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Day 1,669 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research

▶Latest
> The Third Army Corps paralyzed the Russian elite unit "Rubicon" in Lyman
>Ukraine reveals 'Operation Vivaldi' counterattack near Lyman
>In Rostov - the destruction of an An-12 aircraft, two An-26s, and three more helicopters
>US House passes Graham's Russia sanctions bill
>Belarus reactivates signal relays
>Ukraine repatriates bodies of 252 fallen citizens
>Two S-400 launchers struck in Bryansk
>Yaroslavl oil refinery struck again
>Russian general Grunis killed weeks after being awarded Hero of Russia
>Russian general Milchakov killed in August drone strike
>In 2026, a Russian refinery was hit by drones on average every three days t. IEA
>World’s First Naval Drone Duel: Ukrainian Victory
>Strike Destroys Molniya Drone Production Facility and Fuel Tanks at Taganrog Airfield
>Russian Drone Strike Narrowly Misses Boris Johnson, Carl Bildt and Ex-CIA Chief David Petraeus
>Of russian casualties "around 60 per cent are killed in action" t. Oleh Ivashchenko
>Ukraine hits refineries in Russia's Krasnodar Krai and Tatarstan
>Trump begs Zelensky to stop striking Russian refineries
>Ukrainian drones hit critical russian plants more than 3,000 km away
>1,5 million dead/maimed rusniggers

▶Telegram
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t.me/ukr_pics
▶Intel
t.me/DeepStateUA
t.me/DroneBomber
t.me/Exilenova_Plus
odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)
ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)
▶Maps
deepstatemap.live/en
liveuamap.com/en
▶russian confirmed KIA
hochuvernut.com
200.zona.media/
poteru.net/en/
▶An illustrative article for understanding the "kill zone" in Ukraine's front lines
reuters.com/graphics/UKRAINE-CRISIS/KILL-ZONE/znpnojmknvl/
▶/uhg/-approved vidya
deepstatemap.live/arcade/
▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)
TOURS 1-4: files.catbox.moe/19avc9.zip
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TZD
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>We are fighting for the White race in Europe senior
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>>542865260
I believe some more of those might be fried before morning. The arrows indicate it.
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i hate ziggers and black people
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>>542865297
Shouldn't you be fighting for Israel in Iran soon?
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Time to hit parked airliners soon. How many more years am I gonna have to wait?
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>Donetsk is just awf-ACK
Why are the russian occupiers like this? Do they have no awareness, self- or otherwise?
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>Formal application to Joint Expeditionary Force announced during Carney's U.K. visit
Are we going to club ziggers in the arctic like seals? Also I realise that this is a very Protestant gathering aside from Lithuania. We should get the Germans and especially the Swiss to join too. Could name operations after Calvin, Cranmer, Luther et cetera
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patriots.win is awesome.
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Ziggers getting angsty
Their eastern flank is exposed
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>>542865930
Such a garbage country. I'd be willing to die for the right to say that a place or a person is shit. What did they threaten to do to her, kill her baby? TZD goddammit
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Reminder that traitors always die a traitor's death.
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> The Third Army Corps paralyzed the Russian elite unit "Rubicon" in Lyman
QRD?
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>>542865930
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>>542865297
With saviors of the white race like this, I needn't ever worry.
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>>542865930
>subtitles by garashenko

You might as well ask for translations directly from ukie-finn.
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>>542867022
You're a jeet. Why would you?
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>>542866655
can anyone answer this? fuck this general has been dead lately during burger hours. who catalog is slow as fuck now. all the shitskin spam has made it so uninteresting...
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>>542867105
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>>542867299
Ziggers have been getting their shit pushed in in the Lyman direction. Ukraine has been very tight lipped, but zigger sources seem to confirm
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>>542867412
Yeah I know that but I was specifically asking about the claim made in the greentext about Rubicon. I don't know what it means.
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>>542867266
Dude, I'm just so happy that we Americans have the greatest army in the world to protect us. How would I even live if these guys weren't fighting muzzie TERRORISTS in the middle east?????
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>>542866298
Gulag, debt, rape, beatings. This is what happens when your neighbors don't give a fuck what the government does to you
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>>542866655
I just grab headlines or leads in articles and put them in the OP. Searching them should net you articles on the story.
https://unn.ua/news/zalyshaly-pozytsii-kydaly-maino-tretii-korpus-biletskoho-paralizuvav-elitnyi-pidrozdil-rf-rubikon
https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2026/09/18/8054081/
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>trumps brown army.jpeg
>post navy personal
Lmaoo very american post.
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>>542867594
Post milk
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>>542867105
Yeah I'm sure she was expressing her unadultered adolation for monke and the Bombass, while wlaking home with her child from a doctor's appointment through streets with craters in a village that looks like it just had a super aids outbreak.
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>>542867877
Tomato, tomato. How about I just call them zogbots.
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>>542868334
Ah, a spamming brown nigger
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>>542868367
What's the point of spamming anti migger shit in a thread about Ukraine? Trump is a Putin ally, everyone is fine with him being dunked on.
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Ukraine?
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>>542868504
>Trump is a Putin ally,
Is Putin aware of this? LOL.
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>>542868504
Thirdie mentality. There is no plurality in shitholes. All legitimatecy flows from dear leader
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Holy meltie. Did someone blow up a ammo storage or maybe another command post?
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the world would be utopian if jews didnt pretend to be ukranian, british, russian and now polish kek. We didn't have these stupid wars cause of them. No lgbt trannys no marxist slopcore probably colonize galaxy by now.

27k dead monthly lmao
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>>542868571
Trump wishes I guess ? He is a man who notoriously "fell in love" with Kim Jung Un, so maybe he has a similar one sided crush for the senile KGB paper pusher.
Anyway fuck Trump and fuck miggers.
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>>542868571
He (Putin) is pretty well aware of that and /uhg/ is pretty PRO-Biden and ANTI-Trump.
Or maybe you a mistake shilling in a wrong general, please check with your supervisor on what your assignment are.
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>>542868909
our national animal is the bald eagle babushka
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>>542868909
kek.
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>542868523
Wrong general
>>/pig/
There is the nothingburger general
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>>542868909
Is that a lover scorn anon? Are you big mad after the break up? She's not coming back
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>>542868909
KEKAROOOOOOO (it's actually quite sad though)
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>>542868395
It's spamming in a wrong general too KEK
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>>542868909
Who's a good Ukraine?? Yes you are! YES YOU ARE! Here, have a piece of zigger. GOOD BOY!!
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>>542869046
Hey Bhai, I hope you understand Sarnami since I can't into Hindi.
Seems like you are using the right spam folder now.
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>>542869288
Ukraine is more akin to my pet goldfish that died four days after I got him because he refused to eat.
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>>542869303
>since I can't into Hindi.
Isn't Saranami derived from Hindi? Similar to the relationship between Afrikaans and Dutch. I'm genuinely asking.
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>>542869346
Russia still hasn't beaten a dead goldfish?

Inb4 "Russia already won 10 years ago"
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Russia is rightful Swedish clay
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>>542869499
SAAAAR no not like that now we know you are Bharatiya
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>>542869499
>Isn't Saranami derived from Hindi?
Saaaar! please.
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>>542870191
Answer the question, Sanjay.
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>>542867466
>Do like stalin burn everything down and move back the urals.
>that will still discipline on the new meat
Fortresss ziggeria when?
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Dare I say... dead general?
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>>542865209
As an Indonesian you should love Russia.
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>>542870972
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>>542870972
I wonder when the last time we killed a general was. Like 2-3 days ago?
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>>542870306
>left on read
Turns out nobody likes you...
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Are ya winning banderites? LO L
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More orcs headed to Georgia
https://youtu.be/A9CVsMmORIc
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>>542872357
>Are ya winning banderites? LO L
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>>542865260
Public satellites are so good now, it's crazy
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>>542866655
Mirin digits, very nice
Looks like there were a lot of strikes against rubicon units, either as part of the Vivaldi operation, or as enablers for it, and the rubicon units have pulled out of the sector
>The [Third Army Corps] fighters disabled the Rubicon control system: they destroyed its logistics, ammunition depots, drone take-off points, newly created units, as well as experienced UAV operators. The [pidorussians] lost the ability to quickly replenish the unit with resources and trained personnel.
>Losing personnel and equipment and not being able to deploy through Ukrainian electronic warfare and air defense, the enemy began to leave positions, abandoning property. In order to preserve what was left of the unit, the [pidorussian] command decided to transfer the "Rubicon" to another direction.
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>>542866655
See points as mentioned + fiber optic shortage.

The AI datacenter build-out madness along with Wildberries burning meant that a practical source for EW resistant drones disappeared though much of Ukraine's northern Lyman offensive actions for RU forces.
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I knew this would happen.
Fire two flares at a Danish Helicopter in international airspace. Get $276 milion bonus for TZD a week later.

Expensive flares...
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tzd and that
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>>542873768
Those gay little ribbons the captain got for blowing his flares sure seem worth it lmao
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>>542869046
>>542872357
>2 more aislops
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Zelensky here. Tonight, tonight will be a special night tonight 3 Tyrone`s will enter my ass here in the bunker as all the idiots over here keep killing each other. Having Tyrone fuck you in the ass makes far more happiness than these thugs over here killing each other. Fuck savages. Zelensky
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>>542866635
I heard he got out
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2.8 billion in weapon sales to Ukraine
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>>542865930
>Thank you for your apology, you may now sincerely and of your own will vote for the candidate we tell you to while the masked man with an AK watches over you
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>>542874498
And the next Danish scout helicopter carries a magnetic sea mine.
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>>542874684
THIS is the guy raping russia? jesus christ how embarrassing
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>>542877212
Sadly European countries are not based enough to strike at Russia directly.
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>>542865328
>i hate ziggers and black people

That's nice. Im not sure anyone will buy your larp, but everyone already knows you're the face of western decline.
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>>542877818
>Sadly European countries are not based enough to strike at Russia directly.

Europe demilitarized themselves in ukraine. There is nothing to strike Russia with.
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Trannies,

Were you aware that Farmcraft101 released a new video today?

>Making A Custom Generator, Part 2. Rewinding The Stator.
https://youtu.be/69JASnj4vHI
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Tzd
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Does anyone know the total doller amount Zewlensky needs to defeat Ruzzia maybe the Euoreos could cut one final cheque so everyone can quit hearing about it.
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>>542878481
About tree fitty
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>>542878481
A couple weeks ago, the Rat King stated ukraine needed 5% of all of our stuff just to survive this winter.

I dont think ukraine is worth it.
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>>542874582
>Ai slop

Thousands of videos of men being beaten and stuffed into vans and all ukraine has is some gay shit in response

No its time you stop being a retard and open your eyes to the genocide being committed against your own people.
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>>542878704
He needs 5% if my porn too? Jesus
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>>542879256
>the genocide being committed against your own people.
I think he knows russia is killing them
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>pidor cope spam
Syzran & Saratov refinery status, xisterz?
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>>542865112
TZD
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>>542879296
Fucking retard. Russia was ruled by jews and Ukraine blame shit like holodomor on ethnic Russians. You are so fucking dumb.
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>>542879602
So Russians aren't bombing them?
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>>542879674
No. They arent retard
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>>542879726
Oh cool. Guess the wars over. YAY!!!!
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I fucking hate ziggers so much it's unreal
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TZD
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>>542879752
War is over but the slaughter has begun. You can blame this stupid foreign government in ukraine that hides and distorts facts from reality
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>>542879602
>jews
>ethnic Russians

synonyms
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>>542879905
>le hidden facts

what about memoryhooled ones
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>>542865112

When will the uraine stop coping?
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>>542879947
Okay Galacian escaper of Ukraine. Reminder that your probably closer to some turko-pole then your are of a Ukrainian.
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>>542879905
Oh? Who's slaughtering them?
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>>542880078
t. kosher turkmongol
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>Slavic Ukraine
VS
>Judeo-bolshevistic Muttlandia
which way, white man?
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>>542880045
>putins mother was not a jew
>JAO in the far east was made to keep soviet jews as far away from moscow and power as possible
>pale of settlement was inside present day Ukraine and Poland borders and was meant as an exclusion zone for jews by the czars to keep them out of russias interior
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>>542880243
hypercope
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what's with this bizarre shillwave of "pls no war with russia :(" going on online now, did the ziggers get activated to try and scare the wect or something
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>rosian jews are literally ok bro, it's only the westkikes that are bad bro, ours only suck bleeding baby dicks to help russia bro
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>>542868571
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>>542880436
>what's with this bizarre shillwave of "pls no war with russia :("

whats with you trannies demanding other people die in a war to kill your "enemies."

Russia isnt even your enemy. The TV News Lesbian told you to hate the Russians, and you obeyed.

The fact of the matter is that you are promoting a war despite expecting to play no part in it. You want others to die so you can run your mouth online.
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>>542880436
What else can they do the 2 day war is turned into Rusha imploding
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>>542880722
>what if I simply believe the opposite of the truth

Duginism is fantastic
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>>542865112

So, it happened AGAIN. We can blame benzine shortages, we can blame the anglo-saxons, we can praise the effort from the Khokols but the truth is it's simply not enough. Dedovshchina, metodichka, kompromat you name it, it all stinks.

Don't get me wrong, I still have full faith in Putin and the lads, but MASSIVE reinforcements are desperately needed in the September Mass Mobilization Window. Otherwise I'm not very optimistic about this special military operation, or our chances to conquer geyrope for that matter. Not fighting like this. What do you think, /chug/? #SHOIGUIN or #SHOIGUOUT?

Some helpful links to numb the pain:
https://ci-ic.net/
https://tsmatch.com/trans/
https://transgerdensurgerybyneda.com/top-surgery-istanbul-the-ultimate-guide-to-gender-affirming-surgery-in-turkey/
https://russiahiringindia.com/
https://www.sovietmilitarystuff.com/
https://www.alahadgrouppakistan.com/recruitment-agency-in-pakistan-for-russia/
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TZD
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>>542880779
>what if I simply believe the opposite of the truth

you're projecting in the most shameless way possible.

its a lack of self awareness that led you to post this.
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>>542880779
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>>542880768
more projection
I have hated Russians since I started reading history, practically as soon as I had the intellectual capacity to hate, my hate set onto the Russia like a compass onto the north pole
you, on the other hand, are 2022 newtrannies
Duginist Eurasia nazbol drivel is kosher kikery and unwelcome here, simple as
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The most fucked up thing about Dugin - he was an open homosexual-esoteric-SS fan back in 1980s, people know about it but for some reasons they don't give a damn anymore about it.
Imagine dude who was fucked by half of Moscow in the ass telling you about christianity and moral 40 years later.

https://www.sovsekretno.ru/articles/obshchestvo/tri-bogatyrya-v-forme-waffen-ss/

Pasta 1/2
>In "Memory" of the late 1980s and early 1990s. flashed another, now very famous, character - Alexander Gelievich Dugin. However, I first saw him much earlier - around 1984, in a suspicious bohemian-dissident apartment. He spoke about initiation and esotericism, looking with loving eyes at my brutal comrade. I also remember his then wife Debryanskaya, who is now an “arch-lesbian” of the Russian Federation and almost the head of the Transgender Libertarian Party. Later I saw their joint son, whom he called Arthur, and she, it seems, Vasya, and the child twitched in different directions, not knowing how to react. However, why be surprised at the current pseudo-musician Artur Dugin, he is an ordinary drug addict and homosexual, quite popular in the gay community, a bohemian scum. A worthy fruit of two degenerates. But this is so, nonsense. In the late 1980s. Alexander Dugin appeared, accompanied by Dzhemal, at the Zelinskys' apartment and behaved badly: drunk or smelly freaks felt each other's causal places and proclaimed the need for "solar initiation." What this means, I was already aware - blowjob. Here is such an "esoteric alchemy"!
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>>542880920
2/2
>No one hid then that Evgeny Golovin “dedicated” them all. Good "new universities"! It is clear what they taught there! But before the "Memory" Dugin was trained to be a "democrat", but things did not go well, because other Komsomol goats were enough. "Right" were required; and, indeed, Dugin's "conspiracy" articles in The Day were a clear alternative to Jewish patriotism. Then there was the Federal Tax Service, the Bunker gay club, and finally the ECM. There is no way to describe all this abomination. We know very well and in detail about all the movements of this subject.
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>>542880920
they only remember things when they benefit rosia, please understand
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>>542880436
probably. Realistically, they have no fuel for such a war. Like, sure, for Putin a neverending war is desirable, but doubt they'll do much.

my wild guess is that they will re-open the Belarus -Kyiv front after the Russian elections.
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>>542880984
Russia is winning the war. Russia will continue to win the war. Russia has already won the war.
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>>542865687
naw, vodka supplies, all the distilleries distribution and warehouses. Just sit back and watch hellraiser unfold.
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>>542881124
he will join his brothers in the CUBE soon
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>542881077
>pok
>pok
>pok
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TZD
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>>542880768
Why are you blaming me? Russia invaded, Ukraine killed them. Simple as
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TZD is served, bigger air defense numbers today
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I hope alot of russniggers die while I sleep tonight!
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> Putin told Trump’s envoys that Russia would seize all of Donetsk region within months and continue its attacks on Ukraine’s energy sector, — NYT.
>Kushner tried to counter:
>"You told us exactly that a year ago. What are the chances that we’ll come back here in a year and you’ll say the same thing again? Maybe we won’t waste a year?"
Kek, he's being made fun of right in his face, right in his home.
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>>542882166
by Kuckner of all people
but of course pidor/pol/ keeps insisting pypster's the hero of the age
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>>542882166
I sincerely doubt that sniveling cuckold Kushner had the balls to ask something like that, considering he and the grey-haired retard are fangirling over monke.
Probably a damage control story "leaked" to make him seem tough.
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>>542882166
Is this from the recent secret meeting they had?
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>>542865112
TZD
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>>542882233
The niggotiations from last week.
>>542882229
Still, looks like they're starting to get annoyed.
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>>542871483
as a burger you should have milk in the fridge
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>Trump signs bill imposing sanctions on russia and giving him more power to levy tariffs
orange man will save the russia status?

>>542882076
>more than 1 dead/maimed rusnigger / minute
the new normal
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>>542880892
>he has a decent amount of occult power ... this is difficult to argue
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kill all ziggers and zigger shills
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why is no one talking about this? Rus really going to attack NATO?
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>>542884279
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>>542884279
Attack with what? Mosins?
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TZD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcIB6nSpYlI
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>>542882076
>-11
pog
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>>542884303
I doubt the intelligence agencies of France, Germany, Switzerland, Finland, UK are all raising alarms over nothing. Something definitely is cooking. My guess is that it involves missile and drone attacks across Europe similar to what Iran is doing to Middle East.
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>>542884279
>>542884300
putin xi trump sralinism nihilistic greed will blow up earth...
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>>542884417
you still believe the pidors are strong and bold rather than the opposite
you can be forgiven, after all you live in a society that's highly corrupted by Eurasia gud / West has fallen narratives
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>>542884515
No I don't believe that pidors are strong, I believe they are exhausted and on the verge of collapse. However, I do trust western intelligence agencies, they correctly predicted the invasion of Ukraine, means they are correctly predicting this too.
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>>542884592
i think this is about asymmetric warfare, which would make sense from a rusnigger perspective to destabilize the EU/NATO and weaken their resolve to support Ukraine
rusniggers are retarded tho so more overt options cannot be ruled out
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>>542884644
>asymmetric warfare
warehouse/factory bombings, terrorism, etc. (already in progress btw)
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>>542884644
Asymmetric attacks are already well underway, more hybrid attacks wouldn't be anything new. Its clear that European leaders are talking about something new here, such as direct missile/drone strikes on NATO military bases. Either from Russian Navy ships or directly from Russian territory.

Putin lives in an alternate reality where his advisors are deliberately feeding him false information, so he is ACTUALLY stupid enough to do such a thing.
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>>542884592
I choose to believe monke is very isolated in his aspirations to terror bomb Europe
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any argument for escalation from the pidor side can be defeated with the three word question "why haven't they?"

>rosia can bomb Keef into submission
why haven't they?

>rosia can bend NATO over the curb and baste Article 5 in their proverbial semen
why haven't they?

>rosia can win the economic war against the EU
why haven't they?

>rosia can fuck Ukraine, destroy Zelerusskiy, and remake russkiy mir
why haven't they?
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Level with me, /uhg/. What happens if the monke master starts a conventional war with Yoorup. Serious answers only and NO hopium please thank you.
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>>542884930
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>>542884954
that is a fair and balanced proposal, anon
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>>542884515
they aren’t strong they are just unpredictable like an alcoholic with a broken bottle
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>>542880436
ziggers plan to "accidentally" hit NATO countries at logistic centers and factories; so they cry in advance before ebil nafo strikes back. You know, the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you thing
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>>542884975
one small change I'd make is dividing Königsberg between Poland and Lithuania, share the burden of AIDS cleansing
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>>542884975
Königsberg was promised to a Czech anon (thousands of years ago), they will create a zoo/national park there
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>>542884954
>Serious answers only
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>>542884930
you need money and people to sustain a war, EU has a population multiple times bigger than russia and a much stronger economy, also its militaries and infrastructure haven't been strained by half a decade of war.
would be very stupid of putin to do it now at a time when we're maybe 1 or 2 years away from seeing pro russian parties rule in germany italy and france, however its possible russia just doesn't have 1 or 2 years of fighting left in them.
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>>542884736
>>542884279
about fucking time. waaay too many Ukrainians have died without direct European help
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>>542885237
>1 or 2 years away from seeing pro russian parties rule in germany italy and france
What if EU gets sick of ziggers' shit and arrests all the 5th columnist faggots like Weidel. That british zigger took suitcases of money from FSB, the romanian christcuck farmer guy had literal russian gold bullion under his floorboards, etc. Need to crack down on bribed 5th columnists.

>EU has a population multiple times bigger than russia and a much stronger economy, also its militaries and infrastructure haven't been strained by half a decade of war.
Remember tho that russia has 100% indoctrinated population. Anyone who wasn't so fled the mogilizations. If Putin starts a sovok death war against EU, his entire population will immediately fall in line as brainwashed ants. Meanwhile, EU is riddled with 5th columnists of various colors, fanatical maga-style christcucks, old school tankies, contrarian wignats, bribed niggers, etc. I think our 5th columnists are the #1 most dangerous problem we have.
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>>542885102
I am deadly serious
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>>542884878
1. Russia may be refraining from striking Kyiv in order to conserve resources for other fronts, not because it cannot.

2. If Putin is acting irrationally, then the logic of “why haven’t they?” may not work. But even an irrational actor has constraints.
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>>542885635
t.
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>>542885561
>Remember tho that russia has 100% indoctrinated population. Anyone who wasn't so fled the mogilizations. If Putin starts a sovok death war against EU, his entire population will immediately fall in line as brainwashed ants.
You should stop with fantasies. Russia has population that has been indoctrinated to not care about politics and only about their personal interests. Breaking that social contract is what Putin is the most afraid of, which is why he has not done general mobilization.
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>>542885668
On the one hand, Western military officials claim that the Russian army is 'weak and slow.' On the other hand, the same figures describe Russia as 'a huge threat to Europe,' which requires urgently strengthening the army and spending hundreds of billions. You yourselves are confused in your testimony.
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>>542885748
we krauts are incredibly strong, but not a threat to anyone. you are the diametrical opposite.
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>>542885748
>You yourselves are confused in your testimony
You should probably familiarize yourself with sun tzu
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>>542885840
he won't
puccians are remarkably resistant to knowledge, especially when it relates to history and strategy
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>>542885748
you are weak but have idiots who rush in meat wave thus you are a threat. EU should be prepared to vaporize your ass if you dare to attack
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>>542885812
NATO showed no particular defensive activity when it bombed Libya, destroyed the country, and turned it into hell.
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>>542885748
>weak and slow
>a huge threat

Kek. Weak compared with whom? At which task? Against which opponent? Military capability isn’t one fucking power-level bar, anon.
An army can struggle to capture defended territory while remaining capable of enormous destruction. Slow infantry advances don’t make missiles disappear. Rutte’s June 2025 case for stronger air and missile defence explicitly cited Russia’s aerial attacks on Ukraine.
Ukraine is also actively fighting back with outside support. You can’t treat the results of costly armed resistance as evidence that defending against Russia should cost nothing.
And “threat to Europe” doesn’t require “capable of conquering the entire continent.” An attack can kill people and destroy infrastructure even if the attacker ultimately loses. Preventing that requires readiness, ammunition and air defence.
You’re also comparing performance in the present war with preparations for future contingencies. Equipment and trained formations don’t materialise the morning you need them, lmao.
Now name those “same figures” and provide their actual quotes, dates and context. Putting quotation marks around your own paraphrases doesn’t establish that anyone contradicted themselves.
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>>542885999
openly opposing the West is neither clever nor morally justifiable
your indoctrination says otherwise, but that's because it's retarded and realitätsfremd
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>>542885961
The Russians have this mission — to fight evil. There’s no getting away from it.
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>>542886052
that's why you should be put to sleep once and for all
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>>542886052
pic related, evil
you're certainly not fighting it
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>The Moscow supermarket that Tucker Carlson fawned over during his infamous February 2024 visit to Russia was an Auchan. It's now been confiscated by Putin.
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>fight evil
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>>542885999
>>542885999
>NATO showed no particular defensive activity when it bombed Libya, destroyed the country, and turned it into hell.

>destroyed Libya
>turned It to hell

Implying it was better before NATO?
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>>542886029
An army can be ineffective in one type of operation (maneuver warfare) and devastating in another (positional attrition warfare, air strikes). That is not a contradiction.

You are right that a “threat” does not require “capturing the continent.” But what kind of threat exactly? Nuclear? Hybrid? Air? Without clarification, your thesis becomes too broad.
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>>542886169
>what kind of threat

your collapse of course
nobody in Europe wants to deal with eight digit amounts of demographic trash Mongolyev refugees
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>>542886052
So you're gonna kill yourselves?
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>>542886236
ding ding ding
you win
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>>542886041
There are only a few ways this could end well for Russia. One of them is the complete elimination of all Euro/NATO threats on its border, which would mean the complete destruction of Ukraine and of the Zelensky government, which is financed by Western countries.
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>>542886169
>That is not a contradiction.

Correct. There goes your original complaint, kek.

>what kind of threat exactly?
>air strikes

Anon, your first paragraph has already answered your second.

Conventional threats: missile and drone attacks against infrastructure, for example. A limited ground attack where local defences are inadequate is another possible scenario. Neither requires Russia to conquer Europe, and losing the resulting war wouldn’t magically undo the damage it caused.

Those scenarios call for air defence, ammunition stocks and forces capable of responding quickly. Struggling against an opponent who actively resists you doesn’t establish that other countries can safely neglect their defences.

You don’t need to invoke nuclear war to explain why intercepting a missile or stopping an incursion matters, lmao.

If you want to argue that a particular spending proposal is excessive or buys the wrong equipment, name the proposal and explain which capabilities are unnecessary. That would actually give us something concrete to dispute.
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>>542886135
The resolution did not authorize regime change. Libya was once considered one of the richest countries in Africa, but now almost a third of its population lives below the poverty line.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry stated that Libya would become a failed state if the opposing factions could not agree on forming a government of national unity.

That statement was made five years after the NATO invasion of Libya, which led to the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi. At the time, the West predicted a bright democratic future for the country.
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>>542886306
My condolences for Russia, then. I'm going to miss the artists whose work I enjoy, but it's a price I'm willing to pay.
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>>542886306
bruh, Ukies actually began pushing you out of Donbas for good and you're still here thinking you're about to start an apocalyptic crusade against Brussels satanists
please check yourself
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>>542886410
Russia fears that NATO might use the territory of new members to deploy bases and weapons systems. This has already happened in Romania and Poland (missile defense). Moscow considers this a violation of verbal assurances given in 1990. NATO missile defense in Europe is perceived by Moscow as undermining nuclear deterrence.

Even if technically the missile defense system cannot intercept the entire Russian arsenal, it creates an illusion of invulnerability and lowers the threshold for the West's use of force.
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kek, LLM bots arguing with each other. At least tell us which one each of you is using so we know what to pick in the future.
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>violation of verbal assurances
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>>542886518
>we

thinly veiled neutroolers?
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>>542886499
This is incredible. Do not install air defenses so our nuke threat can stand and you don't get any funny ideas about invading us (???)
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>>542886483
In a war of attrition, demographic potential, mobilization resources, and the resilience of infrastructure play a key role. The damage inflicted on Ukraine's economy, as a percentage of its GDP and population, is not comparable to Russia's losses.
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>>542886617
the core and peak of ruso delulu
time is firmly on Ukraine's side
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>>542886499
>Russia fears NATO expansion

Invades Ukraine. Finland and Sweden subsequently join NATO. Outstanding anti-enlargement strategy, kek.

But explaining Moscow’s fears doesn’t answer whether its neighbours have reason to fear Moscow. A government feeling threatened can still behave aggressively. You’ve changed the question from “does Russia pose a threat?” to “what might motivate it?”

On 1990: yes, informal assurances are documented. Which exact assurance, given by whom, are you claiming covers these missile-defence deployments? Quote it and establish the connection.

>it creates an illusion of invulnerability

In whose head, anon? Which Western decision-makers believe this, and what evidence shows it lowered their threshold for using force?

You started with “Moscow perceives” and somehow ended with an authoritative diagnosis of what Western leaders believe, lmao. Where’s the evidence for that jump?
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>>542885561
>What if EU gets sick of ziggers' shit and arrests all the 5th columnist faggots like Weidel.
antiestablishment parties thrive on this kind of things, it would be very stupid unless there's obvious proof they were bribed.
the way the system deals with these parties usually is to let them win just enough that they get into power, but not enough to make effective changes, so at the next electoral cycle the establishment can go "see, these people promised change but delivered on none of their promises".
also in general it's just easier to make promises when you're at the opposition, as much as i wish total nigger and indian deportation i doubt a party could turn things around in just 4 or 5 years.

>Remember tho that russia has 100% indoctrinated population.
gonna sing a very different tune in winter when they have no food or heating because their logistics and energy infrastructure have been destroyed, the EU is a lot more resilient in tha regard and it hasn't been strained from war already.
also unlike russia we can manufacture our own industrial equipment to replace losses and don't have to rely on someone else, unlike russia needing european manufacturing to maintain their energy infrastructure.
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>>542886667
Ukrainians and Europeans are seeing gasoline hit record highs. What, didn’t you think about the consequences of military strikes on Russia’s oil industry?
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>>542886770
we have economic recourse
you do not
we'll last
you cannot
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>>542886770
it was caused by the war in iran, which the EU has always been opposed to.
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>>542886710
Formally, NATO did not violate any signed obligations. But politically, Russia perceives these assurances as a promise not to move military infrastructure closer to its borders. When in 1999, 2004, and subsequent years the alliance admitted new members, and missile defense elements appeared in Romania and Poland, Moscow regarded this as a violation of the spirit of those assurances. The dispute over whether they concerned "only Germany" or a broader circle of countries continues to this day, but it is precisely this that the Russian side cites. Kennan in 1997 warned that NATO expansion was "the most fateful error" and that it would "push the Russians to war." These warnings were ignored.

As for missile defense: technically, the Aegis Ashore system in Romania and Poland cannot intercept the entire Russian nuclear arsenal. But Moscow fears that over time it could be modernized and, in combination with other systems, reduce the effectiveness of a retaliatory strike. This creates an "illusion of invulnerability" and strengthens the West's temptation to act from a position of strength. Even if this is not the case, the very perception of threat becomes a factor of instability.

Russia cites them not without reason — simply because in international politics, verbal promises, even if not put on paper, can create expectations, and their violation breeds distrust. And distrust, as is well known, is the main currency in relations between Russia and NATO.
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>>542886814
agent Krasnov signaled that this fact is to be memoryholed by all valiant Qtards
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>>542886617
>GDP
You know for a fact they're running on Europe's GDP. So why even bring it up?
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>>542886838
there would absolutely nothing wrong with Moscow as an appendix of Brussels
that's exaclty what it should be, what your people require
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>>542886805
>you do not
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>>542886861
not true, Ukies economy is in decent shape all things considered, not so much unlike like our own
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>>542886884
If Moscow is an "appendage," then its interests, history, security, and opinion are not taken into account. That is exactly how conflicts are born: when one side believes it has the right to determine what another should be.
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Italians are peculiar about their cuisine
Germans venerate thoroughness
Russians are boastful weakness incarnate
some stereotypes just fit
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>>542886893
>ppp
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>>542886911
Bro, big Z came out yesterday and said they have a $27B deficit. Let's not act like russniggers.
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>>542886946
>its interests, history, security, and opinion are not taken into account.

damn straight they're not
not sufficiently Western

>how conflicts are born

you're witnessing the death of one rather than the opposite
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>>542886990
Did not collapse: growth of 4.1% in 2023 and 2024.
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>27,000 men and women every month
>(Like Romeo and Juliet)
>27,0000 men and women every month
>(Redefine happiness)
>Another 27,000 coming every day
>(We can be like they are)

>Come on baby
>(Don’t fear the reaper)
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>>542887005
Historically, such statuses have not led to prosperity. Even within the EU, member states retain their sovereignty, veto power, and their own interests. An “appendage” is not membership — it is a colonial category.
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>>542881892
omg I almost missed the new homu edit (that monkay is deep in the uncanny valley tho)
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>>542887169
yes, and?
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>>542887107
Yeah, propped up by ME chimpouts of various stripes. You can control all the world's supply of gretchka and willow juice and you wouldn't be able to trade it for a single modern GPU.
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>>542886949

It’s going to sting you the hardest you little Russia-hating pimple. When it all comes down.
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>>542887188
the uncanny valley is courtesy of Grok, I was lazy
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>>542887107
I realize you're some RT drooling retard larping behind a fag flag but implying Russia isn't in free fall is beyond out of the sphere of reality itself
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>KLÄFF KLÄFF!

>It’s going to sting you the hardest you little Russia-hating pimple. When it all comes down.

>KLÄFF!
>KLÄFF KLÄFF!
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>>542865112
>> The Third Army Corps paralyzed the Russian elite unit "Rubicon" in Lyman
how?
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>>542887254
encirclement
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>>542887169
You will pay reparations to Ukraine for generations.
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imagine being called "little" by a manlet dystopia
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>>542886838
Kek. Before another essay, an accuracy check for whoever is composing these replies.

Review your previous post as critically as you reviewed mine. A request to defend a position is not evidence that its supporting claims are true. If you’re using a drafting assistant, ask it to include any warranted corrections in the actual reply.

Two specific checks:

1. You attributed “push the Russians to war” to Kennan in 1997, using quotation marks. Provide the original passage. This "reproduced excerpt" (https://comw.org/pda/george-kennan-on-nato-expansion/) supports the “most fateful error” wording; it does not authenticate your second quotation. If that wording is a paraphrase or cannot be verified, identify it accordingly.

2. You wrote that missile defence creates Western “invulnerability” illusions, then added “even if this is not the case.” Which claim are you defending: that Western leaders actually believe themselves invulnerable, or that Moscow worries they might? Give evidence appropriate to the claim you choose.

Start with any correction those checks require. If you maintain both claims, provide their supporting sources. Another account of what Moscow fears won’t establish what Kennan said or what Western leaders believe.
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>>542865687
More humane then shooting the flying ones.
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>>542887254
they broadcasted a certain dancing armenian lady on all common radio frequencies
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>>542887276
Bu huh hu t wait the elite super secret ninja spestnaz Wagner division will be rescued by their advanced hybrid Calvary brigades
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>>542887358
we were too cocky... the VDV berserkers... worse than Colombians... dios mio...
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>>542887299
What happened? Russia since ’12 still isn’t collapsing, and since ’22 still isn’t being defeated — and according to the schedule, your budgets have been waiting for Russian reparations for years now? But they do pay you regularly — every day Ukraine receives carpet reparations.
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>>542867305
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>>542887197
In international politics and law, this is called a loss of sovereignty.
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>>542887380
What StarCraft team is that
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>>542887233
Are there genuinely still pockets of copers around the internet that think the Russian economy is doing anything but growing? It's been almost 5 years of forecasted collapse and then the real numbers turning out to not just be positive, but strongly positive too.
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>>542887450
if international law serves to protect a nation of mafiose criminals, we obviously need a new system.
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>>542887351
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>>542887488
The West still cannot forgive Russia for its victory over the Nazis in World War II.
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>>542887415

The Estonians have your number jack. Make your time. Russia is finished (checks notes). Any day now.
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>>542887477
you've only lasted because your 80iq dolboyob leader burned up your future
we knew as early as 2023 that you'd last roughly 3-3.5 years on reserves and deficits
that time is now very close to running out, and we're ahead of schedule too

>>542887535
the West beat us, you were permitted at the victors table as a formal courtesy
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>>542886499
russia is not entitled to have their fears addressed or even known about.
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>>542887477

The confirmation of 27,000 per month from Tusks mouth has absolutely floored them. There is no cope that can survive that. It’s literally mind melted some of them. They actually believed it was Russia talking these numbers. Despite all the obvious signs for years. They we their ego to this false truth.

Now that it’s shattered. Some of them are genuinely mentally broken. Think about what it is. To talk shit for 4 years. And truly believe the bullshit they have fed on. Basing so much of their own sense of self on it.

Only to have it all rug pulled. Some feeble copes have emerged. But ultimately they will all metamorphise into two things. All out war advocates to save the broken mind. Or some will wake up. And stop being fools led around in the dark.
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>>542887535
The west is the only thing that supplied the soviet union enough for them to win against Nazi Germany. That KD ratio was not fucking impressive, for the amount of resources spent.
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>>542887477
>Russian economy is growing which is why it has exorbitant rates
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LITTLE GREEN MEN INTO BALTICS


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>f-FEAR US!

you cannot even begin to give me a reason to
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>>542887748
EVACUATE VILNUIS NOW!!!!!!!
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>>542887325
Direct quote Kennan, February 5, 1997:

"The view, bluntly stated, is that expanding NATO would be the most fateful error of American policy in the entire post-cold-war era".

"Such a decision inflame the nationalistic, anti-Western and militaristic tendencies in Russian opinion; to have an adverse effect on the development of Russian democracy; to restore the atmosphere of the cold war to East-West relations, and to impel Russian foreign policy in directions decidedly not to our liking".

Putin (December 2014):

“I believe this is dangerous for the U.S. itself, as it creates a dangerous illusion of invulnerability and reinforces the tendency of unilateral, often ill‑considered decisions and additional risks.”

Lavrov (April 2017, Moscow Conference on International Security):

“The anti‑missile umbrella may increase the illusion of invulnerability and impunity and lead to the temptation of taking unilateral steps in resolving global and regional problems, including reducing the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons.”

General Staff of the Russian Federation (October 2016): "the United States wants to gain an advantage in strategic weapons over Russia and China through missile defense systems; this may lead to unpredictable consequences."
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>the nationalistic, anti-Western and militaristic tendencies in Russian opinion
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>>542887854

No point explaining anymore. Just finish it. Before they build up capacity to do something stupid.
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>>542887740
I think if you drink enough vodka watch enough RT and down enough Chechen cum you will have few enough brain cells to think rusha is okay
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>>542887748
Invading Afghanistan was an abysmally retarded idea. Yet they did it anyway.
Invading Chechnya was an abysmally retarded idea. Yet they did it anyway.
Invading Ukraine was an abysmally retarded idea. Yet they did it anyway.

Honestly, I might download some drone training simulators from Steam. Cuz shit just might get extra retarded once again.
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Why is it always the rusnigger shills that redditspace?
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yeah, Ivan, listen to your sycophant. sign the kontrakt. show them how to svinorez. go west.
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>>542887891
All is revealed
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>>542887878

Today. I will remind him, of Himler and pals. There’s a lot to get through. Get reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes
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>>542887921
extreme desperation to agitate
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The Monke party will get at least 60% of votes. Then mobilization will begin.
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>>542888015
Immediately? I predict a 5 day grace period.
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>>542888015
North Korea is more democratic than HIVille
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>>542888015
I'm gonna enjoy the instant switch from
>mobilization won't happen you NAFO tranny
to
>AXAXAXAXAX HOW WILL MALOROSIANS COPE YOU WILL BE OVERWHELMED TO COMPLETION NOW XOXLS COPE THE RASHAN STEAMROLL RETURNS AXAXAXAAAAAXAXAXAX
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>>542888044

27,000 a month. What Ukraine gonna do about that? That’s a lot of kidnapping. How does that make you feel by the way. Now it’s confirmed. That Ukraine has been losing hundreds of thousands of men per year Kek.

What will they do!!! Maybe you should go? No? You sound like you want to help. And with 27,000 a MONTH! Oof. They are gonna need it.
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>the real numbers turning out to not just be positive, but strongly positive too

Kek. Even taking Moscow’s published numbers at face value, the slowdown is already on the page.

Reported real GDP growth: 4.9% in 2024, then 1.0% in 2025. That’s the official series showing a sharp slowdown: https://www.cbr.ru/eng/statistics/ddkp/mo_br/.

For 2026, the central bank forecasts 0–1% growth. Its table also reports fixed investment falling 0.4% in 2025, with between another 1.5% fall and a 0.5% rise forecast for 2026. “Strongly positive” is doing a fucking heroic amount of work there. CBR forecast: https://www.cbr.ru/Content/Document/File/194313/forecast_260724_e.pdf.

And using those figures for the argument doesn’t certify Moscow’s bookkeeping. SITE describes withheld and tightly controlled economic data that obstruct assessment of inflation and indebtedness, alongside military financing outside the headline budget. Calling the published releases “the real numbers” doesn’t fill in everything withheld from scrutiny. SITE assessment: https://www.hhs.se/news/site-publications/2025/spring-2025-report-russian-war-economy/
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>>542867105
>ask for translations directly from ukie-finn.
based,he is one of my favorite posters here.
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>>542887748
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>>542887971
Thanks for the manual. We can repeat.
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>>542888136
more hypercope
"rasha stronk" really is (read: was) the central pillar of thirdworldist copes huh
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>>542887748
Please let them be stupid enough to try this
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>>542888153

Hehehe. The final cope. The economic cope. What about these numbers.

1,000 a day.
27,000 a month.
350,000 a year.
Let’s say 1.5 million roughly in total. That we now know of. Probably low end now. What about these numbers! Hahahaha
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>if I repeat le twenty seven thousands often enough, they WILL believe me!

pidors are finished on /pol/
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>>542887912
Decisions were made by different people in different systems (the Politburo, Yeltsin, Putin)
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baking
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>>542865112

When will the jewkraine stop losing?
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fresh ruso yapping sesh
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>>542888352

Come if mr Roepke. You can cope better than this! Surely Kek.

The “na na na I’m not listening” strategy might not hold up this time! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. Ahhh man. Hilarious.

https://youtu.be/HX3ln38IrOI?is=MNdSDwUQlRI5qWpl
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>>542888342
>>542888356
THAT'S ILLEGAL, YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL, PRISON
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>>542887737
The Wehrmacht in 1941–1942 was the strongest army in the world. The fact that the Red Army held out and turned the tide of the war is evidence of its ability to learn and adapt, not of 'winning by piling up bodies.' Lend-Lease was not the only condition for victory; the key battles were won before supplies peaked.

The key turning-point battles were won predominantly with Soviet weapons. Lend-Lease covered ~4% of Soviet industrial production overall, but up to 50–60% for certain items (aluminum, telephone wire, trucks).
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>>542887748
>doubling down on retarded shit
yeah thats sounds like pooptin
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>>542866090
Are you serious, Clark?

It was great back when it first split from /r/TheDonald, but when the owner of the old domain name (I forget what it was called, maybe thedonald.win?) shut it down and forced the relocation to patriots.win, it turned into a bunch of conspiracy wackos, most of whom pretend that the war is all Ukraine's fault.
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>>542888519
It was unironically US spam cans that won the war for Soviets, not the weapons.
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>>542884954
counter proposal
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>>542888242
totally worth it
a world with russia in it has no future
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>>542888519
You lost the war and will pay reparations to Ukraine for generations.
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>>542885237
>you need money and people to sustain a war
isn't ukraine the living proof you need neither?
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>>542887854
Kek, the audit has acquired a bibliography. Still missing the two answers:

1. Did Kennan actually write “push the Russians to war”, or was that a paraphrase wearing quotation marks? The passage supplied doesn’t contain those words. If it was a paraphrase, acknowledging that would complete this part of the audit.

2. Is the claim that Western leaders believed themselves invulnerable, or that Russian officials feared they might? The Russian quotations support the latter. They don’t establish the former. Which claim is being maintained?

Corrections are allowed, lmao. “That was my paraphrase” isn’t a surrender document.



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