Has there even been given an official explanation on why the US has attacked Iran? Genuine question
Bibi told trump to
>>542853091Yeah they actually did admit they attacked entirely for Israel's sake.
>>542853091I look like this
>>542853091The US military officially said they did it for Israel
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>>542853091For freedom of course. Are you some kind of commie to even ask?
>>542853091They don't bother constructing a coherent cover - story anymore like they did with Iraq, Vietnam, Kuwait. Now they just invade for Israel and the (((liberal))) media supports them for it.
>>542853091We've always been at war with Eastasia, or something along those lines. 47 years of this long war with Iran, I believe I remember hearing at one point
>>542853091Epstein files, and the oligarchs are digging doomsday bunkers and are going to nuke the entire world
>>542853091Nothing wrong with bombing rabid imbred pedo bacha bazi zuttsluts. Jews fuck actresses and whores and 16 year sluts, which is fine. These freaks fuck their family members and 5 year old boys. USA and right wing jews should ally against moslem rats and left wing jews.
>>542853091No nukes for hams
>>542853091Yes, dozens, each one less valid than the other.
>>542853091they were enriching uranian beyond what would be civilian use.
>>542854157You're muslim lol
>>542854184uranium*
>>542854211Funnily enough, i'm probably the only non-muslim moroccan on /pol/, christcuck.
>>542853091Yes.Secretary of State Marco Rubio made a comment within the first few days.He essentially said that Israel was planning to strike first, and, in anticipation of an Iranian counterattack on American bases in the region, the US military was ordered to ALSO strike alongside Israel.These early strikes included Israel's assassination of the Ayatollah (considered illegal according to US law) and the American double-tap strike on the Minab school.
>>542853091Because muh nooksJust like how Saddam had all those WMDs
>>542854256So why care about goatfucking bacha bazi terrorist iranians, they deserved each bomb
>>542853390Nah, you looks like a faggot.
>>542853091Blacked wifey covfefe
>>542853091Something about aluminum tubes.
>>542854287>considered illegal according to US lawSince when is it illegal to kill a terrorist? >School duble tap larpNever happened.
>>542854184And bellow what would be military use. Since the US violation of the JCPOA, or rather should i say, since their assassination of Qassem Soleimani, they started incrementally increasing their enrichment rate after each successive attack on their country all while reiterating the fact that they would go back to the 3% agreed on the JCPOA as soon as its stakeholders start honoring the agreement again. So after the Qassem Soleimani killing, they increased it.After the attack on Iranian scientists, they increased it again.After the first Israeli attack on their soil, again, they increased it.After the second again.And so on. And when the war started, they shutdown all IAEA inspections, dug deeper tunnels, and moved all their enrichment capacity underground. Any assessment of what they're doing now is speculative and likely wrong in the same way the assessments on their missile stockpiles were woefully wrong. Here's a joke for you: Iran fired more MRMBs during this war than the US estimate of Chinese MRMB stockpiles.
>>542854352They don't deserve anything that came their way and are arguably the most rational actor foreign policy wise in the region.
>>542853091Iran is 2 weeks away from developing nuclear weapons, the US had to responded to prevent a second Shoahincidentally, they've been 2 weeks away for the last 30 years. ANY TIME NOW ANON, ANY TIME NOW THE MISSILES WILL FLY AND INNOCENT JEWISH BLOOD WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS because you didn't support God, America, Trump and our troops in kicking out the ayatollahs
>>542853390Like a pig???Dude get sober and look again
>>542853091>>542853091> "Iran is not allowed to get a nuclear weapon".... Also> "Rubio says Israel's strike plan triggered US attack on Iran • FRANCE 24 English"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3pL_ZCWPz0
>>542854580Lmao sure the violent death cult of allah is better than america and shouldn't be eradicated to the last goatfucker with dreams of conquest. In your dreams.
>>542854661Exactly THIS! Trump HAD to pullout from the deal that made an Iranian bomb impossible because otherwise, you can't wage a war against evil itself (Iran) to prevent them from getting the nukes!
>>542854743As i said, Iranians are the most rational actors foreign-policy wise of the region, and evidently more so than the US itself. I support decent behavior, not unhinged zealots, be they suicide bombing pedophile worshippers or the likes of you, with all due respect.
>>542854812IndeedAnd to add, Iran's current 'allies', Russia and China, were also on board with the JCPOA.
>>542855065And so was Europe. Didn't Trump threaten the Europeans with secondary sanctions and economic war unless they violate the JCPOA with him? Yes he did!
>>542854887How the fuck is all should bow to allah rational? You're a freak
>>542855352That's not rational, of course. That's also not a depiction of their foreign policy, is it?
>>542853091The official explanation is Israel forced their handWhich doesn't really make sense, because Israel has already completely captured the US political system, no need to force any hands. So it's just a way to sell it to the publicThe real question is why does Israel want to attack Iran now. The answer is that Iran came closer than ever to regime change, and regime change in Iran is the last thing Israel wants
And don't forget Mr. Morocco, the attack followed, within 48 hours or so, of negotiations between the two countries. After which, the Omani mediators said went well.
>>542855593Any policy of a theocratic islamist dictatorship is all should bow to allah. Priests in power. Kek. Get bombed, nigger, I'm not stopping eating pork, and you're dying. No, you can't behead me. No, you can't "revert me". No, taqiya won't work.
>>542855727>The real question is why does Israel want to attack Iran now. The answer is that Iran came closer than ever to regime change, and regime change in Iran is the last thing Israel wantsI don't buy into that either. Everything alludes to them acting in precipitation. Here's the timeline:1/ Israel starts operation Rising Lion, a 12 day war in June 2025 where they make an extensive use of their network of spies in Iran, thus revealing the extent of it. After the initial success of the war, it took a few days to convince Iran to agree to a ceasefire and seize firing missiles.2/ For 8 months on end, Iran accelerated its missile program, the scale of its tunnel complexes, anti-espionage operations and arrests in anticipitation of the inevitable war ahead3/ The last wave of protests happen but manifest unlike any other in Iranian history, even ones that saw a larger number of people take to the streets. Unlike nearly all protests that devolve into mayhem, these ones started violently from the get go rather than starting with marches where people react to abuses from police. There were masked men (agitators) with shotguns shooting at police and destroying shops from day one. Rather than Iran coming closer to regime change than ever, my belief is that Israel's decades long ground work to engineer this situation in Iran was ruined in operation rising lion and this last event was reactive, meaning that Iran must've discovered some insight that compromised a large part of their network and pushed them to leverage whatever remains of it sooner than later. Otherwise, there would be a US carrier at Iran's shores BEFORE unrest starts, not after.
>>542855869>Get bombed, nigger, I'm not stopping eating pork,Good for you, i myself love bacon and it's in sale in this theocratic islamist dictatorship i live in, we can drink a pint of beer and eat some bacon in public places if you ever visit.>No, you can't "revert me"Likewise>No, taqiya won't work.Back to you my friend. Your agitator tactics won't work and you're 2003 grade clash of civilization rethoric either. Iran has been nothing but the most rational and decent actor in terms of middle eastern foreign policy and the behavior of the US govt is shameful.
>>542856355I disagree. The protests were infiltrated to ensure they would go nowhere. Even US neocons chimed in, picrelYour mistake is assuming Israel wants actual regime change in Iran. It doesn't. The ayatollah regime suits it just fine. Keeps its population as well its ME neighbors on edge, and Iran down and retardedRemember zionists and neoconservatives have been secretly in bed with the ayatollahs from the very start
>>542856851>Your mistake is assuming Israel wants actual regime change in Iran. It doesn't. The ayatollah regime suits it just fineI don't. I assume Israel wants to maximize attrition in its vicinity and deligitimize it's neighboring state actors, and if possible, dismantle any functioning institutions. In it's immediate vicinity, the madmaxization can be leveraged as a mean to justify further expansion.In more distant lands like Iran, it's to negate them any ability to step in or do anything about it, including support a shithole's economic reconstruction (what Turkey is doing now in Syria and what worries Israel).So in Iran's case, it's not regime change that they sought and no amount of protest would lead to a regime change. What they seek is not a new regime which can take the lead and build on the pre-existing institutions but prolonged or eternal internal strife. In that sense, the idea was to start with protests, turn them into civil unrest, evolve them into armed uprisings among the minorities, support them from the air, and engineer a situation where the IRGC doesn't disappear but is pinned in internal mayhem, in maximal attrition, and where factions devour one another.
>>542857332>What they seek is not a new regime which can take the lead and build on the pre-existing institutions but prolonged or eternal internal strifeThe Syrian model yes, it's certainly possible but if that was Israel's objective they are uncharacteristically misinformed about Iran, and they failed miserably since not a single armed uprising materialized. Even the old MEK has been pretty tameAll Israel and its amerigolem have achieved instead is actually tighten the ayatollahs and IRGC grip on Iran significantlyIf I combine that fact with what we know about the historically close covert connections between the regime and the neocohens, I can't escape the impression they're actually helping each other out here, just like they did with e.g. Soleimani>no amount of protest would lead to a regime changeI'm not so sure about that. Outsiders tend to underestimate how much the Iranian government relies on consent
>>542858142>The Syrian model yes, it's certainly possible but if that was Israel's objective they are uncharacteristically misinformed about Iran, and they failed miserably since not a single armed uprising materialized. Even the old MEK has been pretty tameYou're right, however, had there been a continuation of the maximum economic pressure policy without turning up the heat through kinetic action (basically the model from 2017 to 2024) all while putting all the chips on espionage and subversive operations, i believe such an outcome was instead likely to happen. It's not that it was outright impossible but that it was misshandled and that the IRGC kept putting them two steps behind everytime they uncovered cells. The fact that there was misalignment between the latest activation of cells right at the start of protests along with kurdish incursions, and the arrival of the US fleet is what makes me almost certain that the Mossad was being reactive. They were planning an arab uprising scenario, yes. However, the hubris that led them to launch Operation RIsing Lion 8 months prior to the war, where they made a full display of the depth of their infiltration led to the IRGC sweeping massive numbers of collaborators, that is a fact. Where i speculate is in my belief that there must've been a massive intel compromise of agents where they had no choice but to take action or lose them (from the israeli perspective), get executed (from the collaborator's perspective). So they improvised what was already planned for later, and this led to masked shotgun who's setting things on fire and shooting at civil servants to accelerate a civil war.
>>542853091They don't even try anymore.
>>542858142>>542858539>masked who's armed with shotguns* setting things on fire and shooting at civil servants to accelerate a civil war.Forgive the terrible english in the comment above, you'll have a hard time reading it.
>>542853091>ramonesuh based?
>>542853091Iran is an abstraction more meaningless to the average Americans life than co-secant or recipricol math. Absolutely no one could articulate how a war with Iran would provide even them most obscure, tangental benefit to an Americans life.. NO ONE. Iran is so unimaginably meaningless and so far from any relevance to an Americans life you could not poll a million of them at random and get a single coherent response out of them to the question of how the "Ayatollah of Iran" does or does not matter to their daily life.. in a world where Americans are most worried about the cost of living, and the general socio-politcal psychosis that is now their daily life, some inexplicable war prosecuted against Iran with this psychotic religious frenzie as if it is Iran with 2 nuclear carriers, 400 jets and unknown amount of submarines outside our international waters absolutely pounding our infrastructure is simply too far into the ludicrous. its simply 'too far'. its insane. and Trump will forever be remembered as the biggest scourge in American political history who catalyzed the end of America as international world power. i cant even imagine what the world is going to look like in 5 years applying ww2-style total-war tactics to every conflict.
>>542859033That's why the war is very much needed. Because others want you to feel concerned about Iran. If 50 years of warmongering about Iran nuking America soon wasn't enough, then surely, a war where they bomb US bases and kill US servicemen will, and if that's not enough, then surely, a sunk US vessel or more dead americans in a groundwar should. At some point, just shaming the critiques by pointing how dishonorable their disrespect of the proud americans Iran killed is.
