The easiest way to kill communist ideals which are fake and gay but some people pretend they are not, is this:Ask this guy, why doesn't he split his money evenly with his mods?Why aren't his mods owning the means or production?WE DEMAND THAT HASAN SHARES-HIS-PROFITS-EQUALLY PIKER SHARES HIS PROFITS EQUALLY WITH ALL HIS MODSYou don't need the government to live communism and socialism. In a free market capitalism that respects people's individualities, you are free to set up your socialist enterprise and share profits equally with your employees at any time. Just do it.LETS FUCKING GOOOOO!!! Link him this thread
>>543102836He's a Saracen tho, not a commie
>>543102836He is a paid CCP shill. Literally got paid to dress up like mao zedong.
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>>543102941>>543102973yes but why isn't he sharing his profits equally with his team tho???? He is a socialist
>>543102941You would know
>>543102836> The easiest way to kill communist ideals Is to kill communistsAny other suggestion is faggotry
>>543102836>You don't need the government to live communism and socialismYeah you do. That's the whole point of it. You've read fuck all about Communism and it shows.
>>543103027>He is a socialistHe's not , he is using Marxism crap as a Trojan horse takya to fool the kuffars white cucks
>>543103060>You would knowNice try Yankee
>>543102836>doesn't own the platform>doesn't own the internet >he is the commodity Communism isn't charity. It's a generalized mode of production. I don't know what arrangement he has with his people but these sincerity shit tests on individuals don't mean much when discussing global economic systems.
>>543103165we are listening to your explanation ;)oh wait you don't have one nor arguments to support why you need government for communism and socialism. Again, people pretending that socialism/communism can actually exist lol
>>543102836commies are no better than pagan idol worshippershttps://www.bitchute.com/video/lF6wUVX25fxF
His roundabout answer is that he needs the money to promote communism
>>543103505And why can't he do this mode of production with his salary sharing it equally with his mods so they all make the same?Why is no socialist streamer doing that to live this mode of production that is so amazing and great??
>>543102836>communist ideals which are fake and gayProtip: If you want to find people who are wrong about everything they think they know, look under a bridge or in a crackhouse. (and that would certainly be a subset of communists, lol)HOWEVER: Any movement that gains traction will only do so because it is right about SOMETHING.The stupid part of communism is all the autistic childishness about central planning and consolidated control.They ARE CORRECT about abuses in capitalist systems, however, which can become a runaway thing, and presently are.If you don't want communists, fucking regulate some shit rather than letting it run away like jewish christmas.
>>543102836>Ask this guy, why doesn't he split his money evenly with his mods?how do you know he doesn't? why don't you ask him in chat? it would make a great "gotcha" clip. he runs his other business ventures (merch store, podcast) as co-ops, meaning he splits the profits evenly as you described. so i'm sure you'd get your answer if you just asked him. also, he allows anyone to use his content to make fan channels, and lets them keep all the revenue (he never copy strikes anyone). that's why there are literally hundreds of fan channels on youtube, making a bunch of money. what's stopping you from making one? infinite money glitch.
>>543102836I thought the easiest way to kill communist ideals was to just fucking kill communists.
>>543104723Yea you're probably stupid enough to think killing is easy
>>543103999It's a political and economic project. It's not an alternative lifestyle. What you're describing is a co-op that is operating within the capitalist mode of production. He may or may not be running his operation in that manner. I have no idea.
>Ask this guy, why doesn't he split his money evenly with his mods?>Why aren't his mods owning the means or production?Uhm he actually does do this. His production company is run as a cooperative. This is actually known to anyone but you. Out of anything you could have picked to shit on this retard you choose the one thing you are wrong about?
>>543102836All ideals are fake and gay, therefore any ideal that questions another is fated to be right about some things>>543104109Some industries benefit from central control, some do not.Agriculture, for example, is dysfunctional when capitalism is applied to it in any amount. Right now we're paying communist agriculture taxes and still letting landowners have control so we don't benefit, because the economics already failed completely but people are afraid of "not being consistent with our ideals n sheeit".
>>543102836> Why isn't the controlled opposition practicing what he preaches?We may never solve this one bubba.Ask yourself this. Why is everyone from a certain Cuba trip in legal jeopardy , except one, right now?Odd amirite?
Oh my god, how many times are these CIA/Mossad bots/glowies going to spam these "durrr, these blue-haired commies are destroying muh-libtard establishment" posts?The Western world doesn't have any real communists in mainstream politics; they aren't allowed, just like fascists or National Socialists. These Hasan-type "commies" you're referring to are just a bunch of social democratic mason libtards and left-leaning intersectionalists who favor a mixed economy and are funded by Soros and Brussels. http://youtu.be/Ccy-IlnQu1chttp://youtu.be/yEF0nbpk8H8?t=1086
>>543105014>company is run as a cooperativeHe doesn't even claim copy rights on clip channels as long as they aren't a bot farm. Plus socialist based programs doesn't mean nobody wealthy. Free health care doesn't impact a hedge fund guy making his 400k bonus. Affordable housing doesn't change a lawyer making $$$$+ an hour..
>>543102941stfu kike
>>543104889Does not compute.Why do you need everyone to turn communist for it to work? Why can't it function as it should in single units? Why can't a business just go socialist and share profits equally?Explain to usI am very curious to see how someone may try to crawl out of this hole
>>543105014>Uhm he actually does do this.show us the source where he is splitting his salary evenly then, and show me his mod who is a rich as him then
>>543105248;)great post my fellow friend, ;), really coolyou really showed us that the meanie hasan piker is not legit ;)however, ;), it does not still solve the real question we are asking here ;), which is more general ;), like, ;), why does NO communist owns a business and shares his profits equally with all his employes ;)how come? ;)none in the entire world ;)
>>543105601I think his merch is a coop. His show money is his money.Communisim never changes. Everyone is equal. Some are just more equal than others.
>impotent migger screeching thread #2345678765432
>>543105719I don't care what system we use to rule our country: I only care about my people. As long as it meets their needs, I don't give a shit what you call it. It's all made-up human concepts anyway. Don't fall for the whole name-calling trap like these intersectionalist, hedonist degenerates.And yeah, fuck Hasan. He'll never be a real communist.
>>543102836being from the third world and yet being pro capitalism and pro billionaires has to be in the top 5 of the dumbest things a human can believe inyou will forever be brownand will NEVER be a billionaireyou are defending a group of people who do not even see you as human
>>543102836I think some chud should just shoot him when he shows his face in public.They shot Charlie Kirk and celebrated his death. Time to return the favour.
>>543102836>Why aren't his mods owning the means or production?that's not democratic socialism you fucking retard. there are still aspects of capitalism that are allowed to exist where therein. we are not stupid to the point to think that a country is able to remain operational off communistic ideology alone, but still you retards pretend, or actually don't know the difference between communism, socialism, and democratic socialism.you will work, you will pay taxes, you will cry about taxes and completely miss the point of the founding fathers argument against taxes like the sub 80 IQ cattle you are.
>>543105026>Agriculture, for example, is dysfunctional when capitalism is applied to it in any amount.The opposite is true, you idiotic commie predditor.Collectivized agriculture is the most reliable way to produce mass famines, going back to Plymouth Colony and Jamestown.More socialism:>The Great Leap Forward (Second Five Year Plan) of the People's Republic of China (PRC) was an economic and social campaign led by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) from 1958 to 1962. CCP Chairman Mao Zedong launched the campaign to reconstruct the country from an agrarian economy into a communist society through the formation of people's communes.>Millions of people died in China during the Great Leap, with estimates ranging from 15 to 55 million, making the Great Chinese Famine the largest famine in human history.Less socialism:>The Communist Party authorities carried out the market reforms in two stages. The first stage, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, involved the de-collectivization of agriculture, the opening up of the country to foreign investment, and permission for entrepreneurs to start businesses. However, a large percentage of industries remained state-owned. The second stage of reform, in the late 1980s and 1990s, involved the privatization and contracting out of much state-owned industry. The 1985 lifting of price controls[7] was a major reform, and protectionist policies and regulations soon followed, although state monopolies in sectors such as banking and petroleum remained. In 2001, China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO). The private sector grew remarkably, accounting for as much as 70 percent of China's gross domestic product by 2005.[8] From 1978 until 2013, unprecedented growth occurred, with the economy increasing by 9.5% a year.
>>543105026>In December 1978, eighteen of the local farmers, led by Yen Jingchang,[5] met in the largest house in the village. They agreed to break the law at the time by signing a secret agreement to divide the land, a local People's Commune, into family plots. Each plot was to be worked by an individual family who would turn over some of what they grew to the government and the collective whilst at the same time agreeing that they could keep the surplus for themselves. The villagers also agreed that should one of them be caught and sentenced to death that the other villagers would raise their children until they were eighteen years old.[5][6] At the time, the villagers were worried that another famine might strike the village after a particularly bad harvest and more people might die of hunger.[6]>After this secret capitalist reform, Xiaogang village produced a harvest that was larger than the previous five years combined.[5] Per capita income in the village increase from 22 yuan to 400 yuan with grain output increasing to 90,000 kg in 1979.[6] This attracted significant attention from surrounding villages and before long the government in Beijing had found out. The villagers were fortunate in that at the time China had just changed leadership after Mao Zedong had died. The new leadership under Deng Xiaoping was looking for ways to reform China's economy and the discovery of Xiaogang's innovation was held up as a model to other villages across the country. This led to the abandonment of collectivised farming across China and a large increase in agricultural production. The secret signing of the contract in Xiaogang is widely regarded as the beginning of the period of rapid economic growth and industrialisation that mainland China has experienced in the thirty years since.
>>543105026>After Mao’s death, members of the communist elite were able to go abroad. They discovered that China, with what they believed was the world’s best economic system, was by world standards desperately poor. A vice-premier visiting England found that the oppressed working classes of the capitalist world were strikingly better off than Chinese peasants, workers, even officials; a London trash collector had six times his salary.>The first recorded incidence of private farming in post-Mao China occurred in Pengxi county of Sichuan province, in a village called “Nine Dragon Hill.” This village was one of the poorest in Qunli Commune, widely known in the region as a “village of beggars.” One evening in September 1976, Deng Tianyuan, the Party secretary of the commune, summoned a small group of cadres to discuss the problem of agricultural production. After a long and heated debate, they agreed to try private farming as a solution to the managerial and incentive problems that had dogged collective farming. Aware of the political risk, they decided to allocate only marginal land to households in two production teams, while keeping collective farming intact elsewhere. That year, the output of the marginal but privately cultivated land was three times higher than that of the collectively cultivated fertile land. The next year, more land was privatized in more production teams. By 1978, before the Third Plenum was held in Beijing, private farming was practiced across the whole commune, but was kept secret from the local authorities. In 1979, at a meeting organized by the county government to discuss improvements in agriculture, Deng Tienyuan disclosed the secret of Nine Dragon Hill’s success and won the endorsement of the county Party secretary.
>>543102836But he’s not a communist and has never claimed to be. Is this the power of macaco intellectuals?
>>543103214Am Yisrael Chazirim. I support ending all aid to Pissrael and putting that money towards an Iranian nuclear program.
>>543106073the most capitalist countries and most pro billionaire countries are the least third world countriesAlso, we believe in free trade, individuality, anyone is free to make their own enterprises and trade freely. Some people will be more successful than others because of that. We don't care if we are seen as humans or not, we want free trade.
>>543105504>Why can't a business just go socialist and share profits equally?Co-ops already exist. That isn't socialism/communism, though. They are horizontally structured capitalist entities operating within capitalism. A single economic entity can't be communist within capitalism as it would still need to operate under the logic of capital to continue operation as that is the dominant mode of production.
>>543106173>I will insult people but not explain things, because I actually can'tok brudaquality postcool stuff haha
>>543106823you mean.. it would operate under free trade?Socialism for some reason cannot exist if people are free to trade any way they want? Explain that in more detail to usWhy people being free to trade any way they want COMPLETELY SHATTER socialism?It's like... if frodo and sam share a pumpkin for an apple, in the farms they grew themselves, COMMUNIST MORDOR is not able to function. Why?
>>543106861did i hurt your feelings or what are you complaining about? i literally told you that democratic socialism allows for capitalism to still exist. naturally, i thought you would be able to bridge the gap, or do the research on your own, that democratic socialists care more about supporting people rather than supporting your wallet.you're not one of those people making less than $50k a year mistakenly believing you're amongst the rank of billionaires, are you? icu
>>543107049nah im not following the bread crumbs and researching on my own, because there is nothing thereIf there was an argument to be made you would have made it
>>543102836SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOTHasan is based and mogs your entire blood line
>>543107049>i literally told you that democratic socialism allows for capitalism to still exist.Okay, but then why the fuck call it socialism? That's such a fucking mistake...Why name it after a failed system that killed more people than the fucking nazis?That'd be like if somebody came out and said, "Here we are, the Nazis 2: This time no rough stuff"
>>543107149it's been made, i told you that you mistakenly believe that capitalism will not exist under democratic soclialism, and because of that you believe hasan piker should donate all of his money to his mods, is that correct so far or are your beliefs different?
>>543107263why isn't hasan sharing his money equally with his mods?Without resorting to buzzwords, just explain to me the logic of his thoughts. Does Hasan piker believe in free trade, or does he believe people must be forced to pay (through taxes) a value to other people they do not want to freely pay?
>>543106971Free trade has never and will never exist. It's a fantasy. What I mean is that it would still need to do things like produce for profit. You can't tell the bank that holds your loan that you aren't able to pay because you are operating a communist business. And then there's the problems that arise from political and economic interference when expanding this out to something larger than a single business.
>>543107243the same reason billionaires are allowed to larp as populists.>>543107535being pro free trade and wanting to provide social welfare to people that is funded through taxes are not mutually exclusive opinions. we, I at least, exist within the U.S. under a very similar system already: we have social security, access to affordable healthcare, and a nutritional assistance program. these are all funded through taxes, the same taxes the founding fathers argued fought to have a say in, and naturally americans unanimously VOTED TO HELP EACH OTHER YOU HEARTLESS FUCKING SPINLESS FUCK.i'm allowed to insult you because i'm sure someone hasn't in a while, it will take a while for the significance to reach you.fuck billionaires and fuck your retarded all-or-nothing arguments.
>>543102836You don't understand the difference between personal property and private property do you? I know that's a whole bunch of words starting with p, but that doesn't mean they are all the same words. You see, it's not just the first letter of a word that determines what it represents, but the rest of the letters to. Please use this information productively going forward.
>>543108009>americans unanimously VOTED TO HELP EACH OTHER YOU HEARTLESS FUCKING SPINLESS FUCK.When?
>>543108252some time around the 1930s.
Communists don't want to distribute wealth. They want to use poor people to kill other poor people so wealthy people can justify turning the guns on other wealthy people they don't like.
>>543108295So never.
>>543102836>The easiest way to kill communist ideals
>>543108361an anon who doesn't have an understanding of american history attempting to chime in. do you care to explain the history of our current social assistance programs and how they came to be?i'll just laugh at you when you prove you have no clue what you're talking about, take a swing.
>>543108009>the same reason billionaires are allowed to larp as populists.What the fuck does that even mean?So you're "pro-mislabeling"???Protip: If you defend yourself only in terms of being "only as bad or slightly better than your enemy", then you're just like the previous generation of slimy communists...
>>543102836Socialists NEVER want to redistribute their OWN wealth, they always want to steal someone elses. Lying fake devil parasites
>>543108478You said Americans unanimously voted to help people.Now cite when and where that happened, this is your second attempt.
>>543102836This guy was always a low IQ brown psychopath riding "communism" or "socialism" for personal gain, Many such cases. He's actually just a mudshit and turkshit nationalist and capitalist.It's also similar to the original bolshevik jews in Russia who backed Lenin and Trotsky. (Many communists came from wealth and were supported by jewish bankers). Communism was simply a means for jews to gain control, communism-capitalism dichotomies are just illusions and the means to generate conflict the jews then exploit, the goal being toppling the Czar and handing the state over to the Jews thus giving them the vehicle for global dominance they desire.
>>543108550i meant it metaphorically. do you care to explain why we have our current social assistance programs if the sentiment swayed in the opposite direction? does it upset you that you're wrong and there's nothing you can do about it?
>>543108644>It metaphorically Lol, you lost loony troonThe ever growing welfare system has only passed by slimmest and questionable margins.
>>543108644>and there's nothing you can do about it?Even the way you speak is tyrannical, everyone sees you and we will defy you. Destroy tyranny.
>>543108779awee but it still passed because greedy fucking bankers were gambling with everyones money and selling off useless bonds to line up their pockets. greed is nothing new. it's just hilarious when you know you're at best a middle class individual arguing against your fellow americans well being. maybe if you keep defending billionaires, no millionaires, maybe you'll become one some day.fat chance.>>543108865how are taxes tyranny you retard?
>>543108009you are retardedA welfare system can exist under any form of government, free trade capitalism, communism, feudalismWhy are you saying that it can only exist under your flavor of the month political idea?And why have you not answered my question yet? Why isn't hasan piker sharing his salary equally amongst his employees?
>>543108939Lol, you lost loony troon.Seethe moar.
>>543104807Easier than you’d think when you have the guns and they have the dildos
>>543108983lost what? you still haven't answered that durrr.taxes and social welfare programs exist, you can't change that reality no matter what you do. you consider that socialism and if it makes you squirm, good. i already told you the founding fathers fought for their right to vote for fair taxes, and the americans voted to help each other out, which you agreed happened.you sure do let trannys run through your mind all the time though, don't you? do you imagine hasans big fat girthhy cock sliding down your throat? no? yes?>>543108950>A welfare system can exist under any form of government, free trade capitalism, communism, feudalismok yes i never said anything to the contrary.>Why are you saying that it can only exist under your flavor of the month political idea?above.>And why have you not answered my question yet? Why isn't hasan piker sharing his salary equally amongst his employees?because we don't live under communist rule in america, it's that simple. if you look at how moderate leftists structure their arguments, all they ask you to do is pay your fair share of taxes.why? because it's the only thing that's fair in america. then you have the retards who base their opinions off the boston tea party incident and mistakenly believe that america was born against taxation as a whole, that's just not true.so in conclusion: america since it's inception fought to enact fair taxes, through out history americans voted to help out one another due to greedy billionaires and bankers hoarding money and misusing everyones funds, and modern conservatives believe that taxes in any form is bad due to not studying american history correctly.i'm right, the logic holds, democrats will win the midterms, democratic socialism will have it's time in america. people will be happy.if you want to screech over something good, be my guest.
>>543109592my schizo detector was already off the charts but after this I quitBeen /pol/ long enough to know when to not reply to monologue schizos, I have not been properly reading your replies and will skip 100% now
>>543109695because you can't refute logic that holds, simple as.
>>543102836Assmangold is a better communist. He lives in squalor.He eats basic.He doesn't travel.He doesn't torture his dog. This guy is a grifter. And a faggot.
>>543109592>Make bullshit statement >Get called out >Make bullshit citation >Get called out >It was metaphorically >Get laughed at>Whataboutism>Get laughed at>How did I loose?Lol, you lost loony troonfalsus in uno, falsus in omnib
>>543109797have you seen the meme of the guy chanting "you lost tranny" in a straight jacket? classic. 5 years straight of repeating the same thing to yourself, i'm sure you never get tired of it.
>>543109886Lol, you lost loony troonSeethe moar
>>543102836Buddy it’s been twenty years, leftists are inherently disingenuous and do not care, nothing they say is true and they have no shame throwing it in your face. You can’t “gotcha” these people because there’s no logic being used.
>>543110022No, but you can throw their own word back at them and they react like the possessed getting sprayed with holy water. Like here>>543108009>americans unanimously VOTED>>543108252>>543108295>>543108361>>543108478>>543108550>>543108644That is entertaining at least.
>>543110270funny how one descriptive word works to dismantle an argument. it's so disingenuous and very indicative that don't want to discuss the actual subject matter. cowardice i believe is what it's called.>why don't you bankrupt yourself because it's what i want you to do?nah. trump already acknowledged hasans work in getting people to vote democratic socialist. i'm sure the destiny dick riders are inflamed over this.
>>543107855Free trade happens every day and will always exist. Socialism is a fantasy.
charlie kirk actually asked him that and it pissed hasan off so much he spend years wanting to kill him lol his answer was something about how it wouldnt matter because he's not big enough and wouldnt make a difference and that communism can only be effective for the big stuff, you can find the clip easily
>>543111552It's the ultimate question: If communism is so good, why don't you get together with your communist buddies and start a communist bakery together, sharing profits equally?Nobody does it. Nobody will ever do it. Because nobody believes in paying others for work they did not do, especially communists. Communists suffer from over-entitlement, they will NEVER share their wealth and they absolutely require others to share it with them
>>543108450>LONG LIVE THE AMERICAN OCCUPATION DIE COMMIE BANZAI!>GOD BLESSES THOSE WHO BLESS ISRAEL DIE COMMIE BANZAI>>543111915>It's the ultimate question: If communism is so good, why don't you [completely nonsensical strawman something something sharing a toothbrush]if communism is so terrible, why spend trillions to oppose it? Why murder millions to contain it? Surely it will simply collapse on its own. That always happens, right?
>>543110864Lol, you lost loony troonSeethe moar
>>543112186who is spending millions to prevent you from opening your communist bakery right now again?We live in a free market btw, nobody can actually stop you
>>543112186>>543114329OHHHHHHHHHHH I JUST HAD THE MOST EPIC IDEAYOU CAN DO YOUR COMMUNIST BAKERY IN SECRET, AFTER MANY YEARS YOU GO "AHA GOTCHA. YOU GUYS WANTED TO SPEND TRILLIONS TO PREVENT IT, BUT I MADE ONE IN SECRET AND KEPT IT RUNNING FOR 3 YEARS. ALL MY EMPLOYEES RECEIVED THE SAME SALARY AS ME. AHA GOTCHA"this is it guyscommunism wonit rly works this anon proved it with his communist bakery, that very cleverly hid itself to prevent "the forces" from shutting it down
