>>543086239TLDR: Christians worship the God of the Jews
>>543086239>>543086310>TLDR: AMERICAN """Christians""" worship the God of the Jews
all christcucks and muslims (all abrahamocucks) worship the imaginary kike god yahweh.
They worship an entity that is canonically Jewish and has They pronouns (the holy trinity)
>>543086239very true about the psychologyit is human nature to respect the traditions of your family and ancestorsbut when those traditions contain the poison of a foreign-manipulated religion, it is toughand the European traditions were crushed, erased and suppressed, so we can't really reconstruct and go back to those eitherwe need spirituality, and the only really good way is to borrow from the reincarnation religions
>>543086239Just don't be religious OP, you don't have to dump on peoples faith just because you cannot find faith. Its like dumping on Lord of the Rings fan because you discovered JRR Tolkien was Catholic. I just let people enjoy the movies and books. The TV Show is like Mormons.
>>543086239You know very well that you're lying.https://odysee.com/@ODIOUS:7/De-la-question-juive-Abb%C3%A9-Rioult:8
>>543086239>>543086310Jesus practiced the religion of the Old Testament. Rabbinical/talmudic judaism began after Jesus died. It came from pharisaism which was the opposite of the true believers of the Tanakh like Jesus and His disciples. Pharisaism was based on the mesorah(oral talmud). After the destruction of the 2nd temple in 70 A.D. only pharisaism existed and evolved into modern judaism. Jesus called pharisees and sadducees the children of the devil and the pharisees hated and crucified Him. To equate him to modern pharisaic judaism is not only insanely inaccurate but historically illiterate. Rabbi means teacher or master. It became an official clerical title in the 2nd century A.D. This isn't some clever argument or incredible "gotcha moment". You're pathetic, historically completely illiterate, and profoundly moronic.
>>543086796The traditions of child sacrifice and hallucinogenic fungus orgies.
>>543086239sorry but WE WAZ THE REAL PENIS MUTILATORS not those fake modern """jews"""
>only one religion is worthy of /pol/ shill attacksAnons do you understand why?Only anti christian rhetoric is boosted on all platforms, including this one. Glowniggers hate christianityJews hate christianityGlobohomo hates christianityChrist is King
>>543086239>>543086310>Before Abraham was, I amrekt
>>543086239your image is a lot of words saying nothing.
>>543086239What is supersessionism? Try to wrap that so-called red pill in a bit of cheese next time. Some of us are too smart to swallow it.
>>543087057Exactly. These "Jesus was a Jew" posters are either ignorant or liars. Save this post to reply to them.
>>543087057>Jesus practiced the religion of the Old Testamentwhich has been called judaism by everyone since the Hellenistic period>>543087400the irony with you e-christians is something indescribable, batshit hilarious
Greatness can arise from poisonous surroundings.
>>543087057Jesus is the high priest of the order of Malchizidek. The jews do not dare to make the same claim. To all you lurkers out there, this is NOT the same faith. Do not believe liars who tell you that Christianity is jewish in origin. The order of Malchizidek predates even the existence of Israel itself, let alone Judah, let alone talmidic Judaism.Kikes are name stealing thieves just like their kazharian ancestors
>>543087537These sort of polemics have been unsuccessfully spammed since day one, they were quite popular with Scythians, can't you come up with new ones? >2:4 Anyone who is willing to make an impartial investigation can see, from the very object of it, that the holy catholic church is the beginning of everything. Adam, the man who was formed at the first, was not formed with a body circumcised, but uncircumcised. He was no idolater, and he knew the Father as God, and the Son and Holy Spirit, for he was a prophet.>2:5 Without circumcision he was no Jew and since he did not worship carved images or anything else, he was no idolater. For Adam was a prophet, and knew that the Father had said to the Son, "Let us make man in our image". What was he, then, since he was neither circumcised nor an idolater—except that he exhibited the character of Christianity? - St. Epiphanius
>>543087537Was it called Judaism when Israel didn't even exist? Christ is the high priest of the order of Malchizidek that even Abraham admitted is greater than his Hebrew faith
>let me reinterpret what christianity is about on my terms>heh I winabsolute state
Anti Christianity ops are designed to keep you isolated and without a support community. They are designed to deny you dignity or hope or peace. Hence the neo Gnosticism LARP. They blame Christianity for the Enlightenment and democracy. For their inability to openly own slaves and abuse them as they see fit and to crush revolt and dissent with summary death sentences
>>543086239Yes, the Jews were the remnant of the Hebrews, and they like their ancestors denied God time and time again, worshipped idols, and were unkind and unmerciful to travelers and neighbors despite explicitly being commanded by GOD otherwise. A very small number through each generation were faithful, though, and for their sake the Lord did not obliterate them, but rather from our of them, out of the Jews, our of their failure, there came a pure young woman of perfect humility and obedience to God, named Mary in English, and out of her, the Lord incarnated as a real human being, a God-Man, and this God in humility and service to mankind conquered death itself. Yes, our salvation is from the Jews. The King was always meant to be the King of all. But the first will be last, and the last first - the Jews are preserved in their rejection of Christ so that every opportunity for repentance is available to them, and us. OP and those who think like that, your line of reasoning is not the pwn you think it is. Seek the truth for a change.
>>543087817Liars gonna lie. They can't help themselves. Out of an abundance of the heart the mouth speaks
>>543087905>let me reinterpret what christianity is about on my terms>you dont agree with me? heh you liar
>>543088064Im agreeing with you you autistic kraut. Hence the quoting of scripture to make my point....the absolute state
>>543088127mb, /pol/ has conditioned me that every poster that replies is anti christian.
>>543088223It's all good, brother. This place puts me on a hair trigger a lot too lol
>>543086239This post most likely buckbroke pagans who pretended to be Christian, sure, but there is no separating Yahweh from His Elect, the Christians.Hope this helps, fellow neighbor.
>>543086652Incorrect, Muslims are pagan, only Christians are Abrahamic.Hope this helps, fellow neighbor.
>>543086239Adam Green is single and childless isn't he? No way a women would like a guy who sits all day.
>>543087657Thank you for this post, friend.
>>543087737>polemicsyou can cope as much as you want it won't change exonyms and how the word jew has been used to describe the entirety of that ethno-religious muck including early christians who were completely considered jews by Romans(i.e that quote in Suoetonius about the expulsion of jews becaus they were making ruckus in Rome "christo imperante")>>543087788no, that's why I said since the Hellenistic period which you probably think is a type of hamburger; the word "jew" is an exonym, it's how gentiles have called the penis mutilating semitic gypsies of judaea since the Greeks started talking about them, Romans took the term, so did christians when it comes to ethnicity
>>543087876needing to be adopted into some deathcult for any semblance of brotherhood is that exact thing that has been causing whites to slowly get isolated and cutoff from their roots over the centuries
>>543086239The cognitive dissonance of Christian anons is peak comedy: They're literally worshipping a Jewish rabbi as God, following Jewish prophets, reading Jewish holy books, praying to the Jewish god of Abraham, claiming salvation through Jewish bloodlines... while somehow convincing /pol/ to rageagainst Jewish influence.The mental gymnastics are incredible - these Christians have convinced themselves they're "based traditionalists" while their entire religion is built on Jewish tradition. They pray to a Jew for salvation while typing out /pol/ screeds against Jewish influence. They quote the Torah (while calling it the Old Testament) in one post, then spread medieval antisemitic propaganda in the next.They've managed to infect the board with their theological schizophrenia - getting lonely anons to fight their ancient religious battles while being completely blind to the fact their whole belief system is Jewish to its core. They're so deep in their own programming they can't even see the hilarious contradiction: claiming spiritual supremacy through literal Jewish supremacy (chosen people, Jewish messiah, Jewish scriptures).It's the ultimate mindfuck - they've got you all carrying water in a 2000-year-old religious conflict while being completely oblivious to how thoroughly Jewish their own Christian worldview is. Pure uncut weapons-grade cognitive dissonance.
>>543089052Incorrect, Christianity leads to eternal life whereas anti-Christianity (your religion) leads to eternal death.Hope this helps, fellow neighbor.
>>543087876your "christianity" exists only online, your "community" is discord, you'd get kicked out of any IRL christian community with more than a dozen members for your ideas, your cristianity is a product of aesthetics and videogames but you are 150% convinced you are part of a billion members religion that agrees with your views
>>543086239/pol/ doesn't has any real christcucks, just gay LARPers trying to one-up each other to see who's the most "based", that's why you often see dipshits trying to pretend they are "trad and Orthodox" when LARPers pretending to be "trad and Cath" show up. None of it is real.
>>543089348>real christcucksthey disappeared a long time agoit's all purely performative now
>>543089195Incorrect, as Rabbinic Talmudism (a core denomination of anti-Christianity) has fought against Christ and His elect for millennia.All anti-Christians are twisted into the image of these Talmudic rabbis and so you are their spiritual brothers.Hope this helps, fellow neighbor.>>543089240Incorrect, as Christ(ianity) is mainly known through illumination of the Holy Bible from the Holy Spirit.The majority of nominal Christians belong to the anti-Christian camp as they are not Christian. Those are your spiritual brothers and sisters.Hope this helps, fellow neighbor.>>543089348While Christians are indeed a minority, we certainly do exist.Hope this helps, fellow neighbor
>>543086239I think a lot of anons are either misunderstanding, or over-valuing the Jewish foundations which not only created Christianity, but also gave it authority.Most of western civilization bases its government on systems devised by the ancient Greeks; but that doesn't say that these western societies view the ancient Greeks as either superior or even as an unmovable check on their behavior. It is an intellectually unavoidable fact that the first Christians not only viewed themselves as a Jewish splinter group; but that their claims of authority were based on traditional Jewish texts.For example, why is Jesus the Messiah? Because he fit the criteria set forth hundreds of years earlier in Jewish texts. Why does Jesus have the authority to create moral law and pass judgement? Because these powers were granted to the Messiah.I would argue that the story of Jesus can also occasionally be viewed this way:> Jewish texts lay out complex series of rules required for individuals to align themselves with God> Same texts also lay out a specific series of characteristics of the Messiah; while also granting the Messiah plenary power to make moral laws> Jesus, being an expert on the Jewish texts, finds the loophole/technicality in the complex system> He goes about specifically fulfilling all of the requirements to be Messiah> Once he does, and becomes Messiah, he changes the rules> Instead of the complex series of sacrifices and actions to win salvation, all you have to do is askThere are several cases in the Bible where Jesus does certain things specifically for the purpose of fulfilling the required prophecies.
>>543089464Incorrect, the Church continues to grow, more are saved by God with each new day, fellow neighbor.
>>543089564>The majority of nominal Christians belong to the anti-Christian camp as they are not Christian.as I said, perfect, you are a literal walking parody>my perfect platonic True Christianity™ that exists in my head is da True religion™
>>543086239If you were to sit a jew and a christian down beside each other. And ask the question>what happened after christ's deathWhat would be the responses?
>>543089006Because early Christians were in fact ethnically Jewish in their majority and practiced Jewish practices such as circumcision, dietary rules, Sabbath observance, festivals and whatnot. However the problem became urgent when large numbers of other people began accepting Christianity, which lead to the well known controversy between Peter and Paul who argued over which religious Jewish customs should Christians be subjected to. Paul vehemently disagreed. Eventually Paul prevailed, arguing that we become members of God's people through Christ and not through Judaism. Because ultimately, the teachings of Jesus were full of supersessionist arguments, i.e "Before Abraham was, i am".
>>543089564christcucks like this turned the other cheek in 109 countries
>>543089660*Paul vehemently disagreed with Christians having to follow Jewish customs.
>>543087145>>only one religion is worthy of /pol/ shill attacksYa we totally never shit on kikes and mudslimes here, you fucking retard. In reality, Christkikery is the only form of kikery with a rabid defense force here.
>>543089627whatever helps you sleep at night
>>543089627delusional. only christians that remain are those at mount athos and other various monasteries. everything else is larp.
>>543086239A lot of that is very true. But he is missing a critical point, that maybe the said cognitive rupture and dissonance is fake to begin with. That all of these christcuck spammers who are so desperately trying to convince you that christianity is based or antisemitic or whatever, are actually neither based nor antisemitic themselves.People take a lot of the shit they see on the internet at face value like an autist who can only think literally and doesn't have that much of a theory of mind for those around him. This happens with almost everything when it comes to politics. It is inconceivable to most that the text that you just read of a guy expressing his support or opposition to someone or something, may be a part of a propaganda piece that is written to mislead you into thinking that such a support or opposition even existed in that camp.
>>543086239Even suggesting that Christianity is a Jewish religion belies a gross ignorance of its doctrines. It says, "I'm intellectually lazy and incurious. My impressions are formed on glib and superficial assessments. I am unable to think in any meaningful sense." Christianity is a decidedly anti Jewish religion. It is easily the most anti Jewish of all religions. It is in fact the antithesis of Jewry. And not coincidentally, this is why Jews hate it. But thanks for your input, Abdul. What was village life like in Algeria? Do you ever miss it?
>>543089564You're not a real christcuck, you're an even lamer LARPer who is gayer than the "Orthobros" because you're trying to LARP as Ned Flanders lmao
>>543089829monasticism was never christian.I have yet to hear one good thing coming from mount athos.
>>543089657Neighbor, Christians are those individuals who are marked & sealed with the Holy Spirit.Do look into Matthew 7:13-14 and Matthew 15:8Hope this helps, fellow neighbor.>>543089659The Talmudist rabbi would say that He is burning in a pot of excrement in Hell, and the anti-Christians would love this answer.It is unfortunate that anti-Christians do not realize that they are programmed by the Zionists to be their cannon fodder against Christ.As for the Christian, we understand that he is reigning in Heaven at the right hand of Yahweh the Father.>>543089741anti-Christians love the Talmudic Rabbis and will let them back in every time.>>543089794Feel better soon, fellow neighbor.>>543089829Christians are those who have the Holy Spirit, where you are located in the world doesn't matter.>>543089983Feel better soon, fellow neighbor. It isn't good to fill your heart with poison.
>>543086310Wrong. Christians worship Christ, Whom the jew reviled.
>>543089627based! my born again virgin wife fucked 67 tire black niggers before she was saved by Christ
>>543090151kike is king
>>543090161I'm happy for you, fellow neighbor. Do treat her well and hopefully you will be saved by Christ as well.
>>543089890The propaganda are all the depersonalisation psyops (from the same source) designed to turn people to extremism as a sort of survival mechanism, paired with a broken political system that can't escape the vicious cycle.And Christianity is their mortal enemy because our identity isn't anchored to worldly narratives, our personhood or hypostasis is part of our trinitarian nature, they can't depersonalise us, make us desperate and lure us into black and white narratives.
>>543090200Anti-Christians hate Him and so this image is a lie. It is not good to lie, fellow neighbor.
>>543090294Indeed, while anti-Christians jump from lie to lie to lie, the Christian is anchored to the Eternal Truth that is Yahweh.
>>543089660fine, that's perfectly in line with reality, but you have to tell that to the whole "christ wasn't a jew but a rare hyperbolic tropical hypergalilean" crowd that spams this place because, per OP, they have severe inability to cope with their religion originating in a specific sect of hellenized ancient jews
>>543090294You have already depersonalized yourself and your genetic imperative by substituting it with your religion's universalism, or by thinking that your actual real personhood on Earth is a temporary test that shouldn't be taken too seriously because the second personhood awaits for an eternity up there. You have already debased reality around you as a mortal materialism of inferior wordly narratives, such as for an example race and genes.
>only 30% of global population is christian>that 30% can't agree on the same version of christianity>a new version fell out of a hat 200 years agowhat a joke of a religion.
>>543087057>Old Testament This Old Testament? oh you mean the Torah.>For the LORD your God will bless you as he has promised, and you will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. You will rule over many nations but none will rule over you.Deuteronomy 15:6>When the LORD your God gives you rest from all the enemies around you in the land he is giving you to possess as an inheritance, you shall blot out the name of Amalek from under heaven. Do not forget!Deuteronomy 25:19>Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.Deuteronomy 19:21>Then God said to Abraham, 'As for you, you must keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come. This is My covenant with you and your descendants after you, which you are to keep: Every male among you must be circumcised. You are to circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and this will be the sign of the covenant between Me and you. He who is eight days old among you must be circumcised, every male throughout your generations, whether born in your house or bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring. Both he who is born in your house and he who is bought with your money must be circumcised. So My covenant will be in your flesh as an everlasting covenant. Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.'"Genesis 17:9-14> And Joshua made him sharp knives, and circumcised the children of Israel at the hill of the foreskins.Joshua 5:3
>>543089793>hurr durrPretends to not understandKChrist is KingGo put jews and mudslimes on blast on any other social media platform
>>543086239Every anti-Christian has mommy/daddy issues. I never grew up Christian/Catholic and yet every one of these people are like "I grew up being forced to go to church so I know..." Forget about it being about preserving whatever it is as a child, you guys need to get over the fact you no longer are forced to go if you don't want to. I'm sorry dad made you go to Sunday school, now grow up.
>>543090498>You have already debased reality around you as a mortal materialism of inferior wordly narrativesIncorrect, we have greater understanding and appreciation of Creation due to knowing Yahweh. Christians are already alive in the Kingdom of Heaven right now after all.It is true however that all other narratives are simply fruitless deceptions that lead to ever-growing imperfect understanding of Creation and hatred of it, culminating in eternal death.Hope this helps, fellow neighbor.>>543090638You are referring to Mormonism which descends from Freemasonry and is anti-Christ in nature?That is not Christianity, hope this helps, fellow neighbor.
>>543086239Zionism is a sin in the Catholic Church, the true Israel. I just returned from Rome where I listened to a little Italian priest rant about the bloodthirsty jew during his homily. Stay mad
>>543090498My personhood, such as my name, my ethnicity, my distinct character, that is my entire image, are no longer based on ephemeral worldly narratives, and aren't in the hands of randoms. They can threaten, pysop, hurt me, kill me, but all that are futile because death has been defeated, they won't get their way by threatening me with death, still not taking the jab.
>>543090865>no true scotsman it's just as valid a fairy tale as the other fairy jew tales.
I will be moving on now. Good luck brothers in Christ. Continue to fight the Good Fight.
>>543089657>my perfect platonic True Christianity™ that exists in my head is da True religion™Orthodox Christianity is not platonic, and there's hundreds of millions of us.
>>543091047Yes, there are an infinite number of anti-Christian denominations. Anti-Christians happily jump from lie to lie to lie.There is only one Truth however, and that is found in Yahweh.Hope this helps, fellow neighbor.
>>543086239Anyone who tries to apply cuck is automatically a gay dicking faggot so I'll stop (you) right here and that's all the dignity you deserve
>>543087400Can’t wait for to hear your copes and lies for direct scripture quotes. Is this what happens when you circumcise your heart?>After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem. and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”Mathew 2:2>And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to Him, “Rabbi where are You staying?”John 1:38>Peter *said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; let us make three tabernacles, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”Mark 9:5>And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb."Luke 2:21>The Samaritan woman said to Jesus, You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.)John 4:9>I have spoken openly to the world,” Jesus replied. “I always taught in synagogues or at the temple, where all the Jews come together. I said nothing in secret.John 18:20>For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.Romans 15:27
>>543087090>muh child sacrifice >christian priests rape&abuse boys>children's crusadeChristcuck projection.
>>543086239This is why I cant be a christian or a conservative, burgerbro is entirely correct
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>>543087817>you can only criticize christianity if you are christcuck yourselfAbsolute state of christian clowns.
>>543086239Deep down you know you're going to hell because you can't change. You're upset, angry and envious of those who can. Simple as that. CHRIST IS KING.
>>543091192>muh truthtruth spawns truth, not more lies, which is all your abrahamic nonsense is.
You don't understand, this religion that was created in the Middle East and didn't exist in Europe until nearly a thousand years after the Romans invented indoor plumbing is what European identity is founded on!
>>543086239It's just wrong though. It means something to you, but not to the Christians. I get them. I am an open-minded agnostic person with no particular upbringing or bias. The way it looks to me is that Christ is adversarial to the kikes. Yeah he is born to jews and it takes place in jewland, but that is how you as God incarnate to reach and interact with the jews and fulfill that role he is suppised to be fulfilling. Bible shows in great detail how kikes are wrong and bad in the eyes of god, at the time of Christ and even before. And when you assess the implication of that the jews who became christians were "saved" (from being kikes essentially lol) and that the hews who remained jews (that is who the hews of today ARE), I mean it is pretty clearly NOT in support of them but in opposition. Such opposution, infact, it would make a kike crucify you. Also, something interesting to cobsider is that Jesus Christ, or whatever his name really was, was meabt to showcase his divinity by overcoming not just death but the chains of the world (miracles) and the desires of flesh (aescetic, chaste, humble, fasting for 40 days, etc). Now consider that if Jesus was just some white guy, big whoop probably some hippee seen it before. But a jew? A humble, chaste, generous, aescetic, JEW? Divinity is the the only explanation, because that flesh is incurable by the inhabitation of the spirit of a man.
>>543091716You know who he is king of? It’s say so in the scripture read it let it soak into your brain>After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem. and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”Mathew 2:2
>>543086239>judaism is le original>they were all jews back then yeah even the galileans and gauls dude>wall of argumentum ad ignorantium fallaciesI love how banana busters are so desperately btfo in the mainstream sociall media all they can do is come here make up some shit out of their prolapsed asses and try consensus cracking using fallacies and anecdotal lies and hope with their fingers crossed that no anons that know how to check archives or does research will disrupt their pantifa rallies they spam here kek.OP is a faggot as usual
>>543091599>he thinks he can understand the bible without the Holy Spiritdelusional
>>543091716>Creator of the universe will torture you forever unless you worship this iron age jewish rabbiHow is this not a mental illness? I wish just for a minute christians would hear how insane they sound from a non christian POV
>>543086239It's true but there's no real value in accepting the truth, except saving two hours on Sundays. My parents every now and then chide me about going to Church and tell me I can find a wife there, and I know that's not true, but what can I tell them? The argument is literally not worth happening. Might as well lurk around a graveyard where the gangs hang out and day drink and deal drugs.And there's no women after taking the nietzsche pill, either. Sadly the only useful ideology/religion of this century has been PUA and Looksmaxxing. Knock women up, hope you find one stupid enough not to use birth control and abortion, and then be a weekend dad. It's about as good as it gets.
>>543091829>You know who he is king of?the Scythians of course, who were the original Occupiers of Israelyou may now seethe ADL kike :)
>>543091829Yes, I'm aware of this. He's not the only King to have been cast down by his own subjects.
>>543092077So the where these Scythians calling his a rabbi too?>And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to Him, “Rabbi where are You staying?”John 1:38>Peter *said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; let us make three tabernacles, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”Mark 9:5
christian nationalists will never care for their race like a pagan nationalist will. a christian nationalist will always have a small hint of empathy for the niggers and other nonWhites. if I said when White nationalists are back in charge we're going to genocide every other race (like they wanted to do to us) and they will start to piss, cry and moan how evil that is, watch it happen which is why they always promote mass remigration instead of TND and TNWD
>>543087817>>543091599>>543092007christian here,jesus was a jew.its ok to be jewish. antisemites have a big fiery lake in hell awaiting them
>j-just you wait, you'll be in BIG trouble! a-after you die...lol the feckless cope of the mentally ill
>>543092182Most prominent right wing christians like Tucker Carlson actually go so far that they say any white group identity at all is evil and wrong
>>543091795there is no place for hate in christianity, you disgusting antisemite
>>543092087Careful anon you will piss of the pol Christian’s who think Jesus was some based aryan Chad by admitting he was Jewish.
>>543092025That iron age Jewish rabbi was deemed worthy of remembrance for 2000 years. He is the most famous person in history. His following has persisted through persecutions, schisms, misconduct of clergy and dismissal by modernity. All the brutality and cold logic thrown at it has failed to destroy it.
>>543092189>antisemites have a big fiery lake in hell awaiting themscriptural passages?
>>543092025>buddhism has a hell>shintoism has a hell>jainists have a hell>hinduism has a hell>the corpus hermeticum has a hell>greeks have a hell>scandinavians have a Hel>complains exclusively about oneaccording to scientific studies, having a religion and not liking alien tribes is proof of healthy nuerofunctioning in the brain, whereis lacking religion is a sign of brain damage :).now take your meds lol
>>543092344Yet they see no problem when nonWhites do it, nor will they call it out. Tucker probably sees nigger nationalists like Malcolm X as heroes even though he was vehemently anti-White and a communist
When I look at 4chan in general and this board in particular, this is what I see.
>>543092379>scriptural passages?oh no you care about scriptual passages?but you conveniently ignore John 4:9>Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.Hell awaits you, when you blaspheme jesus and judge him for his race, you will be punished unless you repent
>>543092344>right wing christians like Tucker Carlsonnigger, he wears a kabbalah string on his wrist. he is a satanist.
>>543092432Norse beliefe has a hel literally and is likely where the word came from just like hades was barowed from the Greeks
>>543092170>So the where these Scythians calling his a rabbi too?ah I see, you are brain damaged and locked into a presentism fallacy.hebrew as a language did not exist back thenyou had greek, latin and aramaicso whatever passes for "teacher" "elder" in that period.wait did you really think your modern english translation could be used in a literal sense?lollmao even
>>543092517I love my people more than I love a jewish "god". Fuck jesus and his anti-White scum faggot self. Even if he did exist id spit in his face before I ever knelt before his jewishness
>>543092546>beliefe>barowed
>>543092526and you conveniently ignore the rest?>39 Many Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman's testimony, “He told me all that I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they asked him to stay with them, and he stayed there two days. 41 And many more believed because of his word. 42 They said to the woman, “It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this is indeed the Savior of the world.”sorry, but God doesnt care about "race".
>>543089793>Taoism>Hinduism>Buddahism>Zoroastrianism >PaganismAll
>>543089195The cognitive dissonance was between the Old and New Testaments. Christians have a term for this resolution. it is called The New Covenant. Jews changed Christianity only very recently. Sadly, Christians don’t understand their own history because ‘Sunday worship’ has become a ritual and a ticket.
>>543092526>hell! cope because you won't (and can't) do shit.
>>543086239trvkemaggedon
>>543092632He implored the Pharisees to hold themselves to higher standards and be better people. They responded by having him arrested, tortured and executed. He's a hero regardless of blood.
>>543092655>sorry, but God doesnt care about "race".exactly, so why do you? why does being jewish illicit a visceral reaction. jesus was jewish and you lose your mind over it.I also got more news for you, all of the apostles were too. paul himself is a self admitted pharisee and he wrote half the nt.
>>543092374Yeah basically people like you took the jewish stories for granted for quite a long time, it is indeed an interesting psychological phenomena worthy of studying>>543092432>not liking alien tribesThats not christianity as far as I understand though, priests tell you to treat the alien tribes like your own>whereis lacking religionI dont think I said I lack religion tho, just dont follow your jewish made one as the ultimate truth
>>543092632>Fuck jesus and his anti-White scum faggot self. Even if he did exist id spit in his face before I ever knelt before his jewishness
I say this every time a new christcuck thread comes up but christian nationalists wont dare say to their pastors or other churchgoers what they say online. 99.9% of their churches disagree with their racist antisemitic views rather they would admit to it or not. christianity and nationalism cannot coexist because christianity is a product of jewishness which is communism/globalism so go ahead christcucks keep posting deus vult to x. only online by the way>>543092764>>543092813if Jesus cared about White people he wouldnt let our people be mass raped and slaughtered. that's because Jesus is a kike and is cheering on White genocide
>>543087057liar"""talmudic judaism""" is a cope invented by christians so they can pretend like Jesus wasn't a kikethe talmud existed as an oral tradition since the time of Moses and the Paul speaking to the jews about Jannes and Jambres proves it
>>543086239It's so funny to watch kikes seethe about Christianity non-stop
>>543092796I wonder if you get so worked up about other religions (all of which mention Jesus btw)
>>543086239I think it was this post that really buckbroke religious people
>>543092869It's funny to watch christcucks act like their religion is to be taken seriously. we all know you people only post deus vult to x. you wont say that to your pastors or condemn your church when they promote multiculturalism or faggotry
Op's post buckbroke the christcucks so hard they just started admitting jewsus was a jew and there is nothing wrong with that TOP FUCKING KEKAbrahamism is a mental illness that has no place in Western civilization just like the foreign hordes squatting the west today
>>543092449No I think he is genuinely a universalist, he thinks it makes zero difference where you come from, I could be wrong ofcourse since I cant real minds but it feels like he is honest about it to me, thats almost worse to me than being anti white, similar to true believers in communism>>543092529I dont pretend to understand what that means, more jewish stuff I'm sure, kabbalah is more jewish magic, no?
>>543092782>why does being jewish illicit a visceral reaction.because modern day judaism is satanism who deny the Messiah and thus God.John says anyone who denies the Son denies the Father also and is antichrist.>I also got more news for you, all of the apostles were too. paul himself is a self admitted pharisee and he wrote half the nt.they became christians and not kabbalah practicing satanist as the jews are of today.either the jews repent and proclaim their Messiah or they stay children of the devil and are enemies of mankind.
>>543092796>more anecdotal cope lol cool story anon, why arent you pushing this on finnish media and social media?why is everything you post in english on an american message board?I think we both know why, little rabbi
>>543092967>kabbalah is more jewish magic, no?its anti biblical magic and has no part of the judaism of the time of Jesus. it developed much later out of the rejection from Jesus.
>>543092889Which other religion mentions Jesus? I'm aware of only Islam, if you mean the resurrection story being copied from other religions then sure, Moses origin story is also copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh. I get worked up about it because its a harmful subversion to my particular people, I dont really get that worked up about Islam because its mostly a dunecoon thing
>>543092939christian "nationalists" always reveal themselves. all they care about is turning the world christian. they dont care if all those christians are shitskins >>543092967>universalistso no need to worship him then. a god that needs to be worshipped by all races even shitskins is globalism and I want no part of it. survival of my race comes before what happens in the afterlife. Id go to hell for a billion millennia if it meant I could save White people from this fate.
>>543092855>if Jesus cared about White people he wouldnt let our people be mass raped and slaughtered. that's because Jesus is a kike and is cheering on White genocideHe never pledged to protect us from suffering and death in this world. That would mean we did not need to be brave. And that would mean denying us free will to be brave or cowardly, which God guarantees us. The point is that you strive to prove yourself a soul worth saving.
>>543086239I didn't become a Christian until my 20's you dumb faggot.
>>543092913>redditors won the argument Wew lad
>>543087817Nice self own. Christcicks have been doing this kind of shit for awhile though, so no surprises here.
>>543092855>if god real why bad thing happen>if daddy love me why he whip me when I misbehave??!!!Duet 28 lol
>>543086520Nah. All christfaggotry is jew worship.
>>543093169My people are white people more broadly, also its you whose god is a literal rabbi not me>>543093184Why are you so into this jewish infighting though? Whats the most convincing evidence that this iron age rabbi was god?
>>543093197Vast majority of abrahamist worshippers are brown. You'll never see a White person get worked up on such jewish brown foreign non sense which leads me to believe that a lot of these angry american flags are spics vehemently defending cuckstianity because it gives them the delusion that just because they worship some foreign dead jew on a stick they'll be considered European adjacent or even White
>>543093265>posts the Guru of Losing at Lifelol
>>543093331>My people are white people>fingolian mutt flagLMAO you will never be Celt
>>543087090Lmao chriggers don't have any high ground to accuse others of human sacrifice when you proudly admit your god only accepts payment in the form of horrific torture and executions.You creatures are fucked in the head.
shouldnt christcucks be dying in a desert for greater israel rn
>>543093197That sounds rational to me, why would god program you to think in ways that are not universal if he didn't want you to think like that anyways? We have studies that prove people have an unconcious bias for their own race, you need a lot of brainwashing to suppress that natural instinct. To me what you're saying is as logical as putting your kids interests above other peoples kids interests
>>543093223>>543093270>Jesus lets White kids be raped by the thousands by muslims (nonChristian btw) and niggers because White people just need to learn or somethingNot really a god worth following in my eyes. He lets an enemy religion win because free will or something? Which is why I said ill spit in his face the moment I see him. Jesus has equated his cowardice with godliness>>543093338nonWhites also get into christianity because its one of the easiest paths for these shitskins to get access to White women and then the church condemns White women who refuse to racemix. >We are all one in christ afteralldespite christian "nationalists" saying otherwise. they are the vast minority of their own religion. as I said, 99.9% of churches disagree with them fundamentally and would condemn their racist antics online and that's not changing anytime soon.
>>543093258I mean it was pretty common on the early 2010s internet to see Chistians who believed the earth was literally created in 7 days. If you said that now, most people would just think you have Downs Syndrome
>>543093404I wouldn't want to be one, I'm perfectly happy with who I am, I hold no inferiority complexes towards anyone. Celts are cool tho
>>543093469>Jesus lets White kids be raped by the thousands by muslims (nonChristian btw) and niggers because White people just need to learn or somethingBeing intentionally dense will not help you when you stand before Him.
>>543093106>either the jews repent and proclaim their Messiah or they stay children of the devil and are enemies of mankind.this is antisemitic.the jews are descendants of jesus, not you. You are grafted in. there is a plan for everyone and its not for you to dictate and question their covenant with God
>>543093542I will spit in his face and you know Im right. Jesus is allowing White children to be raped and slaughtered across the planet because he's a coward and a faggot and ill say all of this to his face if he existed
>>543093234>Most people eat breakfast every day>That's not true, I always skip breakfast
>>543093469>>We are all one in christ afterallExactly. It's le "we all bleed red and we're all the same" cuckold doctrine. Here is the final product of christkikery : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=devaOBl21cA
>>543093346The guru of living life in hopeless and absurd times, damn straight you weakling cunt.
>>543093608Ok and?I bet he sleeps well at night not seething in hatred for people of a different skin color
>>543093602>you know Im rightPride is the worst sin, because it facilitates all of the others.
>>543093608>>543093602these are moral arguments: cuckoldry is wrong, rape is wrong, slaughter is wrong, etcbut under atheism, there exists no foundation to make moral argumentsall the bad stuff is just "atoms going into atoms, duuude"
>>543093608>that image kek reminds me of their pope leader kissing nigger feet. christcucks can mock our religion all day long>hehe you worship tung tung shahurmeanwhile their own leaders are making out with nigger feet in front of the whole world while telling their followers this is the godly thing to do
>>543087057And the God of the old testiment is a blood thirsty maniac who demands penis blood.
>>543093734again, you see strength with a man who compensates and cares about others.and then weakness in a man who can show compassion for complete strangers.seek Jesus
>>543093265>nietzschechristianity made the world beautiful despite waiting for the coming earth.nietzsche added nothing of value to the world despite nihilism. what an absolute fraud.>>543093331>Why are you so into this jewish infighting though? know your enemy and expose evil.>Whats the most convincing evidence that this iron age rabbi was god?because his Word are true to this day. my realization that Jesus is God in the flesh is when his words addressed me personally.how can a person that lived 2000 years ago address me personally if it werent God who exists outside of time?
>>543092517Pray for everyone in this thread, and everyone not in this thread. Jesus Christ is MY LORD and KING of the earth.
this is your brain on christcuckery
>>543093734>>543093797>again, you see strength with a man who compensates and cares about what ****others think.****
>>543093719what a retarded 3rd world argument christcucks have been using for so long. White people know murder and stealing is wrong without having to be told from some kike book. just because 3rd world shitskins dont see anything wrong with murder without being told not to by christcucks doesnt mean all races are that way>>543093718What good is belief if your race and bloodline go extinct? >>543093797Holy shit you christcucks are actual faggots>you must kiss the nigger feet because its the compassionate thing to doraped beyond belief
>>543093851yes, standing with people who are victims of war is Christlike, regardless of race.
>>543093832Amen brother.
christcucks in this thread not proving pic related wrong
>>543093532Look at the absurdity of the atheist origin story. Half of it or more is completely unaccounted for and the remaining part is conjecture and pseudointellectual wankery.
>>543093734These are the same people that are raping our countries from the inside through christcuck/jewish NGOs sponsoring and aiding these foreign hordes with food, shelter, financial aids, etc... It is also very telling how they're trying to force the "cuckstianity is le foundation of Western civilization" meme when It is actually White European men who created the wonderful western civilization. Meanwhile nigeria, an 87% christcuck country, yet it is an AIDS ridden 4th world shithole. Never let them gaslight you into thinking otherwise
>>543093959unless the victims are White. Notice how christcuck empathy only ever extends to shitskin colored people
>>543093959>israel>victims of war8/10 bait made me respond
>>543093868>What good is belief if your race and bloodline go extinct?ALL races and bloodlines will one day go extinct. These bodies are mere shells for our eternal souls.
>>543087057Yeah.But /pol/ is just as bad as reddit with the groupthink. Da joos is an ace in the hole to them, and every ideology on here will use da joos to prove their point. And they don't value arriving at the truth, they just value "winning" arguments by saying more words or having the popular opinion like normies. The blind leading the blind.
>>543094038thats not true, for all people.>>543094039do you really not understand that victims of war are on both sides?plenty of Jews are against it and get drafted, plenty of jews suffered from hamas terrorist attacks.this is not to forget the damage the Palestinians suffer too
>>543093818>christianity made the world beautiful>most anti-life self hating religion ever conceived shygddt
>>543094147>warwar is two capable militaries vs each other, not missiles vs children>hamas terrorist attackspaid for by Bibi himself
Drop the hate.Seek Jesus for peace. Its not healthy /pol/. you may think you're 'right' all the time. but all you're giving yourself is fast simple incorrect answers and damning yourself for all eternity.
>>543094015Their newest thing is trying to convince people White people were no different from niggers until christianity came along. Even just a few posts up some faggot christcuck tried to use their retarded 3rd world morality argument again that's because they see all races as the same instead of distinct races with their own biology and cultures, some more animalistic and violent in nature than the other.>>543094052>Dont worry about your race going extinct goy because one day the sun will explode Once again christcucks proving they dont care about anything other than globalism under the umbrella of christianity and that nationalism cannot coexist with christianity>>543094147it is true. no church is speaking up about White genocide. but they all are funding ngos in flooding our countries with niggers
>>543086310You wouldn't know a Christian if he spat in your face
See i'm weird.I grew up christfag, remeber thinking it was insane bullshit around 8 or 9 years old. Became and atheist at 13 at 25 Became a communist and at 32 I became a national socialist.So I never really had this problem. I just could go straight to paganism.
>>543094312you wouldnt know a jew if he took 10% of your income as tithe
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>>543094283FWIW, Jews are white. But that doesn't matter to you, since you have your scapegoat>>543094261who's using the children? who's hiding within them after their attacks?
>>543087057these christkikes are such liars
>>543093547>the jews are descendants of jesus, not youmodern day jews are slavs and have nothing to do with the people Jesus preached to.>You are grafted in.after jew rejected their Messiah. modern day jews were never part of the wine christians are grafted into. they are a different tree that bears bad fruit.>there is a plan for everyone and its not for you to dictate and question their covenant with Godthe covenant with God ended when he destroyed the temple and uprooted the hebrews and dispersed them after they rejected his Son.even the talmud testifies that the miracles of the ceremonial system ended for 40 years until the destruction of the temple.the jews broke the covenant and the covenant was always conditional.Genesis 17When Abram was ninety-nine years old the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am God Almighty;[a] walk before me, and be blameless, 2 that I may make my covenant between me and you, and may multiply you greatly.”9 And God said to Abraham, “As for you, you shall keep my covenant, you and your offspring after you throughout their generations. Genesis 2215 And the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time from heaven 16 and said, “By myself I have sworn, declares the Lord, because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you, and I will surely multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and as the sand that is on the seashore. And your offspring shall possess the gate of his[d] enemies, 18 and in your offspring shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because you have obeyed my voice.” cont.
Judaism itself came from Zoroastrianism.Zoroastrianism is the first religion to invent the idea of the end times (eschaton) and the first religion to invent the duality between good and evil and thebday of judgment.
>>543092346Yeah there is, you can want to genocide people for being degen and God just gives you a cool nickname like Son of Thunder.Also I've always been racist and antisemitic (I denounce the talmud, also nigger nigger nigger, etc) but not really have hate in me. I'm just realistic about race. Hate really is kind of unnecessary and a flaw. It is also justifiable too though, definitely forgivable, like pride it is a useful tool that can serve to push our ego in a good direction. Overcoming ego entirely is ideal, but not feasible for a man. Mastery of it should be exercised to the extent that is possible, but to what extent it is not possible ought to be accepted, along with the aforementioned tools that can be used for a greater purpose ddspute their unclean nature.
>>543088064christkikes have zero capacity to be honest
>SAAR YOU MUST BE STOPPING BELIEVING THIS SAAR IT IS VERY VERY JEWISH SAAR! NOW PLEASE BE IGNORING ALL OF HISTORY SAAR!lol lmfao
>>543086239Sorry, I just asked a pastor and he said jews are the sons of satan as Jesus declared them to be. Judaism is the tradition of the elders, it is anti-Christianity. Christianity comes from God, not kikes.
>>543094386>Jews are white.Jews are white.>Jews are white.Jews are white.Endpoint of all christian "nationalism" is this. LOOK EVERYONE and admit actual White nationalists are right about christianity before it's too late
>>543093969>christcucks in this thread not proving pic related wrongThat's easy to prove wrong. Without Christianity's cultural influence, there'd have been no English Common Law (standards of justice), no abolition of slavery (healthy economy where labouring brought wealth), no education for non-aristocrats (many geniuses would not have received opportunities), the list of contributions large and small made because people were taught to emulate Christ's kindness is almost beyond count. We may not even have had the industrial revolution, and if we still had it would have been much later because there'd have been no unifying set of values encouraging people to work together. You need only take one look at Africa to see what advantages the early introduction of Christian values gave to whites.
>>543093547Deuteronomy 425 “When you father children and children's children, and have grown old in the land, and you act corruptly by making a carved image in the form of anything, and by doing what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, so as to provoke him to anger, 26 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that you will soon utterly perish from the land that you are going over the Jordan to possess. You will not live long in it, but will be utterly destroyed. 27 And the Lord will scatter you among the peoples, and you will be left few in number among the nations where the Lord will drive you. Deuteronomy 5 31 But you, stand here by me, and I will tell you the whole commandment and the statutes and the rules that you shall teach them, that they may do them in the land that I am giving them to possess.’ 32 You shall be careful therefore to do as the Lord your God has commanded you. You shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left. 33 You shall walk in all the way that the Lord your God has commanded you, that you may live, and that it may go well with you, and that you may live long in the land that you shall possess.Deuteronomy 6 17 You shall diligently keep the commandments of the Lord your God, and his testimonies and his statutes, which he has commanded you. 18 And you shall do what is right and good in the sight of the Lord, that it may go well with you, and that you may go in and take possession of the good land that the Lord swore to give to your fathers etc etcthe land was given only if the jews upheld the covenant they had between them and God and were told they would utterly perish if they break it.this is what the jews did and they reaped their punishment for it. they are cut off from the land and the covenant with God. no matter how much they kvetch about it.it was always conditional.
>>543094232>>most anti-life self hating religion ever conceived
>>543094283Yes I've noticed that as well. OP's post mindfucked them so hard they're just now admitting that they're universalist and that jews are le good and they're more than okay with it. And honestly they can't argue against it because it is the core of their abrahamist beliefs. They will always prefer a christian brown over a non christian White.picrel
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>>543094400>modern day jews are slavs and have nothing to do with the people Jesus preached to.WRONG. Arthur Koestler invented the khazar MYTH. He was a self hating Jew (he says so himself). He thought that by separating Jews from Deicide it would lessen antisemitism.(of course he was wrong).>after jew rejected their Messiah. modern day jews were never part of the wine christians are grafted into. they are a different tree that bears bad fruit.Making up stuff.>muh talmud. a small percentage of jews follow the talmud.And Abraham was jewish.>>543094586Seek help. Go to church (I can tell you don't by your poor interpretation of scripture)>>543094473>Yeah there is, you can want to genocide people for being degen and God just gives you a cool nickname like Son of Thunder.That is a sickness of the heart, you have lost your compassion for others and there is nothing 'cool; about it.>>543094519Worshiping your race is not the path to happiness.
>>543094559>There would have been no English common law, etc etc etcHow can state an opinion as if it were fact?
>>543094283>Once again christcucks proving they dont care about anything other than globalism under the umbrella of christianity and that nationalism cannot coexist with christianityOf course I care about people suffering and dying. Of course I care about great nations falling. But I'm also realistic about the fallibility of human nature and the inevitability of nothing lasting forever. And I'm not so pigheadedly proud as to think I can somehow affect the overall course of events. Do you really think that you can, just by being angry on the internet?
>>543094015> It is actually White European men who created the wonderful western civilizationCorrect. Reminds me of this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frn2_d4bS0UEthiopia was christian before Europe and yet it's a shithole; but christcuckery supposedly is what created Western civilization.
>>543094705I remember when I was 19 and found out about Nietzsche.
>>543094712Hertzl was also a self hating jew, yet he wanted a zionist state in palestine and auditioned the pope for it.>Making up stuff.just because you declare yourself a jew doesnt make you part of the covenant of God.>And Abraham was jewish.Abraham was a chaldean. it wasnt until the tribe of judah inherited their land and the other tribes were carried off that the term jew even became a thing.>Go to church (I can tell you don't by your poor interpretation of scripture)the scripture cant be broken. the covenant was conditional just as the Word states.take it up with God if you disagree.
Whether you like it or not, using Christianity at the least, is really the only way forward. Atheism has proven to be a complete and utter failure, and neo-paganism is an absolute fucking meme that's entire identity is built around hating other stuff, it has no real values. Europe and the US were at their strongest when they were Christian nations, even if you want to say "in spite of". Christianity is something that unites Europe even if it originates in sand land. Yes there is lots of (((modern))) aspects like the Vatican II, woke libshit Protestant sects, and (((Judeo-Christian))) Evangelicalism that need to be purged and we need to return to the Count Vlad Dracula/Crusades/Inquisition style of it, but it's really the only way moving forward, as fucking annoying as it may seem. Plus kikes and globohomo hates traditional Christianity so some aspect of it was doing something right.Not a Christian, but you don't have to be to see it's the only way to pull through this. You have to have gorilla-nigger tier IQ to think the West will pull through via Atheism or Neo-Pagan memeshit. Even the Nazis understood this.
>>543086239christcucks here are just bunch of retards that saw some sort of 2018 twitter, /pol/ christcuck revival that was artificially created by jews to fight growing racism and anti semetism on the right. In 2026 this jew induced revival reached it's natural end as it was just a tool used to get trump elected and start iran war.
>>543094875I was 12 and found a collection of his aphorisms in my gramps library What did you find out?
>>543094950tl;dr sheep need to be herded and that's why you should be a sheeppass.
>>543094559White people had all those things and the industrial revolution still would have happened with or without christianity. Stop applying 3rd world to the White race. christians will have you think White people were primitives before christianity came along >>543094712>Worshiping your race is not the path to happiness.Letting your race go extinct instead of being mean is not going to save you >>543094684christcucks always reveal themselves to be communists if you argue with them enough. look at the ones just in this thread theyre all arguing how White people shouldnt care about their race and just be okay with our own extinction because nothing matters except jesus. they will sacrifice their entire race and family lineage on the altar of worshipping some kike. christcucks not doing themselves favors in this thread winning over followers. they think other anons arent lurking reading all of this and realizing how cucked and gay christianity sounds.>>543094798>Of course I care about great nations falling. But I'm also realistic about the fallibility of human nature and the inevitability of nothing lasting forever.You sound like a faggot. If you dont care about anything then just kill yourself and go meet your jesus rather than tear down your race and try to convince us to be okay with our own extinction from your faggot gay ass reddit nihilism
>>543094950Atheism wins by the merit of it being the truth, religion loses by it simply being lie
>>543094715Before Christ, slavery was widespread, Gods were viewed as distant and uncaring while demanding sacrifice of living things, justice was practiced largely at the whim of the local governor/Lord/ruler, charity was virtually unheard of unless being mocked as foolish. This is all reflected in the histories and mythologies of Rome and it's contemporaries. After Christ, things began to change. That's not an opinion, it's an observable trend.
>>543086239Keep in mind the talmudic/secular jews are the real problem. If they followed the example of Abraham and the law of the Torah you wouldn't deal with half of the bullshit kikes do these days.
>>543095130atheism and abrahamism both lost the mysteries won
>>543094712At least pretend to read the rest of what I said you disingenous caricature, clearly the first part was not no serious and I clarified my stance in that I do not harbor much much hate and it is a flaw, though an insurmountable one to eradicate completely and not ne essary to do so, which is the EXACT room for hate in Christianity that there is.So are yoy saying there is zero hate within you? Unless you are divine yourself, you seem to be preaching that one who hates must also lie. To you I say that if there is no room for hate there is also no room for lying, and that would make you twice guilty. Luckily, counter to your suggestion, these things have a word the Christians call "sins", and they are actually acknoweledged as inherently and unable to be be completely overcome with the conscious mind, and they are also forgiven with geneuine repentance and faith.
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This is what ive been saying for the past year. When collapse finally comes the christcucks will be eaten alive by 3rd worlders because of their suicidal empathy. They will let their local beaner or nigger into their home around their sons or daughters when they come begging for food and water.Small pagan White enclaves will be the only Whites leftover. If you wish to survive the coming collapse find other White pagans like yourselves and learn the value of community like we used to have before christianity came along. Christianity is going to die under its own spell of promoting globalism. shitskins are only christians because it benefits them to be in some way rather thats access to their daughters or free gibs
Jesus was circumcised. Nuff said
>>543094672Where to begin, just look into any of the posts here in the thread to start. If you want a condensed Nietzsche take; you put the last thing first (god, the thing most 'ineffiable' and unknowable, first in ones priorities) and the first thing last (ones own material life, instincts, and Will; last). Can't get more anti-life than that.
>>543087057Post-2nd temple herodian family members provide the perfect snapshot of the muttification that became modern 'jews'>picrel
>>543086239>>543086310>>543086652>>543086796Every Christ-hater on this website is a Scofield Reference Bible defender. Every anti-Christian argument they are capable of producing is only made in the framework that Zionism is right and jews are the divine master race. You should hate God because the jews said God is jewish. You should hate Christ because a jewish banker bribed a con-artist to rewrite the bible turning Christ into a modern jew in 1909.The moment you reject the Scofield Reference Bible, the moment you tell these people that you don't think the jews are telling the truth about their place in history, suddenly every single one of them will take their mask off and begins screeching at you about how the jews are obviously the master race, about how God is obviously a jew and zionism is clearly right about everything. You must hate Christ, you must hate him at all costs, but you can never, ever, ever leave the zionism plantation. You may only hate the jews in the same context that the jews themselves hate God. You can only hate the jews while being spiritually jewish yourself. If you reject zionism and continue to hate the jews, every shill on this website will come for your throat, they will scream and howl and stamp their feet, and if you resist and hold your ground well enough, the thread will be deleted by jannies. The jews were not the 12 tribes of Israel. Christ himself told the Pharisees they were not blood relatives of Abraham in John 8, but are actually the Edomites and Hittites, the children of Cain. You cannot be a Christian and believe zionism, because it requires you to call Christ a liar. Every Christ-hater on this website is a zionist and Scofield Reference Bible supporter, and none of them can actually explain why. Because, of course, they are all jews. Not one of them is organic. Organic anons don't get threads deleted when they lose arguments. The Holocaust didn't happen, but it should have and it will.
>>543095104>White people had all those things and the industrial revolution still would have happened with or without christianity. Stop applying 3rd world to the White race. christians will have you think White people were primitives before christianity came alongYeah nah, discounting a huge component of our civilization out of hand because it doesn't fit your sportsball team loyalty mentality applied to everyone who shares your skin color is just moronic.
>>543086239>A notable split 2000 years agoThat's a pretty tame way to refer to the foundational moment of western civilization.Christianity is a European religion. Christ came and ENDED judaism and the 'jewish' people.The reason modern jews hate him is because he destroyed their legitimacy and invalidated their covenant with God.He gave them one lifetime to convert to Christianity, and moved God's covenant from them to Christians. He offered them salvation and they rejected it. They have been an invalid people for 2000 years. God has forgotten them.Christ did this to them. Christ is the ultimate anti-semite. He was born of jews, but he was - by definition - the first Christian.From that moment, the old testament was revised. The entire jewish religious text was transformed into a historical document... a pretext to the true word of God.There is a reason jews hate Christ.
>>543086239Nothing matters until the jews are destroyed utterly and to the last. I dont care about the Christian "problem" until the jews are destroyed. If the Christians are the reason the jews are not being destroyed, then pill the Christians on how the jews are the source of evil in the world. If everyone not-jewish every day took once small step to pilling others on the God damned jews they would be long gone within a few weeks.Destroy the jew. Stay on target.
>>543095362the point in putting God first is that God is good and takes care of you.while putting him last is self harm and detremental.putting God first is pro life because life originates from God.anti life is putting yourself above God and reaping your own destruction because one is unable to live without God.
>>543095104>look at the ones just in this threadYou don't even have to go much far, here is a chrigger here >>543094559 attributing the achievement of Western europeans to christkikery and in the same breath argues that abolishing slavery is actually a great thing which is factually incorrect. Slavery should've never been abolished, a fuck load of white people died to free slaves and what has that resulted in? What are these niggers currently doing all over the west? Niggers should've never been freed, we should've never listened to the obsequious tolerance those christcucks have preached. It will ultimately lead to our downfall because in the real world BIG fucks SMALL. Tolerance is perceived as weakness in the nigger/brownoid's mind and It is used against us. You need to slaughter your enemies not open up your borders to them and turn to the other cheek (like a good little christcuck)
>>543095020Yes, 90% of people are normgroid cattle, including whites, maybe slightly less than niggers and other browns, but they still are. Unless you can create a better alternative, that's the only thing at the moment.>>543095130Atheism won by the 2000s and it's been worse than ever. Gloat all you want about atheism "winning" (Which btw, I am one), but normgroids can't function on their own. Your options are atheist police state, Christianity, or sand-nigger Islam, unless of course, you can come up with a better alternative.
I'm just not gonna believe in palestinian fairy tales from two millennium ago, all of them perpetuated by psychopaths, neurotics, schizoids and other mentally deranged
>>543095104>You sound like a faggot. If you dont care about anything then just kill yourself and go meet your jesus rather than tear down your race and try to convince us to be okay with our own extinction from your faggot gay ass reddit nihilismThat's okay little zoomer babby. I was surging with testosterone and thought I could staunch my way through everything using macho man BS when I was your age too. Go you big red fire engine!
My favourite parts of the Bible:>Yahweh helps Samson, a Jewish man, kill thousands of Gentile men and then he makes love with Delilah, a Gentile woman>Yahweh helps Joshua, a Jewish man, lead a horde of Jewish men to massacre Gentile men, women, and children>Yahweh orders Moshe errr I mean Moses, a Jewish man, murder Gentile men, women, and children except for virgin Gentile girls which they seized and enslaved until the Gentile girls "married" their Jewish captors>Yahweh helps David, a Jewish man, kill a Gentile man in a battle between Jews and Gentiles>Yahweh repeatedly calls the Jews his chosen nation. He promises nothing for Gentiles but death and exile >there are no Gentile prophets mentioned after Abraham except for Balaam who is villainisedWhat is Christianity? Its nothing but the Judaising of Western Civilisation>Jewish monotheism replacing Gentile polytheism>Jewish God replacing Gentile Gods>Jewish heroes and prophets replace Gentile heroes and prophetsClassical Greeks are the Fathers of Western Civilisation. But do Christians want to make Athens great again? Nope. Christians yearn for "the New Jerusalem". The only thing Gentile about Christianity are the aesthetics, which are just inherited from Gentile polytheism. Christianity ruined the Roman Empire: the greatest Empire in the history of Western Civilisation and arguably the world
>>543095450Oh, and I'll add that the Roman Empire (a European empire) had domain over Judea while Christ was alive.Christ was born inside a European empire.For those who say it's a 'middle eastern religion', you're geographically correct, but missing the cultural reality of the time.
>>543095386Mega projection from insecure christcuckYou know that jesus never preeched to non-jews right, you know he called enemies of jews dogs right?
>>543095571based
>>543086796>European traditions were crushed, erased and suppressed, so we can't really reconstruct and go back to those eitherWhy are you lying? We have detailed info about European traditions in European literature. Read Homer's Iliad
>>543095541Kikes won in 1945 retard, shit did not start getting bad in 2000's, it's been shit
>>543095705Babby just discovered the Old Testament.Keep reading, you'll get to the New Testament eventually. The one the Christian religion is actually built upon.
>>543087057>Jesus practiced the religion of the Old TestamentSecond Temple Judaism
>>543095523>I love life so much the only thing I want to do in it is to be a good boy, die, and go to heavenLol, why even try talking to a retarded christcuck when this is the result. Life constitutes more than being a good boy don't you know? How can you be pro life without affirming the 'evil' qualities of life?
>>543095447White innovation happened because they were White, not because they were christian. It would have happened regardless. That's what I was trying to say to you and saying otherwise is anti-White. otherwise majority christian africa would also have created their own industrial revolution (they didnt as you know). White achievements happened because they were White with high IQs, not because they were christian. A jew god didnt come down from the heavens to tell them to screw that bolt to the piece of metal and turn the gears.>>543095535Do they all watch a video during their church sermons that teach them to be so anti-White? What the fuck are they teaching in these churches? Theyre always screaming about how godless public schools are now but look at the way they talk about the White race learned from their churches. They see White achievements as nothing more than footnotes in history only possible through the guide of christianity and not the guide of Whites being racially superior than other races and making it happen
>>543095737>You know that jesus never preeched to non-jews rightSo you're not going to try and pretend you aren't a zionist, and your argument for why zionism is correct is that the Greeks and Romans were ethnically jewish? Christ was a jew because he only preached to jews, which means the Greeks and Romans he preached to were all jewish?I'm starting to believe those posts about Israel having to outsource to jeets and jungle goblins because baby jews get traumatized from trying to post here. They really aren't sending their best. I hope you're at least getting paid something for this.
>>543095386>"I categorically reject every single aspect of judaism and everything connected to it including the torah, the talmud, the bible (old and new testament), the book of mormon, the koran, Abraham and his entire bloodline, the jew rabbi Jesus, the judaified arab Muhammad, and every single denomination of every religion that ever came from the middle eastern and north African deserts and semitic peoples">"Y-Y-YOU ARE J-JEWISH!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU READ THE WRONG VERSION OF THE RIGHT JEW BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!"I've never heard of this bible, but when I looked it up it says that it's some America-specific bullshitAre you saying that literally everyone in the world who disagrees with your particular flavour of judaism has read this obscure version of the bible written by an American that only exists in America? That's a retarded argument, and so is the person making itI don't know who the fuck Scofield isI read the Stvarnost Zagreb edition btw, make of that what you will
>>543095450>Christianity is a European religionWTF kinda spic delulu bs is this? Jesus was a judean nigger from Galilee. WTF does that have to do with Europe a continent 2000miles away? No spicaroo you are not European adjacent because you worship a dead jew on a stick. FUCK OFF
>>543086310Gnosticism was quickly banned for being anti semetic. If you're not a Gnostic you literally don't "know" shit. Most people would rather just put faith that religion is whatever they want it to be and smile and not their way along instead of actually dig into it and study it in a material way. Its a major crime to have a helenistic world view with one "monad" and many god emanations and we the human being subject to its influences and worshipers, and how the most evil people were chosen as the embodiment of the one true god that is good, because the REAL faith comes down to good vs evil. And that evil is real and powerful and worshiped by some as the true god because he has power here, and that those who seek power intrinsicly end up worshiping it and embracing its evil. Like once you understand that jews in the bible are meant to serve as the worst example of the kind of people that need saving and that the love of the true god, or his trinity form of presentation into our reality is the one that should be worshiped as an example because it is the higher power and way to the higher powers of goodness and love that people SHOULD want to embrace but are tainted by reality into not being able to embrace.And even if you understand this view, there is a ton of giberish from thousands of years ago that doesn't mean shit in a material worldview. Buncha jewish bullshit piled on top to try to make sense beyond the basic christian premise that Jesus himself would clearly have experienced, and that one is thus intended to seek to internalize and emulate.Christ is king denounce the talmud.
>>543095886Jesus rejected the edomite controlled 2nd temple and practices.He called for a return to the pre-herodian religious practices of the actual Israelites.His thesis is surprisingly consistent even if you strip out all the supernatural, at least to gpt.>picrel
>>543087057You know anyone can read the OT and it's completely apparent that it was written by resentful sniveling little Jews right? You can screech about how the Jews popped into existence after Jesus all you want, but it's just not true. It's all brownoids crying about oppression from the Torah through Revelation.
>>543095860>the New Testament eventually. The one the Christian religion is actually built uponYet the OT is what gives Christ any legitimacy
>>543086239Proverbs 22:6 = brainwash kids to make compliant adults
>>543096066He did not preach to Romans nor Greeks retard he them as conquerors because he was a little seething jew just like any other jew. I never said I am a zionist, you're just projecting faggot
>>543096194Jesus did not reject the Second Temple or its practices entirely; rather, he acted as a reformer criticizing specific abuses within the Temple courts
>>543087876Make it a monitor lizard next time.
>>543095845I can agree on this. I wasn't talking about the kikes though, the whole atheist movement was completely and utterly destroyed when it attached itself to (self-destructive) progressive movement. It did this because Atheism in and of itself lacked a structure (understandably), so it latched on to globohomo to adopt it's "religious" structure. Which is why you had Reddit Atheistfags acting exactly like Christcucks when it came to defending their ideology. Atheism as an ideology is globohomo.The unfortunate truth is, as I mentioned, normgroids need an ideology, because they are literally incapable of thinking for themselves, whether that believes in something supernatural or is secular is irrelevant. Making a new religion/ideology in incredibly difficult, co-opting one is often the better method (which kikes are incredibly skilled at) Christianity already has institutions, historical claims, and it (for better or worse) interwoven with Western history, using it is the most practical path forward, even if only from a pragmatic stand point. Unless you think you can co-opt Islam for whites or are fine living in a police state (and guess who is the police right now? Kikes).
>>543095705>violence is based and only the white man is any good at it>except for all that violence in the Old Testament, that's not based and proof that the Old Testament is jewish>no, I've never seen the jews fight or win a single physical war in all of history, I don't understand why that would be relevant hereIf the Old Testament was jewish and the Israelites were jews, they would have acquired ownership of the promised land via usury and predatory landlord contracts.You have never once seen the jews fight or win any war, ever. Their soldiers have to wear adult diapers into combat because they constantly shit and piss themselves. But you want us to believe that five hundred jews beat ten thousand non-jews in a pitched battle. The only time anything like that has ever happened is when white people fought against niggers and jeets in Africa and India. Oops, but I'm not supposed to mention that, am I?>>543095860>Babby just discovered the Old Testament.>Keep reading, you'll get to the New Testament eventually. The one the Christian religion is actually built upon.Boomers hate the Old Testament because they're all massive faggots and racemixers. Just a bunch of aging hippy niggerfuckers who seethe endlessly when the God they pretend to worship tells them that they're supposed to stone fags and adulterers. No amount of cope and jewish sorcery is going to make the best part of the bible go away.
>>543095158>Gods were viewed as distant and uncaringLets conveniently ignore Athena repeatedly speaking to and aiding Telemachus and Odysseus
>>543094519Dr William Pierce grew up christian but became antichristian later in life when he realized how antiWhite and globalist it was. As I said, so many christian churches are behind White genocide and multiculturalism, reminder the church (along with the backing of the US president) betrayed the boers in south africa in favor of niggers https://www.bitchute.com/video/XfuMfHnhHefV
>>543090161>Mutt's law
>>543092007>The only reason you don't believe in my book of jewish fairytales is because you don't already believe hard enough!>If you already believed, then you'd believe! Reee!
>>543095860Christians claim the Old Testament is God's word and the Jewish prophets and heroes are saints
>>543087537You realize that you can use the same word to refer to multiple things? Modern Rabbinical Judaism is not like the Old Testament religion even if you call both practitioners "Jews." Modern Jews themselves will admit this if they are honest.
>>543096079>I don't know who Scofield is>but I support the zionist interpretation of history completely and you're a gay coping American if you don'tlmao okay Petar.>ARE YOU REALLY SAYING EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG!?!?Yes. Nobody alive believed what you believed prior to 1909. You are wrong, and so is everyone else who thinks like you. If there's a billion of you, it changes nothing, you're just a billion retards.
>>543096029>and not the guide of Whites being racially superior than other races and making it happenbut that would contradict the universalist bs ideas that they're pushing tho. Cuckstianity is inherently anti White and pro multiculturalism. A christcuck would rather have a world full of christcucks no matter their color over a world full of non christian White people.
>>543096194>Jesus rejected the edomite controlled 2nd temple and practicesNope. He evicted the money changers from the Temple because he believed its sacred ground
>>543096309You're all fucked up and confused.Trying to have it both ways by saying 'entirely', then torturing us with your nonsensical attempt to talk out both sides of your mouth.You'd think Him saying ~'salvation now only comes through' Him would be a clear enough rejection of the temple practices and leadership that plotted to kill Him.Good day.
>>543092855>Jesus is a kike and is cheering on White genocideNo, he's dead. He can't cheer anything on...
Back in the past they weren't wise to their tricks, their games, their traps, their bait. We are wise to it. We know it is a trick. Our ancestors didn't. Devotion to Christianity and antisemitism existing together in the same mind is an impossibility. You must pick one.
>>543096503>violence is based and only the white man is any good at it>except for all that violence in the Old Testament, that's not based and proof that the Old Testament is jewishI am in favour of my nation winning and my enemies losing, schlomo
>>543086796>European traditions were crushed, erased and suppressedNo, they were inside us all along. And most of them were just co-opted and absorbed by Christianity anyhow. Easter, and the Solstice for instance.
>>543086239First of all, Judaism is not the same to Mosaism because the rabbis and pharisees added the Talmuds, the Zohar, Kabbalah and other books of mysticism in parallel with Christianity.There is also a historical difference between the Hebrews and the Jews of today as there are Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews. There are also the Khazars (a different race) which were somehow integrated in the Ashkenazi. Hebrews kept up well with other nations regarding the development of their civilization in the first millenium before Christ. At least when they did not try to imitate and add the degenerate rituals of the surrounding populations to their tradition
>>543096265>He did not preach to Romans nor Greeks retard he them as conquerors because he was a little seething jew just like any other jew. I never said I am a zionist, you're just projecting faggotSo you're just lying. You're living in a make-believe world with no connection to reality at all. The bible is completely real, except for the parts that contradict your unhinged schizophrenia and zionist ultranationalism.If you're not a zionist, stop believing in zionist revisionist history and lashing out at everyone who doesn't. You won't.
>>543096495twitter christcuckery attached itself to donald trump, how well is that going?
>>543096816They really want you to believe shitskins are just as equally smart and normal as White people so they have to use lies and deceit to prove it. Meanwhile they can just go to the hood to prove that wrong. The hood is the way it is because of niggers. The nice parts of society are because of White people (they would have you convinced its christianity that keeps society clean and nice though) but there are thousands of churches in the hood but theyre still the hood
>>543097070>you're lyingWhy don't you look into this yourself then come back lol
>>543096555Majority of catholic orgs here in France are shitskin central. It is swarmed with shitskins that get free clothes, free food, free assistance. These are literal hotspots for our very invasion. It is pretty disgusting.Also funny enough you'll never exclusively find ethnic French people there getting things for themselves, Its always the opposite Its them donating these things and doing this benevolent work. It is a mindvirus and I witnessed it first hand.t. ex church-goer and ex benevolent in "Secours Catholique" (a charity org that helps the precarious)
>>543096786>>but I support the zionist interpretation of history completely and you're a gay coping American if you don'tI don't care about how this or that jew interprets a jewish mythology/history book no more than I care how two different Americans interpret the American civil war differentlyIf your only reference points in history are the interpretations of ancient jewish history by jews and non-jews which don't denounce judaism through heavy mental gymnastics, then you're a lost causeIt's that simpleI denounce all forms of judaism, including communism and capitalism which I forgot to list in my previous post, and every other form which exists in general
>>543086239>people have trouble accepting new paradigmsNo shit, room temp.
>>543097029>I am in favour of my nation winning and my enemies losing, schlomoYeah, which is why the Old Testament is based. It's a bunch of stories of ancient Aryans grinding niggers and ancient jews into the dirt because God told them to. You're the one insisting that the greatest soldiers and conquerers in the ancient world were racial jews for some reason you can't justify or defend at all. You're the one shilling for jewish supremacy and then running away and crying when anyone calls you on it. Can you give even one objective reason for why anyone should believe the Israelites were ethnically modern jews?
>>543096908What you've said made absolutely zero sense. And in your next reply, you'll double down on more nonsense
>>543086652>>543086796Christianity is nonsense. Christians necessarily believe that a middle easterner from 2000 years ago will reappear one day and bring billions of the dead back to life. There might be problems with other religions, but they don't believe anything as retarded as that.You're much better off worshipping Columbina. Buy a plushie in Akihabara and offer her a loaf of bread.
>>543091758tf dis nigga tryin to say?
>>543086239This is dumb. I have a scumbag manager at work who used to be a Mormon. He will say some shit like, the church he was brought up in was hypocritical and didn't feel right so he left. But what does he do? No, he doesn't study, find answers. He doesn't become Orthodox. He hears that Catholicism was actually the first Protestantism and decides that living like a fool with women and drink is the answer. His whole life he has been a philanderer and a liar afflicted with typical vices. When he gets candid he admits that he thinks he's going to hell, as if that's some revelation. It isn't. All judaizers are. But does he make an effort? Nope.
>>543096147I agree gnosticism appears to be the most based and wise of all Christianity. Ironically I refer to myself as agnostic, as I keep an open mind and do not commit any feeling of certainty to any possibility (though I do have a hierarchy of percieved liklihoods) but if I were to proclaim which prepacked set of beliefs I feel most certain are accurate, it would be Gnosticism. Can't help it, just seems correct.
>>543090751>Christ is King>>543087145>Christ is KingKing of the JewsINRI
>>543095104I'm pretty sure mortality actually correlates positively with population growth rate, so long as it's not incredibly extreme (past normal African levels).https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/child-mortality-vs-population-growth
>>543097170>I denounce all forms of judaism, including communism and capitalism which I forgot to list in my previous post, and every other form which exists in generalExcept for the jewish interpretation of history, which you believe with such religious fervor that you mock and attack anyone who does not. For someone who "doesn't care," you seem to become deeply offended whenever anyone says "I don't think the jews are telling the truth about who they are.">>543097160>Why don't you look into this yourself then come back lolLook into what? Why you're such a seething little moslem jewboy from the hairy asscrack of the Russia?
>>543097126I am pro White people. PERIODThe people that have built the greatest civilization to ever exist. Men (like picrel) and specifically Western European that have built and selflessly contributed to advancement of humanity without expectation of divine reward. Don't give a fuck about foreign desert fairytales
>>543094386Jew's arent white lmfao.
>>543097165almost all of us ex-christians grew up christian and realized later in life its a tool used by jews to kill off White peoples racial pride and to accept multiculturalism as something to be proud of. and yep aid only extends to nigger shitskins. a starving White family or child? christian aid groups couldnt give less of a fuck.
>>543089982>It is easily the most anti Jewish of all religionsIt is not possible to say this and believe it and reconcile with what your Bible actually says. Any honest observer will note the massive discrepancies between your words and the words in the Bible.
>>543097496Look into jesus not preaching to gentiles retard. What else do I need hold your hand for?
>>543097496>"I don't think the jews are telling the truth about who they are."I'm not so Stockholm syndromed by a jewish rabbi from 2000 years ago that my entire worldview hinges on whether this or that subgroup of a tribe of inbred swindlers are lying as usual or telling the truth for onceIt really is that simple
>>543086239kek @ all the christards ITT trying to stick that square peg up their round mental ass holes
>>543095960you expose evil for what it is.if you think God isnt intense and just sit there like an oblivious vegetable that is always happy then I have bad news for you.walking with God is one of the hardest but also most rewarding experiences that life could ever offer.you on the other hand just do dumb shit on your own only to perish, a truly wasted existence.
