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Supposedly Tiberius had the worshipers of Baal that survived the Punic wars hung from trees by their entrails.

Why does this religion keep showing up? The Jews tried to genocide it, the Romans tried to genocide it and it still flared back up during the crusades 1000 years later.
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>>543055338
because child sacrifice is arguably one of the most evil things in this world
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>>543055338
Abortion is baby sacrifices, it never went away
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>>543055469
Yes and what draws people to it. I get the "do ut des" idea at the basic level but what would actually make someone think ill murder my kid to get what I want.

then its even weirder it survives as a cannibalistic cow.
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>>543055338
>the jews tried to...
Excuse me, retard, but your self insert fantasies have no bearing on reality.
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>>543055338
Baal is the true God of this world.
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>attempt to extract the magic of conception
>fail
>attempt to extract the magic of conception
>fail
>attempt to extract the magic of conception
>fail
Surely they'll figure out that the magic is a lifetime, right? Right?
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>>543055650
Yeah that was a very strange thing for OP to add, they did the exact opposite of thag
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>>543055650
why would it be in the bible then that god commanded them to kill them
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>>543055338
Read up a little, anon. It’s good and easy. Baal was a Canaanite god, worshiped by other peoples besides the Carthaginians. The Carthaginians, by the way, only sacrificed infants (something historians still debate today) in times of extreme necessity (e.g., the Punic Wars). And human sacrifice wasn’t something exclusive to them at that time. Baal was a benevolent god, the god of storms and rain, who brought prosperity to the fields. It was the Christcucks who, in their struggle for monotheism, and over the course of centuries, transformed him into a demon
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>>543056060
>why would the tribe of self insertion be commanded to kill itself and then not?
Uh. That's not coherent.
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>>543055338
Baal when existed on Earth had an army of overpowered demons (Nephelim). Some ultra gigachad men defeated the shit out of them. The problem though is that they are exiled from the kingdom of God so they are forced to have their souls trapped here. Though they can still be summoned in living bodies (possess) and that's what elites trying to do... Kinda stupid but I'm not gonna judge...
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>>543056077
>in times of necessity
So they needed to raise an army and killed infants instead. Hmm. Yes, it seems they did not understand sacrifice.
>Send your firstborn to war.
>Oh, torch my baby in a fire? OK.
>Great. Guess it's mercenaries.
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide
Ba'al means master to the phoenicians and carthaginians, YHWH is a combination of ba'al hadad and el, moloch is the name of the sacrifice
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>jews tried to genocide it

so they claim

(the god of the bible is called baal by david himself)
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide it
Sneaky. They're the ones who worship Baal.
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>>543056239
Roughly this, it's just Saturn worship as it changed over the years.
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>>543055338
Why were rabbinics inventing carve-outs in the mishna 150+ years after the temple fell for parents who sacrificed their child w/o a priest when the Israelites stoned Molekh worshippers to death?

They want us to believe the Israelite's just didn't write that down....for 2000+ years..
lol
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>>543056201
They did not kill infants en masse. Not many remains have been found in the tophets relative to their age. It is believed that noble families voluntarily offered up one of their babies, and only if they had several. In their view, pleasing the god was the most important thing. But again, in ancient times, human sacrifice was considered the ultimate act, and the Romans also practiced it during the Second Punic War and in the Archaic period. The Carthaginians were rolling in money, so they hired mercenaries rather than using civilian armies. And that led to their downfall after the First Punic War
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide it
Why would Jews get rid of their own god? They're the reason why child sacrificing still exists.
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>>543056769
This is how they muddy the waters. OP probably is one.
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boaz and jachin
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>>543055338
It keeps 'showing up' because it never went anywhere in the first place and you have no fucking idea what you're talking about in the first place. That's why
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General reminder that Tiberius was the Jeffrey Epstein of his time and if this is even true probably saved those kids so he could molest them on his sex island
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>>543056804
More likely he's just a Christian who can't realize that Yahweh is the Baal they complain about.
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>>543056643
>could please said god by thriving
>do literally anything else because thriving bad
Form follows function.
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>>543056441
Baal means master its not a name
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>>543056060
I get what youre trying to say. Its twi different groups. The Bible Jews from the OT are not the ones we have today. In fact, the ones today are actually canaanites. Canaanites were the ones that sacrificed children. They were suppose to be wiped out, and if they weren't, the were going to become a really big problem for the Jews one day
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>>543056878
It definitely could be that too.
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>>543056604
The death penalty their is for inagurateing the childnin a pagen rite, the passing thru the fire dose not mean burning alive here if the child was passed thru the fire in a way that resulted in his death they woild be liable for murder withch is a death penalty
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>>543055338
Sacrifice follows the logic of pagan offerings having a tier list of value that goes something like:
>grain offering < wine < animal < unblemished lamb < human < first born son
It seemed to keep flaring up in times of desperation. Jesus actually did a pretty good job of ending sacrifice logic by inverting it and asking for no offerings.

>>543056955
You're not following the logic of ancient religion. Gods are moody forces of nature that will send you disasters if you don't give them blood and gifts and stuff. They thought they won't thrive if they don't do it.
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>>543057189
>The Bible Jews from the OT are not the ones we have today
We are their mutted desendants and the cannaites were a problem in biblical times after the death of yeshua ben nun
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>>543057403
Just drink your idols blood and eat his flesh right pagen cross kisser
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>>543055338
Baal (or Ba'al) simply means lord/master/owner/husband. It is a title, not a name.

When people refer to the Canaanite/Phoenician god "Baal" they are referring to "Baal Hadad" (Lord Hadad)

Asides from Ba'al Hadad, who is identified with Zeus (Jupiter) there is also:
- Ba'al Zebub (Beelzebub, lord of the flies) of the Philistines
- Ba'al Hammon of Carthage who is identified with Cronus (Saturn)
- Ba'al Peor of the Moabites.
- Hubal (Hubaal) who is now known as Allah to the Muslims.
- etc.

"this religion" you refer to is one of many denominations under the umbrella of anti-Christianity (more popularly known as Satanism) which is filled with anti-Christians of all stripes & colors, each worshipping their own fallen angel(s)/idols who rebel against Yahweh, the God of gods, our Creator.

Every false "pagan god" is merely a rebellious fallen angel who founded his own religion/ideology for men to worship.

Only those with the faith of Abraham (who are now known as Christians) truly know and worship Yahweh the Father for we truly know and worship Yahweh the Son (known as Jesus Christ) who purchased us with His blood to save us from slavery to Sin.

Abraham has a personal relationship with Yahweh the Son, just as we do.

Hope this helps.
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>>543055338
What is the source for this claim regarding Tiberius? Which Tiberius? The princeps Tiberius Caesar? He was born almost 100 years after the end of the Punic War
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>>543057403
>you're not following the delusional cargo cult retardation
Huh. That's...odd. I wonder what happened.
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>>543057150
Yes, and Baal Zebûl means "lord of the abode", But masoretes, as a mockery, changed it to Baal Zebub (lord of the flies)
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>>543057351
Look at the way this beast types. Dirty kikel.
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>>543057584
Its good to mock your idols
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>>543055338
JESUS IS BAAL
JEWS WORSHIP BAAL THE CHILD RAPING NIGGER AKA JESUS
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>>543057455
That's the point kike. It's inverted like I said.
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>>543057709
Nothing wrong with that, indeed. People who takes religions seriously has a serious mental/moral deficit
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>>543055338
Because kikes keep reviving it.
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>>543056060
> Conflating modern Rabbinicalism with anything in the Bible
LOL!
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Arrogant monkeys doing arrogant monkey things. That's all it ever was.
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>>543055338
>Why does this religion keep showing up?
Because it's not like the literal demons who teach it were killed. They're still around right now.
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>>543057865
This is why no one respects euoropians any nore you have been consumed by nhilism
>>543055338
Threadly reminder to ignore meme flags and tondisparage all pagens be they christian, hindu or any outher kind of abomination
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>>543058053
Incorrect, only Christians are Abrahamic. Every other religion is pagan.

Hope this helps.
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Here is a truth nuke none of you are prepared to accept: BECAUSE IT WORKS
Whatever spiritual being is pretending to be Baal does in fact make your wishes come true if you sacrifice a child otherwise people would stop sacrificing
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Let's say people sacrificed kids to make harvest better. If they had consistently bad harvests or it was so-so do you think they would keep sacrificing? At some point they would realize it's pointless and doesn't affect the outcome of the harvest at all.
BUT IT WORKS, that's the scary part.
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide it
They literally carried it
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>>543058151
It's pretty obvious, all of the elites in our world have all participated in child/human sacrifice. It is how they come into power.

It does work, but why go against Jesus Christ like this?

For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? - Matthew 16:26
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>>543058139
You dumb ass nigger don't even know what pagan means or where it comes from
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>>543058139
You worship a man thats a huge no no, worship is only for the one g-d
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>>543058151
Know what else is real? Karmic retribution.
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>>543058151
This is why the Bible itself forbids sorcery. There are genuine unholy communication methods between demons and people.
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>>543058336
Reject idol worship, stop revering a man and his image, give all praise to g-d your maker
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>>543058429
No you fucking jeet karma isn't real you're confusing the sovereignty of God to judge and have mercy with some spooky nonpersonal force. Knock it off
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>>543058448
Jesus Christ is God Almighty. You need to turn to Him.
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>>543058474
You'll find out.
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>>543057513
From Tertullian, talking about roman settlement of the area
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>>543058499
No men are men and g-d is g-d, on judgment day you will not be able to feighn ignorance to escape your guilt becuase you have been informed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rILvTizoYpM
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>>543058499
jesus would have called you a dog for being a non-jew
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>>543058151
>>543058307

came here to post this, it's because it works

the thing with all worship is that sometimes your demands get fulfilled, sometimes not, but there's things you can do to enhance the chances of them getting fulfilled by both God and demons and sacrificing more is a comparably effective way to increase the odds of getting heard, which is why sacrificing your first born is effective in comparison (to demons, God rejects destructive sacrifices, he likes sacrifices of devotion, like fasting, praying, giving to those in need, celibacy etc)
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>>543058354
Pagan = non-Abrahamic = non-Christian = anti-Christian

A pagan is merely an anti-Christian.

>>543058359
Yahweh revealed Himself to all of humanity as Jesus Christ. Talmudic Rabbinism has rejected Jesus Christ and so have rejected Yahweh.

In the Tanakh, the Angel of YHWH is a pre-incarnate manifestation of Yahweh the Son.

Hope this helps.

>>543058448
I revere Yahweh who came in the form of a man, in order so that we may personally know Him. If you know Jesus Christ then you know who Yahweh the Father truly is, for by knowing the Son you now know the Father.

We were all once enemies of Yahweh, but He has extended His mercy & compassion unto us, and I wish to extend to you the mercy & compassion that He has given me.

John 8:54-55 - 54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ 55 But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word.

Of whom the rabbis call God (Yahweh) that God is Jesus Christ's Father. Jesus Christ then goes on to say that the pharisees did not know Yahweh.

Think about it, my fellow neighbor, Abraham had a personal relationship with Yahweh the Son. The Angel of YHWH who would incarnate as Jesus Christ is the same one who came to Abraham in Genesis chapter 18 and would inform him about the child of promise.
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>>543055650
hello jam boy.
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>>543058806
Your belive in a greco roman demigod figure do not conflate it with the creator
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>>543058891
I do not believe in Yahweh. I know Yahweh personally.

May you come to know His Son, Jesus Christ, one day.
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>>543058992
All this talk of the son and habeing a human form is completly unexeptable to those who follow the faith of avraham
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>>543055338
Jews worship fallen angels and make deals and sacrifices. If you read the old testament and the talmud is all polytheistic. King Solomon and other ancient rulers learned about this a dealt with them directly. King Solomon was the first demonologist that tried to enslave the legions of hell to further his dominance and rule. Many of his wives and concubines worshipped demons masquerading as gods. Caananites(jews) are not the Israelites.
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>>543059124
This is why although muslims follow a false prophet i do not denigrate them as i do pagens such as yourself
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>>543055338
>Supposedly Tiberius had the worshipers of Baal that survived the Punic wars hung from trees by their entrails.
This is the first I'm hearing about this and I've spent almost every day for the last ten years browsing/pol/ so I think you made it up.

Number one hanging people from trees by their guts doesn't sound like something a Roman would do.

Number two and perhaps most important of all, Emperor Tiberius lived over a hundred years after the destruction of Carthage.

So yeah, fuck off retard.
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>>543059184
Infantes penes Africam Saturno immolabantur palam usque ad proconsulatum Tiberii qui ipsos sacerdotes ... votivis crucibus exposuit teste militia patriae nostrae, quae id ipsum munus illi proconsuli functa est

It was when they were settling the region after the third punic war
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>>543059124
Only Christians have the faith of Abraham, neighbor.

John 8:56 - 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”

Galatians 3:8-9 - 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, proclaimed the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

Galatians 3:16 - 16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.

Galatians 3:29 - 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, heirs according to promise.

Hope this helps, neighbor.

>>543059167
Muslims are also pagans, neighbor. If you wish to have the faith of Abraham then I implore you to start searching for Christ Jesus.
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>>543059367
Muslims miaguided as they are belive in one g-d and knotjat he is bot a human nor dose he have the a human body and in general they are good about the prohibition of makeing graven images, you need to go leanr and observe the seven laws of noa
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>>543059495
Christians also follow the 2nd Commandment (Exodus 20:4–6), neighbor.

We are well aware of the Zionists putting effort into creating a global Noahide religion. It is completely unnecessary however as we place all our faith on who Yahweh actually is and not on man's sinful wishes on who they want Yahweh to be.

I would argue that all evil in the world stems from Man being unable to accept Yahweh for who He is while attempting to redefine Good & Evil for themselves.

Hope this helps, neighbor.
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>>543059917
Zionist want a soceity of atheist not a world of noahides worshiping g-d, the whole aim of zionist is to seperate the nation of israel from hasjem, that is why theu import ethiopians, russians and all outher kinds of goyim here and refuse to allow the reinstitution of sacrofices on the temple mount
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>>543059917
Kek goyest goy award
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>>543057407
Palestinians are the actual natives of le holy land (tm) and the actual descendants of those OG kikes. Khazarians are eastern european converts from the 12th century onward.
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>>543058474
Karma is simply moral cause and effect, unless you think such a thing doesn't exist
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>>543055338
Because evil fuel it. Bad people will be sympathiser of the jews.
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>>543060064
If it's not the Zionists, then who is in charge of the First International Congress of Noahides that is happening in Jerusalem in November 2026?
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>>543058737
The parable of the good samaritan implies otherwise.
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>>543059917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIRzvcTT4Y
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>>543060218
https://natlawreview.com/press-releases/non-jews-20-countries-convene-jerusalem-first-international-congress

"The Congress, held at the Seven Arches Hotel on the Mount of Olives overlooking the Old City, is convened by Brit Olam, the World Noahide Center, under the presidency of Rabbi Oury Cherki. It carries the blessings of the Chief Rabbis of Israel and the support of ministers in the Israeli government, and will include an official reception at Beit HaNasi, the Residence of the President of Israel in Jerusalem."
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>>543060238
John 8:54-55 fellow neighbor.

"54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ 55 But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word."

"It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God (Yahweh).’"
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>>543060135
Ashekanzi jews predate the 12 century and this country is majority mizrahi and i am well aware that many of the so callled arabs here are not actualle penisular arabs
>>543060218
Rabbi cherki, actualle zionist are not religouse even the religoude zionist movement is one born of confusion and as destied from the start never to be ecepted true blue blood tzionim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oury_Amos_Cherki
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>>543060238
Jesus Christ then goes on to say that the Pharisees do not know Yahweh and that He (Jesus Christ) does know Yahweh.

>>543060381
Thank you for the information, fellow neighbor. I'm reading over it now.
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>>543055338
They still worship Baal to this day, those trafficking rings
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide it
LOL LMAO
Then they adopted their disgusting blood sacrifices and then intermarried with the Canaanite whores after slaughtering all the men. Fucking please nigga.
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>>543060381
I looked over his biography and I found this:

"His grandfather, Eyzer Cherki, was a Torah scholar and community leader in Algeria, and later in France. Eyzer served as the president of the Zionist Federation of Algeria, a representative at the Zionist Congress, and was involved in the founding of Jewish education in Algeria. Cherki's father was a businessman, held a doctorate in economics, and supported his grandfather in his public activities."

Cherki is one of the founders of the organization Brit Olam – Noahide World Center

And at the same time, he is the grandson of a man who served as the president of the Zionist Federation of Algeria. Furthermore, Cherki's own father also supported Cherki's grandfather in these public activities.

While we cannot definitively say that Cherki is a Zionist, I am sure that you and I can both agree that his father & grandfather were (heavily) involved in Zionism.

Perhaps Cherki went against his father & grandfather?
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>>543060717
"Oury Amos Cherki, an Israeli Orthodox rabbi and leader of the religious-Zionist movement, views the establishment of the State of Israel as the beginning of the redemption (atchalta d'geulah). He asserts that modern political Zionism, culminating in the Balfour Declaration and the founding of the state, marks the final act in the process of redemption, placing Jews in the "period of the Messiah" according to Jewish law.

Cherki emphasizes that Judaism has a universal mission to bless all humanity while respecting distinct national identities, rather than creating a cosmopolitan world religion. He argues that the Zionist enterprise is the return of the divine presence to Zion and that the Jewish people must actively pursue this purpose by bringing Jewish wisdom to global existential questions. In his view, the Israeli nation represents a unique civilization that challenges Western hegemony and serves as a conduit for divine revelation to the world."

"Yes, Oury Amos Cherki is a prominent Religious Zionist. Born in Algeria in 1959 and raised in France, he immigrated to Israel in 1972 to study at Mercaz HaRav Yeshiva under Zvi Yehuda Kook, a foundational figure in Religious Zionism."
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>>543060717
I dont engage with those flags, but here I will tell you.
> The history of Ashkenazi Jews in Europe is well-documented long before the 12th century. The Rhineland communities (in modern Germany and France) were already heavily established by the 8th and 9th centuries under Charlemagne. Mainstream genetic and historical consensus places the origin of Ashkenazi populations even earlier, tracing back to migrations from Italy and the Levant during the Roman Empire. Stating they predate the 12th century is a basic historical fact, not a counter-argument to anything.
> This is demographically outdated. While Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews became the largest Jewish demographic group in Israel following the mass expulsions from Arab and Muslim lands in the 1940s and 1950s, the demographics have shifted.
>Due to the massive wave of Soviet immigration in the 1990s and decades of intermarriage (where third-generation Israelis often have mixed Ashkenazi and Mizrahi ancestry), Israel's Jewish population is no longer a strict Mizrahi majority. Presenting it as a monolithic demographic block ignores modern Israeli census reality.
> This is a pedantic semantic trick. In modern anthropology and linguistics, "Arab" is a cultural and linguistic identity, not a genetic purity test originating solely from the Arabian Peninsula.
>The populations of the Levant, Egypt, and North Africa were Arabized following the Islamic conquests of the 7th century. Everyone is well aware that Levantine Arabs share genetic continuity with ancient Canaanites, Phoenicians, and Israelites. Pointing out they aren't "Peninsular" does not change their recognized geopolitical and cultural identity today.
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>>543057679
"Oh yeah, they were doing pagan shit, but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be"
>kek
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>>543060916
>>543060849
> This completely misunderstands the evolution of Jewish political and religious thought. While the political architecture of modern Zionism was indeed founded by secular thinkers like Theodor Herzl, the movement was spiritually anticipated by centuries of religious longing for Zion.
> Furthermore, Religious Zionism (pioneered by thinkers like Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook) is not a "confusion"—it is a distinct, robust theological framework that views the secular rebuilding of the land as part of a divine, messianic process.
> This is pure ideological posturing with no basis in reality. In modern Israel, Religious Zionists hold massive political power, dominate elite military units, and are deeply woven into the foundational fabric of the state. The idea that they are "not accepted" by some hypothetical "blue blood Zionists" is a fringe viewpoint completely disconnected from the actual balance of power and social reality inside the country today.
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>>543058151
>>543058776
You two are funny but you should stop because a woman might read this and pull a Clancey.
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>>543060381
My neighbor, it seems that religious Zionism has a vested interest in global Noahidism from what I have read so far.
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I think if you don't like someone for a different reason you just accuse them of worshiping Baal so you're allowed to kill them.
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moloch is not a name either.
El is a name though.
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>>543060916
>>543060961
I see, thank you anon. I'll keep this information saved.
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>>543055338
And why should I care about some desertcoon fairytales?
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>>543057495
>Every false "pagan god" is merely a rebellious fallen angel who founded his own religion/ideology for men to worship.
The Bible literally says that "God most high" divided humanity and gave them to these false gods.
In fact, as the maker of these false gods, all evils can be traced back to "God most high."
Now convince me to worship such a being after he gave me to the devils he so condemns.
I dare you to convert me.
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>>543057407
legit
gold star
>no not that kind
>picrel
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>>543060962
what do you think she was doing? look at her eyes

the women already know, that's why they insist on their right for abortion so fervently
all this trying to get them to admit it's a human being they are killing isn't doing anything because they know very well that it is, they just don't care that it is because it being a human being that gets killed for their personal comfort is the whole point
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>>543061052
Here are the sources:
> Documents from the Carolingian Empire show that Emperor Charlemagne and his successors officially invited and protected Jewish merchants in the Rhineland (modern Germany and France) during the 8th and 9th centuries.
>The Genetic Evidence: A landmark 2022 ancient DNA study published in Cell extracted genomes from a 14th-century cemetery in Erfurt, Germany. The data proved that the medieval Ashkenazi population had undergone a massive genetic bottleneck over 1,000 years ago (around the 9th or 10th century), meaning their distinct lineage was already fully formed in Europe long before the 12th century.
> The Israel Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) and comprehensive studies like the Pew Research Center’s 2016 Report on Israeli Identity.
>The Fact: Following the mass arrivals of over one million Jews from the former Soviet Union in the 1990s, the numerical balance shifted. Today, the CBS categorizes the population primarily as Sabras (Israeli-born). Because of high rates of intermarriage among second- and third-generation Israelis, over 50% of Israeli Jews now carry mixed ancestry (partial Mizrahi and partial Ashkenazi/Sephardic), making old, rigid demographic bins outdated
> The 2020 genetic study, The Genomic History of the Middle East, published in Cell, alongside older foundational work by geneticist Marc Haber.
>The Fact: Peer-reviewed genomic data shows that modern Arabic-speaking populations in the Levant derive between 81% and 87% of their ancestry from Bronze Age Levantines (Canaanites). Users on discussion boards like Reddit widely note that Levantines have minimal genetic ancestry from the actual Arabian Peninsula. The term "Arab" applied to them is a cultural and linguistic result of the 7th-century Islamic expansions, not a peninsular migration
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>>543061232
>: Orot ("Lights") and The Letters of Rabbi Kook by Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook, the first Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of British Mandatory Palestine.
>The Fact: Rabbi Kook established the definitive theological defense of modern Israel. He argued that secular Zionists were unconsciously acting as agents of a divine, cosmic design to rebuild the land, merging physical nationalism with orthodox Jewish mysticism. It is a highly cohesive, separate school of orthodox thought
> nstitutional Reality of Religious Zionism
>To show that this movement is completely accepted and holds dominant power in modern Israel:
> The Evidence Base: Look at the modern makeup of the Knesset (Israeli Parliament), where parties representing the Dati Leumi (National Religious) sector hold critical ministries (such as Finance and National Security). Furthermore, sociological tracking shows they make up a vastly disproportionate percentage of elite combat officers in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), proving they are completely central to the modern Israeli establishment.
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>>543055650
Yknow, if you cared to read the bible; theres several sections where thw prophets and priesthood of baal and the like get BTFO by israel's kings, prophets, soldiers, and ultimately the God of Israel

Elijah comes to mind, seeing as we are in the days of elijah; and before an altar gets decomissioned there will be ayet another false prophet of the antichrist misdirecting the nations
Food for thought: lurk before posting dribble that just embarasses you
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>Exodus 13:2
>Exodus 13:11–16
>Exodus 22:29
>Exodus 34:19–20
>Numbers 3:13
>Numbers 8:16–18
>Numbers 18:15–17
>Genesis 22:1–19
>Micah 6:6–8
>2 Kings 3:27
>Ezekiel 20:25–26
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>>543058139
European paganism is far superior than Christianity. It's your loss.
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>>543061765
and by superior you mean caters more to your vices?
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>>543061107
>“The Bible literally says that ‘God Most High’ divided humanity and gave them to these false gods.”
Deuteronomy 32:8–9 does speak of the Most High dividing the nations according to the “sons of God” in the ancient textual tradition. But it does not say God commanded the nations to worship them. Scripture actually condemns worship of other spiritual beings (Deuteronomy 32:17).

>“As the maker of these false gods, all evils can be traced back to God Most High.”
That does not follow biblically. God created spiritual beings, but Scripture distinguishes creating a free moral creature from causing that creature’s rebellion. Creation was called “very good” (Genesis 1:31), while rebellious angels are held responsible for abandoning their proper place (Jude 6). James 1:13 also says God is not the author or tempter of evil.

>“Now convince me to worship such a being after he gave me to the devils he so condemns.”
The Bible’s message is that God did not abandon the nations permanently. After the nations were scattered, God immediately began his plan through Abraham to bless “all the families of the earth” (Genesis 12:3). Psalm 82 pictures God judging the corrupt spiritual powers and ultimately inheriting all nations, while the New Testament says Christ defeats those powers and rescues people from their dominion (Colossians 1:13; 2:15).

So the Christian claim is not, “God gave you to demons and then blamed you for it.” It is that human and spiritual beings rebelled, God judged that rebellion, and then God acted through Christ to defeat those powers and reclaim the nations.

>I dare you to convert me.
I cannot convert you anon. Man does not save Man. It is God who saves Man. It is impossible for me to give you Salvation. However, I can tell you with certainty that God saved me, and He can save you just as He saved me. All that I do now is serve as one of his many ambassadors.

>>543061232
>>543061281
Thank you my friend.
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>>543061953
Explain what vices because I don't support murdering children, passivity like sending your money to foreign nations, or a god that tells me to subjugate all people under one totalitarian rule. That all belongs to Yahweh.
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>>543061957
>But it does not say God commanded the nations to worship them.
If all you know is sin, you grow up to be a sinner.
Giving me over to the devil is the same as commanding me to worship devils, as my conduct is the product of my environment. I do as I have learned, and all I have learned is to sin.
>God created spiritual beings
who did evil, therefor God is the origin point of those actions.
>God is not the author [...] of evil
Yes, he is. He made the ones who did evil, therefore he is the one to blame.
>It is that human and spiritual beings rebelled, God judged that rebellion, and then God acted through Christ to defeat those powers and reclaim the nations.
I did as I learned growing up among sinners, all I know is how to sin. God had abandoned me even before I was born. He certainly hasn't reclaimed me, and even if he did in the future it doesn't make my actions undone.
>He can save you just as He saved me
Then why doesn't he do just that?
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>>543061765
I was a pagan for over 25 years of my life. I thought I knew better than God, foolish man that I once was. Despite living in rebellious "freedom" all of it was ultimately vain & empty and I was completely checked out of life, understanding that there was absolutely no hope for this world.

Then Yahweh saved me, and I now have a Hope that can never be diminished, it only grows, and I have a sense of godly peace that can never be shaken.

Life is beautiful, Life is Good, but this is only truly understood by Christians.

Do search for Christ, anon. It is never too late to work with God in expanding the Kingdom of Heaven and dismantling the kingdom of darkness. Everything non-Christian shall perish, so choose life.

Hope this helps.
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>>543062135
no, that all belongs to judaism, which isn't christian in any way since christianity by definition requires someone to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and all these things go directly against what he taught

>explain what vices
pride for example, a lot of pagan believes are direct symptoms of pride, how exactly depend on what pagan believes you have, which I can't guess since paganism is such a vast term
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>>543062246
>Then why doesn't he do just that?
1) Christians have been imploring you, neighbor.

"20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God." - 2 Cor 5:20

God is begging you to return to Him, I am begging you with tears in my eyes as one of His ambassadors to you today. God has not abandoned you, He wants you to return home to the Kingdom of Heaven. He does not want you to serve a society that hates you and wants to destroy you.

2) Salvation begins with experiencing godly sorrow.

"10 For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death." - 2 Cor 7:10

I plead with you, ask Yahweh for the experience of this godly sorrow. I desire for your spiritual eyes & ears to be opened.

Without God saving us, we remain spiritually dead in our sins, unable to move. Even Faith is a gift from God, my neighbor. Before coming to Christ we are dead in faith.
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>>543055538
TRVKE
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>>543055616
Its more of a once you start you can't stop sort of thing. Once you do something like that with a group of people you're now in perhaps the deepest bond you can be in with another person. The only community you can ever have are other child killers. And if you have guilt about the whole thing, you need to keep doing it because otherwise you'd have to confront the thought that you've been killing kids for no reason this whole time. Its a natural progression from the idea of sacrifice, and once you start its really hard to just go back to normal.
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>>543062282
Unless you're some kind of early gnostic you affirm Yahweh which by definition means you worship the same genocidal child sacrifice loving entity as them.
>pride for example
I am nothing but a vessel and seek to embody the divine masculine in its fullest. As for anything else classified as "pride" like being proud to be part of such great ancestry, shame in such things are foreign to every single group except Christians, a religion created specifically to subvert the European peoples. Jews base their entire religion on ancestral identity and their Yahweh even declared them as superior to other people, but you have no issue with that.
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>>543062499
All I see when I look at the so-called "Ambassadors of Christ" and "His Holy Church" are hypocrites who don't follow what they preach.
Now, I don't know you and thus can't say that for certain, but anyone can be a keyboard warrior and write grandiose texts while quoting the Bible. But from what I see in real life, you're all frauds.
Be it the Lutherans who sold out to the left, or the Roman Catholics who sold out to the Jews, no one actually follows Jesus.
That's proof enough that the whole thing is false. Everyone is just in it for the prestige and money.
>Without God saving us, we remain spiritually dead in our sins, unable to move.
You assume I want to live. While I'm not suicidal, I am also not attached to life.
I have no reason to live, but also no reason to die.
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide it
LOL no. It's what the Jews actually were, until they dreamed up Judaism during the reign of Tiberius.

To put it more precisely, the Baal-worshipers dreamed up Christianity first, in order to enslave the Romans, then they dreamed up Judaism for themselves so they could give themselves a false history and position themselves as the sacred cows of the new religion.
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>>543062624
the opposite of pride isn't shame, it's humility
the bible never teaches to not protect yourself or your people from demonic forces, that's a jewish lie that has been fed to people under the guise of "christianity" to subvert it's actual message
and no, God isn't genocidal or in favor of child sacrifice, he has wiped out sinful groups, yes, but because they were being sinful and not for no reason
people have sacrificed their children to him but he condemns them for it, just because some people don't truly know him and treat him like demons demand to be treated because they think he's just like them doesn't make it so
or is it your fault if someone gifts you a dildo because the other men he knows are all depraved and perverted faggots and he just assumed you're the same and would enjoy that gift as much as they would?

also, you calling your vices masculinity is exactly the issue, you reframe pride, wrath, lust and gluttony as honorable things to strive for, which is indeed a very pagan thing to do
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>>543062624
Pride produces shame, for “when pride comes, then comes disgrace” (Proverbs 11:2). But for those who are in Christ Jesus, there is now no condemnation (Romans 8:1). Christ bore our sins and endured the shame of the cross on our behalf (1 Peter 2:24; Hebrews 12:2), so our standing before God is no longer defined by guilt and condemnation.

Freed from the need to exalt or justify ourselves, we are now able to cultivate humility, one of the chief Christian virtues. As Scripture says, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble” (James 4:6). True humility is not self-contempt; it is seeing ourselves rightly before God, resting in His grace, and giving Him the glory.

>>543062698
There are MANY nominal Christians who've simply adopted the identity due to family/cultural tradition despite never experiencing Salvation. You can see that they are simply pagans who worship other idols while wearing the title of Christian and pretending to be one.

Matthew 15:8 - 8 “‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;"

Also consider Matthew 7:13-14 - "13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."

There are few who are Christian
There are many who are non-Christian (nominal Christians included in here)
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>>543062954
>and no, God isn't genocidal or in favor of child sacrifice, he has wiped out sinful groups, yes, but because they were being sinful and not for no reason
Next level retardation. Jews claim that about Palestinians and has forced America and Europe to partake in a genocide in the most cowardly way possible, both towards Palestinians and ourselves. Your Yahweh has no honor.
>also, you calling your vices masculinity is exactly the issue, you reframe pride, wrath, lust and gluttony as honorable things to strive for, which is indeed a very pagan thing to do
I've described nothing other than having pride in belonging to a glory of ancestors. You should ask yourself why does Christianity declare this basic self-preservation tactic that has led us to form civilizations is seen as evil to your Christian god.
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>>543063006
Goodnight neighbors and brothers in Christ. Until next time.
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Bump
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>>543056119
Lots of people are possessed on the left. Like the Clancy supporters, witches, etc. it's why they act like a hivemind and think evil things are funny
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>>543063177
so? jews have absolutely zero validity to claim anything they do or say has anything to do with God's will, they wish it did and they say it does but that doesn't make it so
they act from the same vice as you do, by taking pride in their presumed ancestral status (which isn't even real in the slightest, they are a hoard of demon worshipping middle eastern rats that have nothing to do with the blessing God gave to the descendants of Jacob) and using that to feel entitled to act selfish in the name of their perceived superiority

>You should ask yourself why does Christianity declare this basic self-preservation tactic that has led us to form civilizations is seen as evil to your Christian god
because it leads to unchecked entitlement and arrogance, which leads to cruelty and destruction- just look at the jews, they are a prime example of this mechanism at work

God tells us to judge a person by their behavior, not their genetics
ofc the jews distorted that and used it as a tool to destroy real christian by claiming this means you have to love and welcome everyone, no matter their behavior and if you oppose someone based on their behavior they twist it and claim you oppose them based on their genetics, which would actually be a bad thing to do
cont.
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>>543064084
>inb4 genetics are a good indicator of behavior
yes, because people with shared genetics have shared culture due to vicinity and shared culture leads to shared values and since someone's values are the foundation of their behavior, it's true that people with shared genetics end up having predictable similar behavior so being cautious of someone with genetics of those that have detestable behavior and demanding an individual having to proof themselves before being allowed to become part of your community is absolutely valid and doesn't go against actual christian principles
in fact, scripture tells us in matthew 18:15-17 to separate from unrepentant sinners, in matthew 10:11-15 to stay away from those that reject God's word, in matthew 7:6 to not give what is holy to those that despise it, in corinthians 5:9-13 to not associate with those that call themselves christian whilst persisting in sin and in 2 corinthians 6:14-16 to not enter any relationships with unbelievers
you're conflating the usurped jewish version of christianity with what it actually teaches and you rightfully reject that because it teaches to let the demons eat you and your people alive, but that's not what God or Jesus has ever told anyone
most of what wrongly calls itself christianity is demonic, it teaches you to love the sinner, but Jesus teaches you to love the sinner, but hate the sin, meaning that someone can regain their honor IF the repent genuinely and if they stop doing the sinful thing they were doing, it never teaches to let a sinner dwell amongst you and your people
it also teaches to come to Jesus as you are, meaning that you're never too far gone to turn things around and stop sinning but it doesn't teach "stay as you are", it teaches that anyone that persists in their sinful ways is to be cast out and shunned
what you detest about christianity is those that only teach the first part and that's extremely valid because them perpetuating that narrative is demonic
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>>543063372
good night and God bless you
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>>543060135
>Palestinians are the actual natives of le holy land (tm) and the actual descendants of those OG kikes

No they're not. Genetic testing by secular, non-partisan groups has found that modern day palestinians (the ones living in Gaza and the West Bank) are not a distinct people group. It's just a mish mash of people groups, with the largest genetic component being arabs from throughout the middle east.
Those genetic studies corroborate what the Bible says. That land that is currently in dispute (modern day Israel) was almost entirely unihabitable. No one lived there except for nomads that would pass through.
It shows you how stupid the Free Palestine people are.
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>>543055338
>Why does this religion keep showing up? The Jews tried to genocide it
You fool. They were ordered to genocide it, and instead, in their arrogance and hubris, they just had a little, as a treat, and turned their backs on God and adopted it. They practice it to this day.
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>>543055338
>Why does this religion keep showing up? The Jews tried to genocide it,
Anon... the jewish religion is founded on it. The patriarch of all jews himself, Abraham, was commanded to drag his kid Isaac up to the top of the mountain to be killed in human sacrifice. The name the jews use for "God" in that passage is "Elohim", but it's really just a plural noun meaning demons/spirits. Which spirit? Good old Molech. Molech is their god.

It's the reason jews don't use names for their deities. If they put a name to it, even the retards would realize they're all a bunch of demon worshippers.
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>>543064375
man, jews are so pathetic
>destroy these demons, make NO exceptions
>but God, they have some cute girls with nice boobs, it can't be that bad if we just breed a few of them, right?
he should have ordered them to cut their dicks off completely, not just the tip
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>>543061052
watch your step, a lot of creative writing bullshit there.
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>>543056060
>Yahweh orders the sacrifice of all firstborn Israelite sons.
Exodus 22:29-30
>Yahweh explaining he ordered the Israelites to sacrifice their children to terrify them.
Ezekiel 20:25-26

See, what actually happened after Exodus is that the jews split up into various groups that lived independently but nearby each other
over time their interpretation of Yahweh's commands drifted apart. Some of them obeyed to the letter, others figured out they could rules lawyer the most crippling ones, and these jews gained an advantage over the others. They eventually decided to just genocide their rivals and take their stuff, then wrote the history books to to frame themselves as the good guys and the other guys as evil idolatrous pagans who kill children. This is why nobody has ever found one of the bronze baal/moloch statues that they cooked kids in. They never existed. It's jews all the way down.
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>>543065216
>Exodus 22:29-30
that passage is talking about consecrating your first born to the service of God, not to kill them
it means to "sacrifice" them to become priests or other men of God instead of using them for personal gains by making them work in the family business or so
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>>543065424
it's so fuckin funny you do the exact rules lawyering I described with zero self awareness

>thou shalt give to me the first begotten of thy sons
>also of thine oxen, and of thy sheep, thou shalt do in like manner; seven days be he with his mother, in the eighth day thou shalt yield him to me
>thou shalt do likewise with thy oxen, and with thy sheep; for seven days let him be with his mother, then on the eighth day thou shalt yield him to me.

are the sheep and oxen supposed to become priests too?
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>>543065216
the word sacrifice is never used and deals with a temple tax to per kid.
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>>543055616
It's this:
>>543055681
But I spit on him.
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Tiberius?
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Roman Catholics trying to defend being Pagan lunatics
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide it
Lmao the jews kept going back to Baal, God kept sending prophets and they kept turning away to Baal.
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>>543065668
come back when you can stop pretending to be retarded, it doesn't suit you
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>>543065216
>Yahweh orders the sacrifice of all firstborn Israelite sons.
It never even entered His mind.
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Why does Baal wear a fish themed hat?
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>>543055616
>what would actually make someone think ill murder my kid to get what I want.
Some assholes lust for power more than they find betraying their children abhorrent.
Such individuals absolutely deserve to be hung by their entrails.
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>>543065668
>Exodus 22:29-30
Even in your interpretation, to take it as literally as possible, the Levites would have been required to eat the firstborn sons, as they ate the first fruits and first born animals. You get into trouble when you have to look at the entire book of exodus rather than a single passage.

There is no evidence the jews ever ritually ate their firstborn children. You wanted to be literal now you want a more nuanced understanding of the passage that others have tried to explain to you.
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>>543057495
>Ba'al Peor
Baal Peor is "Lord of the Open Door".
And yes, by "open door" they mean a gaped asshole. He's responsible for faggotry and sexual degeneracy.
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>>543058429
>d
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>>543058359
>g-d
Say His name, nigger.
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>>543058737
The most faithful man in Judea, according to Christ, was a Roman centurion.
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>>543066308
>Say His name, nigger.
Even if he filled in the O, it's still not a name. Just a generic noun.
The jews started the nonsense of not naming their many demonic deities, because if there are no names you can't even know who it is they worship. Maybe last week's sacrifice isn't to the same demon as this week's.
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>>543059124
>those who follow the faith of avraham
That definitely rules out kikes and other satan worshipers then.
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>>543056077
True, and also Romans did systematic human sacrifices, see Vestali.
Also jews were already a thing back then, is not like Carthagineans were Jews, I cant understand this forced meme
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>>543060064
> thinks a secular government can reinstate sacrifices on Temple Mount when God himself put an end to that practice
Kikes are a riot.
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>>543064335
>modern day palestinians are not a distinct people
The fuck does that have to do with the topic at hand, you disingenuous kike rat?
Direct descendants of iron age Judeans are called "Palestinians" now, not "Jews".

(This doesn't preclude other groups being lumped in with "Palestinians".)
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>>543064541
"Elohim" refers to the Trinity. That's why it it has a plural marker.
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>>543055338
Evil, just like good, converges into a pattern.

Always will.
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>>543065668
Read the rest of the book. There's explicit commandments that forbid human sacrifice in multiple places.
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>>543066503
>is not like Carthagineans were Jews, I cant understand this forced meme
Carthagineans were part of the broader Canaanite ethnic group.

(Linguistically and culturally Hebrews were Canaanites too.)
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>>543066713
>"Elohim" refers to the Trinity.
It's just the ancient word for "spirits". From a time before apotheosis of their pantheon. Don't you get tired of the idea of "Trinity"? It's a bronze age midwit's answer to "how can we say we're monotheists if we have more than one god?"
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>>543066878
that's like claiming you are multiple entities because you have a body, mind and soul
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>my god can beat up your god the thread
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>>543066951
>that's like claiming you are multiple entities because you have a body, mind and soul
That makes it sound even stupider. Does your god do this so he can ride in the carpool lane?
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>>543066471
No it doesn't
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>>543067195
do what? have a body, mind and soul? I don't think so no, that makes zero sense
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>>543055538
Eugenics is good, negro
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>>543057938
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>>543057189
Jews sacrifice children to YHWH even in the Bible eg Japheth. You absolute retard
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>>543056060
Why would I believe what Jews say about their goy enemies? Are you stupid?
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>>543056119
Inoperable semitic brain tumor
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>>543055338
>Why does this religion keep showing up?

Occultic gobble-de-gook schizoid reason?
We cut down all the trees, we leveled and broke up all the megaliths, all the divine beasts have been culled, there's no more dragons, and all the divine bloodlines have been diluted or inbred to such a degree as to be functionally useless.
All the benign and natural sources of magic are fucking *gone, they're not likely to come back. All we have left is infant & human sacrifice: it's super easy, inexpensive, and easy to excuse or otherwise hide -there's always a couple "unwanted" kids laying around in today's society.
*With a few exceptions residing in national parks, but those are all supposedly haunted to shit and completely unresponsive due to the 'mystical' creatures within wizening up to modernity.

Secular boring reason?
"I'm bored with my wealth, what else is there left to with with my billions besides dress up like a minotaur and trafficking 2nd & 3rd world children?" And a whole lot of, "well what if it's true?"
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>>543067267
>do what? have a body, mind and soul? I
Did you register to vote for each of the 3?

You're playing word games, and somehow it seems clever to you. If the point of the word games is to make it all make sense enough that someone can believe in your twaddle, you've failed. Maybe be less flippant next time.
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>>543055338
Because some people choose to actively talk to demons(for money, power, and secret knowledge) and receive orders from them, such as to worship these pagan demon "gods." Since God gave the world over to Satan to rule in accordance with biblical prophecy, Satan can position his human/biological minions into positions of power and authority in this world.
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But to answer OPs questions. Old God were always portrayed as angry. Angry gods demand sacrifices. Firstborns calves and other animals were used to appease their anger. Romans were a brutal society but they did not practice child sacrifices.
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>>543055681
Not a god, a devil. No power of his own, needs the suffering of innocent, humans and animals. As many other devils do.
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>>543067423
no, it's you that claims these three things are supposed to be separate entities just because they are the body, mind and soul of God
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>>543056077
(((something historians still debate today)))
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>>543067497
>no, it's you that claims these three things are supposed to be separate entities just because they are the body, mind and soul of God
If they're not separate entities, then why claim there are 3 of them? That's what the word/label/name "trinity" means, dumbass.

Was it you or the other jackass that was using it as a means to explain the plural nature of the word "elohim"?
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>>543067691
Because they are three different aspects of the same entity. They possess different qualities and characteristics, just how your body can do things your mind can’t do, and your soul can do things your body can’t do but they are all still you. In different settings, different aspects of God are highlighted because those are the ones that are relevant in that particular situation. An no, that wasn't me.
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>>543058040
It tried to come back without a shred of irony during plandemic
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>>543066653
>The fuck does that have to do with the topic at hand, you disingenuous kike rat?

You people are so typical, you scream and rage whenever someone mentions the truth to you.

>Direct descendants of iron age Judeans are called "Palestinians" now, not "Jews".

What are you even talking about? No one calls the Ashkenazi and Sephardic people of Israel Palestinian. The people currently referred to as Palestinian are those who live in the West Bank and Gaza.
Those people are the ones I mentioned as not having a common genetic identiy. They are a political group and nothing else. As such they don't have a historical claim on that land. They are settlers who immigrated there under Ottoman rule and lost all claim to that land when the UK received it.
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>>543067874
>Because they are three different aspects of the same entity
No one cares. This is the same sort of scammy shit that con men perform, do you get that. No one asked about their aspects, don't much care. "Count how many gods you have, Christcuck" is a simple question. That you need it to be both 3, and 1 simultaneously because your theology is retarded isn't my problem.
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Negstive entitites cannot accept the light of creation, so they must steal it from others. Ghe lightblf crestion in man and animals is in the blood. The blood sacrifice takes it (the vitality) from them (the sacrifice) and gives it to the evil spirit and then the evil spirit is empowered and offers rewards or performs tasks. Humans create cults of these sacrifice rings to keep the evil spirits around so that they can keep getting favors. Eventually the evil spirit becomes powerful enough to where it demands fhe sacrifice first, and punishes the cult if they don't comply. Thus black magic is easier than white magic; the former attracts the predators, murders, amd thieves, and the latter requires saints.
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>>543055616
Lust for power, control

Lot of weird people in this world

There are lots of jobs in this world that most people would rather not do but others are fine doing cause it means job security + gives them money

Some people are in that situation but to an extreme, in that they are very very rich and believe they have to hurt people to manipulate riches to come to them

Others just downright hate humanity, they don't actually see themselves as humans. So it's kind of a waste of time to 'understand' their motives.

Others see the flaws in people that entrap them, like lust. They covet this kind of power over people. They essentially want to play the role of a demon. Demons may or may not be real but these people do their best to make demonic work a reality in this world.

I just watched true detective s1 for the first time, ama.
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>>543056804
Definately.
Mixing truth with lies is very stealthy.
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>>543056077
Nigga they found the fields of child skeletons buried in pots you ain't slick. Yes the Romans did fucked up shit too but makes you wonder how messed up the Carthaginians were that it revolted Roman sensibility.
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>>543056119
>Some ultra gigachad men defeated the shit out of them
No, sweaty, read Enoch. Men cried and cried until God finally listened and sent His angel squad to fix everything.
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>>543069586
>>543056119
God killed the Nephelim by way of the flood. Having no physical body to possess is true though, that's why they enter people. Most of what the el lites do is making deals with Nephilim, getting possessed by them or letting them possess others, sometimes the mysteries of the watchers are involved it's all rather evil but hey they give you temporary power before your soul is thrown in the lake of fire.
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>>543055338
Are baal worshippers related to Hindus??

I mean they are praying to a bull
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>>543058445
>This is why the Bible itself forbids sorcery
Where?
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>>543068303
Then you're in the wrong thread anon. Yes it is actually unnecessary to divide God into his different aspects but people are retarded and can't comprehend that God can have many different aspects and forms and so you have to dumb it down for them to comprehend that it's all him. They think "hurr durr how can he be omniscient and human at the same time, how can he be inside the apostles and be nailed to the cross, that makes no sense", just because their intellectual ability are extremely stunted. Unfortunately faith has to be explained in ways even the biggest retard can get it because many people are extremely retarded and even those deserve to be saved.
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>>543069947
>hen you're in the wrong thread anon. Yes it is actually unnecessary to divide God into his different aspects but people are retarded and can't comprehend that God can have many different aspects and forms and so you have to dumb it down for them to comprehend that it's all him.
You're still talking like a retard. Do you name your cat "Cat"?

Referring to a deity by some generic term is a jewish trick. It's a way to hide the fact that they're worshipping some devil or another... who can tell when they refuse to use names? Not like you can run fingerprints.

Which god do you worship anon? Do you even know, or were you trained by jews so thoroughly that you're a little confused yourself about it?
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>>543070152
Some people do name their cat "cat".
There is a very simple and effective method to check wether you're worshipping a demon or not. You just have to look at what he promises you if you follow his teachings and you have to look at what kind of person you become if you follow what he tells you faithfully. If he promises you that if you do xyz you will get 72 virgin sex slaves and an eternal boner as your reward for serving him, clearly a demon. If he tells you that you'll be elevated above everyone else and the goy will only be allowed to serve as your slave, also clearly a demon. If he tells you to deceive and scam people - demon. If he tells you that you'll get everything you want if you give him xyz, demon.
There's big chances that the ancient jew has woven in demonic worship because that seems to be something they simply can't stop doing, but if you follow what Jesus said, there is none of that. Unless you ruin it again by letting the eternal jew interpret it and sell it to you ofc.
Which is why you are supposed to read it yourself. I worship the God that is the father of Jesus. The bible tells us that this is the same God that Abraham served, or Noah. And that might be true, it might also have been muddied by jewry over the span of 6000 years but that's ok. No amount of jewery can fully destroy and conceal the one true God. He will always be distinctly different to all the demons because unlike demons, he's not trying to get you to sin by tempting you by appealing to your ego.
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>>543070534
>There is a very simple and effective method to check wether you're worshipping a demon or not. You just have to look at what he promises you if
I have no idea what it promises you. And likely you don't either. If some asshole lawyer in California can draft EULAs that keep you from knowing what the agreement actually is, a supernatural entity can surely do at least as well. You seem to like the confusion, too. Sort of wallow in it.

Don't even know your god by name. Isn't really your god, either, it's the kike's own god. Wonder what it has in store for you truly.

Wholesome things do not mind being called by their names, they encourage it. Yours is a devil.
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>>543057407
So basically it's all a load of shite? God was crucified and his chosen raped by their neighbours. The end.
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>>543070635
God can't be named because God has no name. He can only be described, which is how he got his various names.
Christianity's promise is that if you're saved, you will be united with God and you will come to know him fully. Meaning that all the things we now don't have answers to, like why God created us in the first place, will be fully answered and we will understand who he is, how he is and why he is. It's called the beatific vision.
>a supernatural entity can surely do at least as well
Ofc yes, that's true. We're so limited in our knowledge of the universe that we're very easy to be fooled by higher entities. There's nothing you can do about that, all you can do is gather as much knowledge as your small human mind can find and comprehend and try to make the best decisions based on that and hope you at least got it partially right. Believing i God is accepting your own limitations and trust that there is a higher entity that does have omniscience and that is benevolent and that will help you by guiding you away from falling for the traps of the malevolent forces. Ofc malevolent forces can use that to lead someone astray by larping as benevolent forces but usually the trickery will be exposed pretty swiftly because demons can't help themselves and act like demons eventually. They can't be something they are not without letting the mask slip every now and then. You just have to observe them long enough and you will see them show you exactly who they are.
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>>543070998
Genesis 3:22
>"And the Lord God said, 'The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.'"
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide it
Look, it's scared
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>>543056077
>only in times of extreme necessity
Look, it's trying to hide
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>>543071121
Correct, because we have knowledge of good and evil by having a conscience. We don't have omniscience, thus we are prone to be wrong about what's wrong or right, just look at all the Lindsay Clancey supporters. Which is why our moron asses being immortal would be a really bad thing, we'd mostly turn into demons immediately. We have to first prove that we have used our free will and our human knowledge of good and evil to know what is good and use our free will to chose to act on what we know is good and reject what we know is evil before being allowed to have immortality again after physical dead.
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It's a shame that we know so little of Carthage. Mostly lies and slander remain. What is the most universally appalling thing imaginable? Well they burn children alive, of course! Uh-huh.. "hung from trees by their entrails", such a good guys these "our guys"..
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>>543056643
Full damage control
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>>543057150
The meme has entered the chat
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>>543071252
>I'm going to leave my children unattended with the guy who rebelled against my kingdom
>And i'm going to punish them when they get tricked
Why do Christians believe their god is good?
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>>543055338
What if Baal is the real god ?
"Children sacrifice" accusation comes from Jews, why would you believe it ?
Romans converted to Christianity so their paganism wasn't much either
What if they lie about Baal
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>>543058151
Of course demon worship works.

Somehow you missed the point: What good is it to gain the world in exchange for becoming a demon yourself?
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is that a loving father or an abusive one?
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>>543058359
You worship Moshiach who isn't even Moshiach. What a lost pack of rape hounds.
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>>543071311
His children rebelled against him by not listening to one simple rule. The only rule he had. This is the natural consequence because he gives us a chance to not repeat the same mistake again and not fall for the trickery of the serpent and instead proof that we learned something from disobeying what he told us to do.
If you have a child and you tell them to always check for bees when running on the grass barefoot and they ignore it and get stung by a bee, the correct thing to do isn't to forbid them to ever be in the grass barefoot, it's to trust them to not be so retarded that they still don't listen what you told them to do and will be able to avoid getting stung from now on by checking where they step first. Some kids are smart and implement the parental advice pretty fast after not doing so has painful consequences but some are real dumb and will have to get stung over and over again until they get the lesson through their thick skull. Some kids might even start stepping on the bees on purpose just to prove that you "don't have any authority over them and can't tell them how to live their life" and if you point out how they are just hurting themselves they will tell you they like how it hurts because it makes them feel alive and might even start to develop a "bee sting fetish" just to spite you and stick it to you that you're not the boss of them. Some will step on bees so often it ends up actually killing them. But that's natural selection, God doesn't need any of those in his kingdom that would use their free will to act like that. That's why those can go stay with their new best buddy, satan.
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>>543055338
>hung from trees by their entrails.
Imagine being the team of guys tasked with doing that. It'd be all slippery and full of poo. Have you ever squeezed out a sausage into a frying pan?
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>>543071507
Sounds like cope. He had foresight, they did not. He knew what would happen. Why was Lucifer in the garden of Eden anyway?
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Fuck all of this
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>>543059124
>unexeptable
Verbal IQ pinnacle, everybody
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>>543071585
To give them a choice wether to obey or not. They chose to not obey. If there had been no choice, it would have been God trapping them in paradise without even giving them the right to decide if that's what they wanted or not. He told them what will happen if they disobey, they had all the necessary information to make the right decision but their ego told them that "knowing good from evil" is worth more than being allowed to stay in paradise and that's exactly what they got.
If he hadn't created satanic, he wouldn't have given them a choice, which would have made him the same as a rapist, not a loving creator.
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>>543071656
Alright. Now keep in mind that it is a jewish religion.
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>>543071735
It is universal. Most religions or mythologies got some aspects right, many things in nordic or greek mythology or old south american/hindu spiritual systems are just early attempts of humans to develop a system of demonology. Sure, the God in human form that delivered an important piece of the puzzle, Jesus, was genetically jewish and thus used lots of established jewish explanations to get his point across but he didn't spawn into the roman empire for no reason. He was born there and during that time precisely because the roman empire spanned vast territory that was fertile ground and people capable of understanding what he came to teach. Jesus is important because of his divinity, not because of his jewisness and he probably had jewish genetics precisely as a filter for those that can't uncouple someone's character from their genes. Those aren't ready to follow what he teaches yet anyways, they are still on their way there.
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>>543056077
The Carthaginians sacrificed children without a doubt but the extent must have been vastly overstated by the Romans, their mortal enemies. It doesn't make sense for the other powers of the Med, such as Egypt, to not have mentioned the same devilish customs, and it doesn't make sense that the Carthaginians closest of kin, Canaanites of cities like Byblos, Gaza or Tyre, were not known for child sacrifice in the same way.
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sure sure
>anyway
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>>543055338
>The Jews tried to genocide it


Hmm what?

>>543057407

We're canaanites
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>>543057709
Glass house
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>>543058359
>Worships god
>Can't even say his name

Just call him by his demon names
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>>543058688
Why did you rewrite the old testament to remove things about the messiah
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>>543074143
Your anger doesn't hold any sway.
Why is it only the Romans who said Carthage slaughtered all of its children in such a way?
Do you believe in the Holocaust too?
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To maintain power, you must constantly create a new generation of ambitious and ruthless individuals. This can occur naturally, as with psychopaths, but you don't want to simply rely on chance that your heir will be a psychopath, so through trial and error, elite families found a way to artificially create such individuals. (They still headhunt psychopaths from the general masses to serve as a minions and functionaries).
Ambition is the mental mechanism by which you compensate for deep seated psychological inadequacy. Such inadequacy is generated by trauma in childhood. Trauma can be either chronic and acute.
Chronic trauma is generated in elite offspring via detachment from parental figures, lack of care and lack of love (eg, boarding school). Chronic trauma is generated through acts of evil like murder, rape and torture, in which the child is forced to participate.
The process was give the aesthetic veneer of religion and ritual.

In recent times, the elite applied the scientific method to their ancient traditions, in order to make the process even more effective. That was the MKULTRA program.
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>>543074338
>Chronic trauma is generated through acts of evil like murder, rape and torture, in which the child is forced to participate.
Acute* trauma is generated through acts of evil like murder, rape and torture, in which the child is forced to participate.
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>>543059167
Ohhh it's Matthew, wassup Matthew .

Btw there's a talk of a son Leviticus 19–20
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>>543060381
Askhanazi Jews don't predate the 12th century,they descendent from canaanites and radhanites
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>>543074404
Post book of esther
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>>543074478
And Jeremiah
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>>543055469
Government is a crime, it just makes sense it is all held together by the worst crime imaginable
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>>543068833
I think you conveyed the point pretty well overall. Thank you.
There is no easier way to explain this but referring to sin and an unwillingness to heal from your affliction(s).
Demonic possession is perhaps a trope way of explaining why they're exactly 'not human' in perception of themselves, thinking themselves as superior, or whatever, really. Physiognomy is real, however. You can spot a sinner, very often. Or just feel how they're off, somehow.

But they do not want to heal. They're exactly as you put it addicted to power. It is the most corrupting force in the universe. Having power, however it overtakes you.

>true detective s1 first timer in 2026
Wow, that late? I've had several movies delisted from my to-watch list out of pure indifference now, like I've never seen the Godfather because it's just become too irrelevant in this timeline.
Mainstream, American, media really has an air of normalization of evil in it but I don't find it as much in true detective s1. Except perhaps the fact that it is so easily skipped over that they couldn't catch "all of them" and that "isn't that kind of world we live in", but I regress it was a bomb of a mainstream accepted achievement showcasing evil in such a way. They had a few good stereotypes to work with.
I might have a binge to see a few episodes of the hannibal series again even though it's very trope as well.

What we really need is a series with the perfect villain who repents completely. A Palpatine or a Paulus. That's true justice.
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>>543071877
Jews love to discuss Jesus as Jewish for the most unending list of reasons. It all boils down to be able to project as far I can tell.
We have so many classes of Jews it's trifle and they're very upset if you don't get their bloodline down to any kind of detail. It's not important.

What is important to understand anyone needs to confront their Ego, like you put it and not stroking other's too. Offering temptation.

>early attempts of humans to develop a system of demonology
Insightful. I think you're right about that actually. A lot of it seems not to teach about love and spirituality, or God, in the least, if you take the point of not having 'other Gods' to the fullest.
I just think that phrase in the Bible to be about not, basically, worshipping idolatry like Baal and Moloch and in the basic sense just about Materialism. Cows don't need fucking reverence. Cults need. People wanting power wants it. To look at the stupid goyim.
And the point about Jesus being Jewish is that every last standing person can, like St Francis put it, let God work through them. No matter what kind of unholy practice you have turned to and been part of. We can all let our creator's will be done through us, if we accept His/her/Its love. It is that's simple.

Just gonna throw this in lastly. The best way to explain what the Devil is, is it's Gods lowest servant.
Because as you said. You can't take away God from anything. It has been a most helpful phrase for me on my path. Though I had to share. Peace, bro
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>>543075300
*thought



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