Vietnam more decisively due to a lower relative (not absolute) US power projection capacity and due to inevitable heavy Chinese involvement in support of the vietnamese and due to the absence of southern vs northern vietnamese split and due to ammo shortages.
>>542850983The vietnam war was basically a genocide. Nobody has been punished only because amerisharts control the world. There should've been trials and death sentences for that
Vietnam. The modern US public has even less of an appetite for war than back in the 1960s
US would roll VC then leave which would allow the VC to take control of the country again. Its would play the same
>>542850983I'm not sure vietnam actually won it. It was a pyrrhic victory. But I guess americans wouldn't risk a ground invasion today because it is a suicide in the modern political climate. People on here constantly whine about the iran war which is 1000 times less idiotic than sending 200k mobilized troops to fight for 10 years on the other end of the earth
>>542850983wasn't even a war the marines would have gutted them screaming all of them if they got the order
>>542850983>vho would winWho won the first time?
The US would've won easily the first time we used nuclear weapons. I would be in favor of measures that drastic to stop communism.
>>542851332i agree and the US was not holding back dropping more bombs than in Ww2 plus all kinds of chemicals and napalm, executing civvies left and right. Also US jets and helis were superior to anything Vietkong had, we got owned fair and square.
>>542850983just like last time everybody losesprobably be a lot worse on all sidesespecially the french and americans lol
>>542850983wasn't a war, was a gay police actionwe haven't had an all out war where we melt people alive for 80 years
>>542850983AMERICA WON VIETNAMAMERICA ALSO WON IRANWHENS THE NEXT WARNER BROTHERS LEGO MOVIE IRANNYS
>>542851535>winning against a foreign invader>maintaining your independence>pyrrhic victoryWhat do germans even value?
The Cambodian poppy fields are controlled by China. There's no point.
>>542851535>It was a pyrrhic victory.oh yeah, dähmlicher idiot?HOW MANY FUCKING BURGER BASES does fucking Charly-land have and how many are on OUR clay?THAT'S called a fucking VICTORY.
>>542850983China
>>542850983i miss bun cha and bahn mi
>>542851535>I'm not sure vietnam actually won it.Americans had to withdraw and evacuate. desperatly trained more south vietnamese forces and 'left them in charge', also leaving them a fuckton of equipment and vehicleswho then got instantly overrun while the last US personel was still waiting for the evacuation choppers, also leaving thousands of locals who helped them behind to be executed despite guaranteeing their safety, and all of that equipment seized by the north vietnamese (where have we seen that before...)meanwhile in the US public opinion turned so hard against the war and the leadership tried so many dirty jewish tricks to supress this (like the watergate scandal) that people lost their faith in the government leading to the forced resignation of President Richard Nixonthey lost alright, badly.pic related, an evacuation chopper being pushed over the side of a ship to make room for more incoming choppers
>>542850983>stock ontop of shoulderIs that how they do it now?
>>542851332How can net support be a negative percent?
We had/have nuclear bombs and didn't use them. We could have wiped that place back to the sea and everyone knows it. Nobody can ever win a war against us if we go scorched earth, we did it before.
>>542853001Why didn't you? If you did you'd lose even harder as America becomes a pariah state and gets coalitioned, ceasing to exist as an independent state by 1975.
>>542853140>Why didn't you?What does it matter. Everyone knows we can destroy anyone if we want. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen because they had not been bombed and we wanted to show a nice city before and devastation after.
>>542850983Iran
>>542850983dunno ask iran
>>542851535>pyrrhic victoryHow? They got everything they wanted.
>>542850983Vietnam, even easier than last time due to drone tech. Just see how many issues those are causing in Hormuz and Ukraine.
>>542850983Time waster thread. Timewaster board.
>>542852055>>542852117I mean, losing 11:1 isn't exactly winning? Not that I support americans, it's just catastrophic socially and economically.
>>542850983Vietnam.All the usa did was raping, torturing and killing KIDS. (besides raping torturing and murding women) and killing civilians. That's a FACT. Another fact is that after it got leaked the US people changed their opinion against the "brave gi's", the war became unpopular and they had to flee the war because no one wanted to give them any further money for raping infants.In the end north Vietnam invaded the south (the ones profiting and asking for guided civilian rapes and tortures, murder). Regarding all victims of the US, 80percent were civilians, and 60 percent of them kids. The US never got it to attack actual combatants. They were rape brigades and this was a topic at the congress back then. Nowadays, of course, the child rapist Americans are just "vets". Back then a lot got jailed for lifetime, others suicided themself.The viets would win, because you are just a bunch of rapists and can't get a clear mind on the enemy if you have the opportunity to rape kids and mothers or boys, or burn them alive. That's why they would win - while paying a high price.
>>542851332What caused the uptick in support for the Korean war near the end?
>>542853702The thing is the kd ratio was enormous. 60k americans against 1.1m dead vietcong troops
>>542853793They did this in Korea as well. There's a great museum in da Norks we'll all never visit which documents it. Also, obviously, they did it in Japan too.
>>542850983>let me just rest my rifle stock on top of my shoulder while lining up my shot>wow that looks badass, let's grab a promo shot of that!!!!!
>>542850983i guess nowadays the public would not accept muchican rats spraying millions of tons of genetically degenerating pesticides on a rainforst like junglearea bigger than every european country just to have a better chance to see the enemy or carpetbombing more than 3 million people, mostly civilians for literally nothing than a faked attack on one of their little boats on an imperialist mission somewhere 10000 kilometers away from muttland..and china would definetly not let that happen, i mean even back than they intervened, but today they are strong enough to no fear anyone.. they have the most advanced and biggest conventional army in the world, more tanks than america and the next 5-10 allies together, nukes, icbms, ships, advanced planes and an unbelievable fast production plus the control of every ressource nesessary to build all this wargame toys
>>542850983Zoomer marines won't last 3 days in the mosquito infested jungle
>>542850983Afghanistan again... the American occupation regime was more corrupt than that of south vietnam, Americans do not understand the concept of corruption so they dont care, most american proxies show a quite high track record of corruption, South Korea, South Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, even the YPG was mired in corruption.So if the vietnam war happened today It would end in a Socialist Vietnam victory again,the colonial regime of the US would eventually collapse due to corruption, also air war has become extremely expensive.Another thing that would happen is a mass stale-mate much like what is happening in other countries, endless wars no one why we are fighting for an arms industry we do not need.
>>542850983Jews
>>542854216They cannot even fight Oceanside Mexicans.
>>542850983Nobody would fight because nobody would go to war for this.
>>542851259Yes the north vietnamese leadership genocided their own people. Sadly amerisharts were too chickenshit to stop it.
>>542854717>holy shit, a random unarmed guy couldn't fight off 20 armed spics in a surprise attack singlehandedly, mexicans must be really tough!!!!
>>542850983>Vietnam wudImagine the suicide rates with todays music
>>542853933TRVKE(but you guys did it first tho)
>>542850983>lethalnot with the bolt being out of battery lol
>>542853766>I mean, losing 11:1 isn't exactly winning?Except they did fucking win, you fucking idiot. Rome went home and didn't bother them ever again. Stop torturing metaphors, you sick fuck.
>>542853766>MUH K/D RATEFucking Nigger. Go back to USA and leave Europe you fucking mutt.
>>542853853Momentum was more on the UN side and the Chinese had been pushed back from their furthest advance by the time the ceasefire was signed iirc. There may not have gotten the bonus objective of freeing the north, but they accomplished what they initially set out to do in saving the south
>>542850983Hookers and weed dealers
>>542854717lol, imagen when they come to Patagonia.looool
>>542852055>What do germans even value?schiesse porn
>>542850983>vho would winisrael
The only way to win the Vietnam war was to give Southern Vietnam back to Cambodia and build them up militarily.
