Do we really want the average American to have silent firearms? I don’t think the emotional maturity is there. Historically, it’s always been that if you shot someone you had to own up to the BangBang and explain yourself.
>>542928446Short answer: YesLong answer: Yeeees
suppressors are worthless on a 5.56 rifle, prove me wrong faggots
>>542928446Over here it's considered rude to shoot without a silencer and you get relegated to the 3 benches at the end of the range.
why did you capitalize the 'b' in the word bang, nogunz? Also, herBs.
>>542928446Fuck off liberal commie nigger faggot.
>>542928446Yes, because that would do away with the ridiculous and unconstitutional legislation banning them.
>>542928498dont they>make it quieter>increase its accuracy?
>>542928446Why should anyone have to incur hearing damage by shooting an intruder or trespasser on your property? The founders would be 100% be in favour of them. Just screw the silencer onto your guns you keep by the bed and so on. No need to look for hearing protection or put them on/in. Gun is ready to fire and safer for your ears. As it should be.
>>542928446Gusn are low mkay. Firing in your home is especially bad for your ears in a home defense situation. Make silencers legal for home defense, and hunding to prevent hearing damage, criminalize heavily anyone using a silencer used to commit a crime. Home defense and hunting are not crimes.
>>542928446Guns should come with a mandatory loudener.>why?Because its funny
>>542928598>make it quieterIt's a supersonic round you dumb piece of shit>increase its accuracyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>542928498>suppressors are worthless on a 5.56 rifleIs that why all the cops use them?
>>542928690They don't
>>542928598>increase its accuracyyes you get +5 aim if you install a suppressor
>>542928598>>increase its accuracyonly in battlefield. not in reality.
>>542928672we call that a muzzle break, you get treated like the kid who just pissed himself at assembly
>>542928726yeah if i let the gas build up guaranteed my 5th shot is going high and right by like 3 moa
>>542928446They don't "silence" the way your detective show tee vee portrays. Your panic reaction is just a dumb animalistic association with le eebil badguys wreaking havoc on Metropolis.The only legitimate concern with this medically valuable hearing protection device is that they reduce the effectiveness of urban shot-spotter surveillance networks.
>>542928446>1pbtid>plebbitspeak
>>542928446First off, they are suppressors. They are NOT silencers. They just make PEW PEWs into Pew Pews. You can still hear them, and they still can hurt your hearing. Silencers are different tech. That involves rubber wipes and other disposable parts that lose effectiveness after a few shots. You get a few poof poofs before it becomes pew pew again. Explosions are LOUD. It's in everyone's best interest to make them quieter. People do not like noise. >>542928598Accuracy is unaffected, if made slightly worse depending on type/model. It might help if it increases bullet velocity thanks to lengthening the barrel, but that is typically not the case as suppressors will siphon off the gas to soften the BOOM.
>>542928794>urban shot-spotter surveillance networks.Those were shut off when it was determined it was causing blacks to be arrested more. They don't exist anymore. Also irrelevant in a world with Flock cameras on every corner. You will be recorded on camera shooting someone, even if at a river or somewhere in the woods! AI will spot the gun, tag it, and police will be notified. If you aren't a nigger, they will send cops out. If you are a nigger, the cops will ignore it.
>>542928644>criminalize heavily anyone using a silencer used to commit a crimeThere is no need to make a crime more of a crime. It's already a crime, some one doing a murder is still doing a murder regardless of if their is a loudener or a suppressor on it. And it doesn't stop the police from coming up and ruling a murder with shots to the back of the head a suicide and moving the fuck on. And it won't even be applied to blacks even if you make it an add on crime. That is why no one cares about giggle switches. Blacks are the only one using them, so ATF does jack shit about it. They know blacks are the root too, because when media went after the ATF about it, they refused to address anything about it, because they'd have to admit niggers were using them, and they aren't allowed to show that on leftist media.
>>542928572AI slop. Zero trigger discipline
>>542928908SUPPRESSORS with rubber baffles have them because the weapons they are designed don't have adjustable gas systems and won't cycle when using subsonic ammunition without the rubber baffles. Half the PEW is from the sonic boom generated by the bullet moving through the air at supersonic velocity.
>>542928446I dunno retard do you like to have hearing damage?
>>542928498>suppressors are worthless on a 5.56 rifle, prove me wrong faggotsA suppressor on a 5.56 rifle means it goes from "immediate permanent hearing damage" to "painfully loud but hopefully no permanent damage" when you have to shoot some nigger breaking into your house in the middle of the night.
>>542929392Yeah try it indoors, see what happens retard. All you did was increase the weight and length of your rifle, faggot.
>>542928572He's locked in
>>542929392You're a fucking noguns retard. I have 2 5.56 cans, they're fucking overrated and more decorations than anything.
>>542928446>>542928908>First off, they are suppressorsOP is a jeet or chink shit stirring under an American flag
my suppressed 22 is like 90db insanely fun gun
This thread seems to be dominated by discussion of the merits of silencers which is irrelevant to the question of legality. I think the anons rejecting them as useful are giving ammo (no pun intended) to antigun nuts, even though it's irrelevant.
>>542928446What if you want to shoot somebody in a library, what kind of emotionally mature person blazes away in the library with a loud gun.Didn't think of that did you faggot?
>>542929531Suppressing rimfires like the already pretty quiet .22lr has got to be the most retarded thing a retard like you could do. I guess you enjoy cleaning your suppressors, black lung.
>>542928446SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
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>>542929580I don't give a fuck, I'm tired of slave goyim falling for the suppressor marketing by gay ass guntubers. And fuck you.
I would literally suck any americans dick itt if they could toss a can up here
9mm cans with subsonic ammunition? actually fun and useful. 5.56 cans? get the fuck out of here zogbot cocksucking larping faggot.
Pro:>Stops you and everyone in the area from going temporarily deaf if the firearm needs to be used in an enclosed spaceCon:>Smells like cat piss
>>542928446the actual term is suppressor and they are still loud as fuck moron
>>542928446Do you want to live your life without something long, black, hard and 8" long?
>>542929783>Stops you and everyone in the area from going temporarily deaf if the firearm needs to be used in an enclosed spaceHave you tried it, retard?
>>542929894It's surprising how quickly the sound drops off
>>542929983While I haven’t shot it in my house it’s still much better than not having it. My 10.5 300 was horrible to shoot before sup
>>542929449>Yeah try it indoors, see what happens retard.Like I said, it goes from "immediate permanent hearing damage" to "painfully loud but hopefully no permanent damage."Unlike you, I'm not some nogunz retard talking out of his ass. I've shot 5.56 and everything else, suppressed and unsuppressed, indoors and every other environment. I literally have a suppressed 10.5" AR a few feet away from me as I am typing this. Depending on the exact model of suppressor, a 10.5" plus can is about the same length as an unsuppressed 16", slightly heavier, but significantly quieter than an unsuppressed 16".
>>542928446I agree. The only practical use of a silencer is assassination. Wear hearing protection to practice.
>>542928446>maturityit was used to silence a dirty CEO, i would say yes. but I can see why most men are against it, it looks like a BBC in your hands :D8============D
>>542929783>smells like cat pissBro wtf are you using? lmaoA dry suppressor is just a tube with baffles retard. 22LR smells like cat piss because the powder so that's just you being a limpwrist microdick queer.
>>542929648fuck u and rcmp faggit
>>542929487No, you are the nogunz retard who thought that suppressors were supposed to make a 5.56 Hollywood silent.
>>542928498fuck off bb you dumb faggot tranny.
>>542928446>do we want the average 12.7%'r to have silent firearms even though we know they commit 60.4% of the murders in this country? isn't hearing them to (((our))) advantage?
>>5429302009mm AR supremacy>actually is movie quiet>sounds like typewriter as you mostly hear the action sliding with subsonics
>>542928446silencers aren't silent like in movies. irl when you shoot with a silencer a nearby house explodes.
>>542930109Christ sakes Americans are such fucking losers kek
>>542928446>silent firearmsYou're a moron and that's not ok, kindly kill yourself.
>>542930379Boo hoo nogunz. I'm eyeballing my Zastava right now next to the custom built AR9 and my handgun. Got about 5 other guns in the closet lmaoSucks to suck
Canada would just ask nicely for you to please stop if we invaded lmao absolute cucks
>>542928446if someone is going to murder, they can use a silent knife or sledgehammer.the only people that would use silencers are those hunting or doing target practice in locations where loud noises get the law called on them.sure, assassins would use silencers, but they're already assassins, they dont really care about legality, so the law wont stop them
>>542930361a sparrow 22 coupled with a ruger 10/22 rifle and cci mini mags (cci quiet/subsonic won't cycle the action) is only as loud as the action on the shooter side. you will hear the bullet impact
>>542930503Ok Mr small penis
>>542930207go back to /arg/ before I go over there and rape it again
>>542930503By the way you'll never actually use it on anyone other than yourself [statistically), kek >>>>
>>542930198enjoy your unsucked dick then but ty for inventing poly 80s which the lucky few here used to skirt gun laws
>>542930503>zastavadogshit>ar9Get an sp5 you dumb poorfag piece of shit>handgunIt better not be turkshit
>>542931195not sure what you're talking about but zastava makes a good ak
>>542931297aks are dogshit, fuck outta here
>>542931297My zastava tokarev clone cant hit the broad side of a barn lole didn't think they could make a garbage pistol any worse but they did
>>542931385your tokarev is not an ak you dumb fuck
*sigh* they're NOT silencers, that's a misnomerThey actually make the gun louder
>>542931460wow it's almost as if im shitting (insert jeet joke here) on the manufacturer retardo-kun
>>542931500retarded argument
>>542931660>argument statement dumb cunt stop licking spent rounds the lead is clearly making you smarter
>>542928446>silent firearms
>>542928498You've never shot a gun before let alone an AR platform, prove me wrong
>>542930311>9mm AR>not 300BLKlol fag
>>542931939300BLK is the transgender version of 7.62x39 stay mad
>>542931843I have a suppressor on my 300BLK SBR and it's about as loud as a stapler when i shoot subsonic rounds. It's not """"silent"""" but i wouldn't hesitate to shoot it without ear protection.
>>542930361What about in conjunction with subsonic ammo?
>>542928498>what is sub sonic
>>542930503>most of his guns are gay and afraid to tell anyoneFeels bad man
>>542928446>Do we really want the average American to have silent firearms?For practical reasons, yes. They're fucking loud.
>>542932058you'll never be a real cartridge
>>542932083I've been wanting to build a 300blk sbr, what have you learned in building yours? I was looking at the Spear LT but maybe im a gay faggot
>>542931385You're the biggest nogunz retard in this thread leaf take the L and go. Their main product is not some gay fucking Tokarev lmao
>>542928446I hope one day the internet lets me teleport to the origin of a post, man or machine, and just stomp it to death.
>>542932058that's a surprisingly reasonable opinion
>>542928498If indoors suppressors make very good sense even with 5.56. Makes better sense if you get subsonic ammo
>>542932124Yeah my Romanian PSL is deep closet homo but it also punches holes in steel and explodes soft targets so there's that. Still more manly than any Canadian gun.
>>542932143Did i say that was their main product you dumb nigger?>nogunzRight id bitch about a gun I don't own thank u for clearing that up
Silenced weapons don't matter in a civil war. To actually silence a weapon, you have to use subsonic ammo that cannot penetrate lvl 3 plates. If you use standard ammo, the weapon will still show on both sonar and thermal.
>>542928446A gun with a suppressor is still loud as fuck. It just reduces the need for ear protection
>>542932528depends on such a huge multitude of factors
>>542932456Bro a shitty Eastern bloc meme bb gun is not owning a gun. Maybe in Canada I guess. No AK? Boohoo so sad. Will never know the touch of horny foreign women as you slaughter and emasculate their men.
>>542932456>1457Canadian serial numbers are crazy low. Their license plates are probably at like 8001.
>>542928446Silencers don't silence anything.
>>542928446There is no such thing as a silencer. Suppressors make guns go from deafening to merely very loud.Suppressors should be standard on all firearms to protect the hearing of the users and those around them. Hollywood kikes are responsible for the weird propaganda surrounding them.
>>542932715Lmao imagine Brazilian engineers trying to figure out a baffled tube and failing horribly
>>542932603as other anons have said, joe shmoe is not firing subsonic ammo. I think it's finally good the laws are being relaxed because most regular people encounter the scenario where they're woken up in their homes at night and shooting a gun in your living room to defend against some nigger robber shouldn't permanently destroy your ears
>>542932133If you're going to get one, you should absolutely invest in a nice suppressor as well. I suggest a barrel between 6 to 9 inches. Do your research on the hand guard inner dimensions and the suppressor outer dimensions to make sure they'll play well together. There's nothing wrong with the spear but i personally enjoyed buying all the components separately and building it myself. Not just so i could be autistic about the build but also so i was familiar enough with how the gun functions that id be able to do repairs and troubleshooting myself. If you want high end shit, go shitpost on /k/ and people will give you all the best options. I went with mostly mid tier parts because i only use it sparingly and train mostly for CQC type of usage since it's my home defense gun
>>542932633I do have an ak variant tho
>>542932715You monkeys silenced Arturo Gatti with one
>>542932768You can do better, try again.
If your gun is still loud you're literally doing it wrong. Endcaps, baffles, barrel length, tolerance, powder and all kinds of shit goes into it. 99% are doing it wrong and just don't give a shit because they're stupid.
>>542932840>straight mag>it's an AK "variant"KYS you're literally the worst in this thread
>>542932931You can also jog backwards while firing
>>542932825ogey ty, I think I have a build setup around the spear that I like. I do want to part something out at some point but I kind of want a good functional known gun with known parts and troubleshooting etc for this.
>>542928446Do you want the average American make nusance gun shot bangs all over the country every day? It’s about to be deer season; there will be fun shots going off in every direction throughout the day for weeks.
If i shove a silencer up my ass and fart will anyone hear it?
>>542933031Make sure to get a purse to go with the 300Blacked ya faggot
>>542928446Why would anyone ever need an ASSAULT muffler on a car? Are they planning to do something nefarious like go for a midnight drive to dump a body or do a terrorism or silently run a bunch of pedestrians over, or run an unawares innocent BICYCLIST off the road!Cars should be as LOUD as possible so everyone knows when someone is driving through your county at 2 in the morning, I want everyone to develop permanent hearing loss from LOUD cars, ESPECIALLY car enthusiast because im a massive faggot that is so retarded and mentally ill that I'm not allowed to drive and so I HATE cars and the people who like them.So I will never stop trying everything I can to get laws passed to REGULATE cars into oblivion and finally get them all BANNED, making the road safe for bicyclist and pedestrians; but really its just because I am a massive piece of shit with a COMPLEX about cars and a holier than thou righteous attitude that puts most church goers to shame and thus everyone else has to suffer with me, because the only thing that makes this cold dead heart happy is shitting on what others like.
>>542929581>If you shoot a tree in a forest, will it make a sound?>No, but only if you had a silencer equipped
>>542928908Well that sucks then. How do I get a silent gun
>>542932991oh sorry mutt-kun the valmet m78 isn't an ak variant? wow i learned something new today from another window licking retard
>>542928446Think of the hearing damage.
>>542928446I have suppressors for my 9mm and AR-7. 9mm; it makes it easier on the ears but not like in the movies. On the AR-7 - yikes that is quiet!
>>542929597thread ended here
>>542933110You haven't even consider ASSAULT transmissions. There is NO reason for a car to be able to go from 0 to 200pmh in under a second because of this technology. Cars are ONLY safe when there is a manual transmission.
>>542932771The other anon is right, it's very contextual. I have two suppressors - one on a 300BLK SBR and one on a 308 AR10. I exclusively shoot subsonic rounds in my SBR and it's very quiet, really good for any kind of indoor shooting or situations where you might not have ear protection. It's not ""silent"" but just about. A suppressor on my 308 just takes it from skull-rattling sonic booms to loud pops. I still would never shoot it indoors or without hearing protection, but it makes it much more pleasant to shoot. Both ARs have suppressors but they serve totally different functions.
>>542933298Specialized design combined with specialized ammunition. It will have horrible range and shit penetration and will still not actually be silent.
