worse if you talk bad about it.Get fucked. i'm coming for you and your type specifically. gladly friendly-fire you when shtf
They always forget...
>>542850845Gee. What happened March 1st to start it going up??
>>542850967The only one of these I’ve even heard of is that faggot Jake Paul.
>>542850964Wrong. They need to drop rates and let inflation rip. This will negate the effect of the debt.
>>542853398read the post. it's not just about rates.
$7 gas and 5% for US treasuries are not the primary signs of impending doom. Its gambling. 2.5 million young american men have severe online gambling addiction, an additional 8 million young men have an online gambling problem. 96% of them are in the lowest percentile for income, 11% of them file for personal bankruptcy every year, each year.Historically, excessive gambling among the poor was treated as a warning sign of economic despair (the fatalism effect) and the primary symptom of a total lack of upward mobility.There's never been this much measurable despair among young men in any developed country. An overwhelming feeling of despair among young men was the cause of every revolution, most civil wars, the outbreak of communism leading up to the soviet union. Americas flavor of late stage capitalism really did break young people and it wont be pretty
>>542850845>2 more weeks!>Source: Some random nobody on twitter.Sounds scary. How long do you think it'll take for white people with jobs, savings, and investments who live within their means to notice all of this societal collapse?
>>542852871>we're all fucked if the US defaultsGood
>>542851435Says the leaf
>>542850845here's the inverted graph
>>542853431>Its gambling.i appreciate your input, as opposed to the 15 other shills in here that came out of the woodwork to defend this economyfood for thought. i definitely hate gambling fags. and i'm in Nevada
>>542853154You're a liberal-leftie, they merged. Progressive stack saw to that.Again, you need to at least try to fit in here.>>542853200>he thinks the fake fiat money is real>he thinks the entire national debt is adjusted in real time to fit the current interest rateThis is why nobody pays attention to your fear mongering, the thing OP is so frustrated about. You're full of shit and everybody can tell easily.>>542853286>white-knightingWho am I white-knighting? That's not even a proper use of the term. The fact is we can all tell that affordability and the economy are the things ActBlue has been told to shill about here on /pol/ this election season, and you've filled the catalog 1/3rd of the way up with your drivel and nobody's clicking because we've already discussed things.Even if it's a serious problem, you can STILL cause people to tune it out by overshilling. Which you have lol. But here especially we're just tired of replying to your poorly crafted >1pbtid threads, all the human users here use 4chanX and have filtered your bullshit on many topics and do so continuously as you concoct a new wave of garbage to thrust at the board.>>542853408>the effectthere is no effect, the rates need to crank so it's harder for corporations to simply borrow money to fuel growth, and to get people OUT of the gambling stock market
>>542853443>>Source: Some random nobody on twitter.do you not know how to read? the post is not about the photo. or are you also a bot?
>>542853672faggot. diddn't read your shit faggot.
>>542853443>jobs, savings, and investmentsbut to humor your off-topic comment,jobs savings and investments will soon just be savings, deflated.
>>542853431>Poor people are niggers with money.Holy shit, it's definitely hapening how!
>>542853672fiat money is traded for real goods, so it is, for all intents and purposes, realwhen the merry go round stops and we have fuel shortages because no one wants dollars anymore shit'll be bad. buying a loaf a bread for a wheelbarrow full of cash back in weimar wasn't a meme, it was realityalso kys faggot
>>542853735See? You're reverting to your true form after a few posts. You liberal-lefties always do this. You turn nasty and Marxist back from whatever you were pretending to be. Maybe this is another reason why nobody is engaging with your concern shill threads.
>>542850845kek, wtfgas is the same price it was when I started driving like a decade and a half ago. wake me up when the country loses electricity or something, otherwise, nothing ever happens its just words.
>>542853830>it is, for all intents and purposes, realno it isn't. it's not "REAL" if it can be arbitrarily and purposefully inflated.They LITERALLY turned coin clipping into an invisible, state-sanctioned version of coin clipping that's way easier than even having to lift a finger to cut the edges off a coin, since they're so work averse
>>542853654Social media companies are monetizing despair, why you see so much gambling/niggerball. Its really gross and im happy it is completely banned here. Even lootboxes in videogames are banned here. How many young american men online gambling is destroying is an underreported tragedy
>>542853431This.Work colleagues all used to buy a lottery ticket when the payout got big ($10M+)Now a lot of them gamble on their phones at lunch time every day, then don't turn up to work the day before payday because they've got no petrol.They also don't talk about it anymore, it's not fun anymore, it's depression.
>>542853136>they are just at the bottom of the ladder and you don't encounter them.They've been missing meals forever, why it a problem now?
>>542853883faggot, diddn't read your shit.
>>542850845Now zoom out, you retarded tranny
>>542853654Tell us about your personal finances. What do you do for work? What sort of investments do you have? What would you say your largest expense is these days? Are you actively doing anything to increase your future earning potential or reduce your future cash outflows?>>542853704>the post is not about the photoSo don't lead with a twitter screencap if you want the adults to take you seriously.>>542853788>>jobs, savings, and investmentsIf those are all foreign concepts to you then your poverty is a skill issue. Post pics of your brown hands with timestamp and tell us more about your personal finances.
>>542853896diesel, fag. just because you don't use it, doesn't mean it doesn't control your life.
>>542853959Now you're sageing your own thread? LOLYou lost at 4chan today and you'll continue to lose at Internet until you learn to, well, NOT be YOU. And that's impossible.>why won't anybody pay attention to my endless repetitive garbage oh woe is me!
>>542853909any good can be hoarded or flooded on the market to manipulate price. the us dollar was back by the us military, which has been revealed as a clunker rustbucket paper tiger. fuel shortages and famine are coming, and we're not going to escape unscathednot that I expect you to understand, retard faggot
>>542853972now read the fucking post, retard faggot
>>542854031faggot, didn't read your shit.
>>542853909>It was real in my mind.What do you do for work?
>>54285397240T in debt
>>542851078>so does that mean my folks who just bought a house, and will be trying to sell their old house this fall/winter are fucked?if they didn't put a contigency into their buy of their old house selling then they made a conscious choice to double down on being long real estate. If they get fucked they deserve it
>>542854045People see your image you've been using a LOT to concern troll with and don't even read your drivel, can't you see how you created the mess you're in?>>542854071bump
Stock market schmuck crap lines have no effect on me or anyone I knowWhat does is housing, food, and health careStop posting these stupid graphs that have literally not effected me or anyone here since coming out of the womb
>Bread, bots, and circus
>>542854039>TWO MORE WEEKSWhat actions are you taking to prepare to survive this upcoming collapse?
>>542854039>any good can be hoarded or flooded on the market to manipulate price.strawman argument.that's not my argument wrt fiat. fiat is a loop with an input valve. not all goods can be CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR, like ... clipping the edge of a silver coin to resell while retaining the original silver value of the coin ... or printing fiat at the whims of jp morgan mr titanic/olympia
>>542854118faggot, didn't read your shit.
>>542853200The US is paying $3B each day on interest only on the National Debt. Every one of the top 5 US bond holders reduced their positions this year. Norway's Sovereign Wealth fund indicated they are liquidating their $200B of US Debt they hold on their books. Each sale of US Debt increases the yield which in turn sets the rate of the 30yr US mortgage. Nobody is going to buy the debt anymore which is a very large problem because the US has a $2T shortfall each year in the budget which is projected forever.This will start to fall apart in the next few months. To have people buy the debt they have to keep increasing the yield. Right now it is at a 25 yr high. Each 1% rise in yield adds $270B in interest per year. Interest is the 2nd largest expenditure after social security. You can see how this will spiral quickly. Nobody wants the debt, yield rises 1-2%, increasing the interest, which requires more debt to be sold, which increases the yield, which increases the interest, etc etc. Starting next year austerity will be forced. Boomers ain't getting social security, because you can't cut interest payments or you default. You can't cut defense when you are fighting everyone. Boomers ain't getting paid, Medicare and Medicaid are getting cut. The tumble isn't a maybe we are looking at this wrong or another option is available. This becomes a mathematical certainty.
>>542854183I live off grid. I have solar panels, a waterwheel, a spring, guns and lots of stores food/canned goods. I have an acre garden. I have a 500gallon fuel tank of diesel
i'll leave thread with this:the attorney son of the attorney that was behind the '86 crash and was at center of '92 savings and loan senate hearings is doing exactly what his father didnone of you has a fucking clue how any of this works---the fictitious persons brought into existence and the negotiable instruments scams that are central to these engineered cycles of decay and enslavementthe descendants of the british east india co. make a mockery of the american general public but sure post more itt in lieu of hunting these cunts and piking their merchantheads along the post roads
>>542854202What sort of work do you do? How are you positioning yourself to survive this imminent collapse of civilization?I think if you actually believed any of this shit you'd be out doing something IRL not just attention seeking on 4chan at 3 in the afternoon on a Friday.
>>542854011dont care, diesel not important. midsize gasoline work truckI stockpile food and I eat the stockpile already in rotation. I do buy fresh vegetables but if I cant I will grow them instead.My genny is trifuel and I stacked propane.Me? Totally unequivocably unaffected.Fags that drive a truck and a diesel at that for no reason otger than wannabe cool? absolutely devestated.
>>542854313i live off grid, too. with redundancy, including self-contained mobile units not tied to a single fuel source.
>>542854105but if that is your point then post the ratio, but the OP and other retards are incapable of even comprehending the fact that you need to see both to get the full context. so they just repeat "but 40T" after each other like a bunch of morons. instead of posting the correct chart. fucking idiots.
>>542854313I don't suppose you can post pics with timestamp of any of that stuff?On the off chance society doesn't collapse in a couple weeks do you have a job or investments to build real wealth and/or passive income?
>>542850845I've been preparing since at least late 2025.You should have gotten the memo in January when Trump pulled off what he did in Venezuela.
>>542851221Is this zoomed out enough for you?
>>542854259>Interest is the 2nd largest expenditure after social security.*Only because Social Security and Medicare expenditure is reported together.If you split them, Debt interest becomes #1
>>542854338i fucking saved up a fuck ton by eating oatmeal and dollar menu for 20 years, and saving/reinvesting 90 percent of my salary. i left my lucrative engineering position purposefully. I've been preparing directly for 3 years. i never spend more than 1000 in a month, and sometimes i spend nothing.
>>542851709>many people think this is good and it should be higher stillYou dumb nigger, the bond rate is going up is because nobody will buy them at lower rates, which means people do not have faith in the dollar and the US governments ability to pay them back and the real rate of inflation being much higher than what is being reported. Keep lying though, it's all you can do.
>>542854408Pics? Timestamps?
The US government does not need to sell bonds to finance itself. No matter how many times people make this thread, they avoid that obvious and logical conclusion.There is not a single monetary sovereign government on the planet that is borrowing money to finance its operations.The only thing these countries will accept as payment for the bonds that they issue is their own currency -- their own IOU. Because that is the case, the currency necessarily has to exist prior to and independent of bond issuance. It is not operationally possible for the currency issuer to borrow its own currency.
fucking imbeciles
>>542854415if you can't understand that even relatively small increases in the prime rate when combined with massive debt is catastrophic there's nothing for me to say other than: stop eating your crayons
>>542854508nice try, eglin.
retards
>>542854505I'm doing the off grid cabin thing myself...
>>542854435not revealing my location. I make money on dividends and consulting work
>>542854552yup.
>>542854666>dividendssame. but i have half liquid in case it crashes overnight
>>542853600I mean we're not far off...
>>542854552not you. stupid chan x
>>542854507>the bond rate is going up is because nobody will buy them at lower ratesFed's buying them from the Treasury now, out of their own profits (the debt). Did you know that? Trump did this during his first term too. It's like the banker who owns your mortgage paying it off, taking you out to dinner, and apologizing for being a usurer.And we're cranking the rates primarily to soften the blow when the stock market crashes globally and contracts. If we can get people to move to bonds before that happens, because bonds suddenly became more attractive than the stock market, we're sitting pretty.This is all totally fake money, bearing in mind. And with ZIRP companies didn't even have to make money, they just kept borrowing and hiring because getting new employees is "growth" as far as the money Jews are concerned.
>>542854818faaaaaag, saved another iq point by not reading your shit.
>>542854817so you are confirmed retarded. that tracks, OP lol
>>542854881you're a fag, too. actually you might be ip-fagging. your cadence sounds like the other fag here
>>542854541Yes and the US government prints dollars to purchase the bonds to sell
>>542850845Im outside enjoying a passing rain shower.
>>542854541>No matter how many times people make this threadthis thread, MY THREAD, is not about rates. you fags just look at pictures and don't read anymore.Post on topic.
>>542854552What this looks like anon is that the US can't raise interest rates to 13% or whatever again to control inflation without an insane percentage of GDP going to interest payments.
>>542850964Except prices aren't going down. It goes from expensive to unaffordable.
>>542854933if I were to plot the level of your retardation after your every post, it would track our national debt.
>>542855038quite a pickle isn't it?now do you have anything to say about the actual topic of this thread? which is people ignoring EVERYTHING, not just rates?
>>542855100>mental filter: 6GW...>disregardfaaaaag, didn't read this shit.
>>542854818>Fed's buying them from the Treasury now, out of their own profits (the debt). Did you know that?Yea, $4B a year.WOW!CRISIS AVERTED!
>>542854861I see you're very keen to reply to other people's charts which they purport (but never explain) spells impending doom. It might be you on your phone, lol.As I said from the start, nobody's buying your bullshit. Your entire thread was created because you wanted to blogpost and cry about... I don't even know. How you don't understand the bread and circuses control mechanisms used probably since the dawn of civilization? You're fuckin' dull as hell there my fellow beer-swilling, male, white, rural, large truck driving farmer comrade!Heck I went in for a haircut and shave at the local tonsorial and the other locals, the gun shop owner, the chainsaw repairman, and the cattle rancher, were in there and the barber said "Dang Trump for affordability and increasing bond rates!" And everybody in the shop was nodding. Then the chainsaw repair man said, ripping into a beer (1 free with every haircut), that he didn't think Trump should have attacked the Pope of Iran. MMM hmmm, everybody nodded. Nobody was talking about football at all, just Iran and the current ten year bond yields.
>>542854818>Fed's buying them from the Treasury now, out of their own profitsthe fed is functionally insolvent. Technically it can't be because it can print, but by any generally acceptable accounting standard it is insolvent. It used to make remittances to the treasury based off it's profits.
>>542855189faaaag. insta ignore. i am once again not reading your shit. you must like talking to yourself.
>>542855129Yeah it does appear there's a coordinated effort likely both state directed and organically individually enforced (due to programming), to ignore the shitshow. "This_is_fine.jpg", basically.
>>542850845you guys think the Broncos will turn it around this weekend against the Jax Faguars? their first display this season against the Queefs was a pretty alarming and poor performance.
>>542855296i think that shid but only if they choose to fard
>>542852128If you’re liquid, you’ll be set. House prices will have to drop if people have any hope of selling. Even large property owning firms are subject to lending costs so they won’t be able to buy a dump of a house at 15% interest.That being said, 15% interest will never happen because of the national debt.
>>542855208forgot my pic, kekerino
>>542854541You know that is how it is supposed to work. Treasury technically conjures the money from thin air, but the other side of the equation is eventually selling the debt in the form of a 30yr bond. The money brought into circulation should have a corresponding debt obligation in the form of a bond. If they do just print without the associated debt, they a technically debasing their own currency.
>>542855249>This_is_fine.jpgif, after covid, people still didn't see the looming disaster, there's nothing that can be done. they deserve it
>>542854505So you've had a career in engineering for 20 years and invested heavily for that long? What did you invest in? Just 1000 a month into the S&P for the past 20 years = over 800,000 right now. You're not telling us something.>>542854666>No pics with timestamp.LARP confirmed
>>542851221I don't think you realize how deep in shit we are
>>542855440I am under no obligation to jump through your hoop, faggot
>>542850964fpbp
>>542855296>you guys think the Broncos will turn it around this weekend against the Jax Faguars? their first display this season against the Queefs was a pretty alarming and poor performance.Honestly, it makes me really sad. I traveled all around the midwest and south... It became obvious to me their lives are kinds... meaningless, especially living in flat farmland. The only thing to do is go to some roller coaster in ohio, go to the game, go to the bar, get drunk and call their friends and family drunk, and drive drunk. I think there's a giant hidden depression (mood) in most of the us, that's masked by superficial stuff.not saying bay area fags are any better
Wait a second, what if we just printed our own currency instead of borrowing it all at interest?I bet that would knock down the "debt".
>>542851875No american actually says burgerland. Why are you using a vpn? Shill. Show real flag. Bet its got a blue satanic pentagram on it
>>542855440>Just 1000 a monthno, i invested 90% of my salary. so unless you're assuming mys alary was $1111/month, then you misread.
>>542855545>Can't we just hyperinflate?You might not have a choice lol
>>542855510you're just describing life, anon. it's always been this way.
>>542855688lol, inside the midwest and south maybe.
>>542854313Cool you're a target
>>542855688like India, getting access to fast internet has made midwesterners/corn belters/southerners realize how shit their life actually is, so we're witnessing a grand lashing out.>a cold beer>a dirt road>a pickup truck>highschool sweetheart>another beer>another beer>another beer
>>542855584No shitWhat did you invest in?BTW we are in a bubble
>>542855822>cold beer>pickup truck>highschool sweetheartAll I can get is a cold beer
>>542855983at least you have niggerball on the weekends
Line must go up.
>>542855728you can't keep it together at all, lolwhy aren't people paying attention to your bait? lel
>>542854435Holy shit this cant be real. Who are these alphabet agencies hiring nowadays? This is so low effort its embarrassing. Every other post on every thread glows so bright its unreal.
>>542850964>>542850845Yeah its definitely not the fake fiat currency that we keep in bankrupt banks due to fractional reserve overleveraging LMFAO good one
>>542856077Nah my weekends are anime, video games, range time and saturday gym time
>>542855635>>Can't we just hyperinflate?Isn't that what we already did in 2020, when we doubled the currency supply?I say we just burn the Federal Reserve to the ground and refuse to pay another cent to print our own dollars.>inb4 world reserve statusI don't care. I've never cared. You're not capable of fathoming the degree to which I do not give a shit.
>>542855822>>542855728what is wrong with those things? what do you liberal city faggots have that makes your life so interesting? pierced roasties, shitty concerts and pub crawls? life isn't a hollywood movie. people have families, eat food, shit and sleep. that's about all there is to it. i'd prefer salt of the earth to main character larping faggots that think they're james bond
>>542856287faaag, didn't read your shite
>>542856323>Holy shit this cant be real. Who are these alphabet agencies hiring nowadays? This is so low effort its embarrassing. Every other post on every thread glows so bright its unreal.It's honestly cringe.>Oh wow, anon, show me more pictures of your stash. uwu. it makes me so hard.
>>542856323>Who are these alphabet agencies hiring nowadays?Jeets and black women. I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI started doing shady ransomware shit.>hello sarr to unlock your pc plz wire $1000 usd to the following FBI field office, thankyoucomeagain
>>542856389you're probably not even an americanyou need to learn some new tricks, come at /pol/ and the internet a different way, what you're doing now is actively hurting you but you're too brown to understand why or how, you don't even know what bread and circuses even meansyou built a wall and now you're crying about it lol
graph dick measuring time?graph dick measuring time
>>542856379I moved from an east coast city to the Midwest smaller city and even that has been a huge improvement.>People are way friendlier>Way whiter>Less liberal faggots>Not afraid of guns
>>542856379>if you don't like cuntry musik, you must be liberal city faggotslol, the midwestern mind can't comprehend life outside of the midwest.there are things and places you will never experience. it's not just SF degens outside your little (big) bubble. It ASTONISHED me that some of you fags have literally NEVER seen a mountain, or even been west of the mississippi.Your beer guts disgust me as much as the fags and jeets in SF
>>542855488Cool, my dad works at Nintendo, I'm 6'4" with a 13" cock as big around as a Pringles can.>>542855584I'm saying that even a modest investment of 1000/mo would have you close to 1M net worth right now. How come you're in here claiming the world is going to end because you can't afford gasoline if you've got several million in investments? You should be able to throw your net worth into AAA bonds or blue chips and be living a relatively high standard of living >Something something pretending to not understand.You will never be a real woman.
>>542856370>Isn't that what we already did in 2020, when we doubled the currency supply?Nah, Hyperinflation is even more aggressive.Also the money never really got into the hands of regular people, only briefly with Covid stimulus. But within weeks it went straight to the wealthy and tucked away into the stock market rather than freely circulating.
>>542856603fag, still not reading literally anything past 'aJu3...'
>>542850845Worrying about shit like that is pointless. Nothing you can do will affect the outcome even slightly, and however it is going to affect your life is going to happen regardless. There is no actual benefit to getting all worked up and worried about stuff. If there is some problem in your life that you actually have control over and can fix, then fix it instead of worrying about it.And for all of the other stuff that you don't actually have any control over, it is what it is.Just stop caring.
>>542850845This happened in 2023 as well.What occurred back then?
>>542856685That looks bad, better burn down the Federal Reserve just to be safe.
>>542856664>ow come you're in here claiming the world is going to end>why aren't you i-got-mine-ing?sounds like a boomer attitude that's part of the problem. i'm an idealist realist.why would i care to keep spending more and more above and beyond what anything is worth, just to participate and buy a mcmansion i can literally build myself? i can imagine the entire process... i can imagine finishing and sitting down in my freshly completed empty mcmansion and immediately blowing my brains out. i also know how real it CAN get, and how close we are, which is why I made this post. life is just finding food. life sucks, then you die.
>>542856881>Nothing you can do will affect the outcome even slightly>Just stop caring
>>542856881>Nothing you can do will affect the outcome even slightly,just like the scripted niggerball games
>>542856881>benefityou're not even analyzing the words you're using. you try to jump up to grand ideas, then fall back on a simple concept such as "benefit"define benefit.
>>542856938I'll never understand how America allowed a private company to be their Reserve Bank.
>>542851985That is literally 1970s wallstreet.
>>542854125It will effect you when the money printer halves the value of every dollar you have to service the national debt
>>542851252No, it didn't stop entirely, but it definitely put a damper on things when interest rates were that high. There will always be some people who don't have any choice but to buy or sell regardless of what is happening in the market. There were still people buying and selling through 2008 too.People in the '80s started using a lot of alternate strategies, like assuming the seller's loan to keep the lower interest rate, or getting an ARM for lower initial monthly payments. Seller financing instead of trying to get a loan from the bank, etc.
>>542850845most Americans don't even know what a bond is lol
>>542850845>AMERICANSWhat makes (You) think this solely exclusively only has to do with or affects the United StatesWhen the global debt market implodes so go all 160 nations all 9 billion humans on Earth.
>>542857142It's so unbelievable that Americans do not believe you when you tell them, I've been trying for years.>what? no way it works like that, anon you're crazy>that can't be true, you must misunderstand something>it's very complicated, the people on top know what they're doingIt is maddening.
>>542857142omg samesies.i chalk it up to naivete. they got duped. just imagine how easy it was for regular con-men to take advantage of every-day people's trust and generosity back in the day? think those cheque forgers and fake airline pilots. now scale that up to a 1000x Rothschild-backed endeavor.early us was such that common citizens were SUPPOSED to be allowed and trusted to just walk right into the capitol buildings. we were all equal. until we let in the rats.
>>542857189Wrong.>'literally'Back to plebbit, brainlet.
>>542856881This is true to some extentYou should be instead just getting survival equipment, food, fuel, ammo, guns, medicine, metals, maybe put money away in a money market account, etc.
Diesel was higher under Bush. No outrage. No impending doom. No clown cars.
>>542851413And you have 61 posts in one fucking thread.
>>542850845>5.5% for my money to do nothing
>>542857479Because times were still pretty good in America even with 9/11 and the Patriot Act
>>542856609
>>542850845femini cant express why its guardrails got tripped>>542850964it would be easy to get morning in america, abolish dei>>542851078houses are for living in - communist dictator xi jinping
>>542857386>>what? no way it works like that, anon you're crazy>>that can't be true, you must misunderstand something>>it's very complicated, the people on top know what they're doingI've gotten these exact responses. No research skills left, and certainly no critical thinking skills left. I don't care what you currently believe! I care that you are critically thinking
>>542851627>Is CNN going to draft me for their fake news war in salt land?American men of a certain demographic are deliberately being shut out of the job market to leave them no options but to join the military. This is functionally the same as a draft. Jews are handing all the jobs first to themselves, and then handing the rest to their pet Jeets.
>>542850845the prime rate was 21% in 1980. We're a long way from "the sky is falling"
>>542857527MY THREAD. gtfo
>>542857132>you're not even analyzing the words you're usingWhy would I analyze the words I'm using? You aren't making any kind of coherent or logical argument against anything I said. You are just some kind of doomtard who got emotionally triggered by me pointing out that there isn't actually a logical reason to be a doomer. >define benefit.It's not a complex or unusual word, you ESL shitskin.
>>542851556leveraged buyout: use everyones future productivity to bring in migrants to replace them
>>542851221> bro I have no debt at 10% interest I’m good> bro I’ve maxed out all my credit cards and can’t pay it back, despite rates being lowWhich do you think is better?
>>542857663They're not going to fight for a government that has denied them a nation, people, and family
>>542857690Is your end goal to be... "happy"?Is that what benefit means to you? something that takes you closer to being happy?
>>542855510It’s the simple joys in life that make it worth living, like booze cruising in bumfuckistan
>>542852666>in 5 yearsSatan says; the U.S. Treasury hits total default four years from now at current U.S. Congress spending rates of $2.2 trillion/annum.Global debt market won't last nearly that long
>>542857386People just assume because it's part of the Government and it's called the "Federal Reserve" that it's owned by the United States.
>>542857789>istanbumfuck, USA will certainly turn into an "bumfuckistan" sooner than you think. they are like water. they will find you, your way of life, your dirt road, and destroy it.
>>542857747>>They're not going to fight for a government that has denied them a nation, people, and familya coupla weeks ashore in Thailand with 20k in spending money ought to fix up them rebellious sailors, wouldn't you say?
>>542850845No one cares enough to know what that even is.
>>542857846And then give you a blank stare when you say>what about FedEx?
>>542857974Make it a month in Japan, 100k in spending money, I get to keep my issued rifle, and 40 acres
>>542857686Keep kvetching, kike
>>542857860I tell people they should enjoy white rural high trust America while it still exists because it won’t exist in 20 years
>>542857142The (((idea))) was to shield monetary policy from short-term political pressures.
>>542855774>an Italian with zero freedoms has an opinionMama mia
>>542858171yeah... i'm traveling around and taking them in. they are going fast, hidden gems, good people. back in the day there was a sort of optimism when you entered a small town. you imagined the slow, wonderful growth that would occur. more families. more children. improving the land. now, when you enter a small town, you 100% know it's just a matter of time before it's dead. from nor-cal to the hollers of west-virginia. there is no future, only what is currently there, or lost already.
is it happening?
>>542858171i literally look up updated demographics maps to help decide where i'm going to visit next. one trick i learned is to tolerate the cold. brownies can't handle the cold and stay inside in the shoulder months.
>>542857142>I'll never understand how America allowed a private company to be their Reserve Bank.That's because we didn't, at least not in the sense that you are suggesting. The Federal Reserve is not really a private corporation like Bank of America or Citibank or any other similar bank. The 12 Federal Reserve Banks were individually incorporated and each has their own board of directors and the member commercial banks "own stock" in the district Federal Reserve Bank above them, so it is kind of structured like a private commercial bank, but not really. It's kind of like how a city needs to be legally incorporated to create the legal entity to govern whatever is within the city's boundaries.The Federal Reserve Board is an independent government agency whose members are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. And the Board supervises and regulates the operation of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks.
>>542850845everything is fine....goy
>Ignoring the impending doomWhat do you do? Like actually, what do you do at this point? I'm not gonna work my ass off to "try to survive" or start gambling on alternative assets, I'm just gonna contract inward and not change anything.I suppose probably the best thing I could do is buy another chest freezer and fill it with meat, but I don't know if I have the money for that.
>>542857846That's because it's not actually "owned" by anyone. Commercial banks are required to "own shares" of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks, but that's just the legal mechanism they use to make those banks part of the Federal Reserve System. They can't freely buy or sell those shares, or make a profit from them. The Federal Reserve system itself is controlled by the Fed Board of Governors, who are appointed by the President, just like the people appointed to lead other government agencies.
>>542850845Anyone high IQ and actually understands your chart has accrued a couple thousand ounces of precious metals. Everyone else, including the eglin faggots ITT claiming bond yields don't matter, will eat dirt.
>>542858528I get it but I try not to embrace the pessimism. I’m in the west and most of these communities were established less than 150 years ago. Some of them were one horse towns as recently as the 90s. The material world has always been inconstant and transient just like our lives, the spirit and health of our people matters more than anything else. We can raise strong children, insulated from globohomo. Every true friend I have, all people who have withstood the insanity of modernity. come from a healthy white two parent family who love each other. And really, when you look at the number of us and the education available to us, we are in a better position than ever before.
>>542850845Oh no! Goodness me interest rates are 1% higher than the 4000 year average! Whatever do we do!
>>542850845Nothing ever happens
>>542857775Sorry, but you aren't nearly as smart or clever as you think you are. Whatever kind of argument you think you are making is retarded and irrelevant.You are emotionally invested in being a doomer and worrying about things entirely outside of your control. I have no idea why you are so hung up on such a simple and basic word as "benefit," but it's just a basic and obvious fact there is no logical reason to worry about things like that.I think you just have generalized anxiety disorder and are trying to rationalize your compulsive need to worry.
>>542859242wise words
>>542859469can you not define it as it pertains to your "just don't worry" philosophy?
>>542851875> Your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be goat, they will sleep on your beautiful tower...
>>542857007>life is just finding food. life sucks, then you die.Says the multimillionaire in his prepper bunker. Bet you can't post pics of a white hand with timestamp.
>>542859201
>>542857007Your entire suffering-based ideology is boomer nonsense.>>542859813This.When your whole idea of "life" is that everyone is out to get you and it's LE BAD and LE HARD you might just be brown / jewish.
>>542850845most people, including me, dont understand what this means. Maybe debt payments become larger so other investments (capital or operational) will need to be cut.
>>542853086we should just cancel medicare, social security, military disability gibs. I have never experienced a net benefit to any of those.
>>542859813if one more person in this thread asks for identifying photos, i'm going to cause a bank run by withdrawing all my money today. but seriously, i at least have been doing my part. for instance, it was literally me who started the anti-flock movement. I got rossmann to post about it, and then benn jordan took it from there. so i feel pretty good about at least changing the direction of the surveillance state a tiny bit. >>542859908>suffering-based ideology is boomer nonsensesince when do boomers actively choose to NOT do a "well i got mine"? fuck boomers. the only good boomer is (you thought i was gonna say dead boomer) a humble, giving, skilled, non-naive boomer who knows how to fucking log in to his own email. i'll find somewhere WORTHWHILE to apply my skills and vlaue before i self retire. and no, it's not a kars-4-kids donation.
why as an average consumer should I be unhappy that bond prices are rising? higher payout is good
>>542850964we just need to make sure there are exemptions for gods chosen.
>>542860135>>542860390well, the rates screencap was just an example of SOMETHING people could be and should be posting about, rather than NIGGERBALL and ENTERTAINMENT. my whole complaint here (which glowies and biz shills have somehow taken issue with) is that there's room for that kind of stuff, but it's NOT AT ALL APPROPRIATE to have 100 percent of twitter trends taken up by sports every weekend. there are very serious matters that the world should be educated on, but we waste our comms cycles on NIGGERBALL
>>542850964How is it stagflation when the GDP is going nuclear?
>>542860585>was just an example of SOMETHING people could be and should be posting aboutyou've been making 20 threads per day about it for months>>542860616>muh gdpwages are stagnant for decades compared to inflation, the price of all goods are way up, Larry Fink's contribution to the GDP is enormous yet... he helped to destroy much of the economy even as lines go up, you're hopeless
>>542852666Who cares satan, why should I fear this or you?Christ is King btw
>>542860390>it doesn't matter that the entire budget of the federal government isn't enough to make the interest only payment on the debt, I still get to consooooooooom right?
>>542860725the fed's incompetence will continue whether I get higher payout or not
>>542860701>aJu...fagggot, didn't read a word of your shit
>>542860788lmao, a couple wheelbarrows full of that payout might buy you a loaf at the breadline my guy.
>>542860701Wages have beat inflation every month under Trump.
>>542860869I'm talking about for the last 50 years. Minimum wage should conservatively be $100 an hour if people were to have the purchasing power they did back in the day. A car was 1-2 months at minimum wage. A house a year.
How likely is it the republicans go under 45 senators? Unironically thinking of gambling 100$
>>542853600It's jew confetti. Harder to kill than a cockroach.
>>542850845Shit sucks and we're all probably going to die, what are you going to do about it faggot?>>542851669Niggers and faggots aren't people
>>542862617thanks for the bump
>>542850845>my friends and familyMonke family no doubt.
>>542850845Interesting, have a bump
>>542851221Kek, you btfo him.
>>542851293>your point?>>they lowered rates so boomers could refi and gobble up even bigger houses, and now they're locking the market forever?eventually there will be another opportunity another decade or so
>>542850845nervous knots
>>542860351>Fuck you kid, life is HARD>You EAT SHIT AND DIE>YEEHAW cowboy As if this isn't a massive boomerism.
>>542859201>>542859879What is a Primary Dealer?
Nobody gives a fuck, we're just going to vote out Trump and the Republicans in November. Just hang in there for a few more months. And if all goes to hellier hell, start killing people or get busy living a humiliating slave life under your jewish overlords. It's a choice you make every day.
>>542860869LMFAO
Is the Sky Falling?Chicken Little...
>>542850967>#FursuitFriday
>>542850964The cure to modernity is 1930s-style street violence against faggots, females, and foreigners by committed white patriots with guns.
>>542865510look a radicalizer nigger lol
>>542861618not likely in the slightest. a really good dem turnout will get them maybe 52, if that, so I'd say 48 is the absolute floor
>>542850964Non-biz bro here. I just sell /k/s for goybucks to by more /k/s for impending collapse. Tell it to me like I'm a mongoloid retard - how long until we're wheelbarreling goyshekels around like Weimar? I'm getting fucking bored and certainly not any younger.
>>542850845Ummm silver fags chime in.
>>542866922nobody is buying junk silver. you can barely give it away.
>>542851221>covid bumpLaml
>>542866835Free money ride's ending, you sound awfully Jewish so of course you're angry.
9/21: Yom Kippur9/23: Autumn Equinox9/30: End of Fiscal Year
>>542850845>stock market just keeps going upNothing makes sense.
>>542851449It's "bad" tm because it means that banks are going to have to ask you for an IOU to pay their bills. For a free market, yes, high interest rates are good, they encourage rational investment, risk adverse behavior, highly valued and professional skilled labor... ect ect... But we have been running at low interest rates since 2000.26 years of nonsense gambling and never once has anyone important been called on their bluffs.
>>542850845The U.S. is so absurdly food-secure that if global agriculture ever collapses, America will easily be the last nation standing. yields are just a Jewish trickery.
>>542867904ಠ_ಠ
>>542853600We aren't the ones bragging about not facing any consequences from the wars and financial crises we precipitated
>>542850845Raise taxes to Clinton levels, make miggers pay reparations for Bush and Trump, cut off boomer welfare, and military reforms.
>>542850845OP is both a clueless retard and a fearmongering shill.
>>542868822no u
When do we get 100 dollar bread?
>>542850967>#FursuitFridayThat's why I don't believe that list
>just 18% of america thinks the economy is getting betterI've never heard of a poll so low
>>542850845It's called bread and circuses.
>>542868822read the fucking post, not just the pic, you imbecile>>542868899> 100 dollar breadfyi bread was in the $1 range not too long ago. Now it's itching for $10. that's the same order of magnitude from $10 to $100. it's a slippery slope we're on.>>542868933it's literally a screenshot from twitter US trending 2 seconds before i posted it.>>542868987>It's called bread and circuses.minus the bread part
>>542850845Line go up. It's a good thing.
>>542850964>We're in stagflation, only cure is an '80s style return to high interest ratesRetard. Stagflation means high unemployment and high inflation. Neither are true right now. Gas prices have not affected the broader economy and price growth besides energy remains low.Inflation (CPI growth) with the exclusion of energy is low, unemployment is very low (considered "full" employment), GDP growth is high, consumption spending is high, and real income and real disposable income are disposable high but a little stagnant. The last two are the only measures that are a little lagging but by no means into alarm bells territory.All these metrics are available at:>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/ Any anyone can pull the real data on any economic variable in a couple of clicks. So lying about or misrepresenting the economy is a fool's errand.
>>542869052>Now it's itching for $10. that's the same order of magnitude from $10 to $100Good, so soon?
>>542850845>Putting head in the sand.Tell me about it. I'm stuck with my boomer mom and uncle fundamentalists who buy into all the fox news bullshit.I've tried warning them about various things but they don't want to hear it.
>>542869287I mean... The $50 bill is the new $20 bill. Start demanding more places carry enough cash to break a fifty.Just going by prices of normal things (like school supplies, restaurants, groceries). A 20k car now costs 50k.
>>542869052Your post has no content except muh xitter trending and muh fee fees. I am certainly not reading your 79 posts of shilling that after you began with the false premise that 10 year rates being well below historic averages means impending doom. Proof? Getting sports content in your feed during the first couple of weeks of the NFL season. In other words, KYS you retarded nigger.
>>542869584>79 posts80
>>542869584found the midwestern sports better/day trader/niggerball lover
