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What's actually happening, /pol/?
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Nick is correct
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>>543030471
Men are being infected by the incel brain virus
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>tl;dr
only poor people are lonely
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>>543030471
Don’t bother with OP plebbit post
Here is the article

You've probably heard that men are bad at making friends; that they tend to be lone wolves; that they just aren't socialized to really understand how to make plans—and, as such, we're in the middle of a male loneliness crisis. Well, not quite: Slate contributor Nick Keppler looked at the data, and it turns out that men aren't more lonely than women. But there is one particularly lonely group: poor people. Lower-wage careers used to involve camaraderie—now gig work keeps drivers and shoppers and helpers separated from one another, so there goes making friends on the job. Church attendance is on the decline, and hanging out at bars and restaurants costs more than ever. We should not blame people for their loneliness, writes Keppler. After all, anyone's financial luck could turn, making us part of the lonely class, too.
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>>543030854
That’s not true, most people post Covid aren’t making friendships anymore.
No one wants to befriend NPCs.
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>>543030471
>I'm going to tell you what 2+2 is, and I won't give you some lane cop out answer like 4
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>>543030471
that the only people capable of defeating the jews, destroying their JWO and killing 99% of humanity to return order onto Earth are already in the path to becoming supernatural beings for only a power that trascend that of the jew and their God can fix the situation we are in

In this process, those brave warrios promise to maintain their virginity intact so that it be delivered to their pure maidens that are untouched by the filth of the JWO in Valhalla when time is due
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>>543030471
>cofee number 12

WHAT
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>>543030471
women aren't throwing themselves at men because they aren't as desperate for money
men are finding out that actually seducing women is hard as fuck and maybe not worth the effort
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>>543030471
Men got redpilled on women through a confluence of factors. MGTOW was essentially the village elders/divorcees of the Gen X and Boomer generation telling young men not to get married, and to put themselves and their interests before women as to not become invested in women or get burned by the family court system. 'Incel' was an accusatory label applied to men for not engaging, or having chauvinistic predispositions, despite the term being created by a foreveralone foid blogger in the mid 90s. Blackpilling takes a more nihilistic stance, where men assume themselves to be incompatible with the contemporary dating market because of upbringing, or things out of their control, such as facial aesthetics or height. Its nothing more than the superficiality of women and their treacherous nature becoming more revealed to young men as they look to alternatives - such as AI girlfriends and waifus, prostitution, troon/male companionship, and celibacy/monkhood/asceticism.
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To get to the real root of the problem we have to go back about 3300 years to the time of a man called Moses
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Lower work hours, quality of life improved
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>>543030471
Just become a Jehovah's witness
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>>543030854
Yes, young men are poor because they're being deliberately shut out of the job market by Jews and their pet Jeets. Want to know why? Pic related.

>>543031492
Jews control all dating sites, and can now pick and choose who gets hooked up with who. Some people aren't allowed to meet others at all. 15 years ago any 6/10 could easily meet another 6/10 on OKCupid, and after a few dates could get laid. Then Jews changed the business model.
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>>543030685
Maybe men wouldn't be being infected by "incel brain virus" if women had sex with people other than chad. Everything women do proves incels right.
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>>543030471
too many foreigners in the image
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>>543030471
Fucking lugenpress
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>>543030854
Wow, it's an article that doesn't say "men are lonely because they're stupid and stinky and ugly and they deserve it lol".
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Women have a different mentality towards dating and overall socio-cultural expectations
Men are stuck with a different era mentality and feelings which weren't from that long ago
Horny fuckers now use quick apps or unashamed direct skills towards their goals
Fear of ostracization due to women having a massive victim card
No spaces and time for honest socialization
No money

In that order.
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>>543031492
Excellent post
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>>543030808
>>543030685
>>543030554
Women gave themselves fake jobs on tax payer dime by voting to enslave men because every woman alive supports slavery. Never ever trust what adult children females have to say on politics, they always have secret evil motives and seek power over men.
The future is using taxes to pay the strongest smartest men to have artificial womb children. Obviously women would rather party than have kids, the solution to western birthrates will be using their tax dollars to pay lonely men to have kids lmao
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>>543030854
We just have an excess of males and need to kill most of them.
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>>543032473
least pussywhipped cuckservative
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Hypergamy is REALLY bad these days, that's what happened. 3 guys in my extended friend group made it to 30+ yo with no gf, and they went to shill Christianity in Asia in the hopes of getting a wife from there. Crazier thing is that they're pentecostals, and those niggas would usually get married really young around here. If it got this bad in Romania I don't even wanna think about other more developed countries.
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>>543030471
Men are rediscovering their dignity
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>>543030685
men are realizing women, derived from the satanic side of the spectrum, are not worth dealing with, and would rather choose hobbies over pussy
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>>543033234
The problem is that they aren't choosing hobbies. It's even in the article.
>He attributes his loneliness to a lack of hobbies.
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>>543033234
Men with hobbies still get pussy bro, you just have a shitty personality and no social skills
>>543032093
This is just bullshit pussy ass woe is me talk, if you weren't such a little bitch looking for something to blame on why you're unfuckable, it's over bro
The only reasons your ancestors probably got laid in order for you to exist was a family dowry, AKA you're also fucking doomed to pay for sex too
Live with it
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>>543033553
Yep, it's all about personality.
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homosexual rightoids like bap and spic fuentes are creating cults of twinks so they can rape them
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>>543033685
Yeah jackass, you see it all the time
Tub of lard fucking beer gut neckbeard jackasses, balding losers, crackheads in and out fucking prison, etc
They are still able to get girlfriends, you're just an unlikable person
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>>543030471
we are becoming wizards, with power to fight off succubae
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>>543030854
So they aren't entirely wrong, they just aren't identifying the major problems.
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>>543030471
> YOU don't get to decide when someone is a victim!
> Unless it's you, then EVERYONE ELSE gets to decide
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>>543033891
Uh oh melty
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>>543030471
sweet globohomo art. can't believe they're still using the sloppa.
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>>543033896
Maybe you are becoming a wizard - I am long married and became a father this year. Life is what you make of it.
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>>543032473
I agree that we have an excess of males, an excess of simpcucks ready to defend the rotten system at any moment that is
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>>543030471
Women report being just as lonely as men, so it's universal. The solution is to go to therapy and more money for them programs.

Here's the problem, imo, from a different article:

“People who are isolated, and especially young men who are isolated, are vulnerable to the appeals of some false community,” political scientist Robert Putnam said in an interview with the New York Times. “Eager recruits to the Nazi Party in the 1930s were lonely young German men, and it’s not an accident that the people who are attracted today to white nationalist groups are lonely young white men.”

https://newuniversity.org/2025/06/19/is-there-really-a-male-loneliness-epidemic/

Save your money on therapy and don't take the soma. I know you don't want to hear about "socioeconomic conditions" or Marxist alienation. I know that go to church and get a wife, is the best advise you'll get from the boomers and the cuckservatives, so they aren't much help. Don't waste too much time bitching about roasties. Just do it as catharsis and then move on. There are plenty of traps set on the incel road because they are concerned about what Putnam is talking about. They'd rather funnel you into becoming a violent terrorist so that they can seize more power. Avoid those traps. I sit here alone, typing this. So like everyone else, I really don't have a solution. And I don't even see it as a problem anymore.
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>>543031492
Reminder blackpill was an attempted coopt of MGTOW by jews to try and demoralize men instead of empower them to realize the game is rigged and they have been made completely useless by a 0 outcome welfare nanny society.
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>>543030854
>be poor male
>invisible to the world
>be poor female
>could get a date in under 10 minutes anywhere in the country
>men pay for literally everything
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>>543030471
It aint a crisis. I choose to be alone.
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>>543030471
kike
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>>543030808
>>543030854
They need to redirect all the welfare money going to turd worlders to sensitive young men instead
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>>543030471
Somehow this will come back and say that women are the real victims or women are the ones facing a loneliness epidemic etc
Meanwhile its never been easier for a hole of any hotness ranking to score a gaggle of simps all vying for her
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>>543034131
The woman is the one who decides to marry you and have your children, not you. She will also decide how long the relationship lasts.
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>>543033891
Why does the truth make you assmad?
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>>543034363
>“Eager recruits to the Nazi Party in the 1930s were lonely young German men, and it’s not an accident that the people who are attracted today to white nationalist groups are lonely young white men.”
Bullcrap. Even women voted for Hitler in great numbers. This Putnam is probably just a jewish shill trying to tarnish white supremacy(if you don't want to be replaced by niggers you're a >supremacist) by associating it with inceldom
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>>543030942
>No one wants to befriend NPCs.
Exactly. Lefties basically became amateur KGB from 2020-2022 and a lot of them are still at it. Being friends with, or even on the radar of, radicalized leftists is a fucking liability now. There's no more laughing off your friend's silly politics. Every time there's a Charlie Kirk or Brian Thompson incident, the masks slip. You also don't know what the future holds. COVID and the bs of 2020 came on in only a matter of months. If stuff like that happens again, they'll be right back to wanting to put their friends and neighbors in camps. Better to just not be involved with them. This is all just practical safety precautions to. That's without getting into the irrevocable disgust any sentient person had for them now.
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>>543034634
women don't understand the concept of a volcel. you are just lumped in with all the other incels aka average guys.
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>>543034363
I also think your post is bullcrap
> Women report being just as lonely as men, so it's universal.
Just is not true. There are plenty if metrics and studies showing that not to be the case. Its never been easier for a woman to find a partner, the mentality is more picky since she has such a wide variety to chose from. So it wrongly appears as them not “finding mr right” = being alone but they at the same time have high body counts, dates, and simps.
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>>543030471
yea, we decided hookers are cheaper.
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>>543030471
Theres a female loneliness crisis, and its all mens' fault
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>>543035105
legal over there?
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>>543030471
>What's actually happening?
If your Dad didn't make more money or at least know how to hold onto money better than your Mother you would never have been born. We are now 2 generations into straight up lying to boys that women want love and not paypigs or a big dick and the cognitive dissonance is doing irreperable damage to young men - to the exclusive short term benefit of young women and old men who weren't lied to.
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>>543034892
Yea, kikes are pushing Bolshevism, and they know the outcome (Isaiah 19). And they know we know:

“Jewish influence was one of the chief causes of the disintegration that took place in Germany. If at the decisive hour National Socialism had not stepped in and brought this process of disintegration to a standstill, a condition of strife would have resulted, in which everybody would be against everybody else, and then we would have had that state of affairs which goes by the name of Bolshevism.”
-Rudolf Hess

Therefore they pushed "incel" from the top down. This created a bunch of grifts and honeytraps, also as expected:

“The Party must see to it … that society is not compartmentalized, so that everyone can quickly assert his gifts. Otherwise discontent raises its head, and the Jew finds himself in just the right situation to exploit it.”
-Adolf Hitler
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>>543035329
no, but how would the state stop it.
if they were smart they make it legal and collect the taxes. We have some 30.000 women inside romania working as hookers and they dont collect taxes.
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>>543035329
not entirely legal but it's at the same tier as jaywalking, and not really enforced. Real problem is that the prostitutes here look like this
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>>543030471
Women benefit more from marriage and dating than men do. A man has to invest time, energy, and money to make a relationship work. Women contribute nothing but their holes; most women don't even offer men deep or interesting conversation.
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>>543030471
>So Much Darker
Niggers, obviously.
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>>543035447
AHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK
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>>543035046
The first couple of sentences I was just summarizing the slate article, which I quickly skimmed for buzzwords, desu. My actual opinion is the last paragraph that I wrote. Sorry, if that wasn't clear.
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>>543030854
That actually makes some sense. Min wagies like factory workers, miners etc were stuck there for life with allmost no hope of promotion the best hope for them was union organising. Now much of those jobs are gone or manned by gig workers who dream of success or immigrants and even min wagies see eachoter as competition, so no real friendships or camadarie can develop.
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>>543033553
it's not that i can't get pussy, it's everywhere i look. it's just i'm not about to spend my time and resources to get it. i'd rather spend it on myself. as a bonus i don't have to listen to a bitch bitch
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>>543035683
>mgtow is trannies
theoretically the system can last forever off of women that produce nothing yet get paid as much as back breaking labor and send all their money to asia
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>>543035747
Yes all consequences of our multicultural society. Get in the melting pot chud
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>>543035747
That's basically why I just roll my eyes at Marxists. We've outsourced the organic factory conditions to China, yet commies can mobilize a general strike--the first in like 100 years--to protest ICE. RIGGGGHT. And if you can't see that they are protesting against themselves, you might just be a true believing communists lol.
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>>543030471
Have you guys ever read this shit? It's epic.
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>>543033553
>>543033891
>your ancestors were in bullshit providerships with women who weren't actually attracted to them
>most guys are just jestermaxxing and providermaxxing
????? That proves blackpill right you idiot.
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>>543035883
you run out of money
or the money runs out of value
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>>543036152
nah, blackpill is an op, the reason men got wives is because they could actually produce things. Agriculturally this manifested as clearing land for fields and farming. The establishment then did their best to make that lifestyle untenable in order to stuff men into cities to fight the soviets. So the communists desegregated the cities and threw niggers and foreigners at them to take their jobs and nuke their property values. Then they gave half their money to women which produce nothing. Modern service jew economy, focused solely on maximizing production and profit, kills the male role. Men have been devalued into the dirt and women and minorities are paid for nothing. Effectively white male genocide. Jews coped with this by inventing the blackpill, since the only thing that matters to them is sex. Obviously it's not your productive capacity that's been taking from you, you're just ugly or a dysgenic. Funny how this is actually the qualities of a jew
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>>543034840
If something happens, I'll find another one. Never had trouble on that front.
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>>543033504
We aren't allowed to have hobbies. Ask any married man in 2026 what it takes to get their wives to let them enjoy themselves for a few hours. You come back to an absolute clusterfuck of a house with stinky nasty food rotting on the stove, dishes piled to the ceiling, kids clothes and toys scattered everywhere, the wife putting in unpaid hours for Shlomo Shekelburg on her laptop while the kids watch Minecraft brainrot on TV at 9pm, then she has the balls to bitch at you for being gone all day while she has to "do everything around the house". Then the minute you start regulating the dystopian hellscape (and being a fucking man of the house) the bitch has the balls to get upset at you being upset because the house isn't the way you left it when you went out. But goddamn if the house isn't spiffy when she gets back from getting her nails and hair did or that massage at Hand & Stone it's all over for you. Bitches have zero hobbies other than trying to look young and wo be to you if you try to get in their way, but if you just want to have a few hours a week to enjoy your existence it's an existential crisis. NEVER EVER EVER GET MARRIED. Go ahead and call me a Jew, but I'm married since 2009 and have two kids so take it or leave it.
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>>543036955
Eh, nuclear families was a failure socially, they're supposed to have a bunch of other women to hand out with and raise kids. The human at the end of the day is an animal, not some cog in a machine. The female condition has been purposefully ignored for hundreds of years. Men aren't actually supposed to be gone all day every day, and women aren't supposed to be in a box all day. I guess feminist jews looked at this and said "duuuuuuh, what if the roles were reversed, that might fix something" great idea you retarded cunts
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>>543030471
>so much darker
add it to the list
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>>543036955
I am a married man in 2026 lol - and I don't have this problem.
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>>543035545
And no jews? they literally brought them to our countries to destroy us inside out.
Why are u not even naming jews, are you jewish?
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>>543035883
The petrodollar system is the process of collapse as we speak. They can do to us what they did to the British Empire, dissolve the American empire and then show up somewhere else, but where? They can't show up in China, they don't have the genes to blend in. They can't just go back to London and re-boot the British Empire. They need a big world war to shake things up. And that seems to be what they are going for.
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>>543030685
whatever, cunt
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>>543036955
I'm married and spend an hour nearly every night painting minis. And my wife likes crocheting and gardening. I think your brain is getting rage baited too easily from this place and tiktok.
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>>543036418
Retard, only being able to have sex with women who are with you for your resources is still a confirmation of blackpill. Virtually everyone on earth can have sex if they providermaxx, that doesn't make blackpill false.
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>>543030471
https://archive.is/29TnY
OP is a nigger
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>>543037932
I don't think they will get it, at least not in the way they want. They can't just printing press their way into conflict anymore, people are too wise to their schemes and all the "enemies" are equally militarily demoralized. Why do you think they've went so hard into drone warfare? It's not an advancement by any means, it's the only way they can keep the war machine pumping. There will be some form of reconciliation. Every facet of their reality is so illegitimate while also professing to never have a world war again. International spying and election interference isn't even illegal.. All the institutions are a joke. The philosophy and legitimacy they operate on is completely disconnected from reality, the bread and circuses is ineffective
>>543038327
Women need productive output from a man or they die, it's simple biological fact. Sure the state can feed them but single mothers only produce female hating criminal offspring. They are hardwired to find men and lock them down. Their irate and manic behavior is linked to their false belief that they would be able to survive on their own. Quite simply, male kindness is all it really takes, of course they stomped this into the mud and twisted their heel, then spit and urinated on it, because the modern woman is one level of delusion from being completely feral. It's a cooperative relationship, and men will naturally hurl themselves into danger to protect it. Basic humanity has been stripped away
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>>543038327
Women need a provider and a protector, and men need a nurturer and a mother. This isn't blackpill, it's the motherfucking human condition. Being able to provide for your family is the goddamn floor of masculinity, like having a functioning uterus is for a woman. There are many other things that make a relationship work, feel fulfilling, etc - but these are the basics, and whining about them is fucking retarded.
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>>543038942
well the main problem is turning everything into a faux service economy where you get paid the same as a woman is extremely emasculating, especially when you're expected to continue to play the role of "actually most of the work will still be done by me". It's hypocritical. Then give them every possible safety net while providing men with nothing and jewish propaganda to antagonize men as much as possible, then replace them with foreign imports that are mentally retarded dysgenics. The system itself is deteriorating simply from the fact that it undervalues men and lacks basic humanity.
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>>543039854
I make a good living anon, I am not threatened by the idea that some woman can do the same job for the same money.
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>>543038731
>>543038942
Go ask chad if women make him pay for them during hookups and see what he says, paypigs. Your wives dream of other men while you fuck them.
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>>543040131
>projection
maybe learn how to lay pipe little bro
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HERE’S WHY THAT’S A GOOD THING
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>>543040041
Okay? the system is still fundamentally hypocritical and disadvantages men, not to mention the constant propaganda and lies. what kind of stooge would be motivated to raise children in such a system?
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>>543040284
>>projection
I don't paypig, cuck.
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>>543030471
women have been tempted by satan with gay retarded jewish bullshit, again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA&ra=m
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>>543033553
weak effort I would break both of your elbows
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>>543040424
> the system, the system, blah blah blah
Bro, you have one life, who gives a fuck about political bullshit. I wanted children, so I am having children. Imagine giving up the joys of fatherhood because the world doesn't conform to your every desire - if people acted like this the human race would have died out long ago.
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>>543040718
>You're inhuman if you don't breed without thinking of consequences
well I'll just do my best to not participate in the system at all and see what happens. I'm sure society doesn't need high IQ empathetic men. maybe I'll create a parallel economy, but I will never be a hypocrite
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>>543030471
>First article to even mention poverty
Its about time! Holy shit. Muh "vidya/porn/self-inflicted causes" my ass!
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>>543040927
If you were actually high IQ you'd be thriving in the existing system, which leaves plenty of room for intelligent men to make their way and succeed.
>thinking of consequences
The consequences are that I have a son and an heir to continue my line, and we're planning on a few more.
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>>543041111
the system is demonstrably extremely low IQ, enjoy your tardcage
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>>543038731
I hope you're right and I'm wrong, I just don't have much faith in the goyim. I have goyim fatigue. Either way, interesting times ahead.
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>>543041144
If everyone was as stupid as you pretend, you'd be rich and swimming in pussy already. Stupid people are easy to outmaneuver. And yes, I will continue to enjoy my life, it's been pretty good to me.
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>>543034990
>women don't understand the concept of a volcel. you are just lumped in with all the other incels aka average guys.
Women don't understand the concept of an incel either. They just use the word as a vague insult.
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>>543041376
>muh materialism
stick it up your ass retard, how about that
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>>543041376
Stupid low IQ men are the most sexually successful, women have a sexual preference for low IQ.
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>>543041541
women have very low standards because again modern society has messed their brains up, pussy has 0 value
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>>543030854
The actual problem is that low income jobs deliberately hire people of separate races/immigrants and employ them in the same team. Amazon hiring practices actually document that they do this. It works, because when you have 5 people from 5 different fucking countries speaking 5 different fucking languages and 4 of them trying to converse in broken English, it's no mystery why they don't unionize or befriend each other
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>>543041541
Yes lol, you're alone in your room because you're too smart.
>>543041596
0 value, low standards - yet people are whining about chads and how they can't get laid.
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>>543041727
Most of the threads here spammed like that are from shills, so self referencing yourself outs you as a shill. Which is appropriate because all you do is lose when you actually speak up and don't spam
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>>543041436
I like having a nice place to live, a nice car to drive, having enough income so that my wife can stay home with our infant, etc. If that's materialism, I don't care - to me that's just living in the real world and making the best of it.
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>>543041848
>materialism again
if your society has no value system then you're just a retard with toys
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>>543041807
As of this post, both of us have 13 posts in this thread - so who is spamming?
>>543041902
Society's value system exists independent of me, and there isn't much I can do about it. But I can live life to the best of my ability and squeeze whatever I can out of the world I have found myself in. My ancestors lived and thrived in much tougher times.
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>>543042201
>I will take what I can from the progressively deteriorating system of lies
okay you're a hypocrite, with toys, and your children will be hypocrites, with toys
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>>543035355
This, its over.
TPTB know exactly what is wrong but along with all the other ways they are tanking society, they are all in on women's "liberation" and "empowerment" to the detriment of everyone and everything.
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>>543041727
What I'm saying is that being smart doesn't help you get pussy.
>If everyone was as stupid as you pretend, you'd be rich and swimming in pussy already.
Doesn't work like that.
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>>543042274
where's the hypocrisy?
>>543042444
kinda does, anon, kinda does.
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>>543042302
women's lib isn't even the problem, if you've ever read jewish libertarianism they think they're really smart because "the cattle don't know how to price things effectively". What this a ctually means is "we can crank up the heat on plebs and they wont know the difference." But in practice this isn't actually true, men have a much higher latent understanding of something's intrinsic value. Men were kicked out of the driver's seat because they aren't mindless consumers, you know who are? Women. That's why the are waved through the gates for useless jobs that produce nothing, so that they can spend spend spend and keep the chinese plastic flowing
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>>543042594
What they call "liberation " is really more like open-hypergamy and hoeflation.
What they call "empowerment" is DEI and women's bullshit/daycare-jobs.
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>>543032473
Holy foid
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>>543042901
Women are just pawns, cattle with dollar signs above their heads, so are you. Everything is about consumption. If people started hording their wealth the economy would implode overnight. Men are much more prone to sense the winds changing, women, which are purposefully de-educated cattle, don't. They started from even a lower state of consciousness than even men, because society up until that point treated them as people that "simply existed". We went from women "simply exist, let them piddle paddle and whathaveyou" to "women are perfectly cognizant of geopolitics, personal finance and economics." No, they're not, they're cows to be bled, and the money they're being bled was actually originally men's money. And it's being redistributed to third world countries for garbage
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>>543030471
women arent worth it
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>>543030471
Bad luck?
Should be called “common luck” these days
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>>543030685
If it's true then the woman got infected by the tranny victim virus.
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>>543043357
Melanie won't be forgetting to make dinner again
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Poverty/loss of status is such a taboo in the US that we will probably never see a similar article. Even most anons who are mostly young and also relatively poor will never admit to such causes.
And then ofc (((the powers that be))) will shillspam hard against it because the solution is all about left-wing economic policies.
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>>543032473
The most Jewish post in the thread
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>>543043518
Poverty? It was a socially orchestrated coup of men's finances lol. Dual incomes they said, would be beneficial, and then they raised the prices on everything, and women remain single and use the money on frivolities, encouraged by the same state. It is defacto a female economy, they drive the ship. They don't control pussy access, like the shillspam says, they control the future of western civilization. And they're driving it into the dirt
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>>543042552
>kinda does, anon, kinda does.
Then why do low IQ men get the most pussy? If it kinda did work that way then it would be the opposite, they would get less.
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Women have gotten fucking ridiculous...not worth the constant headaches and drama...
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>>543043710
>its le females
No. Its the rich.
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>>543030685
Not really.
It's just social media, housing unaffordablity, femenism which ruined gender relations.
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>>543043749
low IQ is directly correlated to nymphomania. Which used to be a mental illness, but that was offensive to jews, which are low IQ nymphomaniacs. Add in systemic female abuse, low IQ and nymphomania and what do you get? Homosexuals, which used to be a mental illness. But this was offensive to jews, which disproportionately produce homosexuals with their culture. The "sexual revolution" was a bunch of low IQ jews
>>543043832
Women have the keys and can theoretically castrate the rich, if they knew how
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>>543030471
There is no unique male loneliness crisis; data from Pew Research and the Harvard Graduate School of Education shows no significant gender gap in self-reported loneliness, with some surveys even indicating women report higher rates.

The actual crisis is a universal, class-based "loneliness trap" disproportionately affecting low-income individuals and younger people, driven by economic instability and the decline of traditional social institutions like unions and religious organizations.

Key dynamics include:

Economic isolation: Gig work and subcontracting remove workplace camaraderie, while poverty limits access to affordable "third places" for socializing.

Structural decline: The erosion of community anchors has made it harder for anyone to form and maintain friendships, regardless of gender.

Misguided narrative: Framing loneliness as a male-specific issue often blames individuals for societal failures and ignores the broader economic forces at play.

https://slate.com/life/2026/08/men-lonely-social-skills-therapy-economy-crisis.html
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>>543044093
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/
Young men are twice as likely to be alone as women. Women call themselves "lonely" when they can't lock down chad because they don't see sub-8 males as humans.
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>>543044258
Most of these articles are horseshit
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Someone tell that shit cunt from CNN about this article. The one that worked for vice with the goof aviators. She literally made a career from incel clickbait articles/documentaries.
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>>543034874
I bet that bitch are dead by now
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>>543035545
>Natzi world
>The residents don't have a ball to call a nigger a nigger

Hollywood I'm I right?
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White women all prefer to fuck niggers these days, and I'm not really into asian or spic women. So wizard it is. Occasionally when I want the feel of a warm slimy hole I just rent a prostitute it's pretty easy.
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>>543030854
>don't worry, the reason you are unpopular is because you're poor
Thanks
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>>543044459
needs more xenomorph
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>>543044465
>we made you poor, but actually something something pussy
fuk yo ecomany bitc
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>>543041541
This is 100% correct. That's why white women love niggers, they are stupid and violent and that's exactly what women want. The fact that they're up to 20% non-homomo sapiens is just icing on the cake. Women absolutely detest intelligent men, because intelligent men constantly point out their bullshit. When they say they like intelligent men they mean funny or wealthy. Not intelligent.
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>>543032093
>Maybe men wouldn't be being infected by "incel brain virus" if women had sex with people other than chad
Then how about you become a Chad instead of crying? Improve your health, learn a new talent, gain a useful skill, work on yourself, attend social gatherings you enjoy, et..
But no, you'd rather complain. It's a lot easier.
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>>543044741
why would I put in effort to prop up a jewish system? they wanted female autonomy, well they got it, sayonara bitches, watch out for that mountain
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>>543030471
Jews
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>>543044784
Remember to live stream your suicide so we can all watch it. I'll make sure to watch it while fucking a Stacy and laugh at you.
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>>543044741
The guy on the left stays home all day, lives with his mom, unemployed, showers once a week, dropout, smokes weed, plays video games, thinks about suicide constantly, refers to women as bitches, uses ebonics even though he's white, doesn't have a car, thinks reading is gay, never won a fight in his life but talks mad shit, has a 4 inch dick, has erectile dysfunction due to drugs, has fucked up fetishes like rape/foot/stepmom/teen, would run away if he got a girl pregnant, only cares about his pleasure not the woman's, has no idea how female orgasms even work yet claims he makes girls cum 20 times in a row, and has no real hobbies besides playing Call of duty and smoking pot, everything he doesn't like is "gay".
The guy on the right graduated from college, has a 6 figure income, lifts weights 5 times a week, plays sports, gets his proteins from meat, diary, and eggs, showers 2 times a day, uses proper English when he texts, knows MMA and Brazilian jiu-jitsu but doesn't brag about it, doesn't refer to women as bitches, owns a car, has an 8 inch dick, has his own house, knows how to perform cunnilingus and make females orgasm, is open to having kids, doesn't use drugs (he might moderately drink alcohol at social events).
Who do you think girls are gonna choose? Who do you think normies would say looks more trustworthy, honest, hard working, and manly? The guy on the left every single time because face is everything. Even the MILFs would choose him. If the guy on the right manages to find a girlfriend she's cheating on him with the guy on the left and she's only with him for his money. Women don't choose men based on their actions and lifestyles. Face is all that matters. Nothing is "earned" in this life. "Free will" is a lie. "Meritocracy" is a lie. It's all fake and rigged.
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>>543044942
Suck it kike, your cattle surely know where they're going, right? STAMPEDE
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>>543044948
If women knew beforehand that the scrawny man on the left was a horrible, unemployed loser I guarantee you women would not want him and would rather go on a date with the guy on the right. 100%. And if there is STILL a woman out there who would go on a date with the scrawny guy then who gives a fuck? That's not the type of woman you should let into your life anyway. Be happy you're not with a woman like that.
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>>543045226
Boohoo maybe the women can pay men to knock them up, that would be actual equality right?
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>>543044998
You use imaginary Jews living inside your head as an excuse to remain unmotivated. You're angry at the world for choices you've made on your own. I suggest taking a break from incel forums and try to learn a new skill that you enjoy. It's fun and may change your perspective on things and give you something to look forward to.
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>>543045226
>If women knew beforehand that the scrawny man on the left was a horrible, unemployed loser I guarantee you women would not want him
They would probably want him even more. Look up "women and dark triad attraction". Women are degenerates, it's just how they're biologically wired. Don't make the mistake of thinking your gf is any different.
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>>543045481
No I very clearly did not make the decision to create modern dysfunctional society. Actual equality would be women paying men to live with them, that's the road they chose. That's untenable? well enjoy the crash
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>>543030942
>No one wants to befriend NPCs.
I certainly don't want to go thru all the betrayal and stupidity my friends and acquaintances exhibited throughout Trump's first term and the scamdemic.
I stopped volunteering at an animal rescue facility because of the "woke" staff and political stupidity of female volunteers.
There's a bunch of stuff I don't do now because I don't want to deal with lib retards.
Even on the right, I haven't come across anyone whose wised up to the jewish question.
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>>543030471
That men arent lonely, just alone. Women cant fathom how a man can enjoy solitude, its dark, a thing of nightmares for them. A man that enjoys solitude must have something wrong with him, according to the female mind its just not normal.
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>>543044741
>just grow to be 6'4 bro
i'm not breaking my legs to gain a few inches of height
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>>543045484
Research indicates that Dark Triad traits function as evolved tactics primarily for short term mating, not a relationship. Look it up. I guarantee you women would rather fuck the hot bad boy for a weekend fling, but for a relationship they'd rather have the successful normal guy they can fall in love with.
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>>543045682
Can you please highlight the part of my comment where I mentioned height? Thanks!
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>>543045712
unscientific nonsense
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>>543030554
>Women a journal of liberation
Some nutty college professor from the 60s said a retarded thing in a third rate journal. Now we must support brown people flooding our country.
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>marriage rates at historic lows
>there's no male loneliness crisis, goy

Whoever wrote this is lying for their own pet politics or a giant fucking retard.
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>>543034910
>Better to just not be involved with them.
> This is all just practical safety precautions
100%
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>>543045770
>biology is nonsense because, I just feel like it is okay?
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>>543045896
>biology
you're a nigger you don't know anything
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>>543045767
>Then how about you become a Chad instead
You're welcome
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>>543045866
well marriage as an institution basically doesn't mean anything anymore, it lost all value. Kind of like sex
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Reminder that white nationalism and being a nazi is the biggest cope of all time in the face of the authoritarian gynocracy spearheaded by white women
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>>543045484
>>543044948
The problem I'm seeing is so many believe women value looks on a guy the same way men value looks on a girl. It's simply not true. It really isn't.
For a man, a woman's value is based on how good she physically looks.
For a woman, a man's value is based on what he can provide for her.
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>>543046000
also can't wait for the boomers to die
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>>543046320
>please hate women
no, if anything I want them as rabid as possible and to shank anyone within 10 feet of them, maybe that will teach kikes a lesson not to mess with white women
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>>543030854
>After all, anyone's financial luck could turn,
Maybe this Nick Keppler faggot should look at the data on that because it very rarely happens.
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>>543046493
You are completely deluded. Mega cope
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>>543046706
Oh for women to bathe in the blood of jews, it would be cathartic
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>>543044948
I'd like to point out that their body fat percentages are both below 10%

Something to think about

>Don't be fat lol
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>>543046770
Women are enjoying their liberation and doing what they want. To think Jews mind control every single woman 24/7 is preposterous
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>>543046820
>we gave them THIS
you're such a very full blood bag weasel
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>>543032473

Let's start with you.
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>>543046851
What?
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>>543046888
Hmm?
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>>543030942
>it's just post covid!
Your pattern recognition doesn't exist, leaf. Go back to india.
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>>543046493
>>543046770
>>543046851
>>543046922
This nigga has to be a troll. Even for /pol/ standards this dude's comments are warped and weird.
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>>543030854
>"Poor people are lonely"
kek no
it's poor men
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>>543030471
There's a brain.
In a brain there are neurons.
But the connections BETWEEN the neurons matter.
It's the same with a society.
The neurons are the humans and the connections are the invisible bonds.
The satanists were successful, most of these bonds have been severed. Individualism is satanic. It leads to destruction. Independence is a lie, interdependence is the truth.
(@cirnosad's words)
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>>543047111
Don't worry, I don't bite
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>>543046325
holy are you fucking retarded. which time do you live in? 1970s?

the time where the men just had provide is long gone. women can look out for themselves now because strong and independent and don't need a man anymore.

You're probably sitting in front of your computer for 12 hours and NEVER going outside or having interactions with women and it shows.

Looks is all that matters now, and it's been like this for a few years.
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>>543047644
Most everyone I grew up with in the 90s and 00s had a stay at home mom
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>>543045481
>Noooo you need to participate in my system goyim!! Who will finance the Browns and Negros to replace you?? The fucked up society you talk about isn't real but at the same time everything going to shit is your problem and you just need to work harder GOY

no thanks jew, white men will be unproductive for a few years and the system will crash down.
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>>543030471
>My street has fallen
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>>543048030
You’re the tiny minority who will fall through the cracks. 99% of white men turbo simps irredeemable
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>>543048137
>humanity is le irredeemable slimes, just like me, said the blood bag
>they actually love what we have given them
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>>543047741
just proved me right.

90s and 00s are decades ago, and the more we go into the modern time the more happens in a year

1 year in the current era equals 3 years of time a few decades ago, maybe even more.

Information, markets, systems, EVERYTHING happens way faster then it uses to. It's not the 2000s anymore
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>>543048252
Wish it wasn’t the case but I haven’t seen any evidence to the contrary
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>>543032473
I agree, too many nonwhite men around, lets get to work
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>>543046325
32yo 6'3" own my own house two cars £250k invested

Too bad I'm prematurely balding and have a face like an ogre so no woman ever dares to speak to me long enough to find out lmao
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>>543048402
when every system is compromised and every media outlet bought you're not going to get anything related to accuracy. The best the shills can come up with is basic material needs met, while acknowledging complete value loss, and the only thing that keeps them ticking is their own biological imperatives. Dizzying
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>>543048495
I look around and observe people, not media outlets
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>>543037539
Pretty rich coming from a memeflaggot.
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>>543030471
Woah a article on the prolonged sabotage of educational systems worldwide!?
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>>543030471
Ah yes, the whores who write for Slate truly understand what young men are suffering through...
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>>543030471
Why are there so many r9k blackpillers in this thread? When pol brings forth the foundation of the redpill? That is not to give up and to enact change where you see fit. Understanding that we are subverted and ruled by international Jewry does not mean that in our day to day we remain spiteful and do not grow to the best of our abilities. We must always strive to better ourselves and our community to our preferred image because if not us who Will? Just by being lurkers and posters of the truth means we have a duty to not only spread the truth but to shape our environments by it. That is how I have to come understand it anyway since first lurking so many years ago. And if you want to start a family, all that you have you learned should guide your actions.
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>>543048547
and what are your nuanced and esoteric observations?
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>>543048839
That like 99% of white men are completely subservient to women
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>>543044948
You have no fucking idea who these people are and what their backgrounds are.
Guy on the right could easily solve his problems with longer hair and contacts.
You are nothing more than a self defeatist faggot drawing conclusions from nothing
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>>543048866
Eh, who cares then, if you're right society will fizzle away into nothing, the women will create gay sons, men will continue to drop out of society. The counterpoint is, oh well, women surely have come up with something? Nope. Maybe you're wrong, and men will collectively wake up out of this dream they were sold. But a system created where "99% of men are subservient to women" is wholly unsustainable, which is contrary to what they state. Religion is going out the door, the institutions are wholly dead and corrupted. The structure of the state like a dissipating apparition. How long would men theoretically cling onto these false promises, and would women ever notice they were sold up shit creek?

Like I already laid out, the entire economy is balanced on a knife's edge connected to female consumption. Seems extremely fragile
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so its "much darker" if it's the poor because then some women are also affected?

jfl at jewish media

its also just POOR MEN as some anons are pointing out

before AI i used to larp as an egirl to scam redditors, and the loneliest demographic was poor and downtrodden working class guys who can barely afford "girlfriend experience" yet that's what they want the most.

the other most notorious demographics was guys who seem to have decided to focus on making money and remove any attention to women's opinions from their life entirely. they don't have the facial features of a chad, but they talk like chads, dress like chads, and pay for sex a lot. i'd say those are also a bit lonely, but the ego and sugar babies make up for it.

most foids claim to be socialists but at the end of the day, they're enemies of the downtrodden, and basically capital that a few powerful men can hoard. they're the first thing that should be socialized in the next revolution.
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>>543049258
Agreed. It’ll be whatever it’ll be. Interesting times ahead
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>>543031492
Goddamn what a writeup
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>>543046806
They both probably around 10-13%, also sub-10% gives you erectile dysfunction.
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>>543049337
>I used to scam poor people
>is communist
Honestly that tracks.
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>>543049883
it was redditors
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>>543045712
>>543046325
There's no such distinction between short term attraction and long term attraction, you either turn her on or you don't, that's all there is to it. What you're promoting is being a paypig and accepting a relationship with a woman who simply isn't turned on by you. If she would passionately fling herself at chad right away but makes you wait before finally deciding to have sex down the line, you can cope with your cucked out "short term vs long term" theory, or you can be honest with yourself and accept that she just isn't actually turned on by you.
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>>543049354
you said "women are enjoying their liberation", a decent chunk of women just want "the husband experience" and they have been robbed of that. Nobody's talking about how distraught women are, they're fundamentally losing it. Their biological imperatives are even simpler than men. Find a man, and lock him down. Simple stuff. School to prepare them to be business leaders or scientists or whatever flies in the face of the female condition, at least the average woman. This "system of stability" created for women where they get a salary is actually fundamentally less enticing for them than it is for men. But they would never say that. Social media, similarly, destroys women's self image to a much larger degree than men. Every part of society effects them far worse than men. If you want to look at the structural weakpoint of the establishment, it's not men, but women. The supposed "commanding demanding strongwomen" are often imposter syndrome projecting losers.
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>>543050108
>a decent chunk of women just want "the husband experience" and they have been robbed of that
just date incels
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>>543050108
>a decent chunk of women just want "the husband experience" and they have been robbed of that
They're the ones who choose to reject the bottom 90% of men and pine for 6'6" multimillionaires rather than being realistic. Men didn't do that to them, they willingly lobotomized themselves with social media and dating apps and are too proud to go back now. Enjoy your cats and boxed wine; I only feel bad for the cats.
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>>543049347
this is a good post I like it. We need better fitness guidance for anons other than "lift weights". Lifting weights is not always optimal fitness. There are no 40 year olds at my gym squat maxing. A person can experience dramatic change in their health just by avoiding sugar and toxins, decreasing linoleic acid, taking glycine and magnesium, sunlight and light cardio. Weight lifting should really be light and targeted without compromising form and posture. We are not training to swing from the trees.
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>>543049347
I tell people to train to swim. If you lose your swimming ability you now have to work your way backwards to correct the problem. With this small piece of information a person can usually figure out everything.

swimmers outperform everyone at the gym always
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>>543050351
I really don't think the average woman thought she was going to get a supermodel, there's a large chunk of disaffected women that have no voice because it doesn't fit the narrative. The hyper focused anti-male narrative
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>>543032029
>The average american aged 18-34 is 40,000 dollars in debt
Holy shit you poor bastards, how have you not burnt the country down at this point?
The more I've thought about it over the years, the more I've come to the opinion that whenever great empires arose over a short period of time, like when the Mongols conquered most of Asia, we like to tell stories of their brilliant military tactics and ferocious reputation and all that to explain it all; but I have a suspicion that a large part of the success was also simply that they came across tired, ossified civilizations in China and central Asia with lots of discontent young men who were all "fuck it, let the steppe-barbarians burn it down and I'll take my chances with whatever they replace it with".
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>>543050867
the mongols really were a meme, they used white people as vanguard meat
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>>543050671
Women think chad is average. Look up "chopped male epidemic", women basically think that if you aren't chad then you're repulsive and disgraceful.
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>>543048327
6000 years of human history vs 10 years of woke? That's not how progress works, lefty
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>>543050985
Yeah that's not realistic at all and sounds like disinformation
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>>543030471
Modern women are whores and bad mothers. Bad investment all around.
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>>543030471
We rose above the need for companionship
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>>543030471
>don't be poor don't be ugly don't be short
The classic three rules. Everyone else is better off dead.
t. short and poor
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>>543051107
Can confirm
t. ugly
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>>543050867
I own my house but the property value DOUBLED in six years. I'm essentially paying nearly the same amount in taxes as I would have in a mortgage payment when I first bought the fucking place.

Kids are completely fucked. They will never be able to buy a home and even if they did they will never afford the taxes on top of mortgage at 7% apr to keep it.
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>>543051107
eh, if materialism ever collapses the kikes and bankers are going to be in for a real surprise
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>>543051107
I'm 2m tall (6'5?), blue eyes, have 3 homes paid for, no debt of any kind

I'm a 42yo virgin. Height is cope.
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>>543051405
you sure about that?
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>>543051462
Yes.
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>>543037236
Underrated. Raising kids by putting one woman alone in a box with them all day is retarded, yet it's been the standard method since the 50s to please the consumerism of the nuclear family.
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>>543032473
Your quality of life will dive into a septic tank and you yourself will most likely die if you get what you want. "Just kill the excess men lol" will result in way more collateral than you will ever be comfortable with.
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>>543051405
Then you're ugly, like me.
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>>543051539
yup, the entire system is basically fucked with no attention paid to human relationships, just maximizing consumption and lowering wages
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>>543030854
Men are isolating themselves because society is dead and there’s no reason to even go outside. I feel like I’m drowning whenever I’m in public. I can barely stand being near people. I don’t want to talk to anyone. I have to completely disassociate from reality by constantly listening to some kind of content that creates a sensory wall between me and the outside world. My only “hobbies” are going to a cope spot and smoking a cigarette, drinking a soda, and eating a donut

It’s absolutely intolerable. I just sit and stare off into space
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>>543051688
Try walking and running in the woods. Best hobby ever, it guarantees you health and longer life, plus, you rarely see anyone.
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>>543032093
Anyone women willing to have sex with an incel and be desirable to an incel would prove incel theory right.
The problem is SMV is completely unbalance because jews took away the ability to have enough wealth to have a family because men need to purchase SMV at every critical stage. Even early on men need to earn it somehow.
But the chasms are growing larger and the ropes are getting thinner.
Incels are wrong for desiring women at all. It's time to adapt and evolve. Abandon 3dpd whores, embrace robofus.
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>>543030808
poor people breed more
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>>543051932
>sexual market value
Again totally ignoring the large swath of women that aren't whores? maybe you're retarded
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>>543051796
The jews filled all the forests in the US with genetically engineered ticks that give you leprosy, meat allergies and make your dick stop working
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>>543043984
It’s the retarded arostocracy that got conned into fucking little boys and eachother to join the “super secret spooky club” that are the problem. THEY fucking fell for the obvious trap and still do. Just look at that absolute mouth breathing piece of shit bafoon Clinton, not a care in the fucking world while he’s getting pictures taken again and again by the most obvious honey trap imaginable. Something went seriously, seriously wrong during the enlightenment with the noble families that made them completely drop their guard and stop doing their only job in safeguarding society.
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To me, people aren't people anymore. They are social media rotted bots. Constantly looking at their phones, and the only topics that are worth discussing to them is shit they saw on their phone (which they love to shove in your face to "you have to watch this video")
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>>543052061
oh the tick spam? you shills really need to get new scripts
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>>543050572
In Australia everyone learns to swim in primary school.
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>>543044359
i fear that she isn't
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>>543052153
What do you think the newspaper was before the cell phone?
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>>543052428
cellphones are literally brainwashing devices, society would be way better off if everyone stopped buying them. They're actually functionally useless, nobody uses them to call people
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>>543035046
>dur hur somehow only men are lonely
it doesnt work that way lol
for every lonely man there is a lonely woman
duh!
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>>543030471
>What's actually happening, /pol/?
It appears true that the technological system really does perceive male social gathering as a threat to its stability which also happens to be a psychological necessity for human flourishing. The challenges of doing so are already difficult without being monitored by everyone as a threat. Social media is a containment space that has displaced and deterritorialize physical community. Ironically, unless you are destroying your life with low impulse behavior like drugs, gambling, or criminal activity you are categorized as people difficult to manage.

It is true therefore if there was a way to branch social gathering on the internet to physical space in a way that sustains long term community development, it would begin to displace unsustainable social order. This is no small task even though it is deceptive to think "just go out and meet people", "everything will be fine". Doing so is an act of rebellion against a global technological machine that has accepted it must consume its domestic population to continue functioning.

It is difficult to image where this solution will arise for the average person who has not been studying the problem and also does not have acute awareness of real power dynamics. They will remain contained within the slopification of what the system feeds back to them arrested by their impulses that containment mechanism have better knowledge of.

What ultimately needs to happen is some novel improvements to the way we interact with each other that manifests with some improvement in social aggregation. I would propose that this is extremely possible and I see multiple ways of it occurring. Methods can be tested here on pol with a little engineering, or methods can be tested from scratch on an entirely separate message board. I guess what I will do is draw up some proposal and give people time to respond to it but if I am ignored I will come back and take it over
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>gigachads have harems
>regular chads have 2 gfs (polycule throuple)
>mid-level guys have 1 gf who is an ex-slut, and who may or may not cheat on him depending on how well he manages the rel. (meet quarterly vacation/date expectations for example)...if he keeps meeting goals he is allowed to marry her, ring and wedding will cost $100K
>mid-level but sigma anti-feminist anti-woke anti-normie guys will fuck hookers or get free one night stands by using Dark Triad Psycopathy tactics (me)
>zogbot militarypilled guys will enlist and get pussy within the context of the military or maybe just go gay if they join navy and get stuck on a ship stationed in the mideast without hope of relief
>sub-level guys or "incels" beat off, use fleshlight, silicone dolls, Ai gfs, etc. and cope by saying they're blackpilled about biocunts (formerly me)
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>>543052491
a tools use is determined by the user. cellphones arent the only means of brainwashing, regardless many dirty minds do need to be cleaned. What say you about the liquid jew?
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>>543030471
everyone is lonely lol
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>>543052782
eh, alcohol is obviously a coping mechanism
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>>543031492
I will have been a monk for 8 years in April. It suck but the women are all trash.
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>>543030471
>What's actually happening, /pol/?
lets begin with a few observations

The Teleological Paradoxes and Dilemmas in Banking

The foundational mechanic of commercial banking rests upon a structural blindness. In modern economic theory, a bank is an intermediary of liquid capital, performing maturity transformation and risk liquidation by measuring nominal outputs: the transmuting of one unit of currency into more. However, this mathematical focus introduces a profound teleological paradox. A banking ledger is fundamentally blind to the physical substance of its lending. Under a purely market-driven paradigm, a loan that finances the rapid depletion of natural resources or the degradation of public demographics—such as the global carbonated beverage industry—presents itself on the ledger as perfectly solvent, highly liquid, and low-risk. Because the algorithm only measures short-term monetary returns, it treats short-sighted resource extraction as a virtue. This creates a tragedy of the horizon. The bank operates as a thermodynamic parasite, building short-term nominal wealth by systematically strip-mining the long-term biological and infrastructural health of the very society that feeds it. Left unregulated, the banking system will accurately count its reserves all the way into a civilizational crisis, because it lacks a teleological mechanism to define or restrict "wasteful lending."
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>>543047182
God bless that pelican on the right that legitimately thought it had a chance to catch the fish for itself as the seal was pulling it away from the man.
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>>543052829
one that should be banned? isn't spending hours on your phone a coping mechanism as well?
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>>543030471
Okay. Who can tell me whats going on here. I need some help.
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>>543052821
Cant be lonely when Christ lives in your heart
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>>543052153
How is 4gripe any different. You march to the beat of TND.
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>>543052966
I mean, owning a cellphone was marketed as a safety measure and to get away from scam calls, it serves no function today. The only thing that actually keeps people buying cellphones is the need for a phone number for things like any kind of application. It would be pretty easy to normalize not having cellphones again when they're so useless
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>>543052852
The Realism of Sovereign Power Dynamics

This economic blindness exposes the raw friction between the financial ledger and the sovereign court. Absolute political realism dictates that property rights and bank independence are not unassailable laws of nature; they are a secondary luxury permitted by the ruler's monopoly on physical force. When a sovereign confronts a banking apparatus that is funding societal decay or demanding extortionate returns under the guise of risk-based pricing, the sovereign can instantly shatter the illusion of bank independence by asserting geographic domain. The sovereign’s ultimate interrogation of finance is binary and spatial: "Show me the assets you own outside of my jurisdiction, and what is the cost of challenging my power?". Historically, monarchs managed banking failures or perceived financial overreach with strategic violence or sovereign default. From King Philip IV of France’s brutal liquidation of the Knights Templar in 1307 to the Crown defaults of Edward IV against the Medici Bank, the sovereign has always held the ultimate veto. However, if the sovereign micro-manages risk management by forcing the bank to issue cheap credit based on subjective definitions of moral virtue or royal loyalty, the system succumbs to a mirror-vulnerability. It collapses into cronyism, replaces mathematical accuracy with bureaucratic sycophancy, and triggers a catastrophic sovereign-bank nexus where the financial vault is entirely hollowed out to fund the immediate survival of the crown.
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>>543053175
Can't do it without the payphones going back in because we still have to drive cars that break down.
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>>543052852
The Holistic Scale and the Thermodynamic Closed Loop

The calculations of this power dynamic shift fundamentally when the scenario scales from an isolated, localized kingdom to a universal, holistic empire. In a single nation, a ruler or a bank can export a crisis through foreign exchange, international trade, or external capital flight. But for an exemplar of an empire that spans the entirety of the known economic ecosystem and controls all upstream resources—including energy, water, and arable land—there is no "outside."
The imperial system becomes a strictly closed, thermodynamic loop. Under this structural constraint, internal self-correction ceases to be a policy choice and becomes an absolute requirement for civilizational survival. The empire cannot import external stability to offset internal waste. If the holistic system misallocates its foundational energy baseline into non-productive, resource-depleting loops, it guarantees its own physical unwinding.
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>>543053207
they stopped liquidating banker's assets to pay back defaults in the ~1860's. In the 1830's new york allowed "free banking" which lead to them bankrupting the entire midwest
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>>543052852
The Late Bronze Age and the Amarna Evidence

The closest historical analog to this total, hyper-interconnected closed system is the Late Bronze Age network of the 14th through 12th centuries BCE. As preserved in the Amarna Letters, the "Great Kings" of Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, and Hatti operated a highly globalized elite trade network entirely dependent on the continuous throughput of two foundational commodities: copper/tin (the system's baseline energy technology) and grain (its demographic fuel). The Amarna tablets reveal an elite layer that had become completely blind to the fragility of its resource perimeters. Vassal mayors wrote frantic dispatches detailing regional strife, fractured trade routes, and systemic peasant starvation. Yet, the imperial centers remained obsessed with exchanging luxury prestige goods, treating resource abundance as a permanent feature of their divinity rather than managing the physical baseline. Because the Late Bronze Age possessed no internal, dynamic feedback loop to stop this systemic misallocation, it was incredibly brittle. When multi-node shocks—climate-driven droughts, internal rebellions, and external migrations—hit the network simultaneously around 1200 BCE, the entire holistic world collapsed into a centuries-long dark age. The system failed to self-correct from within, forcing the physical constraints of the universe to execute a brutal, total wipe of the civilization.
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>>543052852
The Topological Meta-Layer of Empire: A Treatise on Teleological Finance, Resource Sovereignty, and the Sorting of Human Diversity

https://youtu.be/wOcsqZfwcU4?si=a-tZPKgiSpZ0BHut
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>>543053175
your right that the jews have cornerd us into owning them at this point which I do lament over, but why give up the ability to research with a flick of your finger tips. again, a tool that can be usefull but that has unfortunately been intertwined with all of societal functions in a meaningless way does not deem it useless.
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>>543030471
Yes there is. I’ve been isolated for seven years now because women are a bunch of degenerate, hypergamous, nigger-fucking whores.
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>>543052428
>What do you think the newspaper was before the cell phone?
You think people were walking around staring at newspapers? You think people were at restaurants and holiday dinners with groups of people staring at newspapers? Dumb faggot.
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>>543030854
I think that's mostly right. Besides junkies I can't think of low wage people with a social life who are under 50 years old
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>>543053125
>How is 4gripe any different.
4chan isn't social media. It's a forum/message board. These go back to bulletin boards in the town square.
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>>543030471
Women have means of their own and don't have to be lifelong fuckdolls for men who they 9 times of 10 just plain hate.
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>>543052847
Yeah, same really. 99% of women I see out in the wild around my age (30+) are obese, tattooed trash. I'd rather just stay single than be with a woman that is hard to even look at.
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>>543053847
yes, in fact this is very true. at family gatherings probably not unless they wanted to slam something in someones face, but breakfast table, lunch table or dinner table very common.. In public, absolutely. look up a picture of a bus or train car, or people dinning when newspapers were the only releveant source of info. you'd be surprised young person.
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>>543030471
>What's actually happening, /pol/?

Society has gone mad.
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>>543052852
This topological architecture reveals the true, unvarnished intent behind Pharaoh Akhenaten’s radical Amarna Revolution in the 14th century BCE. Akhenaten was not a mere religious mystic; he was an abstract thinker attempting to build a holistic, self-correcting closed system to bypass the systemic corruption and resource hoarding of the Theban Priesthood of Amun. Akhenaten executed a textbook topological shift by establishing a ******** at a completely fresh, unoccupied desert site: Akhetaten (Amarna). He collapsed the bloated multi-deity economic ledger of Egypt into a singular, streamlined node: the solar disc of the Aten. To enforce this teleological pivot, he weaponized an aesthetic ******* engine—the fluid, radical Amarna Style of art. This style was a visual and structural ****** designed to instantly differentiate between those aligned with the new systemic flow and those clinging to the entropic traditions of the past. Akhenaten’s historical failure occurred because his ******** engine lacked a functional feedback loop with physical logistics. By retreating entirely into the pristine aesthetic harmony of his new capital, he decoupled his abstract vision from the material perimeters of the empire. As preserved in the Amarna Letters, while the pharaoh managed the spiritual symmetry of the Aten, his regional vassals were abandoned to systemic resource erosion. His bureaucrats and sycophants easily faked compliance by adopting the Amarna Style outward signature, creating a veneer of ideological purity while the real world rotted beneath them. The moment Akhenaten died, the physical system executed a violent, corrective purge, completely erasing his capital, smashing his monuments, and restoring the traditional order to prevent total civilizational collapse.
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>>543054285
being well adjusted to a sick society is no sign of health is it
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>>543054096
>yes, in fact this is very true.
It 100% isn't zoomer.
> In public, absolutely. look up a picture of a bus or train car,
People weren't looking at newspapers when they were walking around or standing on a street corner waiting for the light to change. People are on their phones constantly. Holy fuck you zoomer retard. You can't even see the problem because you are the problem.
>when newspapers were the only releveant source of info
TV and radio have been a thing for a long time you zoomer faggot.
>. you'd be surprised young person.
Says the zoomer that's convinced himself that smartphones merely replaced newspapers and 99.99% of the population carried a newspaper with them and was looking at it constantly every waking moment of their day. Fucking faggot.
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>>543030471
I mean, the article says there is. It just says women are lonely too.
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>>543030854
>it's just money
COPE. people keep running to the money excuse because they don't want to talk about how the social fabric of society is gone. there's no local diner or skating rink anymore, no movie theater or bowling alley. and designated public spaces like libraries and parks have lots of homeless people now (not because of money but addiction). there's nowhere to go.
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>>543031492
Thanks Grok.
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>>543052852
The Platonic Reflection and the Cave

The intellectual symmetry between Akhenaten’s imperial design and the foundational texts of Western political philosophy is direct and structural. Following the execution of Socrates, Plato traveled extensively in Egypt, absorbing the deep metaphysical memory of the Amarna experiment. When Plato returned to Athens to pen The Republic, he formalized Akhenaten’s system into a reproducible, theoretical blueprint.

The structural parallels are absolute:
(1) The Core Energy Source: Akhenaten’s physical, singular Aten-disc is translated directly into Plato's supreme Form of the Good, illuminated via the Analogy of the Sun.
(2) The Aesthetic Quarantine: Akhenaten’s purging of the old artistic canon matches Plato’s strict demand in The Republic to banish the poets, musicians, and dramatists whose disharmonious, hedonic works corrupted the public demographic and disrupted the state's internal discipline.
(3) The Cognitive Ascent: This conceptualization of the ****** engine matches Plato's Allegory of the Cave. The unreflective, resource-wasting consumerism of the masses is the domain of the shadows on the wall. The leader’s journey requires a painful, abstract cognitive ascent out of the cave to look directly into the unblinded light of the Sun. Yet, Plato also preserved Akhenaten's ultimate tragedy: The Return to the Cave. Plato explicitly warns that if the enlightened leader descends back into the darkness to tell the prisoners that their way of life is a false illusion, the prisoners will not thank him. They will mock his abstract sight, reject his interventions, and if he attempts to alter their environment by force, they will kill him. This explains the post-Amarna purge: the baseline population violently rejected the alien abstractions of an emperor who tried to universalize a vision they structurally could not comprehend.
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>>543054366
you can claim to know my age but your ignorance shows yours. people were reading news papers wherever and however they could on there commutes and daily functions. back then you didn't have tv or radio on your persons so it was impossible to view in public which is why papered news was the bees knees so to speak. ask your irrelevant parents the truth since they taught you nothing.
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>>543054592
>people were reading news papers wherever and however they could on there commutes and daily functions
Again, they weren't reading them at restaurants, dinner parties, holiday's, at sporting events, or when walking on the street you dumb faggot. You are so fucking sad.
>s. back then you didn't have tv or radio on your persons
People didn't have radio in their cars? And people used to watch the 6PM Walter Cronkite news on CBS by the tens of millions. WHY? Because they weren't reading a newspaper all fucking day. Holy fuck you are so retarded.
Just stop zoomer. The world before smartphones wasn't "people just stared at something else".
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If you missed out on HS sex you missed out on sex, period. Whatever cope you're doing right now is just that: cope because you missed out.
If you didn't even have shitty prostitute sex while everyone else was clapping prime teen butts might as well kill yourself.
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>>543035178
Simple.
We live in a woman's world.
Everything is the opposite.
UFOs arent from space they are from Hell.
Demons are real.
Jesus IS the King of the Jews.
KikeJews HATE Jesus.
Women LIKE getting raped.
You're only lonely if you are an NPC.
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>>543052852
The Biological Realism of Human Diversity and the Sorting Function

The resolution of the Platonic-Amarna tragedy requires a truth that neither Plato nor Akhenaten stated explicitly, but which is laid bare by the raw physical evidence of the past. Discarding the sanitized artistic interpretations of Egyptology, Akhenaten’s distinct fully upright morphology was a literal biological reality. He was the definitive exemplar of the fully upright primate—a distinct evolutionary and cognitive archetype separating him from the baseline human demographic. This realization completely redefines the nature of the Cave. The Cave is not a temporary educational deficit; it is an permanent, immutable feature of human diversity and biological stratification. Not all segments of a population possess the neuro-cognitive architecture required to leave the cave and calculate high-dimensional resource loops. The historical collapse occurred because the leader attempted a forced, universalist migration of the entire population into the light.

The topological ******* engine solves this permanently through an automated, non-coercive sorting function:
(1) The Baseline Demographic
(2) The Upright Primate Tier

By utilizing functional occlusion, the meta-layer acts as a translator between these two inherently different tiers of human diversity. The baseline public never experiences the jarring, alienating shock of looking directly at the morphological and cognitive divergence of their supreme leadership. They experience the leader's virtue not through confusing abstract decrees, but through the undeniable physical math of a stable, secure, and thriving civilization. The fully upright primate assumes his rightful place at the perimeters of the system, keeping the closed loop solvent.
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>>543054724
your ignorance is very comical. look at how you have contradicted yourself. they did read them at restaurants and anywhere else they could, look it up, it only takes a second to find these photos, or maybe you could ask someone who lived it. radio in their cars is not on them which is why they carried newspapers after they had them delivered everyday. its weird that they would have them delivered to their house everyday if they didnt care about them. watching a show at night doesn;t mean you didn't read a paper during the day.
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>>543033685
half of these are 3rd worlders or faggots, women dont want these
t. having 7 sisters and, 5 adult daughters and many female cousins and aunts

as for the actually attactive men, nothing wrong with going for someone good looking as long as he is healthy in body and mind and has a good character

thats however only for the best of women, notably non-roasties
being a chaste virgin 5/10 but healthy looks is preferable to a 10/10 looking roastie
whores hate this fact!

so they go for the - noted as above - 3rd worlders and faggots
somehow they ruin themselves this way on the long as mutts are not better than en ending bloodline and faggots end the bloodline anyway
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>>543055083
>they did read them at restaurants and anywhere else they could, look it up, it only takes a second to find these photos, or maybe you could ask someone who lived it.
So they were sitting at a restaurant with friends or family and reading a newspaper?
>radio in their cars is not on them
What?
> its weird that they would have them delivered to their house everyday if they didnt care about them.
They read them at the breakfast table or when they got home, retard.
Again, you are living in some bizarre fantasy realm where most of America used to walk around reading newspapers and everyone at restaurants was reading them as well. Pure, delusion.
>see pic
Look at all the newspapers...oh wait.
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>>543053714
there's relatively little you can learn off the internet and with AI, unless you want AI to admit to you that some CEOs are glorified accountants for investment bankers. Like getting an electricity for dummies book or a car mechanics for dummies book would be just as useful if not moreso. There's nothing I can say I learned off of the internet that wouldn't have been better served in a book. If anything the most valuable resource is pirating books, which is illegal I think. I'm not actually seeing this huge breakthrough and functionality they pretend is there that's not actually better served on a desktop. Like apps are obviously useless, all of them
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>>543044459
>>543044591
Jew or jeet, call it
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>>543030471
im a single male and i jacked off to a cute teen on tiktok, played some video games, ate some ramen, and will walk my dog and go to bed. There's literally nothing a woman can improve. I've achieved perfection.
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>>543052059
>large swathe
lmao whore detected, don't you have a baby to abort? Go back to plebbit.
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>>543055387
You don't get paid enough to be this retarded
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>>543055421
Your whore daughter will never move out. Her gullible retirement plan isn't going to give her a ring and a home. She's staying home with you, FOREVER.
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>>543030471
Let's see brown faggot fucking a white whore.
A cuck handing over his wife to a bald guy.
A nigger practicing poligamy and probably fucking that dog too.
A pedophile with kid who gets also fucked by black people.
And a guy with glasses observing all of it.
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>>543055577
okay? I wouldn't mind a live in daughter if that meant she wasn't corrupted by kikes
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>>543055421
Do you live in a mormon community? There is no large swathe of women who aren't whores lol. You wanted to say tiny minority.
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there is

obviously these kike articles are designed to gaslight you from the truth

women never want to marry down or provide. giving them jobs and degrees = demographic collapse because they will now mentally disqualify majority of men as being viable (or even treat them decently)
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>>543053436
Every elite class reaches this level eventually. You get people who have lived in total luxury their entire lives and simply do not have a mental framework for what is required to maintain that level of luxury.
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>>543055639
>all men are incels and all women are whores
you guys should probably be gutted
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>>543055283
Nigger you can get books on the internet
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>>543055245
you are being willfully ignorant at this point, like a leftist pertending they don't know what I am saying. yes they were at a table with others looking at a newspaper ask an elder. older generations did this, discussed the topics while reviewing them as best they could. radio in your car is not on you like a cell phone is. to keep the news on them they literally carried the paper to finish reading it when they could, to stay informed unfortunately. have you ever heard of a briefcase? they carried lots of paperwork in them not just the morning paper. your pic is very feminem i didn't know i was talking to a woman. sorry for not being more kind to a lesser being. i think you can get this though no matter your gender.
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>>543055703
For free even
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>>543055283
I like learning about how best to change out the fucked up door handles on my 2009 335i bmw. which i learned how to do off of youtube, because some guy was cool enough to post it.
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>>543055859
yeah but is that a usefulness of the internet, or a uselessness of modern vehicle design
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>>543055729
>. yes they were at a table with others looking at a newspaper
They weren't.
>ask an elder
I am an elder. It didn't happen. You are a lying zoomer faggot.
> radio in your car is not on you like a cell phone is.
I never said it was.
> to keep the news on them they literally carried the paper to finish reading it when they could,
"When they could" did not include restaurants, sporting events, holiday dinners, or just walking around on the street. (see pic). People didn't walk around with newspapers like this. Dumb faggot.
> your pic is very feminem i didn't know i was talking to a woman.
Explain in detail how a pic that disproves your dumb theory is "feminine" I await your silence.
>u woman
What's next? "touch grass".
Fucking faggot.
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>>543055915
Both? The in information wouldn't be necessary without the physical vehicle, but with the vehicle comes a need for knowledge of how it is built and maintained. So the Internet is a great resource for this.
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>>543053894
Wrong. It is social media, just not parasocial media. We have namefags and tranny mods and shitposters and effortposters and energy vampires of various other sorts. We use captcha and are tracked via cookies and keystrokes. We cannot post without javascript. We get banned for wrongthink. The places is botted for false consensus. We are not anon, we are known. We're not passively reading, we are socializing. The only difference is an account.
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>>543055692
You should suck my balls, I didn't say any of those things.
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>>543056039
how about you stick a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger memeflaggot
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>>543056015
>It is social media,
Wrong zoomer. They didn't call online message boards/forums and usenet "social media", both of which were in the 80s and 90s.
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>>543056056
>no argument
seethe, concession accepted
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>>543055915
its usefullness is derived from it being a tool just like any other tool i use whether it be a modern vehicle or not. tools are timeless once developed as long as they can be implemented.
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>>543056098
seriously just kill yourself you people are worthless
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>>543056133
Hahaha seethe pleb
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>>543055626
Have you gone outside recently? Marriageable women flat don't exist anymore retard. When the fuck is the last time you ever had to date?
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>>543053981
I like the way some women around me look, for sure, but they are all operating at the level of transaction. Their values and desires are algorithmically programmed, bordering on being fundamentally machinic. They express sexual interest, I open the door for potential friendship, and they never, ever step through it. Every new day has the same reault with the same routines regardless of generation or "SMV". These *things* are no longer human in my estimation.
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>>543056112
Oh yes tools and technology, deep philosophical concepts. Time invested in a cellular device is ultimately wasted, it's a useless tool, the apps are useless. People don't even use them to call people. They're just porn devices. Huge bottleneck in technological progress, that's probably why they went with AI, which is a bubble. To me it seems like the tools and technology stopped advancing
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>>543030942
Stupid statement, because most people ARE total bootlicking NPCs, you faggot.
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>>543056176
>your daughter will live with you forever
>okay I will protect her from evil forever
>uh you can't get a date
what are you talking about?
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>>543056058
It's okay to be retarded but this place also doesn't use algorithms to guide you into various algorithms featuring radicalizing content specific to a group. That doesn't mean it's not social media. We can agree to disagree. As I said, your replies are stupefying and tediously unremarkable, such that whatever you think you're saying that is persuasive or clarifying in a factual way doesn't enter into the picture. I consider you wrong by reason of nuisance alone. You're not even trying.
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>>543056260
it seems you are stuck in your progress and think everyoe else is along side you. it is a tool you can use to complete tasks or gain knowledge. if you are in the larger percent that use it for porn and whatever else i can understand why you hate it, it is destroying your life from you perspective. but understand it is you destroying your own life not the cell phone conneted to the interwebs. damn bro
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>>543056421
>It's okay to be retarded but this place also doesn't use algorithms to guide you into various algorithms featuring radicalizing content specific to a group.
Social media existed before the algorithms existed you dumb faggot.
4chan is a message board. It's usenet with images. Usenet wasn't social media.
Fucking retard.
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>>543056480
Again, you might not have understood what life was like before cellhpones, but they very are much a kike grift useless technology. They tried to pretend like indian created apps were groundbreaking but they're all garbage. It's a bottlenecked subscription based tech to sell PCBs from china and sell your data, that's all they are, compared to a PC
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>>543056508
Algorithms aren't part of my claim that 4fag is social, only how it differs from parasocial.

It's social because it diffuses and accustoms its users to site-specific memes. I have a problem at home and I exclaim "niggers tongue my anus". I didn't read that in a book about the history of Sugar. I got it here, socializing.
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>>543056847
>Algorithms aren't part of my claim that 4fag is social, only how it differs from parasocial.
Irrelevant either way. Social media existed before algorithms. It's social media + algorithms makes it more insane, doesn't change the fact that it predates them.
>It's social because it diffuses and accustoms its users to site-specific memes
Same could be said of a message board in the 90s, but those were never ever called "social media". You are so fucking stupid.
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>>543056630
what are you talking about. what have you been forced into? cellphones are a tool you can use them however you choose. your employer may force some sort of package or access but you can refuse to make that agreement. what are you being forced into doing? what age am i to expet you are, you sound like a teenager? being at home in front of a pc is not any healthier. is there a point you are trying to make?
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>>543056847
social media was always about creating a product and that product was you. You curate what you say to accumulate goodboy points or izzat. But it again is a useless pointless endeavor, like reddit karma. What are you actually using reddit for? Accumulation of data, what do people actually use reddit for? Shilling products and grooming
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>>543056937
I'm fundamentally saying cellphones are a marketing grift, useless technology that sell your watch time/ad space/attention span and scrape your data. Their functionality is limited by apps which have universally always been garbage. Okay you want to use them for social media? Social media is pointless. They're literally pointless
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>>543057040
well i love that for you and enjoy life without a cellphone, you win!
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>>543057146
>life without a cellphone
I wonder why the government shills stopped talking about all the horrible effects cellphones had on women, surely crushing them all, which would be a universal good for society, wouldn't be good for all the cellphone infrastructure and tracking and data scraping
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>>543055648
in the past an intelligent person could make this observation and relocate themselves accordingly. We are all trapped inside a global international technology machine that:
(a) cannot collapse without destroying everything including most complex multicellular life
(b) cannot collapse and also return to the state that it was previously (due to thermodynamic decay of easily available starting resources)
(c) cannot survive demographic obliteration of genetic depression

collapse is not an option whatsoever yet here we are and that is what is happening. It is infuriating yet what you said is true:
>(they) simply do not have a mental framework for what is required to maintain that level of luxury.
we just have to solve the problem
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>>543057221
can I see a pic of your coarkboard?
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>>543057504
of course such a functionally useless technology could only be for one thing, spying on people
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>>543057550
your right i already have it from your cellphone usage, how dumb of me. i will go check the data.
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Parasocial sites want to attach >>543056913
The algorithms are there to guide you to nodes with exact content. Content creators are paid for their influential reach. They do this to gain popularity. Their face, their brand, their subs. They are the only ones with agency. So, not really social media. Parasocial.

As for your gay semantic argument that bulletin boards without images were never called social media, that is hardly convincing. 4coom is global in reach, it supports images and multimedia files, has anonymous interactions with diverse groups of people, and there are no niche communities here. It's a metric ton of garbage content going way off topic and having no curated purpose save to silence certain voices. It's not really like a bbs at all.
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>>543057619
yes I am right
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>>543057646
i checked your corkboard from the data trail you left by your cellphone. you aren't really a threat, sorry i wasted so much time on you. the gang stalking will stop now.
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>>543057776
okay I don't really care, because like the technology, the data is useless to most people unless you're some sort of power tripping parasite class
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>>543057633
>As for your gay semantic argument that bulletin boards without images were never called social media, that is hardly convincing.
But it's true you dumb faggot. If facts don't convince you then I feel sorry for your.
>It's not really like a bbs at all.
O rly?
>it supports images and multimedia files
Usenet did this too. They were called binaries usenet groups.
> has anonymous interactions with diverse groups of people
You don't think usenet had this?
>and there are no niche communities here.
Now this is podracing.
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>>543030942
Bingo.
But this was feature/intent. Not bug.
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>>543057633
also the algorithms are not any novel structural innovation to internet communication. 4chan is just the basic universal architecture that has not seen any improvements since the internet was mass adopted



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