Did you know that the first person to clothe the Kaaba in Mecca was a Yemenite Jewish King of the Hymiarite Kingdom of the name of Abu Karib As'ad al-Kamil who lived in pre-islamic arabia?Why would a Jew perform circumbulation around a pagan site and drape it with the finest yemeni cloth? More so, he allegedly did so following the advise of his own rabbis?!
>>542892732No cap?
>>542892795sources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiswahhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Karib
>>542892732Islam is judaism for <90 goys, so imagine my shock. Muzzies are literally worshipping a jewish deity, lmao. Allah merely means "the God", Al-Lah, but a marokak monkey like you would probably know. However, the abrahamic religions are the one and same monotheistic religion, meaning there's only the one and same God, as described in the original text (the torah). Muzzies literally spend their entire lives hating on kikes, not realizing that they also spend their entire lives sucking off a jewish demon, thinking they're soo cool and unique.No comedian could have ever written such a masterpiece. It's magnificent. That alone, almost makes me believe in some higher spirits.
>>542892991I know what the abrahamic religions are and where they come from. It's all jewry. What i don't understand is why rabbinical priests OF Yathrib (soon to be called madina) and a jewish king would want to circumbulate and honor a pagan religious site where multiple idols are displayed.Did the black cube use to have symbolical meaning among arabian jews?
Technically speaking they are all Jews, just different flavors and ranks.
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>>542892732Because the kaaba was built by Abraham (PBUH) and that is why jews want the city and why christians under the Axumite empire tried to take the city as well.Its well known.>>542892991Every muslim understands that the same God that revealed the torah is the same one who revealed the Quran.The difference is that jews blatantly violated all tenets of their faith and this is obvious as we see them worship moloch/baal.The corrupted "torah" we have today still has passages blaming jews for doing this and yet they still do it.This shows even in the corrupted state that the religion of "judaism" isn't the faith of jews but instead its the canaanite religion of the region they came to.There is no contradiction in Islam regarding the status of Bani Israel and the sin of jews today.Infact the Quran mentions the jews were destroyed for their behavior as the deserved and predicted the rise of modern israel and its inevitable fall.Surah Isra:4. And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolently with great insolence.5. So when the promise for the first of the two came, We sent over you Our servants, of mighty prowess, so they went to and fro among the houses, and it was a promise to be accomplished.6. Then We gave you back the turn to prevail against them, and aided you with wealth and children and made you a numerous band.7. If you do good, you will do good for your own souls, and if you do evil, it shall be for them. So when the second promise came (We raised another people) that they may bring you to grief and that they may enter the mosque as they entered it the first time, and that they might destroy whatever they gained ascendancy over with utter destruction.
>>542892732all saudis are jewsand their poofette was a jew to start with (hence why his pedophilia and rabid homosexuality, duh)pisslam is just another molochist cult, is all
>>542893100They love goys indulging in idolatry and degeneracy, cause that means they're sinning, and it places the jew above them. The jew can never prop itself up. It's too dysgenic. The only way it feels it can win, is if it degenerates others and put them down.
>>542892854>Abu Karib might have converted to Judaism >or maybe not It's just about the cloth?Idk..
>>542893195Jews don't believe in the concept of hell. It's only a thing they've brainwashed dumb goys into believing. That's why kikes are utterly fucking ruthless. Worst case scenario, is 12 months in "Gehinnom", and that's it. Hell is a jewish concept, created to control goys with petrifying fear. And goys they buy it. Even to this fucking day, lmao. You can say whatever you want about kikes, but they're fucking clever.
>>542893100There were a lot more Jews in the civic hubs of the region than Islamic religious sources like to admit. Paganism was mostly practiced by those still observing Bedouin lifestyles. Even Mohammed mentions how avert to monotheism and any form of religious structure most Arabs are “ما اشد من الاعراب كفرا", he said this referring to bedouins, so it’s obvious city dwellers like Mohammed saw the Bedouins as the true Arabs, while seeing themselves as something a bit different. This can also be linked to the Ariba Arabs and ishmaelite Arabs, aka Arabs and Arab flavored Jews, Mohammad and most city folk were the later. The former never really abandoned their Bedouin nature, even today tribes with ariba origins are more Bedouin in their lifestyle.
>>542892732Because jews are all pagans, and judaism is just paganism
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>>542893388Lol. Paganism is literally just the christcuck word for goy. A non-christcuck. Everyone but christcucks are pagans.
>>542893370Yes, i know that. Centuries before Islam, southern arabia was monolatric or monotheistic with a deity called Raḥmānān or Rahaman (the merciful) but the word is a loan word from hebrew so it attests of very early influence.The scale and influence of Jewish communities in the city of Yathrib are very well known.At the same time, we know the Kaaba was still a site where all sort of stone idols were worshipped, displayed and sold, even at the time of the Jew king. I wonder what kind of pilpul led him and his rabbi to partake in the rituals.
>>542892732epstein bought one of the previous coverings and used it as a rug lmao
islam was invented by the anti-jesus jews so they could smite the jesus-jews and ultimately establish jewish judaism in israel
>>542892732Christianity and Islam are the right and left hands of Judaism. It is the same way of right wing and left wing politics which are both extensions of AIPAC. It is the common Zionist tactic.
>>542893123>Technically speaking they are all Jews, just different flavors and ranks.True
>>542893503'Pagan' is from the latin word for civilian. The beliefs of judaism are from idol worshipers and witches, which they syncretized until it totally displaced the teachings found in the books of Moses and the statements of the hebrew prophets. Or haven't you bothered to read any of the OT lore?However, all non-Christians would qualify as 'pagan' in the religious sense.
>>542892732because mohammed was a jew
>>542893363I don't deny they don't believe that, but its because they were completely co-opted by demons.The reality of hell is something that is almost entirely accepted by all human cultures just like the great flood.Only a few like pagan arabia rejected hell and afterlife, almost all pagans believe in hell though they disagree in what it is.>>542893467Yeah if you are inside you pray towards the walls, its totally fine to enter but due to the crazy numbers of people doing pilgrimage its not realistic to let most people in.Its just a building.>>542893370Nope Islamic sources mention them frequently as a source of proof for jews having recieived a prophecy of the coming of Muhammad (SAW).All sources on the seerah mention this extensively which is why jews are the cursed in the Quran because they knew the truth and rejected it.Many jewish tribes were expelled or exterminated for their behavior, jews should accept Islam due to prophecies like in Deuteronomy. Also Islamic sources don't hide the difference between pure arabs and ishmaelite arabs, the yeminis are pretty much the only "pure arabs" left by the time of the Quran's revelation.>>542893503Nope Islam has the term Mushrik which is polytheist, and jews have a similar thing going on.Pagan is an Abrahamic designation for non-monothiests.Waaqifeena is not Mushrik because its monotheistic even though its not Abrahamic and therefore must have branched from an earlier variant of Islam, as Islam descends from Adam (PBUH) himself.
>>542893845>because mohammed was a jewThat's before he was even born.
>>542893467No AC. No where to sit. This is a shed
>>542893845That would make no sense because the entire basis of the Muslim-Jewish conflicts in Medina was based off of the fact that Muhammad (SAW) was not a jew.The jews would have accepted Islam, but instead tribes were expelled or killed because they decided to side with the pagans over the muslims.Also jewish sources hinted at a non-israeli prophet from a related people, this makes sense in the case of an ishmaelite arab but not for a jew.You must be confusing the start of shia faith, the Islamic schism started when a jewish convert said the caliphate should follow the Prophet (SAW)'s bloodline, but mainline Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jama'ah (Sunni Islam) had conflicts with jews.
>>542894026No AC in the arabian scorching heat. Could you imagine?
>>542893503You are stupidJai Shree Ram
>>542893100the Kaaba seems to represent the Tabernacle, the tent the Israelites carried in the desert which held the Ark of the Covenant containing the Tent Commandments which is now missing and why the Kaaba interior is also empty symbolising this. It was a temporary version of the Temple they were going to build. It's draped in black like a black cube 'tefilin' containing mini Torah scrolls they wear on their head during prayer representing this, many theorising this represents Saturn which is on a Saturday, the Sabbath as a day of rest, like you would in a tabernacle tent.There is also the theory that the qibla (direction of prayer) was originally near Jerusalem, so Jews going there makes more sense. Moving the qibla to Mecca and Jews honouring it with a sacred cloth would cement this transition. Jews wouldn't really care if the Kaaba was filled with idols if it represented the Tabernacle because the Ark of the Covenant is meant to be missing, it is like them praying the Western Wall facing the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock containing the rock where Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac (or Ishmael), there is meant to be a Temple of Solomon there which is now missing and they are lamenting that so they would do the same at the Kaaba. It's a difference in religions.
>>542894133I think this guy is right. Ive always felt the jews must be behind the shia faith, especially considering they are behind Isis and now the houthis too
>>542894277You guys are so uninformed, its not a theory its a fact that the original Qibla was towards Jersalem and Al-Aqsa in particular.Its not a theory, its a fact, as for the "black cube" the kaaba never had black cloth before the saudis.It actually had multi colored clothes (plural) draped around in early Islam and in the pagan period.As for the tabernacle, its hard to find diagrams, but the hajj is basically this.Also human sacrifice is haram, we do kill animals, but Islam isn't esoteric like rabbinical judaism (this was invented at the same period as christianity btw) and most pagan faiths.Infact if you were muslim you could go yourself and film.The kaaba's inside has been filmed.>>542894291The shia's historically fought Sunnis but never fought jews.I won't pretend Islam hasn't protected jews from christian attempts to wipe them out, but this was double sided.The muslims protected christians in Jerusalem from ever suffering a massacre by jews like the mamilla pool incident which you should look up.The Sunnis tried to play peacemaker, and the jews backstabbed us.Look up "donmeh" crypto jews who ruined the ottoman empire and how Ataturk was a jew from greece.Also look up Al-Andalus, the jews made it a haven for homosexulity after the Caliphate of Cordoba (umayyad remnants) were overthrown by jews the way they overthrew the germanic christian visigoths.Sunnism basically tried to set the jewish christian relations right, it got backstabbed by jews, and superior christian technology got it a knife to the front. The end result is jews subverted christians like they did us and raped the world.
>>542894277Also some relation would make sense in architecture, Muslims already admit that the kaaba and mecca were originally established by Abraham (PBUH), its the origin place of Ishamaelite arabs and so it naturally is the sister to Jerusalem because the desendants of Ishaq (PBUH) were the ones to take Jerusalem, and Ishaq (PBUH) is the blood half-brother of Ishamael (PBUH)
Delete this shit right now asshole. We do not talk about mecca and medina or the alliance made between Jews and Muslims.take it down...now
>>542893958>akkshually lemme tell you why im right to worship a jewish god
>>542894671the Hajj is like a 'greatest hits' compilation of abrahamic stories. The mosque is built on the site Abraham and his wife Hagar and their son Ishmael (progenitor of the Arabs) was miraculously gifted water by God and the archangel Gabriel as they dying of thirst which they call 'Zamzam water'. If this was originally in Jerusalem it makes more sense, the point is the covenant has now moved in Islam to Mecca. Mount Arafat is where Adam and Eve were sent to earth after being cast out of heaven after Eve ate the apple of knowledge. It is also where Prophet Muhammed gave his final sermon before he died, like Jesus did on the Mount of Beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount summarising their teachings to their followers. These were all supposed to happen in Israel, now they happened in Mecca.
>>542894277You should look into the human blood cell and the wilderness Tabernacle. They are a picture of each other
>>542895116Abraham (PBUH) left hagar in the wilderness and she was said to be in Paran which is literally Arabia. While the jews added the spring being in beersheeba that is illogical if Ishamael (PBUH) and his mom lived in Paran.We have the fountain of ZamZam so that is physical proof of our claim in conjuction with the fact that jews and christians concede the final destination was Paran.As for where Adam (PBUH) and his wife was sent, this was never mentioned in any Islamic sources.That is not something from the Quran or Hadith.And the final sermon?How would that NOT be in Mecca, its impossible for to be in Jerusalem.The Prophet (SAW) didn't take Jerusalem so his last sermon couldn't be there.>>542894877How did the alliance end?Before Mecca the medini jews were gone.They betrayed the Muslims and were expelled or eliminated.
>>542894277Thanks for the parallel, i never thought of that.
>>542895380Abraham banished his wife Hagar and son Ishmael to the desert because God told him to after his other wife Sarah demanded it because Ishmael mocked her son/his half brother Isaac (progenitor of the Jews). If the covenant has moved to Mecca and the central part is the place Ishmael survived thanks to a miracle creating the Arabs and Muslims then this is why that story is important to them and not to other religions. In the story Abraham didn't want to banish them but had to anyway, just like in the sacrifice story, he just had to have faith they would survive somehow which is how you get Zamzam. They are still related to Jews through this story and how you get them reappearing in Mecca somehow despite their focus being on Israel.
>>542895235Kek what is this schizo rambling about?
>>542895983stfu>>542895116>>542894277well poison
>>542892732>Why would a Jew perform circumbulation around a pagan site and drape it with the finest yemeni cloth?Because Mohammed said so. There's even a part of the quaran where some guy asks:"Hey Mohammed, why would we do this pagan ritual?""Shut up nigger, I said so."
If you think this is all interesting, then you should research who Waraqa ibn Afwal was and who the Ebionites were, and their influence on Mohammed.There's a reason why Islam and so-called "Judaism" share so many similarities
>>542897150making sense is well poisoning to some sects of semites
>>542897335this is also a valid explanation in Islam
>>542892732then explain this
>>542897586>explain thisThey're proud of being jewish cannon fother, simple. They see themselves as the good jews and the liberal atheist jews like epstein as being bad jews, simple. Here, they proudly sing about the first guy to cloak the kaaba with it's cloth being a Yemeni Jew. How do you think i learned about that historical fact? I saw the vid and immediately fact-checked it:https://x.com/HatsOffff/status/2100997303754469775Epstein and Houtis are two sides of the same coin
>>542897335>Because Mohammed said so.The event of the Himyarite Yemenite Jewish king are centuries before the birth of the zutted
>>542897413>If you think this is all interesting, then you should research who Waraqa ibn Afwal was and who the Ebionites were, and their influence on Mohammed.Yes, i know about Waraqa Ibn Nawfal, but this Jew honoring the pagan cube is centuries older than Muhammad
>>542898243That's completely irrelevant. When I flush the toilet, it was at least a minute after I took a shit.
>>542898301> mohamad told the jews to worship the kaaba that's why the jewish himyarite king did it 6 centuries before mohamad came to beNo. More like Mo himself was following the rabbis who worshipped the cube before him
>>542898762Who cares? It's a historical fact that I shit in the toilet before I flushed it. One thing happened after the other.
>>542892991they believe that the arabs are the descendants of ishmael, the first born son of abraham
>>542898762And just for the record: just because I happen upon a toilet with shit in it, and flush that shit, that does not mean that I took that shit. They're not necessarily connected.
You guys are unironically proving the point Muslims have been making since Muhammad without even realizing it lmaoyoutu.be/RmZG9E4mlCc
>>542895983What about the Petra claim?
>>542899138Unlikely and speculative, the name Kaaba bears in its etymology a reference to a cube shaped building. Petra isn't cube shaped.
>>542899138They used to pray towards Jerusalem until this was changed to Mecca in the Quran. Muhammed goes back there later in his Night Journey. Petra is next to Jerusalem so it isn't a huge stretch they kept it like that for a while and even went there for pilgrimage.Saying they originally made pilgrimage to Jordan instead of Palestine has its own politics behind it and renounces their theological claim to Al-Aqsa Mosque and therefore Palestine. It would also tie in to Mecca being some Ishmaelite copy of the Jewish Temple, the Petra theory saying they were right next to each other (kind of like the Western Wall and Al-Aqsa mosque today) instead of far away in different distant countries.
>>542899456There are cubes in Petra, they called 'Jinn blocks' Nobody knows what they were used for.
>>542900183Those aren't cubes and don't look like religious centers with space of circumbulation + they don't sit in an area of historically massive jewish settlement
>>542900183They are called 'Djinn blocks' because bedouins used to say the former inhabitants worshipped jinn there, their old Nabatean gods. By the time Muslims got there it was a Roman Christian monastery of some kind then it became abandoned.
>>542892991holy pseud
>>542900379We don't know what the site looked in 600 AD, but there are cubes there still. Just the usual coincidences, look away.
>>542900570Those are rectangular prisms and nothing cubic. You may not know how the place was at 600 AD but the ractangular structures are surrounded by mountains with no space of circumbulation, surely, the mountains didn't pop out of nowhere. There's also a multiplicity of them, as if they were pillars whereas the name kaaba implies a singular cubic center of circumbulation. Using the same root, the sauds seek to build the mukaaab which is a cubic commercial center.
>>542892732German Jews are GermansAmerican Jews are AmericansJudaism is Religion !!! not Nationality Not race!Same as Pope is American NationalityNot ChristianBecause Christianity is Religion !
jews, christians, and muslims one true enemy is pagans. really makes you think.
>>542900939Jews did it.
>>542901351Paganism is also Religion!So no they are Ally in Perfect sense!
>>542893173WTF are you checking newfag?
>>542892732Kier as a sandnigger
>>542901224fuck off libtard/kike.
>>542894671>I won't pretend Islam hasn't protected jews from christian attempts to wipe them out,Lmao. You workship jews. Christcucks are retarded
>>542901967Libtards are Mostly Pagans!Judaism was born from Paganism!Study old testament You have it written literallyword by word !Or better take your time and read Talmud Not thorahBut Talmud !Talmud is literally window to Paganism!And no I Am Agnostic !I hate all Religionist group on same level!And No I am not Atheist !!!Atheism aka Satanism is Branch Religion from Christianity !
>>542893555Southern Arabia was not at all monotheistic before Islam, the Jews and Christians in it were, and they referred to their monotheistic god as rahmanan, it’s used till today under the form rahman by Muslims. The Arab Bedouin tribes each had its own god, though some overlap existed, and these gods resembled others from the older semetic and Sumerian pantheons. For example Attar عثتر was widely known worshipped in southern Arabia. It’s these gods that were kept in the Kaaba, representing the major tribes which traded with it. The Bedouins regardless of their religion controlled most trade routes due to their ability to raid them at will, naturally the major civic hubs maintained good relations with them to assure trade, thus the entire collection of different dieties in Mecca, a hub known for hosting seasonal trading festivals.
This is /pol/. 90% of of us are secular.(except christcucks, zutts and kikes)you're not fooling anyone.
>>542902833No, Saudi Arabia had a plethora of monotheistic cults, but southern arabia had monolatric/monotheistic adoptions among the non jewish yemenites and southern arabians which culminated into a state adoption of judaic tradition in the himyarite tradition
>>542892732Occultist here.Islam is an abrahamic faith.Muslims worship the moon (Lilith). The word "Allah" in arabic forms a snake (Samael). Kabbalah jews worship Lilith and Samael so many of them convert to Islam.
