The hottest girls in my school were not cheerleaders, so I can never relate to this. Football is also pretty gay imo
>>542989600no, having hope and believing in yourself is the only option you have
>>542989600Life is struggling. No one has had a perfect life.
you're on this rock for maybe 80 years. you might as well get better at it
>>542989668Correct. Lacrosse and field hockey.
No. I self improved and then lie about my age.
>>542989668its more common in the middle of the country where high school sports are a much bigger deal. nobody on the coasts really cares about them so they hot girls dont gravitate to being cheerleaders
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>>542989600No, and peaking in high school is cringe. Shitty thread.
>>542989600you should start self-improving at 13, if this idea only pops up in your head at 25 then yes something is wrong but then there is still hope although you're entering meme territory
>>542989600That post is written like it's from the 1990s before society went insane, so no.
But how are we defining Self Improvement? Could it not be said, to improve one's self...and everything this entails...is only beneficial if we all agree on what it means... to Improve. Indeed....what are we improving? Is Self not a misnomer? If we're all... the same?
>>542989600Yes and no.Yes if you're trying to be some Chad who suddenly lives life on tutorial mode.No if you're pursuing something that has consistent and measurable progress (example, exercise, not gooning 24/7, staying away from drugs or garbage food, so on).
self improvement is not bullshit,semen retention or things like"no nut november"are bullshit,like the op image says,a healthy normal man doenst make plans to stop touching their penis to talk to women
>>542989817Didn’t every teen boy have a phase of being obsessed with working out? I know I did spent a lot of money on weights and supplements just to let it rot after a week meanwhile some broke favela monkey is lifting rice sacks and getting jacked
>>542989791Kek!
>>542989600He's fucking right.
>>542989600No. "Chad" was always 'self improving' and pushing himself. He just tried to make it fun by attaching it to how to be better at hand egg or whatever.
>>542989600No, but do it for yourself or in service to others. Dont fall into a conditional altruism schtick thinking you become more desirable to something or someone, you leave yourself feeling owed something that was never explicitly yours
>>542989922Honestly if retarded grooners can placebo their way into self improvement I say let them
>>542989916>But what if I refuse to understand the beneficial nature of genuine self interest? What if I cut my dick off instead? What then?You should probably be more critical of your own stupidity. Your goal is wisdom, not endless cope cycles.
>>542989922What OP is doing is something called "semantic hijacking", where you take a word or phrase and assert a different meaning for it to try and obscure, undermine, or delegitimize the original idea. "Self-improvement" is obviously a very general idea and unambiguously good (improving yourself, getting better, etc.), but he's trying to turn it into an incel thing where instead the association is with their usual genetic determinism brainrot about how "it was over before it began, there's no point and you should just give up, it's all just cope for not being Chad", etc.
>>542989600It's a scam. There's countless women, Chads, Boomers, and kikes that have the easiest lives and never really worked in their lives.In reality, "self-improvement" bullshit is partly why we are allin this mess and why everything's fucked.If every guy goes to the gym but fat hogs don't do a thing, then the new normal for men is that you HAVE to go to the gym. If everyone goes to college and learns "skills", then that becomes the average and you HAVE to learn skills and go to college.
>>542989980play an instrument, get top grades, learn to yo-yo, do something
>>542990165I prefer calling it "willful retardation" or "disablist."
>>542990511>there's countless people that were fed real food in childhood and gravitated towards beneficial activities and then I decided that the effect was the cause because I'm a brain damaged retardOwn your retardation, retard. Put it in a box and beat it when it tries to make you do stupid shit.
I have never understood faggots who remember school as an idyllic time.
>>542989600Young men are unfortunately blinded by "improvement", thinking they're constantly climbing some peak. What no one sits them down and tells them is that your looks will drastically start declining in your late 20s, as well as your relevance. By the time you cross 30, most other 30 somethings are tied up in their families and small circles and couldn't give a fuck less about whatever you're up to or working on.The reality is a man has a small window, about 20-27, to peak in whatever he's working on, whether it be body or art or social connections or traveling success or whatever. And this is because your looks and youth, and ability to connect with other untethered youth THROUGH whatever it is you're doing, will never exist like that again. If you don't hit it at that time, you missed out on essentially your only time in life to shine.What is really the point of being alive after 30? I'm not really sure. I suppose it's making a family, and reminiscing on your 20s. But yes hobbies and all other shit besides your family and fostering your community are useless at that point
>>542989600If you weren’t getting pussy in your teens and 20s you aren’t going to start magically getting pussy as you get older
>>542990903>The reality is a man has a small window, about 20-27, to peak in whatever he's working on, whether it be body or art or social connections or traveling success or whatever. And this is because your looks and youth, and ability to connect with other untethered youth THROUGH whatever it is you're doing, will never exist like that again. If you don't hit it at that time, you missed out on essentially your only time in life to shine.This is blackpilling bullshit. Your own belief in this lie is what keeps you down. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>>542990903>doomer faggot thinks his decaying body is caused by ageOi, retard. You're eating garbage.Also, you're a memefag, so you were probably indoctrinated by your own retarded propaganda. EAT MORE FUCKING BEEF.
>>542990165can incels swim, ride bikes, roller/ice skate? what were these people doing with their lives? these are basic things and this is what the meme is saying even if they didn't intend it to
>>542990165One can become immune to Semantic hijacking by learning the etymology of words, and contrasting meaning
>>542991167Wait, I haven't used the "words mean things" line in a while. I have erred.
>>542989600It's true, but did you really have to say it?
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The only self improvement is fixing your looks facially, and to 10% of effect, improving your musculature. It's a night and day difference. I did plastic surgery. It was genuinely subtle enough that family members didn't notice (I was gone for a year).I've had jawline filler and stuff as well. The way women treat you completely changes, and they don't even know why. I had a long time friend who friend zoned me start to fall for me literally 3 hang outs after getting the work done. Some stuff can't be fixed. Some stuff can.
>>542989600Look up dabrowski levels of development.Normie is a really low tier existence. Experiencing the trauma of not fitting in due to exceptionality is a PRE-REQUISITE for becoming a great person.If you're using self-improvement to better mask as a normie then you're doing it wrong. Self-improvement is to make life work for YOU. And to leverage what makes you different.You can trick a beautiful normie woman by masking really hard for a long time, but the sex gets old really quick. Not because it's bad, just because you're not sharing it with someone who actually gets you. It is really lonely.
>>542989600>Is “self improvement” bullshit?ya for the most part you are born attractive or not. your genes express itself in your body, and so you are a chad or not, and women will desire you or not based on that.you are judged on "growth" - how you grow, like a plant or flower, or cow in the herd - if you grow well then you are of value - grow tall, grow nice skin, grow nice full head of hair, grow a nice working brain - its all growth according to genes and environment. you dont control how you grow for the most part. hit the gym and eat right is so far downstream, but still important, but its the best you can do after being shit into existence.
>>542990989Weird, this has been my experience after starting working out in 30s, and it does feel like magic.
>>542991736>retards are paying for plastic surgery instead of chewing gumNGMI, tranny adjacent retard.
>>542990608>Own your retardation, retard. Ignoring the 2nd thing that I said.
>>542990903Does a quick Google of successful artists and musicians who didn't get their break until their 40s, the list is pretty long. Gtfoh
>>542989600>self improvement to attract womengay and homosex.>self improvement for richesnigger tier>self improvement for the Lordbased
>>542989600>Is “self improvement” bullshit?
>>542992103>stop ignoring my retardationUh. You might want to try again.
>>542989600foids are dysgenic machines working non stop 24/7 selecting in favour of beast like behaviour and looks and stupidity. the anon who wrote that post is bluepilled in a way that shouldn't be possible in the current era.
>>542992149Is your name on it?
>>542990903>By the time you cross 30, most other 30 somethings are tied up in their families and small circles and couldn't give a fuck less about whatever you're up to or working on.This has the potential to be true to a frighteningly degree.Don't ask me how I know.
>>542990903End of my window coincided with Covid. Thanks for tacitly encouraging me to nut up and kill myself. Not going to do it though. I live out of spite.>>542992234Women literally do think they deserve everything because they have a pussy. It's fucking nuts.
>>542992289Case and point:Young European men and women and young American white men and women. The average American white guy looks as good his European counterpart, but the average American white woman is a fat smelly hog while the Euro woman looks like a goddess.In the US, the American young white man is competing against other guys of his same attractiveness level for the average white American woman which is a fat slob. The Euro guy is competing against similar guys for actually worthwhile women.Apply this to jobs and anything else:US is if everyone had a Bachelor's degree but only McDonald's jobs existed. Europe is if everyone had a Bachelor's degree but there were mostly Bachelor's degree jobs available.
>>542989600You should do self-improvement for yourself, not for women. The only way to get Stacy as a nerd is to become a billionaire tech mogul.
>>542992373Yes and no. However, from studies, Chads are usually higher IQ too. In the grand scheme of both human biology and biology as a whole, evolution and natural selection was almost wholly on the male end. If there was a famine, women would out last men due to their fat reserves. If there was a war, women would be just raped and enslaved for sex. The men would be killed or enslaved for labor.Most females of a species breeds while most males get killed at a young age.
>>542992442In my girlfriend's country, it's weird learning how her brother's like 30 something and he still has friends and goes to parties and shit while he's a dad. It's weird.Most 30 some year olds in the US are either depressed single losers wanting to rope or some family man coper.
>>542992027>Weird, this has been my experience after starting working out in 30s, and it does feel like magic.being lean/getting muscles can def make a huge difference ; if your fat covered up your body or you were underdeveloped
>>542989600These meme is retarded and always has been. It's telling anons they're genetic trash for not adapting to social conditions that are barely a century old. If anything the better adapted you are to this dystopia, the more domesticated livestock you are. Being told you're bad livestock is probably the best compliment one can receive in this world.
>>542990903best to hook up with a chick in college and then marry her 1-2 yrs after college and pump out some babiesmissing that train its hard to get back on
>>542989668The hottest girl in my school was an exchange student. Growing up in the suburban Midwest sucked.
>>542989600no, notice how these demoralization threads never show up on the sabbath
>>542993337>Growing up in the suburban Midwest suckedAll ugly fatties that are already balding at 16.
>>542991736How much did it cost you? Been thinking of doing stuff like this to prep for a political career.
Half.You really don't need to "improve" much about yourself. Most of it is actually embracing who you are and not being an insecure fagot about it. Embrace whatever cringe hobby or look you love, let the liberals call you a Nazi, call out your retarded friends and don't back down on holding them accountable and hold true to your own values and boundaries. You even need to accept that some people are different and aren't for you and to just move on. You can't control everything so let them do what it does or what it wants, but that doesn't mean putting up with bullshit making your life worse.
>>542993278>best to hook up with a chick in college and then marry her 1-2 yrs after college and pump out some babiesNah. Best thing to do is knock up a 13 year old, kidnap her to another state/country, change names, and breed her with a fuckton of racist white babies as "Cletus and Joan McGregor"
>>542989600Self improvement is not bullshit.You're just a nigger trying to find justification in being a lazy nigger.
>>542989600lol classic lazy incel copegets weird too anywayit is what it is, read more and solve things to be less dumblift and push to be less weakeat better to feel less shitectself improvement is a list of grinding efforts with known rewards
>>542990037>posting a screenshot of a thumbnailThat's a new level of brain rot I didn't even know existed
>>542993707>read more and solve things to be less dumbAnd what does that get you? It doesn't get you a job. It doesn't condense the capital required for you to start a business. It does nothing except allowing you to keep your situation as a slave for a kike more bearable.>self improvement is a list of grinding efforts with known rewardsWhat are these rewards? Someone in the 60's could get a job all day just typing and could afford a family and a house. Nowadays, jobs expect that at the very minimum and that job won't even pay you enough to live ALONE.>Inb4 hur dur, life was so much harder hur dur Boomers were a fluke hur durIf technology is making everything so much better and easier, we sure as hell aren't seeing it. Life is becoming harder DESPITE technology. It's actually technology for why things are becoming harder and more competitive.>Well hur dur, lift, read meditate, just be happy to exist >Well hur dur, pray to God. God is king hur durThere is no God.
bettering yourself for the sake of others is pinko think-o fagbots
>>542989600What this comment says is good to bring up, as incels often get gaslighted with muh self improvement and told we're negative or not trying.However, it's still an NPC take, which is why this comment is so viral.>things are supposed to be handed to you>if you have to try, it means you're worthless in the first place>if you weren't worthless since birth, things would be handed to you and you would never have to worryAgain I see his fundamental point and there's truth to it. But there's dignity in starting out in life with bad circumstances and making the best of it, too.It's not either everything is handed to you or you just suck and trying is pointless. That's retarded. It's also not either you're a 100% cookie cutter normie or a nofap retard / genetic shit.This was written by the chad worshipping type of anon who thinks men who have everything handed to them are better than everyone else, and everyone else, even if they still have a good outcome by making the best of the hand they were dealt, are still inferior by virtue of having to try. That's so stupid.
>>542993949You don't understand he's hammering his own butt, and if you walk around it, it looks like he's holding his dick that's rising.
>>542989668>I can never relate to thisNobody would ever claim that you could.
>>542989668Saaaar I be dancing and making favorite howl of diarrhea chutney and white womens are swooning. Timmy no understanding
>>542993707>incel copethis comment is bullying incels you fucking idiot. it basically saying that either your life is easy in the first place (whether by having a good looking face, a rich dad, or just a cookie cutter normie life with loving parents and not poor or ugly), or you're worthless and shouldn't bother, and even if you make the best of a bad hand, you're still trash for not having it good since birth, that is fucking retardedan incel would not put it like that, incels do not worship chads. an incel would've basically said "some people are privileged over others who have to deal with immense challenges", or similar, not this "you're either a cookie cutter normie or worthless" bullshit
>>542993707also your comment reads like the kind of anon who thinks not masturbating for a couple months will give you superpowers
>>542989791Best jewboys can get until their uncle gets them a job at the bank
>>542994456Many incels are normalfag adjacent. Believe me, I used to interact with many of them. They aren't much better than normies either. Normies are often good people and not malicious. Incels can be very malicious, especially to other incels.
>>542993540Politics is Hollywood for ugly people you are perfect as you are >>542990903>>542992442>>542993051>By the time you cross 30, most other 30 somethings are tied up in their families and small circles and couldn't give a fuck less about whatever you're up to or working on.This really does suck. Your friends disappear when they start families but I'd argue this is a huge function of how fucked the economics are of starting a family now. There's no one to stay at home, no one sleeps, you're just not making enough money for childcare, you're isolated from your community, had to move far away from extended family for career, etc. It just sucks, especially if you're a late bloomer and finally enjoying life. Your interests and concerns with others your age just do not overlap at all. And people have the gall to criticize age gap relationships. You also want to rescue your friends who are turning to dust in front of you because they're overworked but there's nothing you can do, and you worry if you follow their path it'll hit even worse because you're older. It's a lot to think about and the obvious answer is move somewhere cheap and do remote work and find someone you like, but they're gonna be a needle in a haystack. Or find someone attractive in a metropolitan area who like you wants to get the fuck out.
>>542989600Jesus christ when I tell people incel shit is built to give men bad advice to make more incels this is exactly what I'm thinking of. >be friendless loser in catholic gradeschool>picked on by parents, staff and students>get back in public for junior high>still a social outcast and sometimes I have to get in fist fights when someone hits me unexpectedly >walk into a underage concert venue one day after a guitar lesson>open mic night so I get in for free its pretty much just teen staff>decide to keep going back, realize really quick I'm stuck as a guy so I should make the most of it >go in most Saturdays and grind my social skills>get good at approaching people, get good at asking for contacts, get good at making the first call, get good at going to a first dates>I had to fail at each of those steps lots of times>within a year I have a huge friend group, I'm dating more women than anyone I know and I never even have to get in fights anymore. All because I actually did the work of changing me life. Posts like OP are crab bucket bullshit
>>542994852>It's a lot to think about and the obvious answer is move somewhere cheap and do remote work and find someone you like, but they're gonna be a needle in a haystack. Or find someone attractive in a metropolitan area who like you wants to get the fuck out.US is a depressing shithole. My girlfriend's country is so much better despite it being "muh brown country", "muh shithole" and the wages being a fraction of what Americans make.I see only old people here. There are NO young people except for degenerate druggies and nignogs. While there I see young couples going out to eat, having sex, knocking each other up lolol. And they can AFFORD IT and there's very little societal pressure. And there's so many fucking NEETs there, it's insane actually.
self improvement is never bull shit, what is bull shit is doing it to impress someone or for pussy. You should do it for your health, educate your self in economics to improve your wealth not for pussy. So Self improvement is never bs, its just your reasons or agenda behind it that can can be.
>>542989600Imagine getting into football for the foids lol.ngmi
>>542994852>you are perfect as you areNah. I'm not aiming to be a career politician. Excuse me, I'm aiming for dictatorship and you know to earn that position you have to make foyim ovaries tremble. I don't wanna bonesmash for obvious reasons. I'm just gunna need chadjaw looks and then work on my voice to trick the cattle long enough to get into position. Again, how much for everything?
Give the rate of Traumatic Brain Injury in football and it's increasing violence and harder hits, anyone who plays in HS is going to wind up a vegetable with early onset dementia/Alzheimer's in a nursing home with a 300lb nigger nurse. Hope it was worth it for the couple good years early in life.
>>542989600Being a football player or a cheerleader just happens to you, and takes no work whatsoever lmao.
>>542992561>Not going to do it though. I live out of spite.Godspeed, fren
>>542993949Its faster to screencap webp than convert>>542994324Symptom of brands doing sex subliminals on everything, they wouldnt have thought this way back then
>>542995230>having sexyou witness this?
>>542994324Are you retarded? That's not what I was replying about. Kys bot
>>542994074it gets you smarter stronger whatever you are wanting for yourselfthe past is dead you live nowthere is no why you want to be fat weak stupid ect that's an option, go for itwouldn't recommend it>>542994456brain too tiny for nesting?it's an incel's idea of idyllic highschool life written from the pov of the target of his ireit uses the copes they use for why effort will yield nothing so i've never tried>>542994482that's the weirdness i was talking aboutcomes out of nowhere and that weird fetish/religious thing happens a lot more with incels than gen popjust go ahead and type those keywords and see what kind of writer pops up lol
>>542995926>you witness this?Lol, in a way yeah. There's a lot of "hotels" in her country. We some times have sex there But also other young couples come to fuck, and you can hear the women moaning.
>>542989600You can't be talking about a communist revolution or whatnot so you have to go around sounding like that but the results of wars make the preferences the preferences.
>>542989600Cy-Fair HSBFND
>>542989600Chad doesn't have to improve, he's already at the top just like that. You can go ahead and be your best self, you'll be better than than your worst sure, but it isn't guaranteed your best is a match against Chad's best.
>>542994443your sport is just gay, sorry
>>542989600The individuals in that photo are student athletes who train seriously and who met each other through their shared activities. If anything it's an argument for self-improvement. The only reason it gets any traction is because shills like you are actively trying to blackpill and harm 4chan users and the site ownership and moderation largely agrees with your goals, particularly in the case of /pol/.
>>542994852
>>542996487smacks of magical thinkingirl big money interests don't spend just to hurt people, or 'just in case'if there is no demonstrable material gain there is no spendingmight catch some of the new money types but actual richoids are stingy lol
It's funny because all the guys i heard this from were dead by suicide or overdose before the age of 35. Eat it up, I still got pussy and did a bunch of drugs in high school.. I'm alive and still getting pussy and not married. Sucks to suck.
>>542996774/pol/ was a non-trivial propaganda machine during the 2016 US Presidential election. They don't want anything like that to happen again. There are papers published about the need to shit this place up and about suggested methodologies towards that end.
>>542996487Nice try fedkike. We can smell your bullshit still. Western man will be too demoralized to fight in your fake and gay global war. Sorry. That's life!
>>5429896001pbtid
>>542989600Yes, denial of genetic determinism is just a method of narcissists to force you to become a vehicle for their delusions they themselves don't really believe in.
>>542996906>implying self-improvement only matters for zogbotshave some self-respect
>>542996863well now we're spread across several different 'they's that shit was never an issue, they still try using models based on forums and social media on this placeman sociology, not even once xD at least a pro gamblers stat based stabs in the dark can beat a coin toss, these assholes can't even do that xD
>How DARE a man in his 30s self improve to get the teen love they didn’t get in high school! How dare they! Why won’t they just lay down and die? Why won’t they just move on and find a hobby?I’m going to get a teen girlfriend and LARP as a teenage boy and pretend I am in high school again while we go on mall dates to Hot Topic and then get boba tea.Try and fucking stop me.
>>542989600You know that's an old picture from another era because the guy the blonde is making out with is white.
>>542996926Many such cases.
>>542989600To the degree that redpill grifters tell you that you can become Chad and once you do all your problems will be solved, yes.
>>542997002(((You))) will not re-moralize western men on my watch Mosche. They will all be too fat, lazy, antisemitic, and straight to die for Pissreal. (((You))) will just have to cope and seethe about it.
>>542997090A b o m i n a t i o n
>>542989600No im still fat
>>542997438Amusing approach to demoralization shilling.
>>542989600The "being yourself in nondescript ways" meme of the hippies definitely is bullshit, and that is where these blackpills come from.People will only like you for what you are good for.
>>542997744A mere mortal such as yourself could never comprehend my designs.
>>542998134>implying
>>542998238With every post you prove yourself more Jewish than the last.
>>542998305no u
>>542997083>Take a seat and tell us about /pol/.
>>542989600not entirely. I'm 5'4 and black and make 225K base salary as an attorney. I wouldn't be able to do that without having tried to self improve.
>>542989600Only Jews are against goodlooking white guys being with goodlooking white girls.Race mixing is what you should be angry at, you retard.
>>542989600Self improvement is meant for yourSELF not for some foid whore.YOU are supposed to feel better, be stronger and more powerful.Weather a foid or anyone else notices you or not is completely irrelevant that's why its called SELF improvement.If you're doing anything in life so others clap or notice you, it means you're doing it wrong.Do things for yourself and no one else.
>>542995962No that's the joke that what I said was unrelated to what you said. I just read it again and it still made me laugh we just have different senses of humor I guess.
>>542996774Propaganda is the benefit in and of itself. There is a reason ben shapiro doesnt need to be profitable or why Larry Edison hired the kike jewess Bari Weiss to run these new agencies into the ground.
>>542989668I think it's more of a midwestern thing.My HS had like a dozen different sports teams I can think of off the top of my head and it didn't have the linear social hierarchies you see in TV.
