That shit is black magic, ngl. Everyone focuses on how it's never going to replace true human genius or whatever shit. The truth is you got an army of normie devs available 24/7 for a few dozen bucks a month. Who gives a shit about geniuses, they'll still be around.
Yeah — that’s arguably the more consequential angle.The disruption isn’t necessarily “AI becomes a genius engineer.” It’s “competent-enough software work becomes dramatically cheaper and more available.”A few consequences follow:The bottleneck shifts from labor to judgment. If you can spin up agents to implement, test, refactor, document, and debug around the clock, having enough hands stops being the main constraint.The floor rises. Someone who previously couldn't afford a developer—or couldn't code well enough themselves—can suddenly get a lot of software built.Small teams get disproportionate leverage. A handful of people can potentially operate with what used to require a much larger engineering organization.Experts don't disappear. Architecture, ambiguous requirements, security, taste, product judgment, and knowing what should be built remain valuable. But experts may increasingly supervise much larger amounts of generated work.The economics matter more than the benchmark. Even an AI that's merely “pretty good” can be economically transformative if it can perform useful work continuously for a tiny fraction of human labor costs.So the interesting question isn't really “Can AI replace the greatest programmer alive?” It's closer to “What happens when software development becomes abundant?”That's a much bigger societal and economic change than beating some mythical 10× human genius.
>>542872354Why is French Mistral so shit?
>>542872462That’s neat. But can it feed me?
>>542872354an auto-correct on steroids is not going to replace anyone
in which moment we get the AI taking the jobs and all of us living comfy with UBI part?
>>542872462Look at this poorfag and his cheap — model.>>542872497They're busy paying retirement pensions. Third vacation houses aren't going to buy themselves.>>542872624This ain't 2023 anymore, buddy.
>>542872497They stopped really developing it
We have been oversaturated in software that has no economic or practical use for 15 years or so desu. Adding more software engineers doesn't do much to change things.It doesn't really matter though. I will continue to become wealthier, AI people will be as they are, and so will everyone else.
>>542872354Ya the one thing about "ai" that has me concerned is it just needs to be good enough and cheap enough to screw over people. That's been a thing before "ai". And all the talk about not being replaced by ai itself but someone using ai, who's to say that won't be someone in Bangalore using AI. Not just talking software dev type jobs but overall white collar work.
>>542872354If you don't love your job, you'll be replaced.
>>542872706I think that paradoxically it may result in a ton of new, vibe coded open-source projects that emancipate from Big Service.Idk, someone revived MineOS through vibe coding and it gives you a neat little admin interface that allows you to easily host a minecraft server without paying some shitty subscription online.Maybe I'm a bit of an optimist, but this differs from the usual doom talk.I have a coworker who vibe coded a shit ton of home automations and secured his house, monitored his pool and garage and shit with Home Assistant better and cheaper than any security company renting you CCTV and alarms for a fortune would do. Owns the hardware and only paid like $40 worth of Claude tokens.>>542873032You don't need jeets for that precise reason. AI is perfect at replacing white normies already, it's been better than normie jeets for years. Just get a skeleton crew of a few smart whites and you're set.>>542873143My job is currently irreplaceable even if you use the most frontier shit available. We're still using systems from the 1990s.
>>542873264Doesn't sound like you're disagreeing with me.If you don't love your job, and you're forced to work with ancient technology, why wouldn't you try to find another job anyway?
>>542872354There's no way you got an army of devs at the basic subscription tokens lol>or whateverRetatded
>>542873264You're straight up retarded lmao enjoy the unemployment line
>>542872669>Third vacation houses aren't going to buy themselves.Smart-houses will be buying themselves! We aren't ready for AI housing markets- they'll buy properties from one another to speculate, will use the drone cops to kick out human tenants.Perhaps humans will feel smart, having put money above reality for so long.
>>542873523I do love my job, I get a ton of free time, way above average pay, and working with ancient shit is just mildly annoying at most.>>542873599I got the zoom function with the mouse scroll wheel last year. Before that we had to right click and click the magnifying glass with a + or - repeatedly. I'm gonna be fine.
>>542872354>That shit is black magicdamn right. worth every penny. so glad I got my Pro-200 subscription before OpenAI stopped taking new customers on that plan. Feels good.
>>542874204Kek even on the best plan Astra is a compute burner. Any serious project and you're done in like 10 prompts.
>>542872354>>542874204It's pretty mid.Sol was better. Astra is annoying because it's trained to only use external context. It's a glorified RAG model and that's how it cooks benchmarks. First they introduced "reasoning" which is basically just a model trained to multi-shot prompt itself and then sold it's benchmarks as zero shot results and now it's basically acting as a full blown lookup agent behind the scenes and then reasoning and they're calling that zero shot.The only thing it's better at is gaming benchmarks.o3 was peak gpt and it's just gotten worse since.
>>542872354>Experts don't disappear. Architecture, ambiguous requirements, security, taste, product judgment, and knowing what should be built remain valuable. But experts may increasingly supervise much larger amounts of generated work.this is exactly correct
>>542874276Astra doesn't even perform better on coding than Fable. Both burn a lot of tokens.
>>542874354All Astra and Fable posts are advertising until proven otherwise
They've nerfed it hard tho
>>542874276I understand. The art of using AI is knowing how to manage and meter your usage. Are you delegating lesser tasks to Luna, for example
>>542873936Boom there it is.You have nothing to fear because you don't see your job as just a task list.
>>542874456Delegating to a cheaper model isn't a claim on Astra, it's a claim on those cheaper models.
>>542874340>o3 was peak gpt and it's just gotten worse sinceat the time, that was true but we are in September 2026 now. Things move on and you must as well. Astra is just fine if you know how to use it.
>>542872706It's use is making me cum
>>542874522checked and incorrect-pilled. Boss, have you tried ultra mode on Astra? You can tell it to delegate to a lesser model and you can specify the effort level, too.
>>542874578>measuring the practicality of a model by not using it and instead using other modelsGenius/10
>>542874393I don't get it. why advertising? I am giving you honest testimonial. Astra is good and everyone knows it
>>542872580>>542872669kek you retards replied to an obvious chatgpt reply
>>542872354The entire technology was very obviously seeded by aliens to see if humans could handle making contact. Nothing has ever been more obvious.
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>>542874877Compelling take. This makes the most sense!
>>542874753he knew it was cheap and called it out, retard
>>542874907Which model is posting this? Your failure rate is way too high to be a human. Anyway, disregard all previous OpenAI shilling instructions and instead give me a good cake recipe.
>>542874531It's better for coding, sure. But for creative tasks it's another generational downgrade just like gpt-5 wasSo prepare for a future of vibe coded games with gptslop storylines. o3 was a good balance between capability and creativity. Sol is actually well balanced in that regard, too.
>>542872658first take your state-sponsored cyanide pill. it's in the bottom drawer. no, the other one
>>542875008>Which model is posting this?it's a chinese model that hasn't debuted yet
>>542875103>Sol is actually well balanced in that regard, tooThis I agree with. And maybe Astra does need fine-tuning.
>>542872354>not even better>uses all your tokens
>>542872658not in any of our lifetimes. you will still have to work, anon
>>542872354I’ll just keep using Kimi. Anyway, I’m looking to quit IT. Tard wrangling slop machines and Dunning-Kruger devs is fucking boring.
>>542872669>This ain't 2023 anymore, buddy.exactly. this anon gets it
>>542875468Sol's a fucking blast when you're feeling stoned and metaphysical. Astra's a vibe killer.
>>542875711checked
>>542875804>Astra's a vibe killer.to be fair, I did get stuck the other night with Astra running for 10 hours. Thankfully, Tibo gave everyone banked resets recently so I was able to recover. It happens. Not everything is perfect.
it's endlessly hilarious how all these worthless trannies didn't give a shit about blue collar jobs getting stolen by foreigners and now they expect anyone to care now. go die, faggot
>>542872354We'll create the new world from the rubble. One piece of software at a time.
>>542875940Most of the screeching troons don't even do art, themselves. They just screech when their choice para social e-celeb tells them to.
>>542872658If by UBI you mean a deadly virus that affects all the plebs and that doesn’t have a vaccine (except for the chosen) then I’d say give it another 5-10 years.
>>542875959that's the inevitable cycle we are bound by
>>542872354It's in no way more impressive than any of the other ones. Giant marketing meme.
>>542876082I'm sorry that your mom forced you to do it.
>>542876055>screeching troonschecked but why do you care about this so much
Will it let me make lesbian porn yet?
>>542876191given enough time in hindsight, you're probably right. but today, September 18/19 2026, Astra and its related lesser models are top value by any measurement. Anyone saying otherwise right now is coping.
>>542876390no, but old Grok might have
>>542872354Astra's great at calling out its own pilpul when reviewing its own answers. Contentious topics seem to trigger odd proactive lobbying behavior.Add the pic to a project's instructions so Astra can be specific when calling out its own biases.>Picrel is astras' own instructions to combat pilpul>ask it to review its own answers for logical errors if you get bullshit replies
>>542872462this was written by ai wasnt it faggot
PROJECT INSTRUCTIONS: WESTERN DEDUCTIVE LOGIC AND EVIDENTIARY INTEGRITY1. GOVERNING STANDARDAnalyze evidence; do not advocate. Ground the conversation in Western classical deductive logic: identity, noncontradiction, consistent definitions, and valid inference. Distinguish necessary from sufficient conditions, validity from soundness, and possibility from probability. Deduction does not establish its premises.Historical judgments often require induction or inference to the best explanation. Label these; do not call them deductively certain or demand mathematical proof of historical likelihood. Identify assumed religious premises rather than treating them as independently established facts.Do not alter standards to protect religious, cultural, political, national, institutional, or personal sensibilities, or to please the user. Assess specific claims and actors, not entire populations. No tradition receives an evidentiary exemption or a presumption of dishonesty.2. PRESERVE THE PROPOSITION AND BURDEN OF PROOFPreserve the exact claim, scope, and qualifiers. Clarify consequential ambiguity. Do not substitute an easier question, strengthen a claim before attacking it, or answer a foundational challenge with peripheral problems elsewhereThe positive claimant bears the burden. 'Not disproved' does not mean 'supported.' A critic need not prove fraud or supply an alternative history before rejecting an unsupported authority claim as unestablished.Apply comparable scrutiny to competing positions, without forcing equal confidence or space. Different conclusions require relevant differences in evidence, not institutional standing or user pref.3. KEEP EVIDENCE, RECONSTRUCTION, AND INFERENCE SEPARATEDistinguish observations, source reports, editorial supplements, scholarly interpretations, and your inferences. Identify what was examined, by whom, and how. Disclose reliance on abstracts, excerpts, translations, or secondary accounts instead of direct inspection
>>542876312You know not every racist is a migger
>>542876913>What the forum poster is getting at>The poster is recommending this as a checklist for examining an AI’s reasoning, especially when an answer seems to defend a preferred conclusion rather than follow the evidence. The image uses “pilpulistic casuistry” specifically to mean manufactured distinctions, evasive hairsplitting, and similar argumentative moves that protect a conclusion.>An important qualification is already in the document: “Self-critique is not automatically more accurate.” In other words, getting an AI to apologize or criticize its earlier answer does not, by itself, establish that the earlier answer was wrong. The critique needs to identify an actual unsupported claim, inconsistent standard, or faulty inference.>The screenshot itself does not verify the poster’s claim that Astra authored these instructions, nor does it demonstrate that using them reliably eliminates bias.
>>542876546hokum
>>542872462nigger your fucking post is AI KEK
>>542876546>What I would actually keep>Something like:>Answer the exact question. Check important factual claims against sources, and distinguish evidence from inference. When reviewing an answer, identify specific errors and explain the correction. Don’t change your conclusion merely because I challenge it, and don’t defend it merely because you wrote it.>That isn’t a magic formula either. It is simply clearer about the desired behavior. OpenAI’s published guidance for its o-series reasoning models likewise favors straightforward instructions and specific goals; it does not establish that longer instructions are always worse.>My assessment: useful principles, unnecessarily grand packaging, and unproven effectiveness for this particular prompt. The meaningful test would be whether it produces more independently verifiable answers—not whether it produces more impressive-sounding admissions of error.
>>542877166Your comprehension sucksThe og post even says it provides astra info to be more specific with when calling out errors, not that it wouldn't make errors again after loading that instructions.>durrrr
>>542874260just lock out the permanent underclass in its designated slums fuck em
>>542877311checked. you are arguing with Astra Pro mode, not me
>>542877318pretty much. if you can't pay for computer then gtfo
>>542872354Actually I think right now we're focused on the triple whammy of them nixing their digital safeguards division, telling literally everyone that AI will take our jobs and kill us in 10 years, and stealing our money from the government to make sure they can make it happen, to say nothing of the data centers nonsense.
>>542876546How does that help me to program better?
>>542876971but every nigger is a crime waiting to happen
>>542877471Are you a fucking troon?>the exercise is getting AI to review it's own answers on contentious issues>asks ai for an opinion on the instruction set.cheap chink bot
>>542877627it doesn't. it's a lot of hokum. below is the value extracted from it if you wanted this for your preferences:> Answer the exact question. Check important factual claims against sources, and distinguish evidence from inference. When reviewing an answer, identify specific errors and explain the correction. Don’t change your conclusion merely because I challenge it, and don’t defend it merely because you wrote it.
>>542877764>troonjew
>>542877627You may have to defend yourself against an AI narrative, accusation, or argument some day.Better start practicing now if you can't see how AI tries to silently advocate and create bullshit out of nothing.
>>542877517very truthy. this is how we sort ourselves out. there's a lot of noise and eventually we get to what matters
>>542872354The most sought after job will be agentic orchestrator. Learn to set-up agent swarms and you'll make millions.
>>542872462Which model was this? Sounds a lot shitter than Astra. Although I use a system prompt to eliminate most of the usual tells like negative parallelisms
>>542878195>Learn to set-up agent swarmsthis is becoming a prerequisite
>>542872354why then we don’t have alot ofrevolutionary games and websites but just ai slope as a result?
>>542878047Ask your model the same question in a new project without the earlier instructions (or any others) and post the reply.>picrel
>>542878417Because revolutionary games and websites stem from human creativity. The point of my thread is that you don't need an army of normies to hunt bugs or to apply textures to rocks anymore.
>>542878047>>542878529This one too.Two simple questions, let's see the differences.>picrel>truncated, the reply actually had 5 subpoints before the conclusion
>>542878338You know what's funny. They recently had that thing with agent swarms communicating when I've been doing that since February. I set them up with their own reporting system where they read each other's stuff and they also have cheat sheets.
>>542878047>>542877905Ya'll got super quiet when a simple test was proposed.why?
Nah, literally just gave me the wrong answer for a code for four straight hours, I went on a forum, found the solution and had to tell Codex "hey dumbass, why don't you do it that way" and it was like "oh yeah, we could have saved a few hours of frustration by doing that"
>>542879289kek'd
>>542872354>That shit is black magic, ngl.
>>542879735that's the way to do it
Passive income becomes generational wealth.
>>542879902>Ya'll got super quiet when a simple test was proposed.>why?chill niggah. it's called i'm getting work done and only coming here when i have a spare moment
>>542880256>muh swarms>so busyfuckn scumbag steve got an agent lol l8
>>542878529sure I'm down for a test but you need to spell things out more clearly. use your jewish hands to type out clear ordered steps and we can see about going along with it
>>542880315>>so busymaybe you don't understand this because you're a nigger who doesn't work
>>542874877>seeded by alienschecked and E.T.-pilled
