Iran having a nuke would save lives

>>542858341
It will end lives

>>542858439
Nukes have been the biggest peacekeepers in the history of the world. Iran wouldn’t use one because it would mean that they would get nuked themselves

>>542858439
If North Korea didn’t have nukes, they would’ve been history by now. US and Israel don’t want Iran to have nukes because then they’ll be forced to stop bombing them.

>>542858536
Yeah but Iran will constantly attack its neighbors in the middle east and you will not have the ability to stop them. They are a theocratic terrorist state. They CANNOT have nuclear weapons.

>>542858770
Israel is a theocratic terrorist state and they haven't nuked anyone
Yet

>>542858770
>theocratic terrorist state
That’s Israel

>>542858536
I LOVE PROXY WARS
I LOVE PROXY WARS

>>542858770
So is Israel. That's why there will be no peace between the two of them.
Better they both have nukes so less shit is started. Just look at India and Pakistan, they always de-escelate (sadly) before they genocide one another.

>>542858951
>>542858987
Yeah and look at them genociding Palestinians and invading lebanon with absolute impunity. That will happen again if Iran gets nukes. They will keep attacking everyone and fund endless terror. Expensive gas is a small price to pay to protect from that.

>nuclear non proliferation
nigger. is it your first day on shitpost duty?

>>542858269
Nuclear non proliferation is just Western imperialism. Why would you listen to a nuclear weapons state telling you not to have nuclear weapons?

>>542859260
Yes why? How do i do better?

>>542858269
Nukes aren't real. So you're cucking yourself with high gas prices for a problem that doesn't exist. Good job, migger.

>>542858770
Then Iran's neighbours should get nukes too. EZPZ. Nukes for everyone

>>542858269
>I think nuclear non proliferation is more important than having cheap fuel.
The US pulled out of all the non-proliferation treaties, tore up the treaty that allowed random inspections of Iranian nuclear facilities, and then murdered a bunch of schoolchildren. Despite Iran's decades-long fatwah against weaponization of fissile material and the uniform agreement of all US intelligence agencies that Iran did not want a nuke.

>>542858770
>Yeah but Iran will constantly attack its neighbors in the middle east
Iran has never started a war. America and Israel are the nations that start wars.

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why you shitheads dont drive glorious mercedes benz with cheap veggie oil...

>telling you since years, now go and suck my dick while im laughin at you!

YES THATS MY CAR and MY PIC

>>542858269
Stop posting with my flag you disgusting jeet piece of shit

>>542859357
it would be funny if Iran did end up making first real nuke because of this

>>542858269

dont talk to to me until you have:
nigger fatigue
punjabi fatigue
kike fatigue
politics fatigue
money fatigue
food fatigue
propaganda fatigue
spic fatigue
general fatigue

>>542858770
>sandniggers killing sandniggers in sandnigger land
and we should care because?

>>542858269

>I think

No one cares Faggpt. Jump off a building.

>>542858770
>Yeah but Iran will constantly attack its neighbors in the middle east and you will not have the ability to stop them. They are a theocratic terrorist state. They CANNOT have nuclear weapons.

Why can't the midwits understand this? Imagine hypersonic missiles tipped with nuclear warheads aimed at europe.

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>>542858269
>I have gas price fatigue
In Singapore?

You could walk across Singapore without getting tired.

>>542858747
You're an idiot. They didn't have nukes for a very long time. Are you forgetting about the Korean war?

>>542859850
>Imagine hypersonic missiles tipped with nuclear warheads aimed at europe.

but enough about jewish made up fantasy

>>542859134
>Yeah and look at them genociding Palestinians and invading lebanon with absolute impunity. That will happen again if Iran gets nukes. They will keep attacking everyone and fund endless terror. Expensive gas is a small price to pay to protect from that.

The kikes haven't genocided anyone. The stupid pally rats were told stay here and you will be bombed. They were given the option to leave. If I warn you ahead of time that hey we're going to tear this building down whether you like it or not. And you stay and die does that mean you were genocided I think not. Anyways fuck Israel and fuck Palestine.

>>542858770
Isn’t that what Israel has been doing for the past 80 years?

>>542859363
Yep. According to their logic this is exactly what needs to happen. Even though it wouldn't solve a goddamn thing. We would still have the same old problems.

>>542860119
It would solve something. Nuclear powers don't go to war with each other.

The Second Amendment logic does work at planetary scale. An armed planet is a polite planet.

>>542860016
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about? We already saw the hypersonic missiles apparently tipped with nothing it is real a year ago. Now imagine those missiles tipped with nukes. Do you think crazy Sharia law Muslims that had such weapons wouldn't use them to their advantage? If you don't believe that or think that way then you are a fucking moron.

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>>542858269
I think nuking Iran would be awesome

>>542858536
they don't care, they believe in the 72 virgins bullshit.
they'd consider all of them dying in a nuclear exchange as martyrdom that sends them directly to Jannah.

>>542860193
Well obviously they definitely do through proxies. And on a one-to-one scale so far you're correct. But I don't think that that's going to hold out for much longer. The whole thing with Israel and Palestine right now. Palestine could have given back all the hostages and none of this war would have ever happened. On the same token Putin could have just nuked the fuck out of Ukraine if you wanted to but he didn't. A lot of wacky shit going on in the world. But the Middle East thing is ridiculous. Iran are a bunch of sore losers. In a just world we would be carpet bombing Tehran right now for their behavior. And I don't know how anybody could compare the government of Iran to the government of israel. One is theocratic the other is democratic. Full stop.

>>542860285
>now imagine those missiles tipped with made up weapons that don't exist

nooks are not real anon-kun

>>542860408
Yep look at New York they voted one of them into power. And he's a literal fucking communist on top of it. Lot of people need to die. A lot of people. Leftism is a fucking mind virus that needs to be fully eradicated.

>>542859876
Almost as if the nigger isn't a Singaporean but some jeet on vpn

>>542860556
>nooks are not real anon-kun

Like I said a lot of people need to fucking die. Go look into the mirror and say that. Go look in the mirror and say nuclear weapons aren't real. And if you can go into the mirror and look yourself in the eye and say that without going ah that's bullshit then you sir need to fucking die. Nuclear weapons are obviously fucking real. If you actually believe that they're not real then you need to jump off a fucking cliff.

>>542858269
>I think nuclear non proliferation is more important than having cheap fuel.
there is only one country in the middle east which has nukes and didn't sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty

hint: it's not iran

>>542860668
first of all, tell whoever is making prompt that they need to fix your vocabulary, it is too AI coded.
second of all, basic observation of the world and use, or lack of thereof, of nooks, proves that they are fake and gay jewish psyop. I can post 350 angles of Beirut explosion yet mystical weapon our geopolitics hinges on is never used, tested and involved in accident, for multiple decades.

>>542858269
Americans were the first to proliferate nuclear weapons under Eisenhower/Dulles.

But we will never know if they actually exist or if its one great lie to deceive the masses. A lie with no evidence.

>>542860498
> I don't think that that's going to hold out for much longer.
MAD, look it up

>The whole thing with Israel and Palestine right now. Palestine could have given back all the hostages and none of this war would have ever happened
Irrelevant since Palestine isn't even a country let alone a nuclear power

>On the same token Putin could have just nuked the fuck out of Ukraine if you wanted to but he didn't.
The Ukrainians shouldn't have given up their nuclear weapons now should they?

>And I don't know how anybody could compare the government of Iran to the government of israel. One is theocratic the other is democratic.
They're both simultaneously democratic and theocratic, actually, but only one is actually genocidal

Anyway, the lesson is clear: nuclear weapons are good for world peace and and more nukes are better. Literally every country in the world should have nukes. Anyone who wants fewer nukes is either incredibly naive or trying to make sure they have all the nukes.

>>542860729
it is very important to note that nooks are fake and that isreal doesn't have Samson option. We should stop maintaining this fantasy that clearly benefits them.
>>542860862
if nooks were real, jewish demons would've used them to kill millions in nuclear hellfire
as this never happened, we can conclude with utmost certainty that nooks are in fact fake and gay

>>542861001
france gave them the tech and the material was stolen from the US... hard to imagine why they would steal nuclear matieral if it was meant for civilian use.
and since they didnt sign the treaty, they dont let nuclear inspectors into the country

I don't have a strong opinion on this topic. I just hate that Trump had to fuck the hornet's nest that is Iran. Now food prices are going to skyrocket and trade routes were severely disrupted. He should be using drone strikes against gangs throughout the Americas instead.

Perhaps with the help of John Nash's ideas of Game Theory, which coincides with the development of such "super weapons", the brand new idea of the "prisoners dilemma" was used to create a fictional weapon that, if everyone believed existed, would prevent future wars. Andrew Dulles may have conspired with the Soviets to propagate this lie in order to create a future world order ruled by the terror of muturally assured destruction. With the help of the media this was used to brainwash generations of boomers into believing that their lives would end tomorrow. This was a very unhealthy way of living life.

This all "magically" ended after the Berlin wall fell. Strange, it's almost as if nuclear weapons fizzled out of existence on that very same day? Oh, now they don't work? Or maybe, they never worked to begin with?

That being said, revealing the lie, as ending the lie is actually quite destructive. It benefits no one, since it will just kick off WW3. Then again, what good is this "supposed" peacetime anyway when everyone is getting screwed over in global trade (perpetual human slavery).

>>542861137
because they can larp that they magic meme weapon so you can't attack them or something.
in either case, myth of nuclear weapons is clearly constantly used to advance globohomo interests, with Cold War being an obvious example, and now you also have Iran, whereas nooks themselves are literally never ever used or misused in any capacity, for multiple decades. I can't say anything definitive as I don't have ability to procure a proof, obviously, however the sheer lack of nooks literally ever beggars belief.
well, i do think "jewish demons never killed millions" is an ironclad proof, but it is also one I can't used out of /pol/ or my family gatherings so

>>542860603
that's just the craziest thing, nobody on the left grasps at all that the Islamists are using them to get themselves in power.
It's Muhammad's playbook from his early days in Medina.
>come in as a religiously persecuted refugee
>begin making converts among the poor minority groups in the city
>get appointed to civil government authority
>make a bunch of deals and act peaceful
>when strong enough, reneg on those deals and turn to violence and caravan robbing
>Mecca takes notice of the caravan robberies
>Muhammad pleads with them for peace
>Mecca accepts
>Muhammad builds his strength up and then breaks the treaty and conquers Mecca
Muslims see this as a blueprint for how to gain power and take out their enemies, using deception (taqiyya) and hudnas (fake peace agreements that they break when they feel strong enough)

>>542861422
they were programmed with white=bad and brown=good for their entire lives, what can you do

>>542858439
It can end important lives which can then save other lives in its place.

>>542860854
Speech to text. I'm on my phone. You can't accept that a white man in America hates kikes hates mud slimes hell I fucking hate Catholics too. They all worship the same fake ass Jew god. Yet I am not an atheist. I believe in god. Can you believe that? I just blew your fucking mind didn't i. You can't fit me into a category. AI my fucking ass. If you think I would actually take the time to type something out to some rando on the internet you're crazy

>>542858269
The kikes will set off a dirty bomb in Gaza and blame the Iranians then proceed to nuke Tehran

>>542860603
How do I know you're some sort of capital owner or landlord?

>>542860965
Yes agreed but even if every country had a fucking nuke even goddamn Nigeria. They're still going to be wars we will still fight each other. It's not an be all end all.

>>542860556
yeah I'm sure all that test footage was made by CGI in the 40's and 50's

>>542861605
I'm poor as fuck LOL. Just because you're poor or don't make a lot of money doesn't mean you can't have common sense. Once you grow up a little bit you'll understand what the value of hard work is. Communism won't work and never will work. The only thing that happens when Communists take power is all the poor people die tens of millions of them.

>>542858269
The funny thing is that as a Democrat I agree, but ironically Trump himself was the one to repeal the Iran Nuclear deal guaranteeing precisely this during his first term, and now he can’t re-negotiate another one because the last time Iran took a nuclear deal the U.S. went back on its word and bombed them.

It’s because of Trump and Trump alone that the U.S. has lost the credibility to negotiate a peace deal where it could have less than 10 years ago. If Iran is going to be kept away from nukes, it’s going to require a peace deal guaranteed by other non-American countries as well, not just the word of the U.S. If only the U.S. had European allies to ask for help which weren’t feuding over tariffs…

>>542861654
ignoring how you immediately have to go back into abyss of history to uphold the fantasy, you can have big explosions without nooks. I mentioned Beirut already. The fantasy of nooks is not that big explosions are impossible, the fantasy is that you can miniaturize them and put them on a rocket.
So yeah you can spend arbitrary amount of time collecting chems to make a big boom and film that and have retards like you think it means shit. Yet you can't post a single of instance of a rocket going down and making a boom, which is what a nook is. Tens of thousand of rockets, dozens of wars, retards like India or Pakistan supposedly having these magic weapons. 0 nooks.

>>542861626
Well, no, there won't be wars if everyone has nukes. Nobody wants to get vaporized. People will just have to be a bit more reasonable.

>>542861001
If they were real they would have already been used on a massive scale. WW1 and WW2 have already demonstrated the lack of compassion on the part of the allied and axis powers (the current owners of these "nooks").

Russia would have used them already at this point in Ukraine. America would have used them in Iraq and Afghanistan on 9/11. Don't tell me any of these powers have changed at all, because humanity has been itself since the dawn of civilization.

The "neutron bomb" is problematic, it doesn't damage infrastructure, and it produces no fallout. If such a hypothetical weapon existed it would be used as soon as it was developed. Why are we taught these things exist, aren't they supposed to be "Top Sekrit tech". What's better than having your own race inherit the Earth. There would be no Africans, Indians or Chinese to worry about?

And here we are, living with billions of niggers, chinks, mudslimes, spics and jeets. That is proof enough that nuclear weapons are fake as they would have already been used to rid the world of these lesser races.

>>542861654
No, but there was a fascination with giant ants and spiders. The special effects of the 40s and 50s had a great deal of "enlarging small things to make them look scary" going on. I guess someone at langley put 2 and 2 together and said "wait, if we did the same thing to explosions we could do away with the idea of war completely! Brilliant, we'll just live in terror for the rest of our lives so we can have decades of peace!"

>>542860854
the beirut explosion lacks the characteristics of a nuclear detonation (the milisecond flash, caused by an xray burst heating the atmosphere hot enough to make it glow briefly), the blast wave expands at the same rate as the light from the explosion. Nuclear detonations the light is instant, and then the slower blast wave follows.

TNT no matter how much you stack it up is bound from the energy of chemical bonds you're breaking, it does not get hot enough to cause the atmosphere to go instantly incandescent, nor does it get hot enough to create trinite glass.

Now there is scary technology out there, don't get me wrong. The "C", "B", and "R" of the CBRN acronym are real threats. However "N" is not something that can be scientifically proved in a lab, and if one had the money for such a lab (good luck making one) they would be prevented from being able to independently confirm the fact that nukes are fake.

This may also be why rogue states are prevented from having their own programs. If one of them finds out about the lie they'll tell everyone, because everyone who is in on it knows it's not real.

And this is why North Koreans get free food and supplies. It's a bribe to shut them up.

>>542862288
its not about peace, it is about having an opponent. Why would you, an american, give a shit about some goatfucker halfway around the world? But if that goatfucker can make magic weapon out of sand, that destroys the cities and poisons the land and kills technology and creates eternal winter and more random shit, then you have to pay taxes to your pedo politicians so they protect you against people who would never land an army in america.

>>542858269
I don't care about gas prices.

>>542862531
Those are some nice statements, can you back them up with any evidence that you've been able to confirm yourself in your lab (if you have one)? You don't? What makes you or I qualified to talk about this subject then? Why did they intend EVERYONE ON THE PLANET to know this?

If some technology gave you the powers of a living God, you'd keep your mouth shut about it. This would be the logical thing to do if and when you'd discover something like this. It would remain a state secret.

>>542862031
it's not just a "big explosion" as I pointed out in my other post.
TNT does not generate enough heat to do what even the smallest nuclear detonations can do like the Davy Crockett.

>>542862610
Peace is boring, it's just stagnation. War is justified solely on the basis that it gives men a reason to exist, to fight and to thrive. False flags are necessary to reform group cohesion against a threat, a scapegoat.

Without these big lies we would go nowhere as a civilization. We would stagnate like China, a civilization who's central premise is to do nothing.

>>542862531
>>542862766
you are not addressing my actual point. As I said, the fantasy is not boom, but the rocket. You could have nuclear explosion be real(im not even contesting this, although I wouldn't be surprised if it was fake either) and nuclear weapons be fake because they never managed to miniaturize tech to fit in on a rocket.
This is also besides the point of nooks, observably, never ever being used or involved in any kind of accident for eight decades. This is very notable in light of Beirut explosion, which just randomly happened, having 350 different angles of it filmed, and yet for our most important weapon you need to go 80 years in past to find something? Come on.

>I think nuclear non proliferation is more important than having cheap fuel.
I don't. Gibs me that.

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>>542858269
you lost tranny

>>542862736
there's nuclear test footage all over the internet from the 1940's and 50's, you can see in all of them, a brief intense flash at the beginning of the detonation, the fireball becomes visible after (what is called a double flash, the second flash being the growing fireball after the atmosphere can be seen through again)

Non nuclear (Beirut), 1.1kiloton equivalent blast:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Vb8EXpZb7P4

Nuclear (Operation Buster-Jangle, "Sugar" shot 1951), 1.2kiloton equivalent blast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZjWFpbGQmk
note the intense flash that fades back into the fireball (as the air cools down).. BEFORE the blast wave starts expanding

you can look up trinitite glass yourself, it's radioactive and contains specific fission product isotopes that can even be used to trace where the bomb came from.

>>542863044
actually that's one of the main reasons to use a nuclear weapon, because the amount of material required for that large explosion is much smaller than any conventional weapon, we ARE limited by throw weight for conventional explosions, the largest warheads we can put on conventional missiles is like 2200 pounds (the SCUD), but a more practical missile that we use is the ATACMS which is about a 500 pound warhead.... which is actually kind of a neat size because it's close to the W87 warhead put on minuteman missiles.

the ATACMS warhead has a yield of 0.25 tons of TNT
the W87 warhead has a yield of 300,000 tons of TNT
This is exactly why for strategic missiles we don't even really bother with conventional warheads, only nuclear. We'll put conventional weapons on TACTICAL weapons that only have to go a few hundred miles tops, but not on an ICBM.

A plutonium pit is only about 7 pounds.

>>542863044
>>542864662
as for footage, they banned atmospheric testing in 1962 because the radioactive fallout was becoming a problem, dental records of children born in the 1950's in some locations of the US have measurable levels of strontium 90 in their teeth.

They're not used because the very forces that make them so efficient.. are also fucking toxic and cause toxic fallout over much wider areas than the intended target itself.
So yeah, great weapon in short term, long term, too hazardous to use in almost every scenario.
Iran might be the one place we could use one because of its mountainous terrain causing most fallout to rain out on its own mountains, and they're actively pursuing nuclear weapons themselves, and a ground invasion would cost thousands of casualties today.. so it's the perfect setup just like the one time nuclear weapons WERE used in war:
To avoid a costly ground invasion of an enemy that wouldn't surrender otherwise.

if we do use them Ukraine will probably get nuked too though unfortunately, as Russia has been doing the costly ground invasion and not making much progress. Once the nuclear taboo gets broken Russia will go ahead and wrap this invasion up in a couple of destroyed cities.