Is the male loneliness epidemic real or not?
>>543066401Yes.
>>543066401>PersonalityBe honest on which gender demands and nags more.
>>543066401>Personality Meanwhile in reality
>>543066546>>543066401>Personality
It's not real. Mean should not be lonely. They should strive for more alone time and solitude. How they spend that time is their own business (reading, working out, vidya, watching tv/movies, etc). You don't need a wife, gf, friend, family or pet. All you need is you.
>>543066401This generation is too self aware and cringe averse. Older millennials did all kinds of cringe shit, they started being called out by younger generations and flamed for it.Even church retards that used to marry at 20 can't get a wife nowadays. They will find a cute girl, talk to her but it never clicks because both are aware of cringe and if their personalities don't match perfectly those awkward moments that ensue will completely ruin any chance.
>>543066647That doesn't solve men's need to fuck. Even women can't control their sexual impulses so much so that one out four American women will get an abortion.
>>543066401>Women set the bar higher and higher while providing even less than before>suprised that men are no longer willing to participate in a rigged gameWew wench, who would have thought.20-50 years ago a guy only needed to be a decent looking, non-alcoholic with any kind of job to get a normal woman who would take care of the house and help him in general.Nowdays you need to be a magazine-cover-jacked 6-figure making chad that is somehow also a free psychotherapist, to get a 4/10 roastie fresh out of cock carousel who just sits around and demands a princess treatment.It's grim.
>>543066716>That doesn't solve men's need to fuckMasturbate. Onahole. If absolutely necessary get a prostitute.
Women nowadays are performing eugenics against ND men, which didn't happen in the past. If Clavicular wasn't famous, despite being tall and attractive he would have a hell of a time trying to maintain any relationship with anyone considering how ND he is.He couldn't even make it as a frat dudebro they would kick him out for his autism
>>543066401It’s not like women have personality that extends beyond what they see on their phones.ANONS, TO PREVENT INTENSE DEMORALIZATION YOU LITERALLT HAVE TO VIEW WOMEN AS MENTAL CHILDREN AND TAKE THEIR WORDS JUST AS SERIOUSLY AS YOU WOULD A CHILDS!!Love women, but never ask for their opinion.
>>543066784Its honestly like shooting fish in a barrel banging hoes as a ND chad. You just have to aim way, way, way down Which honestly isn't bad you discover the sleeper picks
If you are ND it's over this obsession with looks and height is ND cope. Normies can tell immediately when you are ND and immediately start treating you like a child and disrespecting you good luck making friends when you are at the bottom of the hierarchy everywhere you go
>>543066401The feminist regime creates a crisis to use it as an excuse to do what it actually wants and that just creates another crisis. It also never stops dissimulating.
>>543066401not in the context women care aboutthe articles aren't about incels, nobody cares about them. The real male loneliness epidemic.the articles are about the men women want, but who stopped showing up. That's a facade for the female loneliness epidemic.
>>543066401it's real, and the numbers clearly show women are dating the same small portion of men while the majority of men don't date. as you can see here >>543066546 , women are far more shallow than men and can't be trusted to marry down the economic ladder even if women have a breadwinning salary
>>543066546>>543066590>>543066936this is a good assessment
>>543066883That's cope. Its a spectrum and being able to blend in with Normies and blab about random bullshit to fit in or stand out as necessary is an acquired skill
>>543066401It’s fake
>>543066658Millennials were fooled and trolled the hardest. Basically every advice we were given was bullshit.
>>543066910TRUEnice use of the word dissimulating. had to look that one up.
>>543066937Women simply want out of the job market, they realized it's boring as fuck and that their mothers/grandmas were good liars since being a tradwife was the comfiest job in the world
If you get a new job as ND you'll be placed at the bottom of the hierarchy in the first day, that will be the rest of your life if you stay there. Good luck getting a gf from the bottom your looks need to be model tier.>>543066966No it isn't and you're not ND if that's the case for you. So piss off you might be able to understand but you won't be able to fill the time with constant conversation that doesn't seem forced. And awkward silence makes normalfags seethe inside they have an aversion to it.
>>543066401not real. NEXT THREAD!
>>543066990For some reason people in Spanish speaking countries use that word all the time and its never used in english. Its not that rare of a word btw
>>543066401Western liberal women are fat abhorrent psycho retards who publicly support a triple child murderer, and they think it’s them selecting men for personality or any other trait? These mongrel hordes of subhuman cunts should be thankful to be even allowed to breathe.
>>543067041maybe if you're some kind of non functioning retard. You learn the bullshitting social skills by being uncomfortable yet pushing through. Ideally in middle or high school when hierarchies start to form
>>543066401I've only ever seen women talking about the "male loneliness epidemic". Haven't seen a single guy complain about it.
>>543067107Not ND, piss off retard. Social skills aren't skills you can learn like playing the piano you either have them or you don't, you can observe other people but if it doesn't come naturally and you have to force it then you already lost. Normals don't force it, they don't think "what should I do next, what should I say next" they just do small talk and it flows naturally.
>>543066401Fake problem. Entire multi-billion dollar industries are literally built around exploiting men's weakness against the lesser gender of humanity, and they're looking over the cliff and realizing the men are waking up to the parasites feeds off of them.You'll know it's a fake problem because all they ever interview are foids and young men who don't know any better. Most men in their 30's either submitted to the system for a chance at fatherhood or quit the system already.Invest in pharmaceutical companies, mental health companies, pet food and retarded pet accessory companies, there's a tsunami of spinsters coming.
How could she get that? The article looks at the way culture treats men as subhuman performing animals, then goes on to indicate that it ensure once you're alone, you're alone forever because the way society works means you're not getting a chance to do anything else.But it also makes it a class thing, stating that below a certain threshold it's even harder to get out - impossible in fact. Not just romantically. It does spend a while yelling at men to stop complaining.. by using female written articles as examples. 'We can fix the loneliness crisis.. by being rich and making it more about women.'
Sex can be bought from a prostitute.Anyway, good luck finding a good husband.
>>543067275I agree that the loneliness aspect is overblown as most ND losers who can't even make a friend end up living with their parents with 0 privacy whatsoever.But the single men epidemic is real and it will only get worse, due to everyone being extremely cringe averse which means strangers connecting is extremely hard because talking to strangers is cringe by default.I know church fags who 15 years ago would've been married at the age of 20 who couldn't find a wife by 30 and probably never will despite plenty of women in their community, it just doesn't click like it used to, people used to form pairs quite easily back in the day.
Church fags are going to get fucked the hardest. Historically they used to get paired with girls from their church and if there were fewer women the guys left out could find one at a nearby church with female surplus. Nowadays they're fucked, if there are 2-3 girls left unmarried but none of them want you because they think you are awkward you're done for.These people have no chance in the outside world what woman wants an awkward 30 yo virgin who never drank, smoked, partied, went to a club etc. who also has a tendency to only talk about God. Insanity, I'm expecting an actual epidemic of single losers.
I'm talking about tight nit European Protestant churches not American LGBT fags.Orthodogs and Cucktholics don't apply because they go to church like it's a mall, no community whatsoever just a bunch of strangers you see on Sunday.
I've never felt "lonely" in my life lol. 40 years old and can think of nothing better than a nice walk in the countryside on my own - it's regenerative for the mind.Perhaps this is different for those that require constant attention, but I doubt this is the majority of men.
>>543066401>purely by their personalitiesThat's too reductive
>>543067107Normgroids think you're some kind of skinwalker or mental retard if you're even a tenth of a second off in eye contact, if you don't speak with just the right inflection, if you don't gesticulate in just the right way that pleases their normie brains. They're so fine tuned to one another that if you deviate even just a tiny bit then they notice it. It's actually better to not even try to hide it, to just stop giving a shit, because that's the difference between them thinking "hmmm this person is just slightly off socially" and them seeing you as an uncanny valley creature who's pretending to be a human.
>>543068148Purely by their personality ONLY if they meet her looks/height/wealth/social life/status requirements kek
>>543068173Being slightly off or ignoring it completely has the exact effect. You will subconsciously be labeled as the manchild retard, maladjusted social pariah and treated accordigly.
>>543066401>Women are choosing to remain singleNonsense. I am never leaving the house, except once a week for 45 minutes to buy groceries. She can't possibly judge my personality, we we never meet.
>actually ur meanDie a prostitute, broke and diseased
From my experience if you are autistic it's better to literally remain silent or fake mutism. Trying to talk to them at work is pointless you won't get respected and the more comfortable they are around you the more likely to get flamed.Just don't talk to them avoid them if possible don't even ask for advice it's better to fuck up than to ask normgroids for advice.
>>543066401based on personality?! bitch, you need to TALK and CONVERSATE with someone to know their personality.
>>543066936These men literally don't exist. Girls want a tall, fit guy who also happens to be making 1.5-2x average income who also has his own place and a nice car at 25-30 years old. That's already fishing in the top 1% of male population. While these women look average, work as a barista part time and bring a ton of student debt from their sociology major. Even other women acknowledge these types, its fked lol.
>>543068658These guys exist but they're just as neurotic as women and drop them at the drop of a hat for any reason at all and no reason sometimes. The smart ones lay back and collect evidence to throw them back to the streets without being the bad guy in the end Last thing they will do is oofy doofy dormat for woman unless a true 10/10
>>543068489This has been my case so far; I have both the looks and the physique, where I have women actively approach me and have interest in me since I was an early teenager, but the more I have interacted with them, spoke to them, the less interested they'd become. Officially its aspergers, but I think it could also be related to my parents being present in my life, but having no relationship whatsoever between each other, so there was no point of reference growing up.I do not know what it precisely is, because I do not even have any ticks.
Sex sellsProbs match group pushing it all online to get people to pay for tinder subsBut as with everything, people start taking it seriously. But it will be great for men to learn some women will use and manipulate them while we bring the cost of living crisis down so people can have more children.
>>543067169Probably because if you complain about something like that you're seen as a faggot. I haven't seen one of my "closest" (only local) friends in 4+ months at this point, and he's only about half an hour away from me. I'm a social pariah among his friends from getting too rowdy while drinking a literal decade ago, so I don't get invited to shit. People like you or they don't, but ultimately as a man you just get used to it.I'm too old to really care anyway. "Friendships" are mostly networking and acquaintances it seems like. All I'm concerned with now is finding the right woman and settling down and starting a family. The problem is that gets harder and harder with every given year. Turning 30 was depressing, and it only gets worse.
>>543066936>the articles are about the men women want, but who stopped showing up. That's some mind blowing cope for the fact the men those women wanted either don't fucking exist at all, or exist in such a small percentage of the population that it's physically impossible for them to get those men. The math has been done, the majority of millenial and zoomer women are chasing a caliber of man that simply doesn't exist, built upon all the best traits and features of all the best men they slept with throughout their lives. >chad has a ferrari>jake has a 13 inch monster can cock>Tyrone can get her into a recording studio>Paul buys her and her girls bottle service at the club>Tyson is a dealer who gets her the fun party drugs she wants>Jeff owns two BMW's and a Porsche>Tim makes 7 figures>Jason is a 7 foot tall chad>brad is 6'9 and owns a business.>Brent is an investment banker>Michael is a doctor>Trevor takes her to all her favourite raves and festivals>plus all the traits of all the celebrity crushes she hasI grew up with millenial women, every single last one of them spent their pre-teens and teenage years harbouring celebrity crushes while having boyfriends. They clung to the hopes of those celebrity crushes to the point of delusion.
>>543068658Women look at hentai more than men. Women have more bots on LLM sex sites than men. They're coomers. Look up "supernormal stimulus". Their brains are completely fried. But they're fucking insane on top of that, so instead of thinking "OH NO, I'm a fucking brain fried coomer", they think "men are failing me by not being an unreal anime-tier gigachad, it's the chopped man epidemic". The ultimate blackpill truth is that the modern woman is a deranged coombrain.
>>543066401I can either view women the same way she views men (which is illegal in germany).> Now that men are breaking free from state controlled media, they realise they have been getting enslaved to serve women for the majority of history. When women call out men, they only focus on comparing women's lifes to the lifes of elites in the past. They never compare themselves to miners.I can also respond by responding the same way she would respond if men would say stuff like this about men.> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE> Incels> Ban them> Arrest them> Categorise them as extremist> Target any company that doesn't actively oppose them> Target any political entity that doesn't actively oppose them> Categorise as extremist> Claim they are not valuavle to society when also clearly openly targetted by hate groups (authoritties).
>>543067169that's because men don't complain, they evaluate and discusswomen are the harpies that won't shut up about some perceived injustice or slight, no matter how smallmen just shrug and become more and more withdrawn
>>543066401women really dont care about personality at all.then again to them personality is being 6'3 and making 560k a year lol.
>personality
>>543066401>women bad>women really bad>women super bad :'(((Yeah okay, got it, well and good.How do you handle them though?Since they are fundamentally illogical creatures, there should be a way to actually deal with them.
>>543066401Said the gender only appreciated for its appearance and otherwise avoided.